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luvrox
September 26th, 2006, 20:59
So Dave, how'd it go at CTM today? Did Richard nut up for the discount price on 3 sets of 300M stubbs or is he still in the "I have only broke allot of Spicer 30 spline crap so the 33 spline SPICER CRAP should be OK"? Was Jack still pi$$ed at me about the Longfield birfs when ya got there today ? :D :D
Garry

MogifiedXJ
September 26th, 2006, 21:04
Does this really belong in advanced fab??? Seems more like chit ie non-tech/off-topic...

:dunno:

David Taylor
September 26th, 2006, 21:16
So Dave, how'd it go at CTM today? Did Richard nut up for the discount price on 3 sets of 300M stubbs or is he still in the "I have only broke allot of Spicer 30 spline crap so the 33 spline SPICER CRAP should be OK"? Was Jack still pi$$ed at me about the Longfield birfs when ya got there today ? :D :D
Garry

My checkbook and I will be there tomorrow. Yes, Richard is on board for a set.
The spicer 33 spline stuff might work with 37. But as we all know 37 might not last for long.
I'm sure the 300M stubs are as strong or stronger than a 35 sline 4130 stub.

David Taylor
September 26th, 2006, 21:18
Does this really belong in advanced fab??? Seems more like chit ie non-tech/off-topic...

:dunno:

Do you really have mogs running under your xj ? If so post pics, If not shut up tard.

luvrox
September 26th, 2006, 21:26
Does this really belong in advanced fab??? Seems more like chit ie non-tech/off-topic...

:dunno:


Ok Homer I think I understand, some here have no idea what a High 9 with 300M is with relationship to wheeling or for that matter even life in general. :D :D :D

Weasel
September 26th, 2006, 21:30
300m vs. 4130? Not even close if done right 300M should be considerably stronger.

MogifiedXJ
September 26th, 2006, 21:33
oh I think I understand, some here have no idea what a High 9 with 300M is with relationship to wheeling or for that matter even life in general. :D :D :D

It's got nothing to do with a high nine w/ 300m shafts and their realtionship to the wheeling world...

Your original post has nothing to do with advanced fab. You were asking Dave how'd it go at CTM and if Jack was still pissed at you...Something you could have done via a pm or by posting up in off topic. Where it belongs, oe maybe I'm just missing something.

luvrox
September 26th, 2006, 21:44
It's got nothing to do with a high nine w/ 300m shafts and their realtionship to the wheeling world...

Your original post has nothing to do with advanced fab. You were asking Dave how'd it go at CTM and if Jack was still pissed at you...Something you could have done via a pm or by posting up in off topic. Where it belongs, oe maybe I'm just missing something.

Or maby













































it was a lead in to what some very dedicated XJ people are doing on their highly advanced rigs.:twak:

MogifiedXJ
September 26th, 2006, 21:49
Alright, I really didn't mean anything personal by it. Maybe it wasn't my place to say anything. Now back on topic with your-all's highly advanced rigs.

luvrox
September 26th, 2006, 21:52
Alright, I really didn't mean anything personal by it. Maybe it wasn't my place to say anything. Now back on topic with your-all's highly advanced rigs.

Thanks but rite now I have some high tech kingpins to work on, to be cotinued tomorrow.;)

Paul S
September 26th, 2006, 22:02
Thanks but rite now I have some high tech kingpins to work on, to be cotinued tomorrow.;)

Your kingpin axles are unJack approved:moon:

P

GSequoia
September 26th, 2006, 22:58
Why do all these people have hard ons for Chrysler 300M's? I find them ugly myself.

http://images.securedwebform.com/reviews/images/03-300m-1.jpg

BrettM
September 26th, 2006, 23:43
Why do all these people have hard ons for Chrysler 300M's? I find them ugly myself.

http://images.securedwebform.com/reviews/images/03-300m-1.jpg
but imagine if you could fit that whole thing inside your front axle... that would have to be strong... right?

Goatman
September 26th, 2006, 23:59
Any discussion about Jeep parts custom made by a CNC machine out of 300M is advanced tech. Looks like I just can't resist............. :)

However, I don't currently have 33 spline Spicer stubs, they are 33 spline Dutchman/Tera stubs and are 1541, which would be similar in strength to 35 spline Spicers. AND, I've never broken a 30 spline Spicer stub........I've broken 4340 19 spline D44 stubs. :D

So how much stronger is 300M supposed to be than 1541 or 4340? I assume a 300M 33 spline stub will be as strong as a 4340 35 spline stub.....or stronger?

Damn, now I also have to pony up for a pair of CTM's. There goes my air bumps for the front. :D

GSequoia
September 27th, 2006, 00:21
but imagine if you could fit that whole thing inside your front axle... that would have to be strong... right?

Are you allowed to cut it up and reconfigre the shreddings or does it have to go in in that shape :puke:

Seems like you might lose a tad of ground clearnce over, say, an underside trussed tractor trailer axle with 30" x 9.50" tires.

Captain Ron
September 27th, 2006, 05:58
Tempting.

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/mj215,jpg

--ron

red91
September 27th, 2006, 06:40
Why do all these people have hard ons for Chrysler 300M's? I find them ugly myself.

http://images.securedwebform.com/reviews/images/03-300m-1.jpg


I like the fact we sell EVERY stinking motor to one of those things....

Captain Ron
September 27th, 2006, 06:50
Tempting.

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/mj215,jpg

--ron

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/mj215.jpg

:D

--ron

Goatman
September 27th, 2006, 08:31
That's nice!!

I have a couple of those. :D

Paul S
September 27th, 2006, 08:47
So how much stronger is 300M supposed to be than 1541 or 4340? I assume a 300M 33 spline stub will be as strong as a 4340 35 spline stub.....or stronger?


The way I see it:
With 4340 you leave your spare in the trailer box, with 300M you don't have a spare.

Paul

BIGWOODY
September 27th, 2006, 10:44
I can tell you when these arrive soon...I'll sell my two sets of 4340 35 spline stubs/axles.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j282/gmanstone2/Dana60_CVjointsPhoto.jpg

lugie
September 27th, 2006, 13:05
I can tell you when these arrive soon...I'll sell my two sets of 4340 35 spline stubs/axles.


Greg,

Have you broken 4340 stubs? I managed to break a Spicer 35 spline stub, but I'm pretty sure it was actually a bearing failure. I'm now running one 4340 stub, probably gonna step up to all 4340's soon(still running neck down inners).

BrettM
September 27th, 2006, 13:10
I can tell you when these arrive soon...I'll sell my two sets of 4340 35 spline stubs/axles.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j282/gmanstone2/Dana60_CVjointsPhoto.jpg
now THAT is what I would stuff in a 60

GSequoia
September 27th, 2006, 13:13
I can tell you when these arrive soon...I'll sell my two sets of 4340 35 spline stubs/axles.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j282/gmanstone2/Dana60_CVjointsPhoto.jpg


Mmmmm..... big balls.

:D

Weasel
September 27th, 2006, 14:30
I can tell you when these arrive soon...I'll sell my two sets of 4340 35 spline stubs/axles.


Asked the Twisted Cusotm boys how those were working and they said they are jerky and nor really all that smooth. Interesting to see how they work out for ya.

David Taylor
September 27th, 2006, 14:34
now THAT is what I would stuff in a 60


No unit bearing option.

David Taylor
September 27th, 2006, 21:20
So I went over to CTM today. Turns out they are only about 12 miles from my house. It is some operation. Several large CNC machines hard at work on chunks of 300M. Jack is a super nice guy and spent 45 min with me showing off all kinds of cool stuff and talking about the new stub shafts. Paul, Richard and myself now have some on order. These will allow for 44 degree turn. Nice and sharp. He had one on hand and it really is a piece of art work. Unfortunately it will be approximately 8 weeks before I have one to take pics of.
He also showed off some new 1550 front stuff that makes 60's look like an old 260 size joint. Don't even want to think how much that stuff runs, and some 40 spline inners for his own rig. Hard to imagine how big this stuff is till you hold it in your hand.

luvrox
September 27th, 2006, 21:49
I can tell you when these arrive soon...I'll sell my two sets of 4340 35 spline stubs/axles.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j282/gmanstone2/Dana60_CVjointsPhoto.jpg

Can ya say Brinell? :wow:

Fred
September 27th, 2006, 22:10
Just thought I'd post this for those of us who don't spend a lot of time thinking about steel alloys:

300M is a low alloy, vacuum melted, steel of very high strength. Essentially it is a modified AISI 4340 steel with silicon, vanadium and slightly greater carbon and molybdenum content than 4340. 300M has a very good combination of strength (280 to 305 ksi), toughness, fatigue strength and good ductility. It is a through hardening alloy.



Fred

mikecooper
September 28th, 2006, 08:13
http://www.sunrayengineering.com/images/1550-9sm.jpg
There ya go for a 1550 comparison, Sunray has been making the 1550 for a while and also make a 1610 front assembly. BTW thats a sunray 1550 vs a sunray d60 vs a stock d60 stub

Goatman
September 28th, 2006, 09:38
I can tell you when these arrive soon...I'll sell my two sets of 4340 35 spline stubs/axles.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j282/gmanstone2/Dana60_CVjointsPhoto.jpg



I'm assuming you have to remove the knuckle to install those things..............though I guess it doesn't matter much since you should never have to replace them.

Nice.

Lincoln
September 28th, 2006, 17:01
So I went over to CTM today. Turns out they are only about 12 miles from my house. It is some operation. Several large CNC machines hard at work on chunks of 300M. Jack is a super nice guy and spent 45 min with me showing off all kinds of cool stuff and talking about the new stub shafts. Paul, Richard and myself now have some on order. These will allow for 44 degree turn. Nice and sharp. He had one on hand and it really is a piece of art work. Unfortunately it will be approximately 8 weeks before I have one to take pics of.
He also showed off some new 1550 front stuff that makes 60's look like an old 260 size joint. Don't even want to think how much that stuff runs, and some 40 spline inners for his own rig. Hard to imagine how big this stuff is till you hold it in your hand.

I've been eyeing Sunray's 1550 junk for a few months now. Everytime I do my wallet slaps me like a box of rocks. Maybe because that's what's in it.

Any hints on the knuckles? Sunray goes out of my league because everything is new and I wouldn't feel right if I didn't have a few pasture parts on it.

Now lugie, the onlything that would make your posts more advanced if you got pics of you peeing on their bling parts. :D

lugie
September 28th, 2006, 17:04
Now lugie, the onlything that would make your posts more advanced if you got pics of you peeing on their bling parts. :D


lets see, I peed on your teraflex long arm...it didn't help.

I peed on okie terry's tire...it looked pretty.

still wnat to know if greg broke alloys up front.

Lincoln
September 28th, 2006, 18:42
lets see, I peed on your teraflex long arm...it didn't help.

I peed on okie terry's tire...it looked pretty.

still wnat to know if greg broke alloys up front.

That's why it didn't break. I had a mexican tell me once that it will harden metal just like curing leather, but you have to drink the good stuff.

I bet Bighardon did break one. I've come to the conclusion that if he can't break it with the skinny peddle he'll find someway to damage so it does. That way he can justify the extreme bling. Fawk I'm jealous.

lugie
September 28th, 2006, 23:13
That way he can justify the extreme bling. Fawk I'm jealous.

some day...some day *dreamingofbling*

mikecooper
September 30th, 2006, 08:16
Well I work in Weatherford about 5 miles from Lances outfit over at Sunray. If you guys have any questions or want to see some more detailed pics of the 1610 :) and 1550 send me a pm and we can exchange numbers.

BIGWOODY
October 2nd, 2006, 10:27
still wnat to know if greg broke alloys up front.
yes, One full set of 4340's on the short side and the stub on the other side. This past weekend I ripped about 5" of the teeth on the HP60 ring gear, the shafts didn't break and niether did the lockright. In high gear, 6300 rpms, verticle wall, 400hp LS1, something had to give I guess...but hey, I was the only one to even attempt the line and I made it...it was just expensive. I wouldn't be worried about 4340 stuff in your front end.

David Taylor
October 25th, 2006, 20:21
Parts are under way. Stopped in today for a look.
the start of 8 nice stubs
http://pic.piczo.com/img/i215136648_53676.jpg


end shot of one:
http://pic.piczo.com/img/i215118673_55178.jpg

Here is a 40 spline next to the 33 spline stuff
http://pic.piczo.com/img/i215107675_72691.jpg

Oh Gary, Jack had a good idea. We were talking about how we would know when your rig finaly made it to the trailhead. All we have to do now is listen
for your birf's to come clicking up the trail.:kissyou:

Goatman
October 25th, 2006, 20:28
Wow!! Awesome looking stuff.

Which two are mine? :)

luvrox
October 25th, 2006, 21:45
Hey guys it's not to late, a little magic machining on the inside and you could still have Jack turn them into 33 spline birf's. :D

Paul S
October 26th, 2006, 07:27
Hey guys it's not to late, a little magic machining on the inside and you could still have Jack turn them into 33 spline birf's. :D


Click-click-click...

Actually, in your buggy it will be more like click---------click-------click

P

luvrox
October 26th, 2006, 18:03
Wow!! Awesome looking stuff.

Which two are mine? :)

Don't ya see the two ugly ones that are slightly out of spec.? :D
Ohhh Richard, richard, richard, don't tell me you actualy trusted Paul and Dave.:doh:

David Taylor
December 21st, 2006, 21:28
Just to bring this to a close. Picked them all up today.
Here are a few shots.
http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i220855862_54218.jpg
http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i220884806_53576.jpg

Here you can see how they are cut out to make them turn to 45 degrees.
http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i220879849_27075.jpg

Clint
December 21st, 2006, 21:44
Just to bring this to a close. Picked them all up today.
Here are a few shots.
http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i220855862_54218.jpg
http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i220884806_53576.jpg

Here you can see how they are cut out to make them turn to 45 degrees.
http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i220879849_27075.jpg

Awesome!

:worship: :worship: :worship:

FarmerMatt
December 22nd, 2006, 07:43
I can send you a can of CAT yellow to keep them from rusting. It has been proven to add strength as well.

Lincoln
December 22nd, 2006, 09:24
I can send you a can of CAT yellow to keep them from rusting. It has been proven to add strength as well.

BS, between the cat and the yellow it makes you a pussy.

Paul S
December 22nd, 2006, 10:56
Lets not bring this to a close just yet.

After seeing the difference between our clearanced 300M Jack stubs & regular Chromo 60 axles, we had to order some inners too:

http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={71D56EBB-197A-43A0-865A-5D414FF07106}&exp=f&moddt=39073.7833141551&ssdyn=1

http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={0D141883-E3D5-4958-B3B6-C2E158C17AEC}&exp=f&moddt=39073.7804559838&ssdyn=1

Paul

88flexj
December 22nd, 2006, 12:54
MMM beefy:greensmok

Maxwell
December 22nd, 2006, 15:39
this makes me wanna go out and find another $200 cj5, blow out the fuel
lines, and just drive it.
i miss the fun of driving a simple piece of crap......those ctms are more
bling than i ever paid for a single jeep i've owned.
whatever, theres maybe 6 people on this forum that could afford that
kind of crap, but thanks for sharing your paycheck with us.

:pirate1:

Lincoln
December 22nd, 2006, 16:46
Break a few standard parts and they are paid for.

Goatman
December 22nd, 2006, 17:10
this makes me wanna go out and find another $200 cj5, blow out the fuel
lines, and just drive it.
i miss the fun of driving a simple piece of crap......those ctms are more
bling than i ever paid for a single jeep i've owned.
whatever, theres maybe 6 people on this forum that could afford that
kind of crap, but thanks for sharing your paycheck with us.

:pirate1:

To each his own. I'd rather work on mine in the garage, but I have absolutely no problem with someone like yourself who wants to have the most fun for the least money. I've fixed mine on the trail many, many, many times. I'm done with that if possible.

Half a dozen that could afford those? Maybe, but there's half a dozen of us that are getting them right now. :)

vetteboy
December 22nd, 2006, 22:31
Well, 300M or not, the Dana 60 stuff is nothing to sneeze at.

I'm running Spicer D60 u-joints and Spicer D60 shafts (35 spline inner, 30 outer). Those joints alone give me a lot more confidence, because I was breaking 760x joints almost every time out. Now I can do my front digs with pride.

I would rather work on mine in the garage too. Trail breakage sucks. That's why I don't run with anyone bigger than 35's and a D44 anymore.

Pay to play, man. It's been said, but you've got three criteria: cheap, big, and reliable. And you only get to pick two. Choose wisely.

cracker
December 23rd, 2006, 11:15
http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={0D141883-E3D5-4958-B3B6-C2E158C17AEC}&exp=f&moddt=39073.7804559838&ssdyn=1

The one on the left looks hardKore though ;)

Lincoln
December 23rd, 2006, 11:33
The one on the left looks hardKore though ;)

You make me horny when you talk like that.

Mike L
December 23rd, 2006, 15:48
this makes me wanna go out and find another $200 cj5, blow out the fuel
lines, and just drive it.
i miss the fun of driving a simple piece of crap......those ctms are more
bling than i ever paid for a single jeep i've owned.
whatever, theres maybe 6 people on this forum that could afford that
kind of crap, but thanks for sharing your paycheck with us.

:pirate1:

Not always true. I'm sure more of us could afford it. But I would rather eat than starve for a few weeks. :roflmao:

-Mike

Maxwell
December 24th, 2006, 08:04
ya, i like to eat as well.

Mr.OverKill
December 24th, 2006, 09:36
Not always true. I'm sure more of us could afford it. But I would rather eat than starve for a few weeks. :roflmao:

-Mikeeating is way over rated!! just ask my brother, he is even paying the doctor $130 a week to avoid eating!!

i just dont have any thing to put those beautifull pieces in to yet, i need to get rid of crackers junk and do bents truss so i can build my creation, a 609 with my own housing design! but that will be a different thread for a later time.


by the way, those pieces are awsome, and i love coke!! :laugh3:

Ramsey
December 24th, 2006, 23:06
Not always true. I'm sure more of us could afford it. But I would rather eat than starve for a few weeks. :roflmao:

-Mike
Just eat ramen for a while.

XJ_ranger
December 24th, 2006, 23:57
Just eat ramen for a while.

yeah - it worked for the Lebanese government - how do you think they afforded hesbolah?

:D :D

Ramsey
December 25th, 2006, 00:43
yeah - it worked for the Lebanese government - how do you think they afforded hesbolah?

:D :D
Remind me to smack you the next time I see you.

xDUMPTRUCKx
December 25th, 2006, 01:18
So I went over to CTM today. Turns out they are only about 12 miles from my house. It is some operation. Several large CNC machines hard at work on chunks of 300M. Jack is a super nice guy and spent 45 min with me showing off all kinds of cool stuff and talking about the new stub shafts. Paul, Richard and myself now have some on order. These will allow for 44 degree turn. Nice and sharp. He had one on hand and it really is a piece of art work. Unfortunately it will be approximately 8 weeks before I have one to take pics of.
He also showed off some new 1550 front stuff that makes 60's look like an old 260 size joint. Don't even want to think how much that stuff runs, and some 40 spline inners for his own rig. Hard to imagine how big this stuff is till you hold it in your hand.


Ha I live closer than you! I live down the street on 78th and el camino and I pass his shop every morning on the way to work.

I got the grand tour as well when I dropped off averys 69 for shaft measurements.

I gotta convince jack to let me work a few hours every afternoon after I get off work for a set of 300m d60 joints.

I noticed he was using his ujoints as shifter knobs on his atlas.........that's insane.

After seeing longfields crap and jacks product and all the workmanship that jack puts into every piece, its a no brainer.

Longfields are half the price for a reason. When I held them side by side with a ctm I could see that I'd rather pay for the best and that's ctm.

Oh and that 300m candy apple looking thing looks ghey. Clicking metal makes usually means something is wearing and fast too......

Weasel
December 30th, 2006, 11:24
i miss the fun of driving a simple piece of crap......those ctms are more
bling than i ever paid for a single jeep i've owned.
whatever, theres maybe 6 people on this forum that could afford that
kind of crap, but thanks for sharing your paycheck with us.

:pirate1:

Yeah well thats life. Of course you don't need the eltra bling parts to wheel.

David Taylor
January 25th, 2007, 07:43
Here are some more pics from yesterday. Stopped by to order some sets of inner shafts. 1550 stuff just for Lincoln.
This is a 44 joint next to the big stuff
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/1550004.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/1550003.jpg

The stub is Billit. from something like a f650. Like this they will turn 60degrees.

Oh, Cracker the mill is fixed. Maybe it's not to late to take your shafts back for the cut outs.

cracker
January 25th, 2007, 08:25
Oh, Cracker the mill is fixed. Maybe it's not to late to take your shafts back for the cut outs.

Thanks

Since Dumptruck seems to go by there every day now, I will ask him to take them over and clearance them.

Mike L
January 25th, 2007, 09:03
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/1550004.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/1550003.jpg

Damn, looking at the pics I am glad I sold my XJ. This sport is getting too expensive. :looser:

-Mike

xDUMPTRUCKx
January 25th, 2007, 09:47
I got a job over there with jack working for parts.I woulda been there yesterday but I had to replace the radiator in my wifes jeep.

looks like I might be joining the 300m crowd soon as well.....

now I just have to build everything else on my junk to match .

cracker
January 25th, 2007, 09:55
I got a job over there with jack working for parts.I woulda been there yesterday but I had to replace the radiator in my wifes jeep.

looks like I might be joining the 300m crowd soon as well.....

now I just have to build everything else on my junk to match .

Can you square away my shafts?

-Avery

Weasel
January 25th, 2007, 09:57
Are those Paule's? I know they are running Jacks 1550 stuff and their new axles are spidertrax with Hih-9's. They just did a TJ and got 56 deg from the steering, the ones for the buggy should be 60deg.

xDUMPTRUCKx
January 25th, 2007, 10:29
Can you square away my shafts?

-Avery

David Taylor
January 25th, 2007, 12:01
Are those Paule's?

I'm not sure. He said they were for somebody who just bought the buggy.
I think they were in getting rebuilt. Jack said the bushings take alot of wear at the high
angle.

Lincoln
January 25th, 2007, 16:42
Those things give me a woody. :D

Probably Paule's since there's were done a while back. Here is the story I got from Jason.

F650 knuckles to clear the massive yokes. F650's still use a D60 style yoke though. :confused1

Spidertrax is working on their knuckles to accept a 1550 yoke and use the regular 250/350 Ford unit bearing.

That's all I have, so I must go squirt on myself now.

David Taylor
March 21st, 2007, 21:10
update:

Inners are done.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0213.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0214.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0218.jpg
The man himself(axle Jack) putting them together.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0215.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0216.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0217.jpg

All finished.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0220.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0219.jpg

Matt S.
March 21st, 2007, 21:28
wow....




wow....





wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





you suck. :)

vetteboy
March 21st, 2007, 22:30
Very pretty.

So is the larger area near the splines for the seal surface? Regardless, why not forego a little bit of machining process and leave it that diameter all the way down?

I'm well famailiar with stress risers at transitions, and I realize that the minor diameter at the splines is still the smallest point and most susceptible to twist...just wondering why they're built that way.

Weasel
March 21st, 2007, 22:58
Very pretty.

So is the larger area near the splines for the seal surface? Regardless, why not forego a little bit of machining process and leave it that diameter all the way down?

I'm well famailiar with stress risers at transitions, and I realize that the minor diameter at the splines is still the smallest point and most susceptible to twist...just wondering why they're built that way.

So you don't twist splines?

vetteboy
March 21st, 2007, 23:06
In a front D30 axle, I've broken 7 u-joints without harming any splines. On a D44 front axle I've broken 2 stock shafts before anything else showed any damage.

In my rear, I was recently informed that the stock XJ D44 I sold to JoeShmoe on here had some twist on one of the shafts. I think I have the cause on video, because I remember watching it and thinking wow, that rear axle really loaded up there...

All I'm wondering is what's the point, because it looks like the remainder of the shaft was turned down after the seal surface. Dana did this same thing on the earlier stock D60 35-spline inners and later kept the same diameter out to the spindle bearing instead of bringing the diameter down.. Just wondering why they were made this way is all.

Capt. Nemo
March 22nd, 2007, 05:48
In a front D30 axle, I've broken 7 u-joints without harming any splines. On a D44 front axle I've broken 2 stock shafts before anything else showed any damage.

In my rear, I was recently informed that the stock XJ D44 I sold to JoeShmoe on here had some twist on one of the shafts. I think I have the cause on video, because I remember watching it and thinking wow, that rear axle really loaded up there...

All I'm wondering is what's the point, because it looks like the remainder of the shaft was turned down after the seal surface. Dana did this same thing on the earlier stock D60 35-spline inners and later kept the same diameter out to the spindle bearing instead of bringing the diameter down.. Just wondering why they were made this way is all.

These guys are weight freaks (no offense). Probably has something to do with saving a few ounces to keep the front end light.

vetteboy
March 22nd, 2007, 06:11
These guys are weight freaks (no offense). Probably has something to do with saving a few ounces to keep the front end light.

Every little bit helps, I guess...

(my rig is the antithesis of weight savings)

Since it's been quoted and I can't edit it anymore, I'll just mention that where I said "spindle bearing" before, I really meant just to the yoke end of the inner shaft.

xDUMPTRUCKx
March 22nd, 2007, 06:42
man i havent been over there in two weeks, looks like i missed some good stuff.......

Goatman
March 22nd, 2007, 07:19
Looks like I'll be swapping axles after this weekend.

:D


When you have chromo axles and CTM's in the front, it makes me wonder about those semi-float 1541 axles in the back (except farmerboy, and Cliff). I guess it just means you're NEVER going to break a front axle.

Opps! I used that word....... :)

xDUMPTRUCKx
March 22nd, 2007, 07:44
theyve been broken. ive seen the evidence.

v8 power....well if you call a stroked ls7 power.........
44s a huge undercut and a rock pinning the top of the guys rig broke a 14 bolt 300m shaft. when the tires arnt moving that 5-600 horses has to go somewhere.

210* of twist.

jack explained to me his reasoning for the extra removed material and it has to do with taking the stress off of the splines. 300m can twist ALOT and twisted splines would render the shaft useless. ill ask him again so I wont look like an ass explaining it wrong.



Looks like I'll be swapping axles after this weekend.

:D


When you have chromo axles and CTM's in the front, it makes me wonder about those semi-float 1541 axles in the back (except farmerboy, and Cliff). I guess it just means you're NEVER going to break a front axle.

Opps! I used that word....... :)

Paul S
March 22nd, 2007, 07:58
[QUOTE=David Taylor]update:

Inners are done.

Well Dave, I don't think I need to worry about Leilani asking about all the checks I wrote for these things, I'm sure once I show them to her she'll understand & agree that it was $ well spent, sexy...:D

P

Paul S
March 22nd, 2007, 08:03
Looks like I'll be swapping axles after this weekend.

:D


When you have chromo axles and CTM's in the front, it makes me wonder about those semi-float 1541 axles in the back (except farmerboy, and Cliff). I guess it just means you're NEVER going to break a front axle.

Opps! I used that word....... :)

I've been thinking the same thing about the rears. I want to upgrade to CTM's, but not without building a new Spidertrax housing at the same time, but then it just turns into a whole nother project.

P

FarmerMatt
March 22nd, 2007, 09:47
For the ultimate in strength they need to be painted either green or yellow...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/davidgtaylor/DSC_0219.jpg

Goatman
March 22nd, 2007, 12:43
From what I remember seeing, that green and yellow crap breaks.

:looser:

meengreen
March 22nd, 2007, 13:04
Does this really belong in advanced fab??? Seems more like chit ie non-tech/off-topic...

:dunno:

Post police, watch out!!:piratefla

I'm sure these guys appreciate you butting your nose where it doesn't belong. It's nice to know that you are always watching over us.:smootch:

XJ_ranger
July 6th, 2007, 21:08
After seeing longfields crap and jacks product and all the workmanship that jack puts into every piece, its a no brainer.

Longfields are half the price for a reason. When I held them side by side with a ctm I could see that I'd rather pay for the best and that's ctm.

Oh and that 300m candy apple looking thing looks ghey. Clicking metal makes usually means something is wearing and fast too......
I just bought some candy apple red joints...

'cuse i like the color :D




So uhhhhh Ben....

What chassis are you going to use for your big axles?

Where are your bling pictures?

Mr.OverKill
July 6th, 2007, 21:52
I just bought some candy apple red joints...

'cuse i like the color :D




So uhhhhh Ben....

What chassis are you going to use for your big axles?

Where are your bling pictures?the BIG question is where is Ben????

i have his junk in my side area and its getting worked on little by little but i cant show it yet, but i would like to know where he is before i go much further.

cal
July 12th, 2007, 15:34
the BIG question is where is Ben????


I'd like to know where the boy is at too. He has my spare transmission and the one in my rigs starting to slip. I gotta rebuild my transfer case in the next month and wanted to swap out aw4's at the same time..