Utah Safety inspections

[bluebullet6]

I removed and discarded my rear sway bar a while back, with very little noticeable change in handling. I was talking to some guy at discount tire that said it would no longer pass safety inspections without the rear sway bar. Can anybody confirm this?

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I removed and discarded my rear sway bar a while back, with very little noticeable change in handling. I was talking to some guy at discount tire that said it would no longer pass safety inspections without the rear sway bar. Can anybody confirm this?


that kinda stuff makes me understand why i can put up with the cold and snow of wyoming. no safety inspection, no emission inspection, no lift laws, no gotta have so much of your tires covered laws. and so on.

[djblade311]

that doesnt sound right because not all XJs had rear sway bars...would that cause mine to fail safety inspection...I dont think so.

I wouldnt worry about it

[Brad M.]

not all XJs had rear sway bars

I wouldnt worry about it

X2, he's smokin something. Took mine off 7 yrs ago and have never had an issue with safety inspections

[Geepfreak]

K-guys, here's the deal, KEEP THY MOUTH SHUT, when it comes to things like this, you telling them you took it off, or "whatever else you took off/put on" is what kills you.

Also, I doubt there has been an inspector in the state of Ut ever even look for something like that..

Here's one for ya, A guy I knew, put full width axles(60R/44F) on his XJ, with the backspacing on his wheels, You could really not tell they were full width.
Goes in for inspection, the inspector say's what a good looking XJ he has, he says thanks, just got done doing the full width conversion blah blah He now is OHV stickered..

Don't volunteer information..

[luv2offroad]

And don't take it to the One Stop Emissions/Inspection places. They are too much by the book. I tell all my friends to go to Big-O on 4500 S. 900 E. Mickey there will hook you up with your inspection. He hasn't failed me yet!! He doesn't do emissions though, so then just hit Jiffy Lube for the emissions part.

[Geepfreak]

so then just hit Jiffy Lube for the emissions part.

:doh:
:twak:

[bluebullet6]

thanks guys. i'll keep my mouth shut next time saftey comes around. i really didnt think they'd check something like that, but im sure not going to go in there telling him the things i've done to the ol jeep.

[soarhead25]

I removed and discarded my rear sway bar a while back, with very little noticeable change in handling. I was talking to some guy at discount tire that said it would no longer pass safety inspections without the rear sway bar. Can anybody confirm this?

Yes, the man at discount tire is correct. I just checked my 1997 Utah safety manual and it did not have a paragraph for sway bars. Which means in 97 you would have passed.

However, checking the latest & greatest here:

http://www.safetyinspections.utah.gov/manuals/index.html

(Passenger/Light Truck)

Does in fact, have an added paragraph concerning bent, broken, and missing sway bars.

Well, actually it states "disconnected". One would have to be a pretty sharp cookie to know that something was "missing". Take it somewhere where they are not familiar with jeeps.

Amazingly enough, if someone were to break out the rule book, many of our jeeps would not pass. i.e., 2"lift max for wheelbases <100", 4" max lift for >100" W.B., springover conversions, etc.
Read the book. Know the rules.
Save it to your pc- it's an Adobe.

[Geepfreak]

Amazingly enough, if someone were to break out the rule book, many of our jeeps would not pass. i.e., 2"lift max for wheelbases <100", 4" max lift for >100" W.B., springover conversions, etc.
Read the book. Know the rules.
Save it to your pc- it's an Adobe.


It's based on GVW not wheelbase

a. REJECT when:
1) Frame height is greater than 24 inches on a vehicle with a
GVWR less than 4,500 lbs.
2) Frame height is greater than 26 inches on a vehicle with a
GVWR of 4,500 lbs. and less than 7,500 lbs.
3) Frame height is greater than 28 inches on a vehicle with a
GVWR of 7,500 lbs. or more.
*NOTE: Vehicle must be on a flat surface and unladen for all measurements. Frame
height measurement is from the ground to the bottom of the frame and
should be taken on the left side of the vehicle under the driver’s seat. If the
door certification plate has been removed, the vehicle shall be considered to
be 4,500 lbs.
3. Check the body lift above the frame. (Title 41-6a-1631 UCA)

[TRNDRVR]

Just go down and see Jesus on 32nd and Main. Slip him a fifty and he'll pass anything.

HTH.

Dan.

[Geepfreak]

Just go down and see Jesus on 32nd and Main.


Is that pronounced HEYZUS, or JESUS?

:D

[TRNDRVR]

Is that pronounced HEYZUS, or JESUS?

:DYeah. His brother's name is Jorge. :D

[soarhead25]

Geepfreaks right-
It is now based on GVW, and not wheelbase. I was reading that out of my old 97 manual, but citing the web page for the sway bar. I really am a dunce. But I edited my post though-

[Geepfreak]

Geepfreaks right


Correct me IF i'm wrong, but I don't think I've been not right for quite sometime..
:D



discuss...

[XJSpencer]

My brother does my inspections. He makes me fix all the obvious stuff (after he passes it) so He doesn't lose his license to perform Inspections. When I bought the XJ. He had me fix the windshield washers, exhaust, flares, mudflaps, e-brake and ....something else can't remember.

Anyway, the swaybar thing goes for the front. Swaybar disconnects rock!

When I see a Cop, they look like they're checking me out. They always leave me alone though. There isn't an obvous reason to pull me over.

[JEEPZZ]

Correct me IF i'm wrong, but I don't think I've been not right for quite sometime..
:D



discuss...
I'm always right. I thought I was wrong once... but I was mistaken. :anon:

[Geepfreak]

I'm always right. I thought I was wrong once... but I was mistaken. :anon:

:kissyou:

How's the larger family doing Todd?

[Brad M.]

Yes, the man at discount tire is correct. I just checked my 1997 Utah safety manual and it did not have a paragraph for sway bars. Which means in 97 you would have passed.

However, checking the latest & greatest here:

http://www.safetyinspections.utah.gov/manuals/index.html

(Passenger/Light Truck)

Does in fact, have an added paragraph concerning bent, broken, and missing sway bars.

Well, actually it states "disconnected". One would have to be a pretty sharp cookie to know that something was "missing". Take it somewhere where they are not familiar with jeeps.

Amazingly enough, if someone were to break out the rule book, many of our jeeps would not pass. i.e., 2"lift max for wheelbases <100", 4" max lift for >100" W.B., springover conversions, etc.
Read the book. Know the rules.
Save it to your pc- it's an Adobe.

So many rules... so little time. What's the saying? Not what you know but who? :D :D

[Geepfreak]

What's the saying? Not what you know but who? :D :D

X ONE billion! :D

[dugfab]

Why would any of you guys go to an inspection station that is that picky in the first place ? I live in Roy and there are plenty around here that will pass just about anything.

[JEEPZZ]

:kissyou:

How's the larger family doing Todd?
Going great. I hope to have the little guy out on the trails with us next year.
Why would any of you guys go to an inspection station that is that picky in the first place ? I live in Roy and there are plenty around here that will pass just about anything.
I used to be an inspector at a high volume safety shop. You wouldn't believe how much the higher volume shops are watched with an eagle eye by the highway patrol's safety division. They would always send in numerous 'under cover vehicles' trying to bust you passing a failing car. Stupid little stuff too.
I've talked with other inspectors from low volume shops and they said that they've never heard of under cover vehicles and would only see a audit done at the most of once a year rather than monthly.

So if your looking to get an inspection without getting picked apart, go to an out of the way low volume shop where vehicle inspections are a small percentage of there total business not a place where that's all they do is Safety & I/M.
Dugfab's got the right idea. :D

[TRNDRVR]

Going great. I hope to have the little guy out on the trails with us next year.Next year?

Don't let Jared and Holly hear this.

I remember wheeling Pritchett with Logan when he was 3 weeks old.

Did just fine. :rattle:

[DrMoab]

Next year?

Don't let Jared and Holly hear this.

I remember wheeling Pritchett with Logan when he was 3 weeks old.

Did just fine. :rattle:
X2 I had Kirsten out at 3 Mo. Tj would have been right there too if he hadn't been sick when he was born.

As far as inspections go.

The laws totally changed a few years ago. There are a few items that HAVE to work. Windshild needs to be in good shape, tires need to be under the fenders, mud flaps, then of course the obvious....brakes,tires,all the lights need to work...things like that.

The law used to read that the suspension had to consist of factory design. They threw that out the window. Now its totally based on GVW.

[JEEPZZ]

Next year?

Don't let Jared and Holly hear this.

I remember wheeling Pritchett with Logan when he was 3 weeks old.

Did just fine. :rattle:
We're gonna wait until next spring to take Jr out on the trails (and out on the boat). We did have him out on Moab's trails earlier this year while Julie was 6 months pregnant, deos that count? :D
We did Pritchett last year. It was fun, nerve wracking as hell but fun. :wow:
X2 I had Kirsten out at 3 Mo. Tj would have been right there too if he hadn't been sick when he was born.

As far as inspections go.

The laws totally changed a few years ago. There are a few items that HAVE to work. Windshild needs to be in good shape, tires need to be under the fenders, mud flaps, then of course the obvious....brakes,tires,all the lights need to work...things like that.

The law used to read that the suspension had to consist of factory design. They threw that out the window. Now its totally based on GVW.
Several years back I got pulled over by UHP. He was going the opposite way on the freeway, flipped on his lights and came after me. After giving him my reg, insurance & license I asked him why he pulled me over. He said that my mudflaps were illegal. I called BS and we ended up outside the Jeep on the side of the freeway with a tape measure. I ended up being ticketed for having mupflaps that were 1 inch too short!!!

Now let me put this in perspective for you, he said he pulled me over for no other reason than my mudflaps being too short. I was driving at 60mph going the opposite direction of him & he was going approx the same speed 6 lanes and a large grassy median apart from each other. So he must have some sort of eagle eyes to spot my 1 inch too short mud flaps in his rear view mirror 6lanes over at 120mph separation speed.
It pisses me off just bring this BS up again!!!!

From there it's a long story but I ended up lowering my mudflaps an inch. These are the same mudflap (on my red Jeep) that all you guys give me crap about being so small and "cute". :D (but they're legal)

[DrMoab]

Several years back I got pulled over by UHP. He was going the opposite way on the freeway, flipped on his lights and came after me. After giving him my reg, insurance & license I asked him why he pulled me over. He said that my mudflaps were illegal. I called BS and we ended up outside the Jeep on the side of the freeway with a tape measure. I ended up being ticketed for having mupflaps that were 1 inch too short!!!
Yeah well...I got pulled over with my jeep on the TRAILER!!!! This year for on our way to Moab for the spring ride.

Problem is. Cops and inspection stations both don't always know the real deal. They interpret the law the way they feel it should be.

It isn't right.

[JEEPZZ]

Yeah well...I got pulled over with my jeep on the TRAILER!!!! This year for on our way to Moab for the spring ride.

Problem is. Cops and inspection stations both don't always know the real deal. They interpret the law the way they feel it should be.

It isn't right.
They're out the save the world one mudflap at a time.

(should we tell them that 99% of rocks that fly off of tires come out where the tire leaves the road, less than 1 inch off the ground) :speepin:

[DeadEyeJ]

Just a bit of advice here...

1- Please don't mention "off roader friendly" inspection shops by name in a public place. That is simply asking for somebody to give an anonymous tip and earn them an undercover vehicle test. Fines are very very large for these guys if they get caught letting some stuff squeak by unnoticed. They are doing us a favor, let's give them the same courtesy.

2- As far as infants on the trail go, they're fine. They are actually a buttload safer than the other passengers in the vehicle. They are entirely below seat height which gives them protection from being crushed in a rollover. They are in a secure 3-5 point harness. They are surrounded by a sturdy, padded, plastic shell known as a carseat. My kids have always been happier on the trail than off when they were very young. When you stopped, they'd fuss. When you'd be driving they'd sleep.

Along the lines of the need for mudflaps - In order for a tire to pick up and toss a rock, it has to be able to pinch it between the tread blocks. This means that a tire with a fine tread pattern (like your average all season car tire) will pick up pea sized rocks, while a mud terrain type will pick up large rocks only. While having a 1" rock hit your windshield would definately suck, they almost don't exist on the roadway. Meanwhile, pea sized rocks are everywhere in abundance. Just kind of gripes me that vehicles sporting new super swampers tend to get the attention of police, while vehicles with el-cheapo all season tires don't.

Jared:patriot: