New Engine!

Dropped my XJ off yesterday to get a new engine.

WELL ISSUES ALREADY CAME UP!!!

$1100 for the engine was the quote for the short block. That is not what they told me. So $1300, that is $200 more then it was supposed to be. Something totally understandable. About $150-200 in hoses and cables need replaced (It was about dead). That is THAT much more. My $1750 engine swap turned into $2150 engine swap. AHHH!! Lift is on hold now until mid may! So total price when I get it back next week is $2250. He is installing my new transfer case and gauges for about $100 bucks. I am so down that it will be like 2 more weeks to get my lift then planned. We are thinking about 7 weeks from now for the lift. I will finish my bumper and get a new muffler in that time hopefully.

Did, you as a customer, agree to these extra parts being added to the total?

fill me in on this engine. is it just stock 4.0 is it stroker 4.6. what did you have before. also what transfer case did you put in.

Where are you having it done?

People wonder why my estimates on motor jobs are so expensive until I fill them in on how most shops work (like this one), I just include everything up front, no surprises.

Well its just a straight swap. Worn broken 4.0 I6 for new rebuilt 4.0 I6. I agreed to the extra parts and am stopping by to make sure I'm not getting ripped Sunday. I want it to be fresh and running good. There were so many things wrong with it. And the guy quoted me a short block price for a long block. It just frustrates me but somehow I knew this was going to happen. So I am getting it all resolved Sunday. After I get it back I want to do cold air intake, 10% over fuel injector, and a cat back system of some sort or a high performance muffler and possibly some headers. I'm getting my np231 transfer case replaced and my idiot light gauges replaced with some better gauges out of a 1990 that are actual gauges not idiot lights.

89heepxj said:

Well its just a straight swap. Worn broken 4.0 I6 for new rebuilt 4.0 I6. I agreed to the extra parts and am stopping by to make sure I'm not getting ripped Sunday. I want it to be fresh and running good. There were so many things wrong with it. And the guy quoted me a short block price for a long block. It just frustrates me but somehow I knew this was going to happen. So I am getting it all resolved Sunday. After I get it back I want to do cold air intake, 10% over fuel injector, and a cat back system of some sort or a high performance muffler and possibly some headers. I'm getting my np231 transfer case replaced and my idiot light gauges replaced with some better gauges out of a 1990 that are actual gauges not idiot lights.

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I dont see the reason to complain about price when you agreed to have the extra parts installed. :dunno:

Cold air kit wont do anything for you, unless its a true cold air intake, not just a cone filter on the end of a shiny tube. That will just draw in all the hot air from the exhaust manifold.

Bigger injectors on a stocker is a waste IMO. May run into run problems, fuel issues, ect..

The stock exhaust works, but I wouldnt waste my money on a cat back when you can take it to a muffler shop and have new pipe and possibly a Flowmaster installed(if you like the sound). Your stock 4.0 'header' works good enough for a stock engine. You'll have to tear back off the intake to get it off/on.

SO since you got a short block, did he reuse your old head? Or send it out to a machine shop to have it checked out/rebuilt? Is the shortblock new or used? What company did he use?

No I got the long block. I was quoted $1100 for the long block but that price was for the short block. I am getting the long block I just have to pay $200 more. Which I have come to turms about. I was just venting everywhere last night.

In the future I want to run 37" BFG MT KM2's and HPD44's. Could a stock I6 push that no problem? With Front and Rear lockers rear tire carrier and winch?

89heepxj said:

No I got the long block. I was quoted $1100 for the long block but that price was for the short block. I am getting the long block I just have to pay $200 more. Which I have come to turms about. I was just venting everywhere last night.

In the future I want to run 37" BFG MT KM2's and HPD44's. Could a stock I6 push that no problem? With Front and Rear lockers rear tire carrier and winch?

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5.13 gears are a MUST with that size tire. I would not run that on stock gears.

Yeah I was going to go lower gears. But the I6 should push that?

89heepxj said:

Yeah I was going to go lower gears. But the I6 should push that?

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Yes, with those gears it will.

Cool. My goal is Petersons 4Wheel and Offroad Ultimate Adventure in about 4 years.

89heepxj said:

Yeah I was going to go lower gears. But the I6 should push that?

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Toyota guys run 42"s with the 105hp 21ft/tq 22re.. gearing is everything

a good running 4.0L can spin 37's on dry asphalt with the proper gearing.

cool. If I dont sell them I have a HPD44 right side drop and 8 3/4. upgrade to 4.88 or 5.13 gears and a disco brake conversion. get them cut to fit. It might be spendy but might be worth it in a few years when i start getting into more crazy wheeling.

Heck, I run with a two Yota' guys running twin transfercases via marlin crawlers one of hich has 39's on a 22R. I think he has somthing like a lowest final drive of 160:1 or somthing nuts like that. Not good in mud or anything that requires a lot of wheel speed but you should see them cral up in the rocks.