Beam Gussetting

[Baja_XJ]

I finally got my hands on a 2wd beam for the front of my XJ. What are the weakpoints that need guessets?

[whooprunner]

I finally got my hands on a 2wd beam for the front of my XJ. What are the weakpoints that need guessets?

Gusset the same stuff as the Dana 30. You can sleave a chromo tube through the center and/or truss the bottom.

http://www.tandjperformance.com/products/barnet/products/gussetkitinstalled.gif
http://www.temper-mentalracing.com/TMR/Parts_and_Services_files/P9170311.jpg

[tcm glx]

Gusset the same stuff as the Dana 30. You can sleave a chromo tube through the center and/or truss the bottom.

http://www.tandjperformance.com/products/barnet/products/gussetkitinstalled.gif
http://www.temper-mentalracing.com/TMR/Parts_and_Services_files/P9170311.jpg

CHromo tube through the center is important... then you need to gusset the ears for the knuckles... when we ran our jeepspeed, after about one season, the front tires had camber and looked like this /------\ :shocked:

[woody]

CHromo tube through the center is important... then you need to gusset the ears for the knuckles... when we ran our jeepspeed, after about one season, the front tires had camber and looked like this /------\ :shocked:

That's what I was thinking... inner tube + braced knuckles & beefed control arm/TB mounts.

Do you drill a few holes along the length and shoot in some plug welds? Or just a bead at each knuckle?

[bluejeepkid]

definitly add a few plug welds

[dakineJ]

You can sleave a chromo tube through the center

What's involved w/this?,do you need to remove the inner C?

[woody]

No, the inner Cs are open just like on a 4x4 axle (they are likely the same knuckles) so a tube of apprx 1.5" OD can slip inside.

[dakineJ]

No, the inner Cs are open just like on a 4x4 axle (they are likely the same knuckles) so a tube of apprx 1.5" OD can slip inside.
Thanks.I'd like to get some Reid D44 conversion knuckles to add strength as well.

[XJEEPER]

Sleeving examples, D44 kits work for D30's too...fwiw.

http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=582669

http://www.burnsvilleoffroad.com/Articles/RockproofJKAxleUpgradeKit.aspx

[aparke4]

man that sleeve idea is sweet - i assume if for a 4x4 axle if you run aftermarket axle seals they might not fit

[NRT_Chris]

This is the beam on the 1719

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n98/NRT_Chris/NRTFrontHousing3.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n98/NRT_Chris/NRTFrontHousing4.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n98/NRT_Chris/NRTFrontHousing2.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n98/NRT_Chris/NRTFrontHousing1.jpg

[aparke4]

wow that is serious

[Tom_T&Js_Offroad]

its serious fun....

[whooprunner]

Chris,

Looking at your front beam is just plain discouraging LOL. Makes me wish there was still a sportsman class =)

[XJEEPER]

man that sleeve idea is sweet - i assume if for a 4x4 axle if you run aftermarket axle seals they might not fit

Nope, they won't fit.......if you run the sleeve tube all the way out to the knuckle. If outer tube seals are that big of a deal for you, you could make the sleeve tube shorter to allow you to still run the tube seals.....but it seem to me that this would create a weak point right at the knuckle/tube area. I'd bag the outer seals if you were going to sleeve the tubes.

[Darky]

Nope, they won't fit.......if you run the sleeve tube all the way out to the knuckle. If outer tube seals are that big of a deal for you, you could make the sleeve tube shorter to allow you to still run the tube seals.....but it seem to me that this would create a weak point right at the knuckle/tube area. I'd bag the outer seals if you were going to sleeve the tubes.
Pardon the ignorance, but are you saying it's possible to sleeve a 4x4 axle the same way as the 4x2? IE DOM tube inside of tube? The axle shafts will fit inside the DOM, then? That could be a very cool idea to strengthen my front axle.
TIA

[squirrel80]

Pardon the ignorance, but are you saying it's possible to sleeve a 4x4 axle the same way as the 4x2? IE DOM tube inside of tube? The axle shafts will fit inside the DOM, then? That could be a very cool idea to strengthen my front axle.
TIA

This is a kit I plan on putting on my JK axles that does exactly what you are describing.
http://www.burnsvilleoffroad.com/Articles/RockproofJKAxleUpgradeKit.aspx

[CommandoXJ96]

This is a kit I plan on putting on my JK axles that does exactly what you are describing.
http://www.burnsvilleoffroad.com/Articles/RockproofJKAxleUpgradeKit.aspx

damn... this is actually a pretty good idea. i'm sure its been done quiet a bit before... but i wouldn't be surprised to see a dana 30 version of this start to be marketed for XJs/TJs.

[Larrythedog]

Here's some pictures of the beam i'm building. Its not done yet still a work in progress. Working on the spring purches now.
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww229/larrythedog2/2WDBeamEnd6.jpg
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww229/larrythedog2/2WDBeamEnd5.jpg
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww229/larrythedog2/2WDBeamBot3.jpg
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww229/larrythedog2/2WDBeamBot4.jpg
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww229/larrythedog2/2WDBeamDrive2.jpghttp://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww229/larrythedog2/2WDBeamtop1.jpg

[avnsteve]

please pardon MY ignorance, but, why all that work for 2WD?

[dgrigorenko]

please pardon MY ignorance, but, why all that work for 2WD?


to maintain some sort of semblance of a straigt axle when going really fast and hitting jumps and stuff in the desert... if they were to bend those all the steering geometry would go straight out the window, and handling would be terrible.

[GrimmJeeper]

please pardon MY ignorance, but, why all that work for 2WD?

a good majority of desert racing rigs, jeepspeeds included, are 2wd.

[Darky]

Because a 2wd beam will bend just like a 4wd axle. Neither is desirable to have bent...

[avnsteve]

gotcha, thanks!