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Old June 14th, 2017, 10:25
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98 First time build

Not sure where to post this. Looked around the site, this looked most appropriate. Correct me if I'm wrong. thanks.

Hey all.
Im new to wrenching and jeeping. I got the jeep bug last fall. I now have a stock 98 and a lifted 2001 xj.

the 2001 is beat all to hell with a blown head gasket. my parts jeep.

the 98 has a rebuilt from salvage title but runs well.

My plan is to build the 98 up into a fun toy.

I already own a few new parts.
Zone - 3 inch lift with full leaf pack and shocks.
JK - adjustable track bar.

the 01 came with steel wheels and 32 inch tires. K&N cold air intake. Rusty's off road sliders and skid plates.

Ill post some pictures of what Im about to talk about.

the 98 hit a deer I was told. the driver side frame rail seems to flex in and out ever so slightly when you turn steering wheel left and right.

My buddy says the "frame rail" is not actually flexing but everything else is worn out and moving around. (to me it look like the rail, though im sure whole front end is worn)
Along with this the spot welds that held the sheet metal together in the engine compartment (specifically the seam that runs front to back over frame rail under air filter box) are all popped.

this causes the sheet metal that air filter box bolts into to move around.

I just need help/encouragement/a direction. I have 2 jeeps and the wife is not happy.

Im feeling stalled out.

what should I do first?

install some frame stiffeners, then the 3 inch lift, cut out wheel wells so 32 tires fit.

any and all advice appreciated.

I dont know much. Just been watching bleepin jeep on youtube.

I need to weld the sheet metal in engine compartment back together?

thanks.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 11:10
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Re: 98 First time build

Is there a way to load pictures from my iPhone?
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Old June 14th, 2017, 11:27
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Re: 98 First time build

I think you're on the right track. With the stiffeners. I had that exact problem and made a steering box brace that tied into both frame rails that helped a ton as well.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 12:11
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Re: 98 First time build

Which one is structurally more sound and has less rust?
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Old June 14th, 2017, 12:23
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Re: 98 First time build

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Is there a way to load pictures from my iPhone?
You can do it directly from your phone if you use the Tapatalk app. Otherwise, you'll have to store the photos online, in Photobucket for example, and then link to them.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 13:59
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Re: 98 First time build

Welcome! Having more than one jeep is not a bad thing, but the wifes tend to think so....They just don't understand. I would start with getting frame stiffners burned in. It can be a PITA but definitely worth it. Do that before your lift because you'll have to strip a bunch of stuff off and it will be less work to do it once. Post some pics of the area you are talking about and it will help in getting you some more advice. You can also see if any peps in the CO chapter are close and willing to drop by and give you some advice.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 14:01
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Re: 98 First time build

Im acquiring Tapatalk now.

Even though the 98 has a "rebuilt from salvage" title. I believe the body to be in better shape. The exterior panels and doors are all intact and in good shape.
the 2001 has been hacked up around the wheel wells. Not a nice "tuck and fold" job like I plan to do but an honest "hack" jagged cut out around wheels.

the 2001 has doors that droop, and a rusty top. the under carriage upon brief inspection appears to be in rust free and nice shape. however this may be deceptive because it has been sprayed with some sort of liner. everything leaks. rear main seal. transfer case, steering box, all the joints.

the only sign of rust on the 98 was on some after market nerf bars I removed. all the doors open and close flawlessly. there is something funky going on with driver door but it opens and closes smoothly. Only leaks are steering box maybe a little, and or radiator hose.



both jeeps have the chrysler 8.25 rear end.

both jeeps have worn out components in the front.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 14:04
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Posting in the Colorado chapter....good idea. thanks.

ill get some pictures once tap talk rolls in. Im high in the mountains with limited internet speeds so...it could take a min. in process now though.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 14:04
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ill hit up colorado chapter this evening
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Old June 14th, 2017, 14:59
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Old June 14th, 2017, 15:01
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The nut showing in picture is above the coil seat on driver side and also the closest air box retention point to cab. The frame rail runs top to bottom of picture. Top towards nose clip.


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Old June 14th, 2017, 15:02
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The shadow area that runs bottom left up towards top right of picture is also loose.

Should I weld all this?


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Old June 14th, 2017, 16:25
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98 First time build

I'm looking at Iron Rock Off road frame stiffeners.

Need some advice.

Front and center enough?

I don't plan on getting too extreme these are mostly to help out potential issues


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Old June 14th, 2017, 18:32
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Re: 98 First time build

Doesnt look too bad, should be able to spot weld it back. As for stiffners, they are all about the same. I have IRO but not installed. Front is the and center should be more than enough.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 19:17
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Re: 98 First time build

any advice on beefing up the steering? 3 inch lift going to 4 or 4.5 at some point down the road.
im going to search steering now on this site.
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