View Full Version : Ego-maniacs? What a loser..
Geepfreak
September 27th, 2006, 12:27
If anyone knows this guy, would you slap him for me to.. (http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_4400993)
Damn suwa people (http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_4402769)
slider
September 27th, 2006, 12:37
If anyone knows this guy, would you slap him for me to.. (http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_4400993)
Damn suwa people (http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_4402769)
I would prefer more than a slap!!!!!
Brad M.
September 27th, 2006, 13:05
X2 :twak:
Israel
September 27th, 2006, 14:49
If anyone knows this guy, would you slap him for me to.. (http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_4400993)
Wow. He knows me better than I do. That's kind of creepy.
DaveW
September 27th, 2006, 14:51
Such single mindedness and a myoptic vision. A well rounded argument. :wow: :looser: :twak: :dunce:
jmaxj
September 27th, 2006, 15:15
i can show you were there president lives we could party on his place:D
luv2offroad
September 27th, 2006, 15:40
STUPID!!! I don't even hunt and I can tell you that most hunters are more respectful of the land and animals than the non-hunter. And I'm tired of taking the rap for quad runners and mountain bikers and those few off-roaders who create their own trails.
5-90
September 27th, 2006, 16:00
Hunters do more - and pay more - for conservation efforts than the so-called environMENTALists...
Why do I hunt/have I hunted? Because I was hungry. I also find it a valuable skillset - being able to feed myself should the machinery of society break down.
I've got a strong streak of self-reliance, mainly due to my grandfather and one of my uncles. I learned more practical survival skills (from refining an edge on sharp pointy things to various ways to kill things to eat...) from them than I have anywhere else.
Hunting isn't an "ego" thing for me - never has been. It's all about food, man! If it walks, crawls, swims, creeps, or flies; I've probably eaten it...
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XJEEPER
September 27th, 2006, 16:34
Hmmmm.....I know a Paul Hunter from Salt Lake City. Somewhat ironic, isn't it....guy named Hunter opposes hunting? Perhaps he's a closet self-loather......:confused1
Geepfreak
September 27th, 2006, 16:39
Hmmmm.....I know a Paul Hunter from Salt Lake City. Somewhat ironic, isn't it....guy named Hunter opposes hunting? Perhaps he's a closet self-loather......:confused1
I wasted a few minutes and Googled him, seems to have an affiliation with sierra club.
PosiDave
September 27th, 2006, 17:25
I hunted for 3 years. I am now a vegan. I fully agree with hunters and people who hunt for food an game. I do not at all agree with many rich a**holes this guy probably knows who spend $5000 to go on a game farm and shoot a throphy buck that they fed steroids. Enviromentalists are the same. I own a jeep I offroad. It is my way of keeping in touch of nature. People who drive their hummers and eat mcdonalds but yet bitch at evey person that could survive in the woods need to get a life.
Anyone who has any sort of lifestyle aside from that shown on talk tv shows is shown wrong by most people.
It is ok to drive a hummer. But not a off road vehicles that still gets better gas mileage.
It is ok to eat animals raised in a factory and never once had a chance to live free. It is not ok to kill animals in a humane way (hunting) where they can atleast enjoy freedom.
It is ok to have 3 marriages and 6 kids and get a divorce. But you are some kind of sad apthetic soul if you never get marriged.
The majority of people (about 90% on the east coast are ignorant and don't deserve in my opinion to be living on the street but in a cage.
5-90
September 27th, 2006, 17:30
I hunted for 3 years. I am now a vegan. I fully agree with hunters and people who hunt for food an game. I do not at all agree with many rich a**holes this guy probably knows who spend $5000 to go on a game farm and shoot a throphy buck that they fed steroids. Enviromentalists are the same. I own a jeep I offroad. It is my way of keeping in touch of nature. People who drive their hummers and eat mcdonalds but yet bitch at evey person that could survive in the woods need to get a life.
Anyone who has any sort of lifestyle aside from that shown on talk tv shows is shown wrong by most people.
It is ok to drive a hummer. But not a off road vehicles that still gets better gas mileage.
It is ok to eat animals raised in a factory and never once had a chance to live free. It is not ok to kill animals in a humane way (hunting) where they can atleast enjoy freedom.
It is ok to have 3 marriages and 6 kids and get a divorce. But you are some kind of sad apthetic soul if you never get marriged.
The majority of people (about 90% on the east coast are ignorant and don't deserve in my opinion to be living on the street but in a cage.
Yeah - and if you're only married once and still happy (ten years and counting...) that probably makes you strange as well. I just love these people who keep track of "celebrity marriages" - they change spouses more often than I buy new socks!
Granted, I'm already a minority in CA, I'm sure - white, straight, male, and married (to a women.) And, I speak English - and only English - as a point of honour.
Your "the majority of people" statement only has one error - it's not just the East Coast that's like that. I see a great many people every day out here who, frankly, should not go about in plublic without an escort for their own safety. I hate saying it, but that's the simple fact of it (whatever happened to self-sufficiency?)
It's people like this that seek to increase "official" meddling about in our daily lives. He's probably going to wonder why he gets all the hate mail shortly...
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SCW
September 27th, 2006, 21:42
I hunted for 3 years. I am now a vegan. I fully agree with hunters and people who hunt for food an game. I do not at all agree with many rich a**holes this guy probably knows who spend $5000 to go on a game farm and shoot a throphy buck that they fed steroids.
What gives you the right to decide if some guy can raise a stupid animal, and if some other guy can use his own money to shoot that animal? If you offered a farmer $5K to shoot a cow, no farmer would turn you down. Is it suddenly wrong if he sticks part of the dead animal on his wall?
Vegan, pisshhhtttt. Stupid and arrogant with a misguided preception of what a man is at liberty to do with his time, money and resources. I hunt for food and fun. I appreciate good taxidermy, but don't have any. I used to live on a farm and we sold tags for thousands of dollars to anyone who wanted to pay, but there is no way I'd pay that. His right to pay it, my right to charge it. Nobodys right to legislate the morality of shooting a stupid animal you paid to shoot.
JeeperG
September 27th, 2006, 22:46
Speaking of SUWA did you guys catch this thread? http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/showthread.php?t=36933 I hope somebody gets lots of pics or even some video. :D
ChicksDigWagons
September 27th, 2006, 22:47
My personal favorite is that this guy would rather see you shoot another human being than an animal "Shoot something than can shoot back"...
Grrrr
93 XJ
September 28th, 2006, 05:54
I am not a hunter with guns(I do hunt with a camera), but I agree with you guys. Hunting for food is what our country is based off of. People have been doing it for hundreds of years. I have no problem with that. What I don't like is people who hunt just for the thrill of it. If you kill it eat it.
I jeep hike and mountain bike and it upsets me that people think that if one person does damage it must be all of them that do it. Don't lump us in with those lugheads, they are retarded. Most enviros live in the city right, so food is naturally there for them. They don't have to go look for it.
I am also in the military, though I have never shot at anybody I hope to God that I never have to. From what I have been told you aren't the same after you shoot at a human being. Don't get me wrong I will defend myself and my comrades if I have to.
DrMoab
September 28th, 2006, 17:26
What gives you the right to decide if some guy can raise a stupid animal, and if some other guy can use his own money to shoot that animal? If you offered a farmer $5K to shoot a cow, no farmer would turn you down. Is it suddenly wrong if he sticks part of the dead animal on his wall?
Vegan, pisshhhtttt. Stupid and arrogant with a misguided preception of what a man is at liberty to do with his time, money and resources. I hunt for food and fun. I appreciate good taxidermy, but don't have any. I used to live on a farm and we sold tags for thousands of dollars to anyone who wanted to pay, but there is no way I'd pay that. His right to pay it, my right to charge it. Nobodys right to legislate the morality of shooting a stupid animal you paid to shoot.
X2 dude...on every level and every point.
DrMoab
September 28th, 2006, 17:28
Oh and on the SUWA guys...Did you know they are now aiming to close down the rest of the dirt roads in the park? Including Elephant Hill and all the roads in the Dollhouse-Maze area?
Something to keep a very close eye on.
SCW
September 28th, 2006, 19:10
X2 dude...on every level and every point.
That's good, I was afraid I was the only uber-conservative around. It drives me nuts how being a sissy has become the new manlyness. The fags can have their own pride week anywhere in the US, but anything conservative or classical we are supposed to be embarassed about. Bull.
We ate part of my wife's deer-burger last night. Mmmm, deer tacos...
5-90
September 28th, 2006, 19:19
I hunted for 3 years. I am now a vegan. I fully agree with hunters and people who hunt for food an game. I do not at all agree with many rich a**holes this guy probably knows who spend $5000 to go on a game farm and shoot a throphy buck that they fed steroids. Enviromentalists are the same. I own a jeep I offroad. It is my way of keeping in touch of nature. People who drive their hummers and eat mcdonalds but yet bitch at evey person that could survive in the woods need to get a life.
Anyone who has any sort of lifestyle aside from that shown on talk tv shows is shown wrong by most people.
It is ok to drive a hummer. But not a off road vehicles that still gets better gas mileage.
It is ok to eat animals raised in a factory and never once had a chance to live free. It is not ok to kill animals in a humane way (hunting) where they can atleast enjoy freedom.
It is ok to have 3 marriages and 6 kids and get a divorce. But you are some kind of sad apthetic soul if you never get marriged.
The majority of people (about 90% on the east coast are ignorant and don't deserve in my opinion to be living on the street but in a cage.
Something tells me you are taking the right approach tho - if you want to be a vegan/vegetarian/vagitarian/whatever - that's your choice. I choose not to be (actually, I don't really choose to be carnivorous - my metabolism demands it. I can't get enough protien if I cut out meat from my diet entirely.)
However, your talking about "being vegan" doesn't bother me - because you're not preaching it to me, you're not getting in my face about it, and you're not trying to sell me on "the benefits of a vegan/vegetarian diet" - for me, there are none. I'd be dead within six months.
It's the "militant vegans" that I find annoying - leave me be. If I want to eat that Burger King Quad, fine. If I want to have an Easter ham (I don't care for ham, but my wife wants one,) then stay out of my face about it.
Reminds me of an incident a few years ago - we go to Honeybaked Hams for our Easter ham, and PETA is out. There's also a cop there working "detail" (side security work, that sort of thing.) PETA gets all in my face about two feet away from the cop (probably thinking it would protect him - he was about half my size) and tells me about all the wonderful advantages of a vegetarian diet, and how eating meat is cruelty, and all that what-have-you.
I stop, track d-o-w-n to his face (it was about a foot and a half,) and just growl back, "Vegetables are what food eats."
Kid turns white, cop starts laughing behind his hands, and we go inside.
Oddly enough, they made a w-i-d-e path for us when we came out - probably thought I was hungry... All I really ask of these people is they stay out of my face - I don't wave steaks under their noses now, do I?
I leave you with a closing thought from GWAR - "Beefcake the Mighty owes his physique to a strict diet of vegetarians."
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Geepfreak
September 28th, 2006, 19:27
That's good, I was afraid I was the only uber-conservative around. It drives me nuts how being a sissy has become the new manlyness. The fags can have their own pride week anywhere in the US, but anything conservative or classical we are supposed to be embarassed about. Bull.
We ate part of my wife's deer-burger last night. Mmmm, deer tacos...
I've been eating/chewing on Deer Jerky all day,,,, and for the "bolded" area(EDIT:screw it, the whole response is bolded now:D), don't hand me a beer and then ask me that question, unless you care to HEAR an opinion, and how the wife and I enjoy Elk and Moose steaks/burgers.......
SCW
September 28th, 2006, 20:06
I'll put up with your opinion in trade for jerky :D:D Just as long as you're content with my nodding agreement once in a while between stuffing my cheeks like a chipmunk.
DrMoab
September 28th, 2006, 21:33
That's good, I was afraid I was the only uber-conservative around. It drives me nuts how being a sissy has become the new manlyness. The fags can have their own pride week anywhere in the US, but anything conservative or classical we are supposed to be embarassed about. Bull.
I don't consider myself uuber-conservative. Just fiercely independent. Most issues would probably lean further to the right.
However when it comes to most things that involves the outdoors, or the Environment then yes...I truly lean that way.
DaveW
September 29th, 2006, 09:59
I've been eating/chewing on Deer Jerky all day,,,, and for the "bolded" area(EDIT:screw it, the whole response is bolded now:D), don't hand me a beer and then ask me that question, unless you care to HEAR an opinion, and how the wife and I enjoy Elk and Moose steaks/burgers.......
Now you are making me hungry...ymmy yummy yummy :lickout: !!!
Back on topic...
The problem is the self rightious attitude that what I want is best for everyone. Many if not most people can fall into that type of attitude every once in a while. But the majority realize where thay are headed and get over it. Some just can't see any other side of an issue even if you turn it over and beat them with it.
The world would be rather boring if we all stood in line and bindly followed.
JEEPZZ
September 29th, 2006, 15:24
Oh and on the SUWA guys...Did you know they are now aiming to close down the rest of the dirt roads in the park? Including Elephant Hill and all the roads in the Dollhouse-Maze area?
Something to keep a very close eye on.
This issue really pisses me off. SUWA says that the Salt Creek road needs to be closed because it's a river bed when all that's REALLY there is a drainage area. If you get up Salt Creek in the summer it's completely dry, no river. Why don't they compromise and close it in early spring when there is a little runoff BUT SUWA doesn't want any compromise, they want everything closed down. Idiots!
I Jeep'd up Salt Creek up to Angel Arch back before it was closed down the first time and it's a very scenic, dry canyon.
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