SOMEONE Jump on these!!! Deaver springs [Archive] - NAXJA Forums -::- North American XJ Association

leftlanetruckin

April 18th, 2009, 14:06

hmmmm, would they be a noticeable upgrade to the 6.5" rusty's coils i currently run i wonder???
i do love the alcan leafs, so maybe these and a spacer to level her out????

martin

alek21

April 18th, 2009, 15:46

http://www.race-dezert.com/cgi-bin/trader/atl.cgi?ct=7&md=second&id=5677

Pretty good price.

i called the guy a few days ago and he seems pretty cool.. only thing that detoured me from buying them was that they are pretty stiff and i would prolly lose a lot of flex on the trail..

leftlanetruckin

April 18th, 2009, 17:11

that answers my question then, spring rate....
oh well.

martin

crazyjim

April 18th, 2009, 18:13

i called the guy a few days ago and he seems pretty cool.. only thing that detoured me from buying them was that they are pretty stiff and i would prolly lose a lot of flex on the trail..
You wouldn't lose ANY flex on the trail... wtf who told you that? Your jeep is going to flex how it's going to flex. It'll actually give you better control on the trail.

xjjeeper19

April 18th, 2009, 19:15

And the spring rate is progressive....

tone

April 18th, 2009, 23:00

That is a pretty good deal for those springs! I got mine from Eric over at fatcity for like $70 shipped back in the day. Best coils Ive ever had and the ride is nice too!

alek21

April 19th, 2009, 13:36

You wouldn't lose ANY flex on the trail... wtf who told you that? Your jeep is going to flex how it's going to flex. It'll actually give you better control on the trail.

well when i called him i told him that i am building it to be half go fast and half rock crawling and he said oh then these are probably too stiff for the trail and you will lose flex.. so i didnt buy em...

what do you guys mean when you say progressive? ive heard quite a few people saying it lately and dont know what it means?

tone

April 19th, 2009, 13:58

Progressive means its wound tighter towards one side of the coil like these...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c211/tone420/pro.jpg

agent98

April 19th, 2009, 14:32

All coil springs are progressive. Think about it.

dakineJ

April 19th, 2009, 18:05

what do you guys mean when you say progressive? ive heard quite a few people saying it lately and dont know what it means?

essentially,one end of the spring has a lower spring rate for little bumps and the other a higher rate for the big hits.

alek21

April 19th, 2009, 18:13

essentially,one end of the spring has a lower spring rate for little bumps and the other a higher rate for the big hits.

thanks man thats what i was lookin for!

alek21

April 19th, 2009, 20:14

just bought em :D got the guy down to 75 bucks... hope ill be happy with em, i think i will... as soon as they get here a pair of RE 5.5 coils will be up for sale :D

BajaCurt

April 19th, 2009, 22:09

just bought em :D got the guy down to 75 bucks... hope ill be happy with em, i think i will... as soon as they get here a pair of RE 5.5 coils will be up for sale :D

Wow great deal at $75
I should have you negotiate my next purchase man!!!

alek21

April 19th, 2009, 22:40

Wow great deal at $75
I should have you negotiate my next purchase man!!!

lol nah i was kidding haha... that was pretty funny tho

alek21

April 19th, 2009, 22:40

but i am pretty good at wheelin and dealin :D

crazyjim

April 19th, 2009, 22:48

So did you buy them or not?

alek21

April 19th, 2009, 22:54

yup

crazyjim

April 19th, 2009, 22:54

Good boy. Now buy my shocks.

dakineJ

April 20th, 2009, 01:01

when do ya get'm?

Darky

April 20th, 2009, 10:34

yup
Depending on timing/money, I may be interested in your RE 5.5s. I'm running 4.5s with a 1.5" spacer and no isolator, so the 5.5's ought to have me at the same height if I put an isolator back in, then I won't need my spacers.

Jim, are you talking about the Fox shocks you put up for sale a while ago? I remember seeing them and wishing I had money. Then when I had money I didn't think they were still up for sale, now I have no money again...:(

crazyjim

April 20th, 2009, 12:22

Depending on timing/money, I may be interested in your RE 5.5s. I'm running 4.5s with a 1.5" spacer and no isolator, so the 5.5's ought to have me at the same height if I put an isolator back in, then I won't need my spacers.

Jim, are you talking about the Fox shocks you put up for sale a while ago? I remember seeing them and wishing I had money. Then when I had money I didn't think they were still up for sale, now I have no money again...:(
Yea... They're still for sale but not at the same time haha. It'd be sweet to have a buyer lined up as soon as I take them off, but I can't take them off until I get my jeep taken apart ready for the new ones.

tone

April 20th, 2009, 22:01

Congrats on the purchace thats the best spring you can get for $75 welcome to the club :)

NRT_Chris

April 21st, 2009, 17:23

All coil springs are progressive. Think about it.
wrong

Swamprat

April 22nd, 2009, 11:24

what do you want for your 5.5 coils? i need to get more lift on my XJ

61scout80

April 26th, 2009, 17:57

i would love to hear more opinions on the deaver coils. i think my rusty's 6.5's are going to be too big for my deaver rears....

igotanxj

April 26th, 2009, 18:05

All coil springs are progressive. Think about it.
WTF? No, they aren't all progressive. Look at Rusty's springs, they don't have one end with coils wound tighter than the other like was previously posted. :lecture:

alek21

April 28th, 2009, 22:30

xjjeeper19

April 28th, 2009, 23:16

so they came today... they came in a rustys offroad box.. is there any way to tell for sure that they are deavers?? i know that just because the box says rustys on it doesnt mean they are, but i wanna make sure lol

Take a picture of them and post it here. He may have just bought rustys springs to replace them. My rusty's have the model number on one of the coils.

alek21

April 29th, 2009, 18:23

Ryan93

April 30th, 2009, 00:24

wow thats awesome, what coils did you have previously?

swbooking

April 30th, 2009, 00:30

wow thats awesome, what coils did you have previously?

just bought em :D got the guy down to 75 bucks... hope ill be happy with em, i think i will... as soon as they get here a pair of RE 5.5 coils will be up for sale :D

RE 5.5s im guessing... ;)

crazyjim

April 30th, 2009, 00:52

well i put em on today, and what a difference! geeze! i was hoping they would give me a little more lift but they didnt...but definitely a big improvement on the performance side! whether or not they are deavers im definitely happy with them. a lot stiffer!
If you want more lift than Deaver 5.5's then you need to go back to crawling son. Stay low slung and stable...

Swamprat

April 30th, 2009, 10:13

If you want more lift than Deaver 5.5's then you need to go back to crawling son. Stay low slung and stable...

maybe he wants lift to by pass his bumps.... like some one that is running 6.5" so that his shocks dont bottom out:laugh2:

alek21

April 30th, 2009, 23:23

If you want more lift than Deaver 5.5's then you need to go back to crawling son. Stay low slung and stable...

yea true dat... then i need to lower the rear.. my leafs sit pretty high, so it looks like a stink bug lol... can i just take my leafs out of the shackle and re-drill the hole higher up so that it sits lower? or no?

crazyjim

May 1st, 2009, 00:09

Definitely don't do that. Your springs need significant length on the shackle to be able to flatten out and work. Your only REAL option is to have them restretched by deaver or new springs.

Ryan93

May 1st, 2009, 09:39

or maby a shorter shackle if you already have an aftermarket extended one?

Loose_Nuts_Enterprises

May 1st, 2009, 10:45

Go spring under??

Swamprat

May 1st, 2009, 11:15

spring under on an XJ?

Loose_Nuts_Enterprises

May 1st, 2009, 11:33

spring under on an XJ?

Yeah, Most leaf sprung desert rigs, with the exception Jeepspeed run spring under. It allows a softer spring rate to get more travel and helps to eliminate axle wrap with the bigger travel. All the force from torque is spread out to the main leaf directly, rather than on the smallest leaves that will splay open until it gets to the main leaf.

Hope that makes sense...

-Dan

crazyjim

May 1st, 2009, 11:37

Go spring under??
Quit putting crazy ideas in these kids heads Dan! You know that's my idea hahaha.

Swamprat

May 1st, 2009, 14:53

yea true dat... then i need to lower the rear.. my leafs sit pretty high, so it looks like a stink bug lol... can i just take my leafs out of the shackle and re-drill the hole higher up so that it sits lower? or no?

are you running lift shackles?

Swamprat

May 1st, 2009, 14:54

Yeah, Most leaf sprung desert rigs, with the exception Jeepspeed run spring under. It allows a softer spring rate to get more travel and helps to eliminate axle wrap with the bigger travel. All the force from torque is spread out to the main leaf directly, rather than on the smallest leaves that will splay open until it gets to the main leaf.

Hope that makes sense...

-Dan

i knew about the spring under stuff, just never heard of it done to an XJ.