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Old July 7th, 2006, 14:38
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Custom Battery Cables.

hey, i just got some MIL-SPEC BATTERY TERMINALS from kilby today and i am going to get some custom cables for them. I was wondering, what gauge cables should i use and is there anything i should do or look for before i start this process? i know there has been many people out there who didnt want to spend 90 dollars for jeepers creepers heavy duty cables or just wanted to make them themselves, so help me out.
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Old July 7th, 2006, 14:50
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Re: Custom Battery Cables.

Just go to your local welding supplt shop and buy welding cables...
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Old July 7th, 2006, 14:55
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Re: Custom Battery Cables.

The jeepercreepers are 2ga welding cable... That should be good, and 4 ga for the alternator...
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Old July 7th, 2006, 18:26
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Re: Custom Battery Cables.

PM 5-90, or I think there's a link in his sig...
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Old August 11th, 2006, 01:11
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Sounds good. Does anybody else have any suggestions before I get them on Saturday?
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Old August 11th, 2006, 01:42
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Re: Custom Battery Cables.

X2, Get some #2 welding cable from welding supply store. Strip enough off for it to fit into a lug. Next take a #2 lug and clamp it in a vise. Heat it up with a torch and melt some solder until its about 3/4ths full. Next push the cable into the lug and let it cool.

Leather gloves come in handy for this job! To make it extra nice get some big shrink tube and shrink it on when the wire and the lug meet. Overlap it on the lug and use it as an insulator over the exposed part of the lug. Have fun making them and spend the extra $$$ on some good beer!
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Old August 11th, 2006, 13:11
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PM 5-90, or I think there's a link in his sig...
Yep - and here I are, just to provide the link...

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Old August 11th, 2006, 13:32
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Re: Custom Battery Cables.

I recently upgraded my power cables and did a write-up:

http://www.angelfire.com/my/fan/Power_Cables.html
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Old August 11th, 2006, 13:57
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Re: Custom Battery Cables.

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Yep - and here I are, just to provide the link...

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I run 5-90 cables...

I doubt you can make them on your own, with as high a quality, for less than what it will cost to just buy from him.

Don't waste your time, just PM the guy. Highest quality, great price, fast service.

HTH
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Old August 11th, 2006, 14:04
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I run 5-90 cables...

I doubt you can make them on your own, with as high a quality, for less than what it will cost to just buy from him.

Don't waste your time, just PM the guy. Highest quality, great price, fast service.

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Thank you! I try not to toot my own horn here... Perhaps I should put a testimonials page up, once I get the Tech Section sorta done (read: compleat to information on hand...)

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Old August 11th, 2006, 14:58
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I doubt you can make them on your own, with as high a quality, for less than what it will cost to just buy from him.
You've got to be kidding. Go buy welding cable and four copper ends you solder on. Then buy some shrink wrap and put over the ends. I moved my battery to the back and did mine this way in about ten minutes. I used 3/0 that was given to me by the local welding supply, four ends from napa ($5.50), some cheap shrink wrap, and solder I had laying around. The total was under $10. How much cheaper and higher quality can you get??? I'm not trying to put down 5-90 or anything...I just don't agree with your post.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 15:05
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You've got to be kidding. Go buy welding cable and four copper ends you solder on. Then buy some shrink wrap and put over the ends. I moved my battery to the back and did mine this way in about ten minutes. I used 3/0 that was given to me by the local welding supply, four ends from napa ($5.50), some cheap shrink wrap, and solder I had laying around. The total was under $10. How much cheaper and higher quality can you get??? I'm not trying to put down 5-90 or anything...I just don't agree with your post.
There's the key - you got the cable for free. I've had a hard time keeping up with the price of copper lately - damn inflation in petrochemistry is hitting everything...

Also, 3/0 is massive overkill for our applications - not that there's anything wrong with that (you got it for free, didn't you?) but I selected I AWG simply because it was an excellent compromise between current-carrying capacity and shipping weight (I'm not overly concerned with weight as installed, but I'd like to make sure I can get it there reasonably...)

It took some SERIOUS digging to find a supplier that would be able to keep me in stock consistently, for a low enough price (I pay three times as much for cable locally...) to pass along to everyone else.

And, nothing against Jeepers & Creepers (since I see them mentioned here fairly often as well...) but I've done something that it seems most others have not - devised a "kit solution" that allows for alternator upgrades while maintaining fuse protection like that offered in the OEM circuit. And, I'll do custom cabling (just tell me how long, what colour, 1AWG or 4AWG, and what rings you need on the ends...) which is something else I don't see very often. AND, my kits will offer to replace ALL the mains - including the ground strap from the firewall to the engine block (since I just hate that damn thing...) with good cable.

If you want to do it on your own, go ahead - I won't try to stop you. However, I've been playing with this stuff for a while even before I decided to start selling it (due to prompting here, actually,) and I like to think you can't find a better cable anywhere. It's not the materials I use, it's the attention to detail and desire for longevity that drive me. I'm honestly hoping that cables you get from me will last longer than the rig you're putting them into...

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Old August 11th, 2006, 15:08
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You've got to be kidding. Go buy welding cable and four copper ends you solder on. Then buy some shrink wrap and put over the ends. I moved my battery to the back and did mine this way in about ten minutes. I used 3/0 that was given to me by the local welding supply, four ends from napa ($5.50), some cheap shrink wrap, and solder I had laying around. The total was under $10. How much cheaper and higher quality can you get??? I'm not trying to put down 5-90 or anything...I just don't agree with your post.
X2 I'm into mine for about $4 bucks. Not to put down anyones work, 5-90 builds some nice sh%t. I didn't bother with the solder, just cut them to length and swedged them on in my vice. Finished them off with a little tape and she's good.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 15:13
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You've got to be kidding. Go buy welding cable and four copper ends you solder on. Then buy some shrink wrap and put over the ends. I moved my battery to the back and did mine this way in about ten minutes. I used 3/0 that was given to me by the local welding supply, four ends from napa ($5.50), some cheap shrink wrap, and solder I had laying around. The total was under $10. How much cheaper and higher quality can you get??? I'm not trying to put down 5-90 or anything...I just don't agree with your post.
X2, If you are confident you can do this, save some $$$ and get the experience and have some fun. Nothing like getting the experience of learning how to do things yourself. If you are in the Castro Valley area sometime and got the materails get some beer and stop by. I'll help you get it done if you need a little help.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 15:16
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Re: Custom Battery Cables.

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There's the key - you got the cable for free. I've had a hard time keeping up with the price of copper lately - damn inflation in petrochemistry is hitting everything...

Also, 3/0 is massive overkill for our applications - not that there's anything wrong with that (you got it for free, didn't you?) but I selected I AWG simply because it was an excellent compromise between current-carrying capacity and shipping weight (I'm not overly concerned with weight as installed, but I'd like to make sure I can get it there reasonably...)

It took some SERIOUS digging to find a supplier that would be able to keep me in stock consistently, for a low enough price (I pay three times as much for cable locally...) to pass along to everyone else.

And, nothing against Jeepers & Creepers (since I see them mentioned here fairly often as well...) but I've done something that it seems most others have not - devised a "kit solution" that allows for alternator upgrades while maintaining fuse protection like that offered in the OEM circuit. And, I'll do custom cabling (just tell me how long, what colour, 1AWG or 4AWG, and what rings you need on the ends...) which is something else I don't see very often. AND, my kits will offer to replace ALL the mains - including the ground strap from the firewall to the engine block (since I just hate that damn thing...) with good cable.

If you want to do it on your own, go ahead - I won't try to stop you. However, I've been playing with this stuff for a while even before I decided to start selling it (due to prompting here, actually,) and I like to think you can't find a better cable anywhere. It's not the materials I use, it's the attention to detail and desire for longevity that drive me. I'm honestly hoping that cables you get from me will last longer than the rig you're putting them into...

5-90
I checked out your cables and I do like them...you do some nice work. Yes, 3/0 is major overkill for most people, but I run a Delphi 2150cca battery system out of a semi (friend works for mack so I scored it free too) and since it was free I wanted to be on the safe side anyway. The other reason I went with a larger cable, since I was spanning a long distance, I didn't want any voltage drop to occur over the length of the cables...not that that much would occur anyway.
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