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ManBearPig
December 14th, 2008, 20:00
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28220165



Video here:

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&from=MSNHP

t_aldrich
December 14th, 2008, 20:05
lol saw that on the news awsome

Crusher16
December 14th, 2008, 20:10
No video? Poooooooooooooooooo

ManBearPig
December 14th, 2008, 20:11
Theres a video somewhere, I saw it on the news.

Edit: Found it

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&from=MSNHP

Crusher16
December 14th, 2008, 20:17
Ah yyess. Awesome.

Darky
December 14th, 2008, 20:36
Here, the anchor said how in the Iraqi culture, throwing a shoe at someone is a sign of contempt...:D

ECKSJAY
December 14th, 2008, 20:38
Go Neo! :roflmao:

XJEEPER
December 14th, 2008, 21:07
I thought only girls throw shoes.......nice reflexes by W.:scared:
What does assault on a President net you in Iraq?

NW-ZJ-SCOTT
December 14th, 2008, 21:15
What does assault on a President net you in Iraq?
He's now going to be king:viking:

tharlanjr
December 14th, 2008, 21:16
hopefully death penalty...



jk?

ECKSJAY
December 14th, 2008, 22:03
He's now going to be king:viking:

Rodney?

Boatwrench
December 14th, 2008, 22:33
What does assault on a President net you in Iraq?


73 Virgins. :wave1:

8Mud
December 14th, 2008, 23:11
Wouldn't it be a hoot if all the virgins turned out to be Nuns.:looser:

tharlanjr
December 14th, 2008, 23:21
the virgins are men...

Reichy
December 14th, 2008, 23:47
damn, he missed....

Darky
December 15th, 2008, 08:33
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/darkXJ/1205622626796.jpg

besthaticouldo
December 15th, 2008, 08:53
damn, he missed....

lol my thoughts exactly. hahahahaha :doh:

tharlanjr
December 15th, 2008, 09:06
ahhh, all we need is a post next to this with a guy throwing a shoe at obama, lets see how fast it will get locked...

arent some of these post double standards for wishing harm upon the president, or do those only apply to the great one?

IslanderOffRoad
December 15th, 2008, 09:13
That guy won a free trip to Guantanamo.

tharlanjr
December 15th, 2008, 09:18
lol, now thats funny

GSequoia
December 15th, 2008, 11:05
ahhh, all we need is a post next to this with a guy throwing a shoe at obama, lets see how fast it will get locked...

arent some of these post double standards for wishing harm upon the president, or do those only apply to the great one?

Get off your whiney tower.


There was no harm done, even if they hit the worst that would have happened is a bit of a cut, maybe a black eye. This thread will remain and would remain if it had been Obama instead of Bush.

Darky
December 15th, 2008, 11:51
Actually, had he been hit by the open end of the shoe, he could've gotten a nasty eye fungus...;)

tharlanjr
December 15th, 2008, 12:17
lol, I was being sarcastic, I could care less if its open or not. I just thought it was funny people can wish harm upon bush but not obama, different lvls of harm are ok, lol

I hope Obama get hit with a wildflower, wtf...

:sure:

Get off your whiney tower.


There was no harm done, even if they hit the worst that would have happened is a bit of a cut, maybe a black eye. This thread will remain and would remain if it had been Obama instead of Bush.

Darky
December 15th, 2008, 12:22
I hope Obama get hit with a wildflower, wtf...

:sure:
Hey some of those have thorns...

tharlanjr
December 15th, 2008, 12:27
and pollen, maybe he's alergic to it...

:rolleyes:


oh g, please dont ban me...

Glenn B
December 15th, 2008, 19:32
Hush now... George and His Chosen One are butt buddies. Never upset the Chosen One or George Sequoia. :dunce:

George will take a bullet for his Chosen One.

lol, I was being sarcastic, I could care less if its open or not. I just thought it was funny people can wish harm upon bush but not obama, different lvls of harm are ok, lol

I hope Obama get hit with a wildflower, wtf...

:sure:

bjoehandley
December 15th, 2008, 20:48
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/bjoehandley/Funny%20Stuff/bushshoe.jpg

bjoehandley
December 15th, 2008, 20:50
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/darkXJ/1205622626796.jpg

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

So wrong yet so hysterical:thumbup:

SBrad001
December 16th, 2008, 08:39
ahhh, all we need is a post next to this with a guy throwing a shoe at obama, lets see how fast it will get locked...

arent some of these post double standards for wishing harm upon the president, or do those only apply to the great one?

lol, I was being sarcastic, I could care less if its open or not. I just thought it was funny people can wish harm upon bush but not obama, different lvls of harm are ok, lol

I hope Obama get hit with a wildflower, wtf...

:sure:


Quit your fawking whining. Baby :rattle:

tharlanjr
December 16th, 2008, 13:55
hahaha, can you not read what you quoted?

I said I was being "fawking" sarcastic, lol

See, looks what happens when the great one is mentioned, no more jokes allowed, ha

BruceB83
December 16th, 2008, 14:05
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/bjoehandley/Funny%20Stuff/bushshoe.jpg

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0198.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-aim-smileys.php)

SBrad001
December 16th, 2008, 15:43
hahaha, can you not read what you quoted?

I said I was being "fawking" sarcastic, lol

See, looks what happens when the great one is mentioned, no more jokes allowed, ha

Yeah I read what you wrote. It's not hard to see that you don't have anything original to say except to hide behind more dittohead crap that Limpoop spews out his what passes for his a**, er mouth. You're just another clone that is following someone else's lead.

Go ahead and cry about how the 'Obama's' supporters rally around the 'chosen one', I'm sure that they do. But that has nothing to do with me, I didn't vote for the man.

Try not to whine so much in the future.

Darky
December 16th, 2008, 19:10
Yeah I read what you wrote. It's not hard to see that you don't have anything original to say except to hide behind more dittohead crap that Limpoop spews out his what passes for his a**, er mouth. You're just another clone that is following someone else's lead.

Go ahead and cry about how the 'Obama's' supporters rally around the 'chosen one', I'm sure that they do. But that has nothing to do with me, I didn't vote for the man.

Try not to whine so much in the future.
Wow Brad, you're a bit of a <censored word> when it comes to politics...;) Not to mention your comment about not being original sounds kinda recycled anyways, hear that from a lot of the anti-Bush or pro Obama crowd...

I think the point being made is, if people wish harm to Obama, they're in trouble and the thread gets axed. Wish that the shoe had hit Bush, eh, who cares, right? Yeah, the difference is some were wishing for Obama's death, and that's retarded, but wishing injury on Bush is only slightly less retarded.

SBrad001
December 16th, 2008, 19:53
Wow Brad, you're a bit of a <censored word> when it comes to politics...;) Not to mention your comment about not being original sounds kinda recycled anyways, hear that from a lot of the anti-Bush or pro Obama crowd...

I think the point being made is, if people wish harm to Obama, they're in trouble and the thread gets axed. Wish that the shoe had hit Bush, eh, who cares, right? Yeah, the difference is some were wishing for Obama's death, and that's retarded, but wishing injury on Bush is only slightly less retarded.

It's a BIG difference between wishing someone getting KILLED vs someone getting smacked up side the head with a shoe. One involves living impairment, the other involves a bruise. And you're calling one 'slightly less' retard? You are joking right?

And yes, I definitely can be a snarky ass when it comes to politics. But then again when someone wants to have an intelligent discussion about the pros or cons of the current President's policies vs the incoming President Elect's policies, I will jump right in.

But this blanket whining about how we can't knock Obama is ludicrous. And I'm not defending Obama in the least. I'm just showing my disappointment and disdain for petty comments.

Personally, I'm admire how well Bush (the Slow Of Mind But Quick To Duck) handled himself in this instance. I wish he had handled himself this well during the previous 7+ years.



**and just for the record, would have been happy with either McCain or Obama winning the election since neither one of them is Bush.

Darky
December 16th, 2008, 19:58
You ever been hit by a flying wingtip? That HURTS!! :D

SBrad001
December 16th, 2008, 20:05
You ever been hit by a flying wingtip? That HURTS!! :D

Actually. . . a brick, bottle of water, numerous shoes, and a bar of soap. It's not a good idea to piss off the significant other. . . .

ECKSJAY
December 16th, 2008, 20:05
You ever been hit by a flying wingtip? That HURTS!! :D

No shit, at least it wasn't one of OJ's gigantic Bruno Magli shoes. The boss man might not have been able to dodge that one. :D

ECKSJAY
December 16th, 2008, 20:05
Actually. . . a brick, bottle of water, numerous shoes, and a bar of soap. It's not a good idea to piss off the significant other. . . .

That explains a LOT. :wave1:

SBrad001
December 16th, 2008, 20:06
That explains a LOT. :wave1:

What? You think I only irritate you guys? I save the best for the wife.

Darky
December 16th, 2008, 20:15
Actually. . . a brick, bottle of water, numerous shoes, and a bar of soap. It's not a good idea to piss off the significant other. . . .
I'm so sorry...I, I didn't mean to recall painful memories...



:D

redneckboarder
December 16th, 2008, 20:19
somethin happeded to the guy he now has a broken arm and stuff

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,467504,00.html

ECKSJAY
December 16th, 2008, 20:47
somethin happeded to the guy he now has a broken arm and stuff

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,467504,00.html

He fell. That is all.

redneckboarder
December 16th, 2008, 20:48
if you hear or say otherwise black helicopters will happen *guy in black suit and sunglasses*

SBrad001
December 16th, 2008, 20:55
I'm so sorry...I, I didn't mean to recall painful memories...



:D

My wife has a saying and it goes like this, "what do you tell Brady when he has two black and blue shins?. . . Nothing! I already told him twice!"















and it's so true. . . .

bjoehandley
December 16th, 2008, 22:02
hahahahaha, never seen it in that perspective:gee:

rag
December 16th, 2008, 23:09
I'm undecided on the matter. but these images are just for the laughs, nothing more :spin1:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/ireameri/shoe%20bush/1229382255495.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/ireameri/shoe%20bush/1229382329484.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/ireameri/shoe%20bush/1229382460961.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/ireameri/shoe%20bush/1229383034758.jpg

tharlanjr
December 17th, 2008, 00:49
actually I dont listen to limpoos, Im more of a Sean Hannity fan...

I'm a clone because I'm a republican, and I think different than you, :thumbdn:

You shouldnt whine about someone whom is being sarcastic (with a hint of truth) its kinda hypocritical.

:tears:

I think its funny the guy ended getting hurt, if he tried that on Sadam he's be dead. He should be thankfull for that.

Yeah I read what you wrote. It's not hard to see that you don't have anything original to say except to hide behind more dittohead crap that Limpoop spews out his what passes for his a**, er mouth. You're just another clone that is following someone else's lead.

Go ahead and cry about how the 'Obama's' supporters rally around the 'chosen one', I'm sure that they do. But that has nothing to do with me, I didn't vote for the man.

Try not to whine so much in the future.

tharlanjr
December 17th, 2008, 00:50
Now thats funny right there...




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/ireameri/shoe%20bush/1229382460961.gif

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 06:02
actually I dont listen to limpoos, Im more of a Sean Hannity fan...

I'm a clone because I'm a republican, and I think different than you, :thumbdn:

You shouldnt whine about someone whom is being sarcastic (with a hint of truth) its kinda hypocritical.

:tears:

I think its funny the guy ended getting hurt, if he tried that on Sadam he's be dead. He should be thankfull for that.

Man you're thick. It has nothing to do with you being a Republican.

Do you really think that there's a hint of truth about Obama's neophytes rising up to defend regardless of the accusation or the validity of such statements IN this forum and club?! If that's the case, you're much thicker than I've anticipated. I think that the people that get irritated and raise a shit storm when you and others make stupid statements or call for Obama to be assassinated are simply much less extremist than you or maybe they practice more critical thinking. But that's what you get when you're just a mouth piece for Mr. Hannity, O'Rielly, Limbaugh. . . . I don't see these political issues as black and white. I don't believe that many of us do see these political issues as black and white. Unless, it's the 2nd Amendment, but that's another thread.

Like I said before, I voted for the person whom I thought would do the best job this time around, and that happened to not be Obama. SO accusing me of being an Obama supporter is kind of pointless.

Assassination, racist jokes are offensive and can be considered illegal activities under certain legal lens. They also put our club in a bad light when looked upon by an outsider. And frankly, anyone that would want to join our club because of said subject matter, I wouldn't want joining our club. I would take issue if a fellow club member began seriously talking about how Bush needs to be murdered (sure impeach him, charge him with what ever but do it legal and be sure that the charges are real and not imagined). But that's not the case around here.

Darky
December 17th, 2008, 07:24
Man you're thick. It has nothing to do with you being a Republican.

Do you really think that there's a hint of truth about Obama's neophytes rising up to defend regardless of the accusation or the validity of such statements IN this forum and club?! If that's the case, you're much thicker than I've anticipated. I think that the people that get irritated and raise a shit storm when you and others make stupid statements or call for Obama to be assassinated are simply much less extremist than you or maybe they practice more critical thinking. But that's what you get when you're just a mouth piece for Mr. Hannity, O'Rielly, Limbaugh. . . . I don't see these political issues as black and white. I don't believe that many of us do see these political issues as black and white. Unless, it's the 2nd Amendment, but that's another thread.

Like I said before, I voted for the person whom I thought would do the best job this time around, and that happened to not be Obama. SO accusing me of being an Obama supporter is kind of pointless.

Assassination, racist jokes are offensive and can be considered illegal activities under certain legal lens. They also put our club in a bad light when looked upon by an outsider. And frankly, anyone that would want to join our club because of said subject matter, I wouldn't want joining our club. I would take issue if a fellow club member began seriously talking about how Bush needs to be murdered (sure impeach him, charge him with what ever but do it legal and be sure that the charges are real and not imagined). But that's not the case around here.
I don't listen to/watch any of the above mentioned people, but I gotta say, my first thought when people first said, "Too bad it didn't hit him" was, wait, they don't anyone making threats/wishing harm upon Obama, yet they can wish for Bush to get pegged with a shoe to the face? Not everyone was talking about Obama dying, some just wanted him hurt. I think that's stupid. I also think it's stupid to wish for a flying shoe to hit the current president. I don't think anyone here is arguing for being allowed to talk about assassinations or anything. Just looking for some parity. If it's wrong to hope for one to be hurt, why not both? If its only wrong to hope for death but ok to hope for injury, where do we draw the line? I'm not even saying the mods should step in, it just seems a bit off that someone says how it's a bit wrong to wish harm on someone just cuz you don't like em, and rather than the chorus of agreement with Obama, you're saying to quit whining :dunno:

Bent
December 17th, 2008, 07:47
Not everyone was talking about Obama dying, some just wanted him hurt. I think that's stupid.

I couldn't agree more.
;)

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 08:02
I don't listen to/watch any of the above mentioned people, but I gotta say, my first thought when people first said, "Too bad it didn't hit him" was, wait, they don't anyone making threats/wishing harm upon Obama, yet they can wish for Bush to get pegged with a shoe to the face? Not everyone was talking about Obama dying, some just wanted him hurt. I think that's stupid. I also think it's stupid to wish for a flying shoe to hit the current president. I don't think anyone here is arguing for being allowed to talk about assassinations or anything. Just looking for some parity. If it's wrong to hope for one to be hurt, why not both? If its only wrong to hope for death but ok to hope for injury, where do we draw the line? I'm not even saying the mods should step in, it just seems a bit off that someone says how it's a bit wrong to wish harm on someone just cuz you don't like em, and rather than the chorus of agreement with Obama, you're saying to quit whining :dunno:

I will totally grant you that. I think it would be hysterical if Obama were to have a 'Ford' moment when he gets sworn into the Presidency.

Plus, I don't believe I've ever accused you of being just another follower. Same thing with 'Bent'. You guys do a great job of looking through your convictions and justifying them. It's the poor twits that grab onto the talking points of the 'political pundits' mentioned above and wave them around like those talking points are gospel that I take issue with.

Plus, that previous thread wasn't just closed because people were calling for harm to come to Obama, but also there were some racist crap being posted up in there. It wasn't just the jokes about Obama getting hurt . . .

TRNDRVR
December 17th, 2008, 08:13
Im more of a Sean Hannity fan...
So, are you a hate monger too?

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 08:18
So, are you a hate monger too?

:D

nick86
December 17th, 2008, 08:23
Plus, that previous thread wasn't just closed because people were calling for harm to come to Obama, but also there were some racist crap being posted up in there. It wasn't just the jokes about Obama getting hurt . . .So if this thread turns racist it will get deleted? How are you going to justify hoping the current prez harm staying open-VS- deleting a thread that mentions harm to next prez. G-DOG, if your going to censor? At least be fair about it.

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 08:42
So if this thread turns racist it will get deleted? How are you going to justify hoping the current prez harm staying open-VS- deleting a thread that mentions harm to next prez. G-DOG, if your going to censor? At least be fair about it.

Go cry me a river about the unfairness of all. Life is unfair, this forum is unfair, the moderators are unfair and I'm hypocrite. Here's a cookie. Hope it makes you feel better.

karstic
December 17th, 2008, 08:43
Back to our regularly scheduled topic....

GW shows some pretty good reflexes.

Kinda makes you wonder how many shoes Laura has chucked at him?

nick86
December 17th, 2008, 08:43
Go cry me a river about the unfairness of all. Life is unfair, this forum is unfair, the moderators are unfair and I'm hypocrite. Here's a cookie. Hope it makes you feel better.Only if:wave: it's chocolate chip?

DrMoab
December 17th, 2008, 08:55
Who throws a shoe? Honestly? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D5oKEVqQJg)

Can't believe no one has posted this yet.

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 08:58
Only if:wave: it's chocolate chip?

Funny! I actually baked a bunch of chocolate chip cookies last night. :D

Thanks for having a sense of humor! :)

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 08:59
Back to our regularly scheduled topic....

GW shows some pretty good reflexes.

Kinda makes you wonder how many shoes Laura has chucked at him?

Dude! Hell yeah! I, for one, was impressed with those reflexes!

tharlanjr
December 17th, 2008, 09:40
I'm sure Obama supporters rise up to defend him, but I didnt accuse you of doing that.

The whoile thing started when I jokingly make a sarcastic comment on how if the same comments were made about Obama, the thread would get locked.

I never called for Obama to get assasinated and besides the wildflower I never called for him to be hurt either. I personally wouldnt wish harm upon any person, unless they were a rapist, child mollester, murder and the like.

I hope Obama is able to live up to the high standards he has set for himself, if it means anything.

Man you're thick. It has nothing to do with you being a Republican.

Do you really think that there's a hint of truth about Obama's neophytes rising up to defend regardless of the accusation or the validity of such statements IN this forum and club?! If that's the case, you're much thicker than I've anticipated. I think that the people that get irritated and raise a shit storm when you and others make stupid statements or call for Obama to be assassinated are simply much less extremist than you or maybe they practice more critical thinking. But that's what you get when you're just a mouth piece for Mr. Hannity, O'Rielly, Limbaugh. . . . I don't see these political issues as black and white. I don't believe that many of us do see these political issues as black and white. Unless, it's the 2nd Amendment, but that's another thread.

Like I said before, I voted for the person whom I thought would do the best job this time around, and that happened to not be Obama. SO accusing me of being an Obama supporter is kind of pointless.

Assassination, racist jokes are offensive and can be considered illegal activities under certain legal lens. They also put our club in a bad light when looked upon by an outsider. And frankly, anyone that would want to join our club because of said subject matter, I wouldn't want joining our club. I would take issue if a fellow club member began seriously talking about how Bush needs to be murdered (sure impeach him, charge him with what ever but do it legal and be sure that the charges are real and not imagined). But that's not the case around here.


Thats my original point, I just made it more sarcastic, glad someone is able to make it clear...
I don't listen to/watch any of the above mentioned people, but I gotta say, my first thought when people first said, "Too bad it didn't hit him" was, wait, they don't anyone making threats/wishing harm upon Obama, yet they can wish for Bush to get pegged with a shoe to the face? Not everyone was talking about Obama dying, some just wanted him hurt. I think that's stupid. I also think it's stupid to wish for a flying shoe to hit the current president. I don't think anyone here is arguing for being allowed to talk about assassinations or anything. Just looking for some parity. If it's wrong to hope for one to be hurt, why not both? If its only wrong to hope for death but ok to hope for injury, where do we draw the line? I'm not even saying the mods should step in, it just seems a bit off that someone says how it's a bit wrong to wish harm on someone just cuz you don't like em, and rather than the chorus of agreement with Obama, you're saying to quit whining :dunno:

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 09:45
I'm sure Obama supporters rise up to defend him, but I didnt accuse you of doing that.

The whoile thing started when I jokingly make a sarcastic comment on how if the same comments were made about Obama, the thread would get locked.

I never called for Obama to get assasinated and besides the wildflower I never called for him to be hurt either. I personally wouldnt wish harm upon any person, unless they were a rapist, child mollester, murder and the like.

I hope Obama is able to live up to the high standards he has set for himself, if it means anything.




Thats my original point, I just made it more sarcastic, glad someone is able to make it clear...

Cool. Thanks for clarifying yourself.

Mtb Jak
December 17th, 2008, 11:11
if he even attempted that towards saddam he would be tortured and executed no doubt... the only reason these people are allowed to do this kind of thing is our actions in the war and getting saddamn out of there... remember all of them hitting the statue with their shoes??

the people over there are ungrateful scum, and i dont care what you preach or where you stand, he is our president still and it is very disrespectful to us as a nation.

nick86
December 17th, 2008, 11:25
Funny! I actually baked a bunch of chocolate chip cookies last night. :D

Thanks for having a sense of humor! :)Piss on the humor. Where the hell is my cookie?:chef: Sorry pee on the humor, where the heck is my cookie. PC baby.

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 11:29
Piss on the humor. Where the hell is my cookie?:chef: Sorry pee on the humor, where the heck is my cookie. PC baby.

Send me a PM with your address, you'll get your cookie just in time for Xmass! :D

tharlanjr
December 17th, 2008, 11:40
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/tharlanjr/untitled-15.jpg

IslanderOffRoad
December 17th, 2008, 14:16
if he even attempted that towards saddam he would be tortured and executed no doubt... the only reason these people are allowed to do this kind of thing is our actions in the war and getting saddamn out of there... remember all of them hitting the statue with their shoes??

the people over there are ungrateful scum, and i dont care what you preach or where you stand, he is our president still and it is very disrespectful to us as a nation.

Bush should have smiled and said "you're welcome" after the guy threw the shoes at him.

tharlanjr
December 17th, 2008, 14:19
lol, that would have been classic

SBrad001
December 17th, 2008, 14:29
All I can say is that it is one of the few times I've been proud of the way Bush handled himself, he is my President after all. He did a good job of handling a very bad public situation with tact and humility. He gained some points in my book.

Mudderoy
December 17th, 2008, 14:55
73 Virgins. :wave1:
73 virgins shoes...

If I had been there I would have beat the guy. No one attacks my president. Even if it were Clinton, or Obama (ok I wouldn't have hit him as hard for those guys...)

That is disrespectful to the man that represents my country and me!

Mudderoy
December 17th, 2008, 14:58
Bush should have smiled and said "you're welcome" after the guy threw the shoes at him.

"Thank you, but these aren't my size. They are too small."

IslanderOffRoad
December 17th, 2008, 21:35
"Thank you, but these aren't my size. They are too small."

No, you're welcome. As in the guy throwing the shoes at Bush was him thanking Bush for giving him the ability to throw shoes at a world leader and not end up dead, with his wife raped and his sons in slavery.

Mudderoy
December 18th, 2008, 06:47
somethin happeded to the guy he now has a broken arm and stuff

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,467504,00.html

OMG! It wasn't his throwing arm was it!?!?!? Will he be out for the rest of the season? :roflmao:

Oh and for the record, I listen/watch to Limbaugh, Hanity, Oreily, Ingrim(sp?). I agree with most of what they say/think but not all. As for being a clone (as in not thinking for one's self), well aren't we all a product of what people have told/taught/shown us all our lives? What you CHOOSE to take a position on is thinking for yourself. There are very few, if any, original ideas.

Many times people will "attack" you on irreverent issues to control the conversation. Stand your ground and repeat your point if necessary. It is akin to having an argument when you are 6 years old. Eventually someone is going to call you fat, stupid, etc... It has nothing to do with the argument, they just ran out of things to say.

SBrad001
December 18th, 2008, 07:21
OMG! It wasn't his throwing arm was it!?!?!? Will he be out for the rest of the season? :roflmao:

Oh and for the record, I listen/watch to Limbaugh, Hanity, Oreily, Ingrim(sp?). I agree with most of what they say/think but not all. As for being a clone (as in not thinking for one's self), well aren't we all a product of what people have told/taught/shown us all our lives? What you CHOOSE to take a position on is thinking for yourself. There are very few, if any, original ideas.

Many times people will "attack" you on irreverent issues to control the conversation. Stand your ground and repeat your point if necessary. It is akin to having an argument when you are 6 years old. Eventually someone is going to call you fat, stupid, etc... It has nothing to do with the argument, they just ran out of things to say.

Personally, I think it's the difference between listening to a political pundit, and then formulating your own opinion vs listening to a political pundit and simply repeating what he or she said.

Same thing goes for the twits in college that think that reading a text book gives them all the answers to every social problem we have. Critical thinking is missing from the equation.

I try to expose myself to more than one opinion. I try and understand the differing viewpoints out there. And since I do try and expose myself to those differing views and voices, it's pretty easy to recognize when someone is simply repeating talking points.

Mudderoy
December 18th, 2008, 07:34
Personally, I think it's the difference between listening to a political pundit, and then formulating your own opinion vs listening to a political pundit and simply repeating what he or she said.

Same thing goes for the twits in college that think that reading a text book gives them all the answers to every social problem we have. Critical thinking is missing from the equation.

I try to expose myself to more than one opinion. I try and understand the differing viewpoints out there. And since I do try and expose myself to those differing views and voices, it's pretty easy to recognize when someone is simply repeating talking points.

Points taken, thanks for the clarification.

SBrad001
December 18th, 2008, 07:39
Points taken, thanks for the clarification.

No problem. I can be very caustic and condescending from time to time. Not exactly one of my better traits and you're more than free to call me on it when I'm being a dick. :)

Mudderoy
December 18th, 2008, 08:01
No problem. I can be very caustic and condescending from time to time. Not exactly one of my better traits and you're more than free to call me on it when I'm being a dick. :)

It's great having people agree with what you have to say, but you learn so much more when you argue with someone that has a vastly different viewpoint.

I'm always willing to learn something new, and I like to think that is my main reason for arguing a point.


I try not to be caustic, but it comes to me so naturally! :laugh: