Rant

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

Currently both my jeeps are at my parents place in gresham, I live in Portland for right now.

my parents have a manufactured home in a park, with a carport.
I currently have the jeeps in the carport, the parts jeep is hard to see since my running jeep is in front of it, well the "Manager" for this park has repeatedly Sent warnings by mail, Left nasty Voicemails, and Herrassed me and my parents in person to get BOTH jeeps out of the driveway or they will be TOWED.

I have looked at the rental contract for the property, and it states "No working on a vehicle" well, im not.. one is not running, and the other is registered and insured in this state. is that legal? or am i right for telling her to take a hike? Things at this rate are about to get alot more ugly, because its come time to wash the "Mud" off the rig:greensmok She dont pay the water bill so its my right to do that in my driveway aswell.

needless to say, my parents are planning to move. but im not about to backdown untill then.

/rant:anon:

[ECKSJAY]

Currently both my jeeps are at my parents place

Get your own place? :dunno:

[AIbandit]

See if theres somthing in there about management deeming vehicles as "Unsightly" that might get ya

[WaXJ_Skier]

Get your own place? :dunno:

I'm guessing he has an apartment in Portland so no room for extra rigs. I could understand keeping the rig at the parents place if they have the room and don't mind. Of course moving out of the city would make it less expensive to get a place with a garage and larger driveway. You can catch a train from Gresham to Portland pretty easy, My grandma used to do it all the time.

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

I live in Portland with limited parking, only enough space for my DD.

The parts jeep is on its way out. just gotta sort a few things out and haul it off to the crusher.

I have read the 3 page rental agreement, and the ONLY rule on there is "No working on vehicles in driveways"

so i am trying to figure out where it is legal for this lady to tell me to get it off the property when its a Registered street legal vehicle.

[WaXJ_Skier]

I live in Portland with limited parking, only enough space for my DD.

The parts jeep is on its way out. just gotta sort a few things out and haul it off to the crusher.

I have read the 3 page rental agreement, and the ONLY rule on there is "No working on vehicles in driveways"

so i am trying to figure out where it is legal for this lady to tell me to get it off the property when its a Registered street legal vehicle.

the answer is no, the problem is going to be stopping her. She could have them both towed when you are not looking. The only real way to stop her is to call the cops if she tries to get them towed or file a civil suit after she tows them

[ECKSJAY]

See if theres somthing in there about management deeming vehicles as "Unsightly" that might get ya

There's that, too. Long story short is that living in a 'park' with any sort of agreement will usually equal doing what they say. Homeowners' associations, 'communities', and the like will yield some asshat telling you what to do. Unsightly or expired licenses will typically get you flak.

[WaXJ_Skier]

HOA's should be considered a threat to national security

[ECKSJAY]

HOA's should be considered a threat to national security

Yes.

[WaXJ_Skier]

Yes.

If you ask me they are like foriegn governments operating within our country unnoticed.

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

HOA's should be considered a threat to national security
:roflmao:

[ECKSJAY]

If you ask me they are like foriegn governments operating within our country unnoticed.

Just part of a massive movement to slowly change our country. You see more and more of it daily. Little things planted here and there to gradually change what's acceptable. Think about how things were 50 years ago and tell me otherwise. ;)

[WaXJ_Skier]

Just part of a massive movement to slowly change our country. You see more and more of it daily. Little things planted here and there to gradually change what's acceptable. Think about how things were 50 years ago and tell me otherwise. ;)

whats to tell, the evidence is there.

[AIbandit]

I found this picture of my HOA president online... strange


http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/Waffen-SS.jpg

[dariley83]

can't really fight it. If the cops show up with a "parts car" sitting in the drive its gonna look like you are working on it there. Best to do is either rent a storage place or find somewhere else to keep it. Dealt with this at my last apartment

[Bronzewyrm]

well heres some food for thaught.
tow companys are lyable for any dammage done to any car towed. (even if its a parts truck) if u put them int a position where there would be no way to tow them without dammage to the jeep. no tow company in the world will touch it.

CAUGH CAUGH "jackstands are cheap" caugh

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

well heres some food for thaught.
tow companys are lyable for any dammage done to any car towed. (even if its a parts truck) if u put them int a position where there would be no way to tow them without dammage to the jeep. no tow company in the world will touch it.

CAUGH CAUGH "jackstands are cheap" caugh
its already on jackstands:pirate1:

and i'll still argue, I'm not workin on it:lecture:

:rolleyes:

[WaXJ_Skier]

Another thing to consider, based on Wa tennant law ( I would thinks its similar most places) is that the Landlord cannot remove your property from the premises, even if you have not paid rent. They have to win an eviction hearing in court and can only have your items removed when the sheriff shows up to evict you (your parents). Again I don't know what the law is reguarding this in Oregon is but if it's anything like WA having your jeeps towed is illegal.

[sams88]

Bottom line though is that any way this falls out, it's going to cost money, and that boils down to either you or your parents. If it goes to court, then you have the legal fees as in lawyers. And the lawyers cost more than the vehicles you are talking about. Your parent's deciding to move is likely the wisest course of action. Many things in this life suck, or aren't fair, etc., however life in and of itself is not fair. Even if you own your own place anymore, that is not a guarantee that you can do what you want with it. More and more of the new construction now is being centered around owners groups, etc., whatever you wish to call them, that dictate many rules, ie, no immobile vehicles parked on the street or in driveways... if you have a vehicle you are working on you have to have it in an enclosed garage. They even get into the types of trees and shrubbery you have and the placement of it.

So while you can fight it, the end likelihood is that you will lose, and in the process it will cost you money that could be well spent on other things, ie a new place, a storage garage to work on your vehicles, etc.

[BoringDave]

well heres some food for thaught.
tow companys are lyable for any dammage done to any car towed. (even if its a parts truck) if u put them int a position where there would be no way to tow them without dammage to the jeep. no tow company in the world will touch it.

CAUGH CAUGH "jackstands are cheap" caugh

I use to build tow trucks. They have no problem moving a truck on jack stands. The only difference is the bill at the end.

Dave

[fubar XJ]

I use to build tow trucks. They have no problem moving a truck on jack stands. The only difference is the bill at the end.

Dave

True, they could just crane it or forklift it onto a flatbed. It would seem like the process should require some sort of official written warning with a time stipulation attached, i.e. registered or certified letter stating that you have 90 days to remove said vehicle, etc. If she continues to badger and threaten, tell her to follow proper procedure and submit an official violation letter. That will buy you time to take care of moving it if nothing else. I'd also work on that very problem ASAP. Get out there and take what you need off the parts Jeep and get it towed to the JY. It'll cost you for the tow (unless you have a buddy with a trailer w/ a winch) but at least the problem is no longer there. If she bitches about you being out there pulling parts off of it, tell her it's part of the process of getting it out of there and give her a time limit, i.e. "I've got a little work to do to get it ready to tow. I'll have it out of here in a week." sort of thing. Make sure you can stick to whatever time table you give her.

Good luck.

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

whoa this went crazy. This isnt really any thing to do with the parts jeep. Thats not the problem as it is being hauled off.

The problem is, my drivable, street legal and registered vehicle, is the vehicle under attack with threats of a tow. That does not sit well with me. i am tempted to chain it to the house (lol)

[fubar XJ]

Oh, the one that drives? Just start it up, drive it away, and park it at a buddy's house.


That's pretty farking simple. I thought there was a legitimate problem here.

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

Oh, the one that drives? Just start it up, drive it away, and park it at a buddy's house.


That's pretty farking simple. I thought there was a legitimate problem here.
its parked where it belongs. Unless she can legally give me a reason to move it else where, It's staying.. My parents both agree. Im just trying to justify why she feels she has the power to tell me or my parents to move a car that is legal to be anywhere on the road in this country?:thumbdn:

[2xtreme]

I have been involved with numerouse HOA's in the past. Both of my homes are under HOA "protection".

It's pretty simple.
1. If you don't like them then DONT by a house in one, VERY simple!
2. If you do have a house in one, then simply follow the rules!
3. HOA's are there to protect the value of all of the homes in a neighborhood, and they CAN be excellent at protecting your home values.

As far as this specific situation, I don't think we have enough or the right information. Usually, there are complaints to warrant the discussion to start with and I would guess that your "Jeeps" are probably not the most appealing thing to look at. I would also guess that they are not the only problem (are there now multiple cars on the street due to the Jeeps being in the driveway?).

a few thoughts (with no experience):
1. A vehicle on jackstands by definition is being worked on, this is usually grounds for towing in ANY appartment, condo, HOA, or other similar living conditions.
2. If the vehicles are "unsightly" there is likely other "rules" that would affect them.
3. Usually, when there are warnings it is because neighbors have complained. Don't be the A$$ and just clean up your mess so that others don't have to look at it.
4. Look into the laws for landloards to "tow" a vehicle, they are different in every situation (who owns the property, if it is on the street or on the property, what the contract says, etc, etc, etc) but at least this way you know what your rights are.

Michael

[AIbandit]

I would also guess that they are not the only problem (are there now multiple cars on the street due to the Jeeps being in the driveway?).

a few thoughts (with no experience):
1. A vehicle on jackstands by definition is being worked on, this is usually grounds for towing in ANY appartment, condo, HOA, or other similar living conditions.
2. If the vehicles are "unsightly" there is likely other "rules" that would affect them.
3. Usually, when there are warnings it is because neighbors have complained. Don't be the A$$ and just clean up your mess so that others don't have to look at it.
4. Look into the laws for landloards to "tow" a vehicle, they are different in every situation (who owns the property, if it is on the street or on the property, what the contract says, etc, etc, etc) but at least this way you know what your rights are.

Michael

You dont necessarily have to be an a$$ for them to warn you. my Diesel truck made my board meetings review. "A loud noise comes from a red trucks engine at aproximately 0630 every morning. If this continues a warning letter will be sent." I just keep to my self my rig has never been at my house. I don't Rev or anything when I start my truck in the morning to go to work. HOA's are just people that want to have power over others.

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

hauled parts rig off this morning

other jeep will be parked in my new garage tonight..

the garage is attached to the new house.. screw HOA's and Lot managers..
7 bedrooms and 3/4 of an acre here i come..

[AIbandit]

Grats on the new place! 7 bedrooms? holy crap =]

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

Grats on the new place! 7 bedrooms? holy crap =]
i have 5 kids:gag:

[NWPhotog]

The Manager was wrong to give you grief about the registered Jeep. The parts Jeep however was breaking the Park's rules. Often causing a problem opens you up to grief beyond the original problem. Glad you got it cleared up!

[NWPhotog]

i have 5 kids:gag:

Sveb bedrooms in the greater PDX area?! Glad I don't have your Mortgage! Mine is big enough! :sunshine:

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

Sveb bedrooms in the greater PDX area?! Glad I don't have your Mortgage! Mine is big enough! :sunshine:
rental place... not to bad $1400/mo

[NWPhotog]

rental place... not to bad $1400/mo

Nice.