Ok. please explain to me why JCR came to this forum to get suggestions, and I've given some suggestions based on my lengthy experience with their bumpers, and basically get ignored and written off as an extreme case. JCR hasn't improved strength in a decade, and yet the big debate is on little holes for lights. Why not try and improve offroad strength instead of just looks? At least engage in a discussion about ways to improve the strength?
Do you have any suggestions? Yes we have improved the strength. Around 4 years ago when we came up with a way to tie the lower quarter panel armor into our rear bumpers, which makes this whole system rock solid. This is what we suggest to our customers when purchasing our Tire Carrier bumpers.
We also improved the nutstrip that goes into the frame, using larger 1/2" hardware, which increases strength for the lower tie in brackets.
You have to understand our majority customer. They don't want to, nor have the resources to cut and weld to increase the strength of the factory rear uniframe. So making something that requires fab to install is a huge no-no and will have customers just going to the next guy that has a 100% bolt on system.
All this thread is convincing me to do, is not recommend JCR to anybody anymore, because you're not there for the individual anymore, just the bulk consumers. Seems to me, all that JCR cares about is the bulk consumer nowadays, not the individual. Gone from individual consideration, to just another bulk producer for profit.
Jcr has grown from 3 guys in a garage to 14 employees in a 20,000sqft facility. I now have to deal with setting up my employees with good competitive pay, Health Insurance, 401k's, vacation time, workman's comp and so on. Basically all the things that each and everyone one of you would like from your employer. The way of doing business now is nothing like it was when you purchased a bumper from us. The process is 100% different.
To say we went from individual consideration to a profit hungry bulk producer is a far stretch. If we only cared about money, why would we take the time to update a product line that a.) Sold well b.) already was designed and in production? We care about our reputation, we offer every customer all the support they desire. The only thing we don't offer is our product customized to each and every persons request.
If any of you ever took the time to find us at an event and talk to us in person, you would quickly find out how passionate we are about our product, brand and customers.
~Brian
event, I'll be sure to say hello. I'm sure they're planning that trip right now. 
