Anyone catch Xtreme 4X4 today?

[kdailey4315]

They did a step by step for installing gears in a front Dana 44. I thought it was very informative and a great tool for someone wanting to swap gears. He really explained everything in great detail.

[RCman]

I just watched in on the DVR after dinner, I was a little disappointed with a couple of his points.
The thing I really did not like how he used an impact to tighten the pinion nut. That torque has direct effect on the pinion preload and that should be tightened with a torque wrench.

[kdailey4315]

I just watched in on the DVR after dinner, I was a little disappointed with a couple of his points.
The thing I really did not like how he used an impact to tighten the pinion nut. That torque has direct effect on the pinion preload and that should be tightened with a torque wrench.

I do agree with you on that. He used a torque wrench for the carrier (I believe that's what their called) bolts but he did use an impact wrench for the pinion nut. I think it was just for time constraints being on TV and all. He did explain before hand how important the torque wrench was though for every bolt.

[iafr8e]

I caught that today. Great show as was the episode of Trucks before that with the XJ build with an 8.8 swap. Any way... as someone who has limited info on building axles, it got me pretty pumped to rebuild my first one.

Although it left me feeling like I needed to dump a decent amount of coin just to get the tools to do it right. Especially the pinion depth gauge.

Is that the case or are those tools fairly cheap?

Either way, it was some good stuff to watch.


-Mike

[IllianaXJ]

I just watched in on the DVR after dinner, I was a little disappointed with a couple of his points.
The thing I really did not like how he used an impact to tighten the pinion nut. That torque has direct effect on the pinion preload and that should be tightened with a torque wrench.

If you're using shims and you have the stack correct, it won't hurt to run the nut down most of the way with an impact on low setting. Heck, even with a crush sleeve pinion like in my 8.8, I still run the nut down most of the way with the impact and finish up with a torque wrench.

[xjtrailrider]

I just watched in on the DVR after dinner, I was a little disappointed with a couple of his points.
The thing I really did not like how he used an impact to tighten the pinion nut. That torque has direct effect on the pinion preload and that should be tightened with a torque wrench.

Yes and no, pinion preload is set by shims on a D-44(no crush sleeve) and you should have around 20-30 inch pounds of preload. Pinion nut torque is set to 200-220 ftlbs.

So if the gun didn't get it tight enough, then yep, pinion preload is off, to tight and it may or may not hurt anything, just depends.

[Begster]

Yes and no, pinion preload is set by shims on a D-44(no crush sleeve) and you should have around 20-30 inch pounds of preload. Pinion nut torque is set to 200-220 ftlbs.
Spec is 14-19 in/lbs of pre-load.

[xjtrailrider]

Spec is 14-19 in/lbs of pre-load.

My bad! Its hard to remember all of them

[RCman]

Although it left me feeling like I needed to dump a decent amount of coin just to get the tools to do it right. Especially the pinion depth gauge.

Is that the case or are those tools fairly cheap?

You don't need a pinion depth gauge. I manage just fine without one as well as many others.
Yes and no, pinion preload is set by shims on a D-44(no crush sleeve) and you should have around 20-30 inch pounds of preload. Pinion nut torque is set to 200-220 ftlbs.

So if the gun didn't get it tight enough, then yep, pinion preload is off, to tight and it may or may not hurt anything, just depends.
While setting up my D60, which has a pinion nut torque spec of 220-280ft*lbs, a change of 10ftlbs from 230 to 240 had a change on the preload of 1-2in*lbs. I'd say that is significant. Although, maybe I just over do things with precision. :rolleyes: I ended up @ 250ft*lbs of torque on the nut and 27in*lbs of rotational force with the new bearings.


All that being said, I thought today's episode was a decent show.

[GrimmJeeper]

screw that anyone catch Jessi from Extreme 4x4 on the king of the hammers coverage??? mmmmmm :D :D :D :D

[XJPhoenix]

I caught that today. Great show as was the episode of Trucks before that with the XJ build with an 8.8 swap -Mike

I liked the cheap Jeep build too, but didn't like what they did with the bumpers or the fenders.

The front & rear bumpers (as far as I could tell) are only held on at the factory bumper mount locations. This is usually fine, but those bumpers have recovery points & 2x2" receivers built in, and with today's show we know they're planning on using a winch in a cradle mount. Will the bumpers hold up? Probably, but they might also tear loose. They could've incorporated more mounting points; they could have used stock tow-hook bracket mounts in their home-built bumpers. And the fender trimming, if you watch it, it looks like they just sliced away as much metal as they pleased; they didn't mention anything about not cutting past the spot-welds. At least if they did, I didn't catch it. Did they mention it, and I missed it?

On the other hand, I like the fact that they used an old XJ and tried to keep it fairly cheap.

As far as X-Treme 4x4, it was good and gave me hope of trying my own axle build one day. I just wish Jessi had popped back in, even just as a 'thanks and see ya' or something like that.

Ah well...

:)

[kdailey4315]

As far as X-Treme 4x4, it was good and gave me hope of trying my own axle build one day. I just wish Jessi had popped back in, even just as a 'thanks and see ya' or something like that.

Ah well...

:)

I(t actually gave me hope also.

[DrMoab]

Does anyone know why she left the show?

[alex22]

Edit: Nevermind, I read the OP and realized I didn't know what was going on.

[billyjp2]

Although it left me feeling like I needed to dump a decent amount of coin just to get the tools to do it right. Especially the pinion depth gauge.

Is that the case or are those tools fairly cheap?



summit racing has the pinion depth setting tool for just over $80 and $30 for the higher end dial indicator.

[GrimmJeeper]

Does anyone know why she left the show?
i heard rumors that she hurt her back and couldnt participate in the builds anymore for ins reasons, but i have no info to back that up. she sure seemed fine rock hopping yesterday! :D

[DrMoab]

i heard rumors that she hurt her back and couldnt participate in the builds anymore for ins reasons, but i have no info to back that up. she sure seemed fine rock hopping yesterday! :D

She broke her back...I knew that but she was on the show after she got better but she couldn't do much.

I hope she comes back.

[Jester99]

She is not coming back unfortunately. This is from her blog...

The rumors are all true....well, the ones about my leaving Xtreme 4x4 anyway.



The past few years with the Xtreme team were full of unbelievable journeys, never to be forgotten. Although I must say, it is time for me to move on and grow deeper into the custom metal fabrication world that I have barely scratched the surface of. There are a few good things up my sleeves, but nothing solid yet. Trust me, I will let you know the next big gig!



Thank you for your continued support and loyal dedication! You will continue to see me on SpikeTV, in the off-road circuit and of course down many more avenues of the automotive field. So keep your eyes and ears open to what lies ahead by stopping in to www.jessicombs.com (http://www.jessicombs.com/) often, cus you never know what’s around the corner!

[JeepFreak21]

I caught that today. Great show as was the episode of Trucks before that with the XJ build with an 8.8 swap. Any way... as someone who has limited info on building axles, it got me pretty pumped to rebuild my first one.

Although it left me feeling like I needed to dump a decent amount of coin just to get the tools to do it right. Especially the pinion depth gauge.

Is that the case or are those tools fairly cheap?

Either way, it was some good stuff to watch.


-Mike

Especially the one tool that he said was optional? http://www.slicky.net/smilies/rofl.gif

The tools are expensive! I'm getting ready to do mine...
I bought my dial-style In/Lb torque wrench for a little under $150, one of our NAXJA brothers GAVE me a nice dial indicator http://www.slicky.net/smilies/cooleek3.gif which probably saved me about $75, I'm borrowing/renting a Ft/Lb torque wrench from VatoZone, and another NAXJA homey is letting me borrow his press...

If you can get the tools cheaper... props to you! http://www.slicky.net/smilies/biggrin.gif

Billy

[XJPhoenix]

When/if the time comes for me to do it, I'd buy the tools. The money you save by doing it more than once more than off-sets the cost of the tools. Plus, you can help someone else when they try it.

Or, more likely, your friends will keep bugging you to do it for them...

:)

[djblade311]

screw that anyone catch Jessi from Extreme 4x4 on the king of the hammers coverage??? mmmmmm :D :D :D :D

I got to chat with her and Ian at KOH. mmm Jessi is hotter in person. They are both down to earth and really smart. I asked jesse about her departure from Extreme 4x4 and she misses it but said she left on very good terms.

[tkjeeper]

I've gathered most of the tools myself, not too bad, ebay for the in/lb torque wrench and micrometer and depth guage locally not too bad. The big expense for me is the damn Yukon bearing puller, be nice to have but WAYYY to high priced for me. But it's not necessary tho so screw that. Had a sad failed attemp to make my own, don't ask. Just go with setup bearing I guess and take my time. I don't care if it takes me a month to get it right, it's the learning that is the cool part.

[Jimbo_1321]

summit racing has the pinion depth setting tool for just over $80 and $30 for the higher end dial indicator.

do you have links?
I have a hard time with summit's website..

[iafr8e]

Especially the one tool that he said was optional? http://www.slicky.net/smilies/rofl.gif

Nice to know that tool is optional.:doh:

Guess I'll be shopping around for some new tools once I get my tax return.


do you have links?
I have a hard time with summit's website..

Here, I did a quick google search.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=sum-900021

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM-900016-1&N=700+4294855951+115&autoview=sku

Mike

[Jimbo_1321]

thanks!

[freerider15]

I got to chat with her and Ian at KOH. mmm Jessi is hotter in person. They are both down to earth and really smart. I asked jesse about her departure from Extreme 4x4 and she misses it but said she left on very good terms.

X2, she and Ian were really chill. Jessi was DRUNK on friday night, that was rather amusing talking to her :D