Advice? For Unfriendly Neighbor...

[WaXJ_Skier]

I live in a rented out MIL appartment/house that is located in the backyard of the main house on the property. The couple that rents the main house gets the driveway, and my GF and I have to use street parking. This is on a quiet residential street most of the houses have a front fence of some sort. Out of respect for the Neighbors I park down the street a ways so I'm not directly in front of anybodys house. The guy that lives on the corner has a long(back yard) fence that runs along the street. I generally park by that fence as it is A. Legal street parking. B. The only street parking not directly in front of anybody elses house. The guy on the corner has the following vehichles

mustang (parked in garage presumably his wife's)
Commuter car
drag car
travel trailer
Suburban
flatbed truck
Trailer with with a tractor

He recently got the flatbed and trailer and started parking them on the street along side the fence. He started leaving me notes telling me not to park there. The one time prior I talked to him I told him I would stick to one end to give him room. I have been doing that.
I left to go to the parts store yesterday in my Jeep an he immediately(my girlfriend was watching from her car) moved every vehcikle he could out of his driveway into the street parking. He basicly pulled the flattbed and trailer into the street and then took up the remaining space with his Suburban.
He has room for all of these in his driveway or in front of his house. There are currently 2 open spots in his driveway and 2 in front of his house. Anyone have any advise? I really can't park anywhere now without inconveniencing the other neighbors.

[RTicUL8]

I don't own the street in front of, or beside my house, but I know that it would upset me if someone else parked there on a regular basis.

The only suggestion I have would be to alternate your parking spots on a daily basis.

[Mutant_Xj]

Do your other neighbors park out front on the street? If they don't explain to them what's going on and ask them if its Ok to park in front of their house. If the guy is being a child over the parking spaces in front of his house theirs no reason to try to talk to him because he's already proved he's an idiot.

[WaXJ_Skier]

I was thinking of just parking in front of his house now that the spots are open.

[WaXJ_Skier]

Do your other neighbors park out front on the street? If they don't explain to them what's going on and ask them if its Ok to park in front of their house. If the guy is being a child over the parking spaces in front of his house theirs no reason to try to talk to him because he's already proved he's an idiot.

He vacated the spots in front to take the spots on the side, he has a corner lot.

[fscrig75]

I understand your trying to be neighborly by not parking directly in front of anyones house, but you live there too. You have the right to park relatively close to where you live.

The street is public and as long as its not posted anyone can park there.

[Sherman_thetank]

Just start parking all of your cars infront of his house.

[TekkaMaki]

park in one of the (now empty) spots in front of his house :guitar:

[bigalpha]

I don't own the street in front of, or beside my house, but I know that it would upset me if someone else parked there on a regular basis.

The only suggestion I have would be to alternate your parking spots on a daily basis.

Even if it was at the end of your property and you didn't even need it as a parking spot?

[IslanderOffRoad]

Park in his driveway

[plymatt65]

Slash his trailer tires!!!!! HaHaHaHa..... Sorry, my evil twin just took over.

"Can't we all get along?"

Park where you feel most comfortable, it's a f'ing public street.

[x2elite]

I would park in front of his house now that those spaces are open, but keep a close eye on your vehicle, and maybe be ready with video tape in case he tries to vandalize it.

[x2elite]

If he tries to get confrontational about it, don't even bother with him, just immediately call the police, and let them come make him look like an ass. No need to get yourself into trouble. I was a cop for several years, and believe me this kind of stuff happens A LOT more then you would think.

[welldone]

i would just park infront of his house. still leagally parked nothing he can do about it.

[old_man]

Here in friendly Loveland, Colorado, you can only park a trailer that isn't connected to a vehicle on the street for one hour. Does his drag car have valid registration and license plates. You can't park an unlicensed vehicle on a public street. Call the zoning commission. Some towns have a limit of vehicles in or at a residence.

[DownhomeMoto]

my wifes grandmother is like that, she has one car and it's in the gaurage. But the guy across the street has five cars...all used everyday (three kids that drive pluse him and his wife). Well one always is parked in front of her house and she always gets mad, and leaves notes and has even called the HOA on them. Well last week they parked there and she went out all in a huff and long type short.... they called the police on her...the police office was very nice about the whloe thing but told her in short if she doesn't leave them alone she will be the one in trouble. She has no clam to any part of the street. So with that... I would park where ever you want. If he is taking all the side street parking the go to an open one. And if it so happens to be in front of his house the so be it. But i would also keep close eye on your stuff... let us know...DH

[Coastie]

Get a flat bed trailer and wait for him to move his, then park the trailer where you used to park and just drive up on the trailer every night :)

[WaXJ_Skier]

Get a flat bed trailer and wait for him to move his, then park the trailer where you used to park and just drive up on the trailer every night :)

i was thinking of having a NW chapter "bring your own jeep" party.:pirate1:

[SeansBlueXJ]

I hate to say it but this is the way some people are. My mom's street has always been 90% street parking that is to say only like 10% of the homes have driveways. There are two houses that always pissed me off when i lived there. Our next door negibor was an old guy who felt it was "his" spot infront of his house always put a garbage can out. would yell if you parked there when he got home. Now he has a resident handicap spot so it is basically his. The other pissed me off more (and it hurt that he had a lifted XJ) he had 3 vehichels. the XJ which was a trail rig, his and his wifes cars. for some reason even though he has a drive way, all 3 are parked on the street always. Of course my new house i have plentiful parking in my driveway. I have had 5 cars there at one point and nobody was boxed in. (4 XJ's! but not all mine)

[cal]

I'm on the just park in front of his house until he moves, and then go back to parking where you have been, bandwagon.

It's a street, and he has no right to behave that way any more than you do. Let him get huffy and puffy and mad, remain cool. Let the neighbors see that. When he gets confrontational, call the cops and get it documented.

After he gets in trouble a couple of times, he'll give up.

[woody]

OK Grasshopper, without reading all this Mr Niceguy BS... I have two words of advice:

Roofing Nails.

[karstic]

Um...why can't you park on the street in front of the property that you live on?

No one else parks on the street besides you?

[WB9YZU]

I live in a rented out MIL appartment/house that is located in the backyard of the main house on the property. The couple that rents the main house gets the driveway, and my GF and I have to use street parking. This is on a quiet residential street most of the houses have a front fence of some sort. Out of respect for the Neighbors I park down the street a ways so I'm not directly in front of anybodys house. The guy that lives on the corner has a long(back yard) fence that runs along the street. I generally park by that fence as it is A. Legal street parking. B. The only street parking not directly in front of anybody elses house. The guy on the corner has the following vehichles

mustang (parked in garage presumably his wife's)
Commuter car
drag car
travel trailer
Suburban
flatbed truck
Trailer with with a tractor

He recently got the flatbed and trailer and started parking them on the street along side the fence. He started leaving me notes telling me not to park there. The one time prior I talked to him I told him I would stick to one end to give him room. I have been doing that.
I left to go to the parts store yesterday in my Jeep an he immediately(my girlfriend was watching from her car) moved every vehcikle he could out of his driveway into the street parking. He basicly pulled the flattbed and trailer into the street and then took up the remaining space with his Suburban.
He has room for all of these in his driveway or in front of his house. There are currently 2 open spots in his driveway and 2 in front of his house. Anyone have any advise? I really can't park anywhere now without inconveniencing the other neighbors.

It doesn't matter what your neighbor owns for cars, or how many.

It doesn't even matter that he doesn't want you to park infront of his property. He is obviously territorial- just leave him be.

Can you park infront of the property you rent from? That's the best course of action. You rent from them, make it their "inconvenience".

Unfortunately, you set yourself up for this confrontation. You rented a place with no off-street parking, and you refuse to park infront of anyone else's place for fear of pissing them off. So, you pick on one guy to piss off, and he is sick of you.

Now go treat your neighbor as you would like to be treated, or leave him alone. Either is an improvement on the game you're contemplating.

[WaXJ_Skier]

Um...why can't you park on the street in front of the property that you live on?

No one else parks on the street besides you?

Fire hydrant and mail boxes for the whole block.

[Darky]

It doesn't matter what your neighbor owns for cars, or how many.

It doesn't even matter that he doesn't want you to park infront of his property. He is obviously territorial- just leave him be.

Can you park infront of the property you rent from? That's the best course of action. You rent from them, make it their "inconvenience".

Unfortunately, you set yourself up for this confrontation. You rented a place with no off-street parking, and you refuse to park infront of anyone else's place for fear of pissing them off. So, you pick on one guy to piss off, and he is sick of you.

Now go treat your neighbor as you would like to be treated, or leave him alone. Either is an improvement on the game you're contemplating.
The neighbor has no claim on the road. If WaXJ is parking on the side, not even in front of the guy's house but next to it, what reason does the neighbor have to tell him no? He's said a few times there is nowhere to park whereas the neighbor does have somewhere to park.

I'd go with the park in front of his house til he moves plan. If all that's available is the side or the front, let him decide where he'd rather you parked.

[WB9YZU]

The neighbor has no claim on the road. If WaXJ is parking on the side, not even in front of the guy's house but next to it, what reason does the neighbor have to tell him no? He's said a few times there is nowhere to park whereas the neighbor does have somewhere to park.

I'd go with the park in front of his house til he moves plan. If all that's available is the side or the front, let him decide where he'd rather you parked.

He either learns to deal with a situation he landed himself in, or he moves out.

[wolfpackjeeper]

I like the buy a flatbed idea personally.

I was so glad to move out of my last apartment complex because of crap like this. Had one lady who hated where everyone parked. Of course, she was also the last person to move in...

park where you have to, there is no need for a confrontation, this guy is going out of his way to do this. If he does not want to park in front of his house, then obviously that opens those spots up for you.

+1 on the roofing nails

[Mtb Jak]

Just go talk to him!

[tbburg]

Had a lady in our complex that bitched about all the parking spaces around her apartment always being taken up. When she moved, about 10 spaces freed up around that building. Turned out all the extra cars belonged to friends of her kids. :D

WaXJ_Skier: my advice for you is to get 2 or 3 small web cameras and a cheap laptop computer. 'Wire up the ole XJ. My guess is, you keep parking around that corner, you're going to walk out to a severely damaged vehicle at some point soon.
Right or wrong, this neighbor has gone from verbal harassment to physically blocking the parking. Want to guess what the next step will be? There is no real simple solution, and talking to him about will probably only make it worse

[WaXJ_Skier]

Had a lady in our complex that bitched about all the parking spaces around her apartment always being taken up. When she moved, about 10 spaces freed up around that building. Turned out all the extra cars belonged to friends of her kids. :D

WaXJ_Skier: my advice for you is to get 2 or 3 small web cameras and a cheap laptop computer. 'Wire up the ole XJ. My guess is, you keep parking around that corner, you're going to walk out to a severely damaged vehicle at some point soon.
Right or wrong, this neighbor has gone from verbal harassment to physically blocking the parking. Want to guess what the next step will be? There is no real simple solution, and talking to him about will probably only make it worse

I've considered it, a bunch of lug nuts were very loose the other day. I'm not going to try and start anything I only have 4 months left on my lease and only 2 I have to pay for(incentive for 18 month lease). My GF and I both commute across a bridge so we are moving to the other side when our lease is up. I'm getting a place with a garage.

[tbburg]

Good luck. 'Hope nothing bad happens.

[bigalpha]

I've considered it, a bunch of lug nuts were very loose the other day. I'm not going to try and start anything I only have 4 months left on my lease and only 2 I have to pay for(incentive for 18 month lease). My GF and I both commute across a bridge so we are moving to the other side when our lease is up. I'm getting a place with a garage.

If your lugnuts are loose, I'd get a camera and train it on the Jeep. Then, when he touches your Jeep you can call the cops.

I wonder if you can claim attempted manslaughter if he loosens your lugnuts?

I wish I had a garage.

[WaXJ_Skier]

If your lugnuts are loose, I'd get a camera and train it on the Jeep. Then, when he touches your Jeep you can call the cops.

I wonder if you can claim attempted manslaughter if he loosens your lugnuts?

I wish I had a garage.


That could have been a Kid though, I live 1/2 a block from a HS

[89RockHeep]

That could have been a Kid though, I live 1/2 a block from a HS
You can never be to sure, and as i can see you have a kid, go over and speak to him, and make it very very very clear, that A he doesnt own the street, you have a right especially as a resident to park close to your home, and that your considerate enough to not inconvenience any neighbors, and that immature behavior will not be tolerated(intimidate,scare what ever it takes, he in all reality put your family at risk) moving cars is one thing, endangering you and your family is another, or, stoop to his level, and steal all his lugs, and stack his tires behind said vehicle that outa make it clear, personally if he had done that to me, i would have written him a note to piss him off, call him a pussy or what ever it woulda taken to get him to start something and wipe the floor with the guy. I dont care about what any of you say about that, a mans family is a mans family, and you dont endanger that!!!

[WaXJ_Skier]

You can never be to sure, and as i can see you have a kid, personally, id go over and speak to him, and make it very very very clear, that A he doesnt own the street, you have a right especially as a resident to park close to your home, and that your considerate enough to not inconvenience any neighbors, and that immature behavior will not be tolerated(intimidate,scare what ever it takes, he in all reality put your family at risk) moving cars is one thing, endangering you and your family is another, or, stoop to his level, and steal all his lugs, and stack his tires behind said vehicle that outa make it clear, personally if he had done that to me, i would have written him a note to piss him off, call him a pussy or what ever it woulda taken to get him to start something and wipe the floor with the guy. I dont care about what any of you say about that, a mans family is a mans family, and you dont endanger that!!!
I don't have a kid, That's my little sister. I'm 22 I live with my GF work and go to school, I don't have time to start fights with people who think they have a right to everything.

[bigalpha]

That could have been a Kid though, I live 1/2 a block from a HS

Who cares if it's your tard neighbor, a HS kid, or anyone else.

Loose lugnuts isn't something to play around you. That could kill you, your girlfriend, and other people. That's definitely one of those things you want to know what's going on.

[seanR]

That could have been a Kid though, I live 1/2 a block from a HS

Dude, wake up, it was him.
I wouldn't park in front of his house any more with out some kind of security on your car.
I had some other ideas for you, but if he is going to try to kill you, forget about it, move away....

[x2elite]

I would wait until the very last day when i was moving, and flatten every tire on every vehicle he owns, right before I got in my car to take the last load of my stuff to the new house.

[SeansBlueXJ]

I would wait until the very last day when i was moving, and flatten every tire on every vehicle he owns, right before I got in my car to take the last load of my stuff to the new house.

Easy to do, if you dont already have a valve core tool get one. Just steal all his valve cores... :pirate1:

[jonzer12]

If you are worried about bothering your good neighbours by parking infront of their house simply drop a letter in everyone's mailbox stating your courteous nature by previously parking by the fence. Mention that you are now only parking in front of homes due to the corner guy taking up all your old spots needlessly.
I bet none of them will care and one or two might say something to the corner guy to help you out.

[muddyrocks]

Personally, I already hate the guy... Here is another tack to consider; create a flyer for distribution to the neighbors and in it include the fact that your lugnuts were loosened. This advises them to be on the lookout for vandals and buys you some cheap surveilance. This advises him he may be watched.

Check your vehicle before each departure, use a locking gas cap, park where you can, and try not to let this guy eat up any more of your time and energy. Good luck, Mike

[muduck18]

Personally, I already hate the guy... Here is another tack to consider; create a flyer for distribution to the neighbors and in it include the fact that your lugnuts were loosened. This advises them to be on the lookout for vandals and buys you some cheap surveilance. This advises him he may be watched.

Check your vehicle before each departure, use a locking gas cap, park where you can, and try not to let this guy eat up any more of your time and energy. Good luck, Mike

The best advice I have seen here yet.

Play it low and safe. If your in school you don't have a ton of money for DVR equip to watch your junk.
Spread the word. (photo chop a pic of some one bending down next to your junk like you caught some one on camera tooling with it and put it on the flier)

Garage is nice.
And if anyone tried to play that crap on my street, they would get thier junk towed or destroyed.... but then again... there is no shoulder and everyone has driveways.

[Char-Broil]

mark if someone tried to park on your street lets face it, they would end up like your mailbox or just plan get hit. either way they'd end up like your mailbox...

[IslanderOffRoad]

I felt kinda like your neighbor last night.

Got home from work and one of my neighbor's kids g/f parked on the street along the curb between our two houses. They park 2 cars there and I park one., the curb can fit 4 cars. She managed to park in a manner that created 3/4 of a space behind her and 1 1/2 spaces in front of her. I dont mind that someone else parks there, but jeez, learn to park!

[Darky]

He either learns to deal with a situation he landed himself in, or he moves out.
How did he land himself in it? He's renting a house, there is no off-street parking available for him, there are however parking spaces open around the corner. The owner of the corner lot has decided to be unreasonable and insist that he not park in spaces that were obviously open and not in use. I don't see where this is his fault.

Should housing with no off-street parking be deemed unlivable or something? :dunno:

[rogersjeep]

Go get your jeep really muddy and park right in front of his house.
Then strech a water hose and spray off the heep (or hope it rians) leaving a nice mess that he can look at for a few days.

[Mudderoy]

1. Get a friend to "rut" his yard.
2. Super soaker full of brake fluid. (Drive by on his vehicles)

[muduck18]

1. Get a friend to "rut" his yard.
2. Super soaker full of brake fluid. (Drive by on his vehicles)

I am not sure how that is going to help...

That's like trying to get rid of a bee hive during the day. They will just come back at night and rebuild it. and if they see you trying: they will sting the $hit out of you.

[wolfpackjeeper]

yea, upping the ante to vandalizing his vehicles is not the answer. I would do the letter to the neighbors(all but him) explaining the situation. Then do a flyer for everyone advising that your lugnuts were loosened and to be on the lookout. Then just start parking where it is convenient to you and all the neighbors but him, if that is in front of his house, so be it.

[bigalpha]

If you pass out the flyer, make sure you clearly state where you were parked :D

[Mosephus]

I say keep parking where you want but protect yourself, sooner or later he will come directly to you to complain.

Our neighbor across the street had a problem with me parking mine in front of his house every now and then. I had to park across the street a couple times a week for a month and every time I'd come out to the jeep in the morning he'd deliberately park his car underneath my jeep as far as it would go like he was proving a point or something :dunno:(I wanted to "back" into it so bad).

Then one night I was getting ready for bed around 2 am and this Jerk come speeding up pulls in right under the jeep and gets out walks around my car and them steams over to my house banging on the door. I open and he starts yelling "you can't park there you can't park there" as I proceed in telling him he doesn't own the street.

Turns out he was pissed that he had to walk across a 3 foot strip of his grass to get to the sidewalk.

[x2elite]

I had the guy across the street from me bitch about me parking in front of MY OWN house in the street the other day. I had my big truck, with my box trailer for my motorcycles on the back, and had to park it on the street for about 3 days. Normally I keep this truck parked at my place of business, but I needed it at home and had no choice for a few days. Worst part about it is that he is renting that house, and I OWN my house. Not to mention he is about the worst possible neighbor one could have. Always being incredibly loud and obnoxious no matter what time of day, walks around with no shirt on in the front yard, litters in his own yard, and it ends up blowing over into mine.

[muddyrocks]

I had the guy across the street from me bitch about me parking in front of MY OWN house in the street the other day. I had my big truck, with my box trailer for my motorcycles on the back, and had to park it on the street for about 3 days. Normally I keep this truck parked at my place of business, but I needed it at home and had no choice for a few days. Worst part about it is that he is renting that house, and I OWN my house. Not to mention he is about the worst possible neighbor one could have. Always being incredibly loud and obnoxious no matter what time of day, walks around with no shirt on in the front yard, litters in his own yard, and it ends up blowing over into mine.

That guy needs a deuce in front of his door...

[tbburg]

you can buy marking paint (I think from Napa) that you apply with a small brush across nuts and an adjoining surface. If the nut loosens(or is loosened for you) it breaks the paint and you have a visual warning that the nut moved. 'Not sure of a brand name. I'd think about getting some if I were you.

[x2elite]

He is such a littering douche (nothing pisses me off more than people who litter). One day he was in the middle of the street (all white trash and shirtless like as usual) eating a bag of chips (not a small bag, a full sized bag of chips). My wife, and I as well as a few neighbors were in front of our house chatting, and we all watched him get done eating his chips and just throw the bag down in the middle of the street. My wife thought there was going to be a brawl, because I walked onto the edge of the street, and yelled at him to "Pick that $hit up". He looked like a deer in the headlights and did exactly as I said. But that still doesn't stop him from littering when he thinks no one is looking. My wife and I started watching more closely when we were at home, and everytime his trash ended up in our yard we collected it. About a week ago while he was out late one night (being a douche I assume) I went over to his house, with my staple gun, and stapled every piece of trash we had picked up over the course of about two weeks directly to his front door. I think he got the message because since then I haven't seen him throw a single piece of trash on the ground. He also has no clue it was me because all of our neighbors hate him for that same reason.

[WB9YZU]

I don't have time to start fights with people who think they have a right to everything.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but it appears you have the time to do exactly that, and come here and bitch about it.

You have a Landlord who did not guarantee you parking, which you believe you are entitled to, and you appearantly can't park infront of the place you rent (the polite thing to do).

You are aware that parking infront of someone else's place is "annoying" to your neighbors, you stated so yourself. It is impolite as hell to continiously park, uninvited, infront of someone else's private residence as if you own it. So why are you picking on this guy if you know he is territorial?

Wake up 22, you don't own <POOPIE>. When you do own <POOPIE>, you will feel just like the guy you are picking on.

So avoid the karma.
Get off your pride and get off the internet. Go have a beer with your neighbor.

Damn kids :D

[Darky]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but it appears you have the time to do exactly that, and come here and bitch about it.

You have a Landlord who did not guarantee you parking, which you believe you are entitled to, and you appearantly can't park infront of the place you rent (the polite thing to do).

You are aware that parking infront of someone else's place is "annoying" to your neighbors, you stated so yourself. It is impolite as hell to continiously park, uninvited, infront of someone else's private residence as if you own it. So why are you picking on this guy if you know he is territorial?

Wake up 22, you don't own <POOPIE>. When you do own <POOPIE>, you will feel just like the guy you are picking on.

So avoid the karma.
Get off your pride and get off the internet. Go have a beer with your neighbor.

Damn kids :D
So would you suggest he park at the bus station and catch a bus/walk home? The neighbor doesn't own the street in front of his house, he owns the house and the property its on. If there's nowhere to park, there's nowhere to park. People used to park in front of my apt all the time, it was irritating as hell when I had to walk a block or two to get to my apartment, but I realized I had no say in whether someone parked in front of my apartment.

[goodburbon]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but it appears you have the time to do exactly that, and come here and bitch about it.

You have a Landlord who did not guarantee you parking, which you believe you are entitled to, and you appearantly can't park infront of the place you rent (the polite thing to do).

You are aware that parking infront of someone else's place is "annoying" to your neighbors, you stated so yourself. It is impolite as hell to continiously park, uninvited, infront of someone else's private residence as if you own it. So why are you picking on this guy if you know he is territorial?

Wake up 22, you don't own <POOPIE>. When you do own <POOPIE>, you will feel just like the guy you are picking on.

So avoid the karma.
Get off your pride and get off the internet. Go have a beer with your neighbor.

Damn kids :D


oh look, a penis.

[seanR]

I would wait until the very last day when i was moving, and flatten every tire on every vehicle he owns, right before I got in my car to take the last load of my stuff to the new house.

That makes him just as bad as the original guy, he has more class than that....

[XJ_ranger]

i was thinking of having a NW chapter "bring your own jeep" party.:pirate1:

I'd go... but I'd have to tow it on the trailer :firedevil

[WB9YZU]

So would you suggest he park at the bus station and catch a bus/walk home? The neighbor doesn't own the street in front of his house, he owns the house and the property its on. If there's nowhere to park, there's nowhere to park. People used to park in front of my apt all the time, it was irritating as hell when I had to walk a block or two to get to my apartment, but I realized I had no say in whether someone parked in front of my apartment.

I am suggesting that he man up and go talk nicely to his neighbor, leave him the hades alone, find someplace else to park, or move his behind out of there.

Catholic Diety ! How many times do I have to make the same exact assertion before you read the not so fine print?

This isn't rocket science Darky, it's how to get along 101!

edit2: You can't tell me that "there is no place to park". You probably have never been to his place, I have not, but I would put good faith on the reasoning that there is parking within 2 blocks of his place. Inconvenient, well, sure, but it's possibly well worth the walk.

[WB9YZU]

oh look, a penis.

Yes, you are :D :cheers:

[muduck18]

This isn't rocket science Darky, it's how to get along 101!



Having had these types of confrontations several times, as a renter, an owner, and offender...
"get along 101" is really just keeping a cool head, Getting advice from trusted friends and then taking slow, carefully thought out action.
That is what this thread is

If you think that rolling over and taking it in the tailpipe because he should somehow listen to a guy that has resorted to child like behavior over parking spaces you are wrong. Two blocks is a long way to go for a car that you use every day. I know, I did it in college.

[89RockHeep]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but it appears you have the time to do exactly that, and come here and bitch about it.

You have a Landlord who did not guarantee you parking, which you believe you are entitled to, and you appearantly can't park infront of the place you rent (the polite thing to do).

You are aware that parking infront of someone else's place is "annoying" to your neighbors, you stated so yourself. It is impolite as hell to continiously park, uninvited, infront of someone else's private residence as if you own it. So why are you picking on this guy if you know he is territorial?

Wake up 22, you don't own <POOPIE>. When you do own <POOPIE>, you will feel just like the guy you are picking on.

So avoid the karma.
Get off your pride and get off the internet. Go have a beer with your neighbor.

Damn kids :D
He didnt park infront of the guys house, on the side,which is reasonable,As for owning "<POOPIE>" that does not seem like a valid argument as to the fact that its ridiculous.Just because some one doesnt have the good fortune to own the property they live in doesnt mean that its not theres, he signed a lease, and he pays rent, hes entitled to decent parking when and where he can, you know why its not in the lease? Because the city owns the street, so he has as much of a right to park there as any one else that lives close by it,thats like saying if he burned down the place it would be the landlords fault and hes not to blame.It works both ways. as for the marking paint, its called Tamper-Seal its about 3 bucks a tube,i agree that hitting all your lugs on the top where you can easily glance and see that it hasnt been disturbed would be a good idea.And possibly detour him from doing it again

[WB9YZU]

Having had these types of confrontations several times, as a renter, an owner, and offender...
"get along 101" is really just keeping a cool head, Getting advice from trusted friends and then taking slow, carefully thought out action.
That is what this thread is

If you think that rolling over and taking it in the tailpipe because he should somehow listen to a guy that has resorted to child like behavior over parking spaces you are wrong. Two blocks is a long way to go for a car that you use every day. I know, I did it in college.

Well, actually, that's not what this thread has turned into. It has turned into a lynching party of someone you have never heard of.

You, and most everyone else here, assumes that WaXJ is totally in the right, but it would be my bet this neighbor has a slightly different side to tell. Something seems to have pushed his button, and the only way of finding out what it is, is to go talk to him.

Both you and Darky seem to assume that a nice chat over a beverage will not solve anything, and that of the 3 remaining options, that parking a bit further away, if that is what is required, is some sort of terrible imposition. If he had paid for a parking spot, I could see that, but he did NOT, so he gets what patty shot at.

But hey, you know, what do I care?
I'm just someone almost 2.5 times his age, giving him some sound advice based on weighing the pros and cons on going to war over a stupid parking spot on a street where he won't be living much longer anyway.

[muduck18]

Well, actually, that's not what this thread has turned into. It has turned into a lynching party of someone you have never heard of.


Yeah that's exactly what I said. String up the neighbor for being childish about parking on the street.

Had you put your reading glasses on and read the ORIGINAL post you would find
The one time prior I talked to him I told him I would stick to one end to give him room. I have been doing that
Talking to him, didn't solve anything.

And I won't quote my advice again but please take the time to read it.
I am not calling for lynching.

He asked for advice, that's what has worked in the past.

and when the laws is on your side its much easier intimidate someone into giving up the fight.

[Darky]

Well, actually, that's not what this thread has turned into. It has turned into a lynching party of someone you have never heard of.

You, and most everyone else here, assumes that WaXJ is totally in the right, but it would be my bet this neighbor has a slightly different side to tell. Something seems to have pushed his button, and the only way of finding out what it is, is to go talk to him.

Both you and Darky seem to assume that a nice chat over a beverage will not solve anything, and that of the 3 remaining options, that parking a bit further away, if that is what is required, is some sort of terrible imposition. If he had paid for a parking spot, I could see that, but he did NOT, so he gets what patty shot at.

But hey, you know, what do I care?
I'm just someone almost 2.5 times his age, giving him some sound advice based on weighing the pros and cons on going to war over a stupid parking spot on a street where he won't be living much longer anyway.
Ron, wisdom doesn't always come with age. You may be 2.5 times his age, but I would expect that you would've learned reading comprehension in that time, unless that wasn't a part of the testing you had to do in school back then. See, we young punks can turn the whole age argument around on you old farts. ;)

BTW, my solution doesn't involve any sort of "fisticuffs", vandalism, or violence. All I'm saying is, there's no need to roll over and play dead to appease a bully. Appeasement doesn't work. Give him you lunch money today, tomorrow he invades Poland. Or something like that. He's not parking on the neighbor's property, blocking the neighbor's access or anything.

[WB9YZU]

Yeah that's exactly what I said. String up the neighbor for being childish about parking on the street.

Had you put your reading glasses on and read the ORIGINAL post you would find

Talking to him, didn't solve anything.

And I won't quote my advice again but please take the time to read it.
I am not calling for lynching.

He asked for advice, that's what has worked in the past.

and when the laws is on your side its much easier intimidate someone into giving up the fight.

You assumed a lot there bud. You assumed I didn't read the thread in the first place, you assumed I didn't read your posts, and you assume that re-opening a dialog with this person will not resolve anything.

Edit: ...He's not parking on the neighbor's property, blocking the neighbor's access or anything.
Darky, What you see as a bully behavior, I see as territorial behavior. It's not the same, and something triggered it. I don't know what the cause is, but there are only 4 options from here. The easiest would be to talk to the guy. The second easiest would be to leave him alone, and he'll leave WaXJ alone. Parking someplace else is likely an option and we've already discussed it. The last is to move out. That tells the Landlord that they will have difficulty renting the property if they don't resolve the parking situation AND gets WaXJ out of the hot seat.

You want to advocate a war over a fudging parking spot? Youth is truly wasted on the young.

I'm done with this thread. It's like watching CNN !!!1

[trd_xj42]

I look at this thread like this.
I'll play the grumpy neighbor. Zuki-Ron can be WaXJ. This thread will be the street.
You keep posting in this thread, I don't like reading what you have to say, please don't post here anymore. By your reasoning, you should quit posting here and go post in other threads because I don't like it. This however is not my thread or your thread, it is the internet and we all have a right to be here. :D
Keep parking where you want. I used to get frustrated in college with this same thing, but it's just something you have to deal with until you get a garage/driveway.

[XJ Eric]

LOL, yeah man this has been a hoot!
Sucks to be you man. The letter is the best idea also talk to the LANDLORD!!!! They've probly been there long enough to know the guy. Just park where you can.
The landlord doesn't want to lose a renter over a PIA neighbor.
I lived on a street where one of the neighbors had 4 full size vans and he took up all of the parking in front of my place. Pissed me off to no end but I couldn't do anything about it. Eventually moved on to better living.

[Darky]

Edit:
Darky, What you see as a bully behavior, I see as territorial behavior. It's not the same, and something triggered it. I don't know what the cause is, but there are only 4 options from here. The easiest would be to talk to the guy. The second easiest would be to leave him alone, and he'll leave WaXJ alone. Parking someplace else is likely an option and we've already discussed it. The last is to move out. That tells the Landlord that they will have difficulty renting the property if they don't resolve the parking situation AND gets WaXJ out of the hot seat.

You want to advocate a war over a fudging parking spot? Youth is truly wasted on the young.

I'm done with this thread. It's like watching CNN !!!1
My dog is territorial. She pees on my tires. I don't like it.

Territorial vs being a bully, same difference. Don't get hung up on semantics. Territorial only becomes a valid excuse if the WaXJ is parking on the guy's territory. Being a bully fits best. The neighbor is not being imposed upon. What harm is there in allowing WaXJ to park his vehicle in the street next your house? Point to one instance in history in which someone acted unreasonable and other countries tried to appease and talk, that didn't end up in war? We were signing a peace treaty with Japan on Dec 7th, 1941. Churchill and the rest of the Allies had made a deal with Germany to avoid aggression. We've had dialogues and set sanctions and punishments with Iran to stop enriching uranium. Where has it gotten us? Pearl Harbor was bombed, Poland and France were invaded, Iran likely has the materials needed to build a nuke like, right now. I'm not saying go nuke the guy, I'm saying keep an eye on stuff, if he makes any attempts at sabotage, report him to the police. Speak to the other neighbors, they've likely had problems with the guy too. He already attempted to talk to the neighbor. If the neighbor had a problem, he should've voiced it then. If he developed the problem later, he should've brought it up. If the neighbor has already been approached and is now acting like a retard, why would we have any reason to believe that further discussion would yield any improvement?

Where have I advocated a "fudging war" over a parking space? I swear, the wisdom of old age is wasted on those with no common sense.

[WB9YZU]

If the neighbor has already been approached and is now acting like a retard, why would we have any reason to believe that further discussion would yield any improvement?



For some reason I feel a need to respond to this, even though it is the same exact rhetoric I have heard the whole thread.

Darky, people are a problem. They always have been, and they always will be. They come in all sizes, shapes, colors, and all have their own little kit of baggage they carry around inside their head.

As you go though life, you will find that some people are just high maintenance. You will find these people in all walks of life, and all income levels. You will have to deal with these folks. They can not be "taught a lesson" or respond constructively to any of the infantile retaliatory advice given in this thread. The only way these folks can be dealt with is by talking to them, sometimes on a consistant basis.

Is it "right" or "wrong"? No, it's just the way some people work.

Nowhere in this thread have I advocated the neighbor's behavior.
But, with that said, from his stand point, it makes sense.

Your approach has been, without knowing all the facts in the case (you don't know the neighbor's side of things), to assume that his neighbor is acting like a fruitcake and you would not go talk to him again. For some reason, that approach almost never works in real life.

I will leave you with one last piece of old person advice from my bag of old fart non-wisdom. An apology costs you nothing, but gains you everything.

Anyway, that is really the last post for me.

WaXJ, good luck!

[muduck18]

You assumed a lot there bud. You assumed I didn't read the thread in the first place, you assumed I didn't read your posts, and you assume that re-opening a dialog with this person will not resolve anything.
I'm done with this thread. It's like watching CNN !!!1

My name is Mark, I respond to Mud, but never "bud", "chief", Or "Scooter".
I didn't assume anything; I read your post and it was obvious you didn't read (or perhaps didn't process) the thread or my posts.

As far as "resolution by talking" it can happen, but is not likely, children, or adults that resort to child like behavior don't listen, they think they are right and will not reason...
It never hurts to talk to them about it but here is one of my examples:

Feb 08, I went to my in-laws for the weekend and came home to a flooded basement. My neighbors had decided that my sump pump was getting their driveway wet, and moved the discharge for me to point it up hill away from their driveway. It froze, burned up a $200 pump, and flooded my basement.
I called them, we talked, I purchased a new pump a longer discharge and ran it further away from their driveway. we agreed that it was better.
Two weeks later
I had to go away on business for two days. My wife called me at the hotel and told me the neighbor had just moved the hose again.
I called the neighbor, we talked, my wife moved the hose back. Crisis avoided...not quite.
neighbor moved the hose in the middle of the night.
It froze. burned up the new $200 pump.
Neighbor called me. told me it was my legal responsibility to keep my water off his driveway.
He was wrong, but his childish behavior caused him to not listen and cost me $800.
It cost him $17,000 to build the county required culvert under his driveway to allow for my run off.
Child like behavior does not listen to reason.

[x2elite]

Sucks that it cost you $800.00, but that right there is justice. HA

My name is Mark, I respond to Mud, but never "bud", "chief", Or "Scooter".
I didn't assume anything; I read your post and it was obvious you didn't read (or perhaps didn't process) the thread or my posts.

As far as "resolution by talking" it can happen, but is not likely, children, or adults that resort to child like behavior don't listen, they think they are right and will not reason...
It never hurts to talk to them about it but here is one of my examples:

Feb 08, I went to my in-laws for the weekend and came home to a flooded basement. My neighbors had decided that my sump pump was getting their driveway wet, and moved the discharge for me to point it up hill away from their driveway. It froze, burned up a $200 pump, and flooded my basement.
I called them, we talked, I purchased a new pump a longer discharge and ran it further away from their driveway. we agreed that it was better.
Two weeks later
I had to go away on business for two days. My wife called me at the hotel and told me the neighbor had just moved the hose again.
I called the neighbor, we talked, my wife moved the hose back. Crisis avoided...not quite.
neighbor moved the hose in the middle of the night.
It froze. burned up the new $200 pump.
Neighbor called me. told me it was my legal responsibility to keep my water off his driveway.
He was wrong, but his childish behavior caused him to not listen and cost me $800.
It cost him $17,000 to build the county required culvert under his driveway to allow for my run off.
Child like behavior does not listen to reason.

[Darky]

For some reason I feel a need to respond to this, even though it is the same exact rhetoric I have heard the whole thread.

Darky, people are a problem. They always have been, and they always will be. They come in all sizes, shapes, colors, and all have their own little kit of baggage they carry around inside their head.

As you go though life, you will find that some people are just high maintenance. You will find these people in all walks of life, and all income levels. You will have to deal with these folks. They can not be "taught a lesson" or respond constructively to any of the infantile retaliatory advice given in this thread. The only way these folks can be dealt with is by talking to them, sometimes on a consistant basis.

Is it "right" or "wrong"? No, it's just the way some people work.

Nowhere in this thread have I advocated the neighbor's behavior.
But, with that said, from his stand point, it makes sense.

Your approach has been, without knowing all the facts in the case (you don't know the neighbor's side of things), to assume that his neighbor is acting like a fruitcake and you would not go talk to him again. For some reason, that approach almost never works in real life.

I will leave you with one last piece of old person advice from my bag of old fart non-wisdom. An apology costs you nothing, but gains you everything.

Anyway, that is really the last post for me.

WaXJ, good luck!
There is no need to give in to the demands of a high maintenance person. Your view seems to be that because this guy doesn't qwant WaXJ parking there anymore, WaXJ must have done something to provoke him. But as you stated, some people are high maintenance and will tend to cause problems. I'm not saying we need to get stupid and do something to teach him a lesson, but perhaps not kowtowing to his whims he may start to see that you can't try and bully people and get away with it.
Like the old song said, "You can't always get what you want..."

EDIT: BTW, I only mention age because you brought it up like we should respect your opinion or listen to you because you're older than him. :)