Whats up with Black Rockcrawlers?

[GI-John]

Now I've been Jeeping for a day or two, but I just don't understand.

What is the allure of having Black "rock-krawlers". Hell, phony beadlocks for that matter too...

It seems like anyone that wants to look like a hardcore wheeler has a set.....along with a brushguard....


Run what ya brung....


John

[Brad M.]

Now I've been Jeeping for a day or two, but I just don't understand.

What is the allure of having Black "rock-krawlers". Hell, phony beadlocks for that matter too...

It seems like anyone that wants to look like a hardcore wheeler has a set.....along with a brushguard....


Run what ya brung....


John

Cheap black steelies... $36 each. Custom polished bling... $100+ each. In the case of me and my wallet it was all about simple mathematics. Just my .02

[GSequoia]

I bought them because they were cheap...

Granted that was three years ago and I've JUST put one of my five new tires on one of them :D

[gregmondro]

Aluminum wheels crack and can get very damaged if you wheel on the rocks, steelies will just bend around the lip usually if you hit them HARD. You can always hammer that bent spot back down, can't say the same for a cracked aluminum wheel.

Plus cost is also something to consider. You can get a set of 15x8 Black Steelies for around $200 usually, even less if you buy used. Other wheels can go for $100+ and up.

[GSequoia]

Aluminum wheels do have a major upside - they're a lot lighter. If it wasn't for the shoestring budget I'd march out and buy a set of aluminum wheels rihgt now.

[shortxjdoug]

actually the fake beadlocks are awesome. i used to hate e'm but i bought a set that came with some tires i needed and they are good for one thing, they have protected the bead as well as the bead lip of the rim, i rub them on the rocks often and the fake rings have saved me many many times. from tearing up the rim to tire surface

[stewie]

i went for the crager soft 8's because of the price. the money i saved helped me get an Aussie for my 30.

[Ramsey]

i went with the cool kids and got the white wagon wheels :D the diy beadlocks do help make up for the gayness, but it looks good and was 110$ to my door

[Kittrell]

If I am willing to spend close to $3000 on my suspension, $800 for my wheels doesn't seem like to big a deal. It just meant that I got them later instead of RIGHT NOW. It's amazing the things you can afford when you save for a bit..................:dunno:

[wall04]

i went for the crager soft 8's because of the price.

You know it. (And they look cool too.:laugh3: )

[GI-John]

If money was the reason, why not use stock steelies, or for that matter, white wagon wheels?

Methinks it is to look cool to the unknowing.

Waiting for the "Chrome won't get you home" crowd to pipe in.


P.S. trailered rock queens....got it:gee:

[IntrepidXJ]

cheap and strong.

my trailer gets the white wagon wheels :D

[rocklandxjer]

cause there not wide enough

and black steelies dont really look all that cool.. the 100+ ones are meant to look cool

[IcedXJ]

why not just look around and try and find a used pair of better rims. I went on craigslist and picked me up a set og Mickey Thompson Classic IIs, those look real nice with my gray XJ.

[CartsXJ]

actually the fake beadlocks are awesome. i used to hate e'm but i bought a set that came with some tires i needed and they are good for one thing, they have protected the bead as well as the bead lip of the rim, i rub them on the rocks often and the fake rings have saved me many many times. from tearing up the rim to tire surface


Ding Ding Ding .........we have a winner Bob, tell him what he's won.


This is the real reason why I run them, and they are getting the winter AT tires put on after the month's end trail ride. Gonna build a set of DIY bead locks over the winter.

[CRASH]

My friend bought Rock Crawlers against my advice 2 years ago. After two summers of deep rocks, 3 of 4 are bent, two with bent centers. He just bought a set of nice aluminum wheels.

The myth of aluminum wheels cracking and failing cracks me up. We're not talking about 30 year old porous castings. Modern aluminum wheels are lighter, stronger and mroe durable than their steel counterparts. Yes, the initial cost is higher, but having to buy 2 or 3 sets of steelies to keep straight wheels on your rig pays for the alloys in about 6 years.

[BlueCuda]

I have CenterLine Tel-Stars on mine. Its unreal how much lighter a billet aluminum wheel is compared to a steel wheel. The only upside to the wieght of the steel wheels is that the wieght is in the right spot...the bottom.

[CartsXJ]

The myth of aluminum wheels cracking and failing cracks me up.

I've seen 3 factory 15x8 canyon TJ wheels crack and break beads. On the same trails as I run my street lock with no problems. But that migh have something to do with the tire he runs, 35x10.5 SSR's........I still don't understand that pizza cutter thing.

[johnlv6]

Cheap black steelies... $36 each. Custom polished bling... $100+ each. In the case of me and my wallet it was all about simple mathematics. Just my .02

X2. I REALLY like the looks of them..plus they're cheap as dirt. WTF am i going to spend $100+ per wheel when i like the look of a cheaper wheel more?

[IXNAYXJ]

X2. I REALLY like the looks of them..plus they're cheap as dirt. WTF am i going to spend $100+ per wheel when i like the look of a cheaper wheel more?That's where I'm coming from. I simply prefer the look of the cheap black wheels...and I can borrow GI-John's hammer to bend the lip back. :)

-----Matt-----

(Did you ever find your BFH?)

[Ivan]

For grins, I asked that same question to a friend of mine with a MJ and black steelies... His reponse was that he wants a rig in which the wheels don't cost more than the rig itself.......

[johnnyc]

Plus, how :mad: are you gonna be the first time you get some trail rash on your nice aluminum rims? That's why I went with the black cheapies.

[GSequoia]

If I had it my way (of course this would all be if I wasn't looking for beadlocks) I'd get the best of both worlds.

http://www.americanracing.com/dealerline/blackimages/mega/m3981.jpg

[IntrepidXJ]

If I had it my way (of course this would all be if I wasn't looking for beadlocks) I'd get the best of both worlds.

http://www.americanracing.com/dealerline/blackimages/mega/m3981.jpg


i hate the round circles. D's are where it's at :p

[OT]

Why can't I have crappy black steelies for my crappy white junk?
I have literally abused mine and they are completely bent to fu*k, but they still hold air and they still work great at .25mph.
Why can't I swap out a $50, two year old peice of mangled booger with a $50 replacement?
Maybe when I give a sh*t about appearances, I'll start buying Al.
Until then, You'll see my junk with beaten, bent, and rusted dubs.


Nice thread, John.

[Fryphax]

Hell, I run cheap chrome wagon wheels that I bought for a 12 pack and spent 3 bucks on paint.

[FitchVA]

i hate the round circles. D's are where it's at :p
round circles are the new hotness. d's are old and busted :D:anon: :eyes:

[IntrepidXJ]

round circles are the new hotness. d's are old and busted :D:anon: :eyes:

you mean, just like the rest of my rig?

:D

[Kittrell]

Plus, how :mad: are you gonna be the first time you get some trail rash on your nice aluminum rims? That's why I went with the black cheapies.

I wasn't ticked at all, noticed it, and was like, meh, thats what happens when you wheel. And they STILL look better then crawlers..............;)

[djblade311]

If I had it my way (of course this would all be if I wasn't looking for beadlocks) I'd get the best of both worlds.

http://www.americanracing.com/dealerline/blackimages/mega/m3981.jpg


I came really close to buying those then I checked the total price with the tires and said F that. I love how they look and HEY, you can cook eggs on them since they have teflon!

[Slacker87XJ]

Blingy chrome/aluminum crap on cars is teh ghey, IMHO. I hate it and can't wait to get rid of all of it on my junk. Mirrors, bumpers, grill, windshield trim, alloy wheels all have to go :puke:

The only exception of course is cars *made* of aluminum, they look pretty neat brushed out.

x2 on the strength as well. Even high pressure cast Al alloy is pretty brittle. And of course putting $1200 worth of forged wheels on an $1100 jeep would be retarded ... :looney:

-i

[OT]

I came really close to buying those then I checked the total price with the tires and said F that. I love how they look and HEY, you can cook eggs on them since they have teflon!
Be glad you didn't get them.
As an installer, we had to be more careful with those Teflon coated wheels, than with any other.
If we weren't mindful, there was even the chance of scratching off that micro-thin coating, just taking them out of the box.
I don't even want to think of what a rock or tree branch would do.

[Menzenski]

I run the best of both worlds: cheap aluminum wheels:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/platinumkow/Trimmed%20Fenders/271_7109.jpg

[LBEXJ]

I spent $60 each on chrome soft 8's. I did it because that is what I like ... and what I wanted to put on my Jeep.

It's my Jeep, my money, and my preference. I got over worrying about what others think a long time ago. I have found I'm much more satisfied that way.

Les

[johnlv6]

Mine were under $200 for all 4 shipped to my door...you can't beat that (IMO).

[OT]

I spent $60 each on chrome soft 8's. I did it because that is what I like ... and what I wanted to put on my Jeep.

It's my Jeep, my money, and my preference. I got over worrying about what others think a long time ago. I have found I'm much more satisfied that way.

Les
Who were you trying to impress a long time ago, Moses?

[LBEXJ]

Who were you trying to impress a long time ago, Moses?
I turn 109 this year ... Moses was a long time before that.

It was so long ago though, I cannot remember her name. :laugh3: :tear:

Les

[Gil BullyKatz]

Blingy chrome/aluminum crap on cars is teh ghey, IMHO. I hate it and can't wait to get rid of all of it on my junk. Mirrors, bumpers, grill, windshield trim, alloy wheels all have to go :puke:

The only exception of course is cars *made* of aluminum, they look pretty neat brushed out.

x2 on the strength as well. Even high pressure cast Al alloy is pretty brittle. And of course putting $1200 worth of forged wheels on an $1100 jeep would be retarded ... :looney:

-i

I run Mickey Thompson hot forged "Challenger" Aluminum rims...

I have the same rims in 2 different widths and bolt patterns...

I like the way they look...

I love the way they've held up for me...

I obviously don't give a fawk what my rig looks like to anyone else...

and unless you're running 20" spinners...

it shouldn't make any difference around these parts.

[GSequoia]

Be glad you didn't get them.
As an installer, we had to be more careful with those Teflon coated wheels, than with any other.
If we weren't mindful, there was even the chance of scratching off that micro-thin coating, just taking them out of the box.
I don't even want to think of what a rock or tree branch would do.

I don't much care for the teflon stuff, stuipd gimick that means nothing...

I wouldn't run those in the rocks anyway, too pretty!

One of these days I will need to get aluminum wheels though. 35's on steel rims are much heavier than 31's on steel rims! Good thing I don't dig on roof top tire placement!

[Dirk Pitt]

pays for the alloys in about 6 years.

6 year payback period...

I wish you were signing my equipment capital expenditures requests.

[Blkxjkrawler]

I bought them becuase everything else on my rig is black. Plus I could bash them and not worry about it. best case touch up with spray paint every now and then, worst case spend 40 dollars and get a new one. I just wish they made them in 24's with black spinners on them....

[OT]

Actually, Blkxjkrawler, I think GI John was talking about you.

[Blkxjkrawler]

Yes, I am an unintentional trendsetter, but they were out of flourescent magenta when I was buying. Forget body armor, suspension, gears, lockers and all that other crap, all you really neeed to be hardcore is black steel wheels. Right?

[GI-John]

Actually, Blkxjkrawler, I think GI John was talking about you.

It actually started with a fellow soldier that came up to me a few days after he bought a new TJ.

He wanted to go with a 6" longarm and 35's....no wheeling experience whatsoever.

I finally talked him into reality and he settled on a BB, 31's, and......drum roll please...Black rock crawlers.

Paid 1200.00 for it too, and thought he got a great deal.

Tard.

[OT]

Tard.
x2.

[woody]

Plus, how :mad: are you gonna be the first time you get some trail rash on your nice aluminum rims? That's why I went with the black cheapies.


I figure that the aluminum wheels will hold up to more abuse than the cheap steelies. I have taken two cheap steelies to the dump for being hammered out of round. Plus they like to shed the tire bead too easy for my liking. FWIW I only have $265 into five AR alloys... not that much more than steel.

Rock rash? Bah... if one is worried about rock rash on their Jeep, they need to stick to 4wheeling the speed-bumps at their local high school.

I do use cheap steel wagon wheels (painted a wicked shade of dark charcoal metallic and flying the blingin chrome hub covers) with my street tires, but for off-highway use, gotta be alloys for me.

YMMV

Quote from Gil that I'll X2: "I obviously don't give a fawk what my rig looks like to anyone else..."

[red91]

i went with the cool kids and got the white wagon wheels :D the diy beadlocks do help make up for the gayness, but it looks good and was 110$ to my door

You went with the white wheels? Dude your racist...keeping the black wheels down...Power to the black wheels!

I smell a revalution coming...

[Ramsey]

i love whitey

[GSequoia]

Here's some black Rockcrawlers for you John...

http://events.sequoia4x4.com/d/12986-3/IMG_0014.jpg

http://events.sequoia4x4.com/d/13011-2/IMG_0019.jpg

[Chero-King]

http://events.sequoia4x4.com/d/13011-2/IMG_0019.jpg


Up-travel is definitely over-rated ;)

[Ramsey]

up travel is for posers

[OT]

Here's some black Rockcrawlers for you John...

http://events.sequoia4x4.com/d/12986-3/IMG_0014.jpg

http://events.sequoia4x4.com/d/13011-2/IMG_0019.jpg
Good thing you carry spares.:rolleyes:

[GSequoia]

Good thing you carry spares.:rolleyes:

Who needs spares?

I decided that from this point forward I'm only going to wheel at malls.

It's a LOT cheaper!

[BOB]

I could bash them and not worry about it. best case touch up with spray paint every now and then, worst case spend 40 dollars and get a new one....

X2

...BOB

[BOB]

here is a pic of my black A/R's
IMO, chrome would NOT look good on this rig.

...BOB

http://image57.webshots.com/657/4/4/11/2568404110057312559ChGAtx_ph.jpg

[red91]

i love whitey

"whitey" is Jewish...

[OT]

Who needs spares?

I decided that from this point forward I'm only going to wheel at malls.

It's a LOT cheaper!
I was referring to all of the wheels on your roof.:dunce:

[GSequoia]

I was referring to all of the wheels on your roof.:dunce:

Oh.

I was thinkinig you were talking about spicer shafts with 35's! Somebody wants those wheels so I'm holding them for him... That was the easiest place to put 'em.

[98XJ-ID]

im ridin spinners yo

[Ramsey]

"whitey" is Jewish...
:doh:

[DaffyXJ]

im ridin spinners yo

Now your talkin'. Spinners and a set of under glow neon lights.
That's Hot!

[OT]

Rock-Spinnerz.

Look for the new line in early '07!
:rolleyes:

[dallas xjs]

Now your talkin'. Spinners and a set of under glow neon lights.
That's Hot!any thing like this bling bling???
http://i10.tinypic.com/2i97ddj.jpg

[Fryphax]

3 Busch lights a piece, hard tto beat

http://subaruwagon.com/albums/album66/IMG_0952.sized.jpg