gearwhine
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ok, I've got a roll cage to build before this, but i'd like to know what I'm doing prior to the cage to try and incorporate mounts into the cage and stuff like that.
I've got some idea, and need some help to see if they'll work
basically what I'm looking for.....
- 3 OR 4 link front suspension USING a track bar
- Link mounts tucked up above frame rails
those are pretty much my only basic needs.
Now, with the way I was looking into mounting my lower arms was from the center like of the jeep, in front of the crossmember, NOT on them, i take the crossmember off too often.
Problem is there...I run into mounting problem if they are too be tucked up above the frame rail in the center....they would be mounted off the transsmision....and we don't want none of that.
Now, my plan is to run them right off the inside of the frame rail with a bolt through the rail. The problem I run into there is the links will not be able to points to near stock location...frame rail is in the way. So my thought was to converge them right to the center of the front axle next to the pumpkin. I checked it out and it will clear the driveshaft underneath it.
The problem here is....it gets into triagulation territory, cuasing it to fight a track bar. What is the typical angle you need for a triagulated link system to work?
With what I'm thinking, I will have 32"-34" lower link. converging 15" to the center. little draw up of the angle....ok that pics not working for some reason, but the traingle it makes creates a 63* angle between the link and the axle. So with two links, the angle from link to link will be 180-126 = (((54*))).
Now with that, I need to know if that's too much of an angle to ALSO have a track bar. Will they fight each other too much, or will it be good.
BTW, I want the track bar to stay away from bump steer as I drive this almost everywhere. And I am using all RE joints, and Heims, so there will be pretty much no give at all.
Here is a pic of the driver side lower link placement.
now there is more. The upper links. They will be coming straight almsot perpendicular to the axle....no problems cutting through the floor, so i'm not worried about squat stuff at all right now. What I'm asking now is...with the lower links pointed to the middle of the axle, there is not much keeping that axle from shimmying around that middle point....I was wondering if you think one upper(doesn't matter what side yet) will be enough to hold the axle in place. I would think it would be....but then thinking...if I smash the tire opposite the side the upper is on, that's a lot of tension being put on one arm...
I have no problem going to 2 uppers, just wondering what your thought on that would be.
This is a long post, but I've been looking at how I can mount these things, and this is one of my thoughts so far. let me know what you think, and thanks for reading. _nicko_
I've got some idea, and need some help to see if they'll work
basically what I'm looking for.....
- 3 OR 4 link front suspension USING a track bar
- Link mounts tucked up above frame rails
those are pretty much my only basic needs.
Now, with the way I was looking into mounting my lower arms was from the center like of the jeep, in front of the crossmember, NOT on them, i take the crossmember off too often.
Problem is there...I run into mounting problem if they are too be tucked up above the frame rail in the center....they would be mounted off the transsmision....and we don't want none of that.
Now, my plan is to run them right off the inside of the frame rail with a bolt through the rail. The problem I run into there is the links will not be able to points to near stock location...frame rail is in the way. So my thought was to converge them right to the center of the front axle next to the pumpkin. I checked it out and it will clear the driveshaft underneath it.
The problem here is....it gets into triagulation territory, cuasing it to fight a track bar. What is the typical angle you need for a triagulated link system to work?
With what I'm thinking, I will have 32"-34" lower link. converging 15" to the center. little draw up of the angle....ok that pics not working for some reason, but the traingle it makes creates a 63* angle between the link and the axle. So with two links, the angle from link to link will be 180-126 = (((54*))).
Now with that, I need to know if that's too much of an angle to ALSO have a track bar. Will they fight each other too much, or will it be good.
BTW, I want the track bar to stay away from bump steer as I drive this almost everywhere. And I am using all RE joints, and Heims, so there will be pretty much no give at all.
Here is a pic of the driver side lower link placement.
now there is more. The upper links. They will be coming straight almsot perpendicular to the axle....no problems cutting through the floor, so i'm not worried about squat stuff at all right now. What I'm asking now is...with the lower links pointed to the middle of the axle, there is not much keeping that axle from shimmying around that middle point....I was wondering if you think one upper(doesn't matter what side yet) will be enough to hold the axle in place. I would think it would be....but then thinking...if I smash the tire opposite the side the upper is on, that's a lot of tension being put on one arm...
I have no problem going to 2 uppers, just wondering what your thought on that would be.
This is a long post, but I've been looking at how I can mount these things, and this is one of my thoughts so far. let me know what you think, and thanks for reading. _nicko_