Stupid Newbie -> get your torch ready

[NighthawkXJ]

Ok, just anouther stupid newbie, Thought i would say hi, and get flamed a little, get it out of the way for later.

I just bought a 97 xj off of ebay, and this week went and picked it up.
here are some pics

http://members.cox.net/dalen_cox/frontleftjeep.jpg

It is a pretty nice jeep, its first outing was just to get it home, and it was a 10 hour journy at over 80mph, so no gas milage. Oh well

3 inch rusty's lift, Rusty's fender flares, BVG roof rack, and 15x8 eagle alloy rims.

My question is: where would you put the cb in a truck that has the navigation console on the roof?

And has anyone had anyproblems with power windows not working, mine worked for part of the trip then the passanger front stoped working. I have taken the door apart, and there does not seem to be any power going from any of the wires in the door panel to the window switch.

I bought a chiltons for this jeep, but wouldnt you know, the cut off on the book is 1998, but there is nothing in it for 1997 or 1998, so i dont even know what fuses are what in the fuse box. So if anyone has a diagram of the fuse box for this truck, i would love to have a copy of it.

Ok, there, flame away.
D

[dallas xjs]

Ok, just anouther stupid newbie, Thought i would say hi, and get flamed a little, get it out of the way for later.My question is: where would you put the cb in a truck that has the navigation console on the roof?so i dont even know what fuses are what in the fuse box. Ok, there, flame away.
Dyou see those 2 big round things on the top of your xj those are fuses...ever one mounts the cb on the roof buy the fuses...that metal thing the fuses are on is the fuse box...cbs dont work unless close to the box...hope this helps...oh yea nice xj...||charles|| http://i9.tinypic.com/2v7wdpc.gif

[87manche]

welcome, nice XJ.
It seems as though you came with thick skin, that's a plus.
Enough with the niceties.
Search N00B!
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78331

[Gil BullyKatz]

You might as well velcro or ziptie those rusty's flares on in case you ever want to go wheeling...

get to the trailhead and take 'em off.

if not...

savor the pics

[LBEXJ]

Welcome Nighthawk ... nice XJ. No flames from here, but a piece of advice ... cut that receiver off the front bumper and recess it. Your knees and shins will love you for it. Enjoy the Jeep and consider yourself welcome to any and all upcoming events.

Les

[NighthawkXJ]

Search N00B!
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78331

You are a better searcher than me, but thanks man, i will practice a bit more before asking any more dumb questions.

As for the flares, they where on the truck when i bought it, i liked the look, and thought i would leave them on till they broke, then look for something even better.

[OT]

Oh ouch!
Yes, definitely recess the receiver.

[NighthawkXJ]

cut that receiver off the front bumper and recess it.

Thanks for the advise, i was thinking about making a grill guard for the front, and putting it on the front of the bumper going up rather than on the top, that would make it a not stick out so far. but i dont know yet.

[Vlad]

Nice jeep, does that one come in any men's sizes?

[Rocketman]

Asking if anyone has a Chilton's laying around says a couple things. To me at least!!

1. You have no idea what you have gotten yourself into. Get the Jeep FSM instead. (Factory Service Manual)

2. You can not afford to maintain the vehicle you just bought. (especially doing 8 hour, 80mph runs with a lifted vehicle)

:huh:

Also it's a "best practice" around here to never ask for copywrited material. When people post parts of the FSM or a Chilton's or Haynes, the threads magically disappear!!

[NighthawkXJ]

Asking if anyone has a Chilton's laying around says a couple things. To me at least!!

1. You have no idea what you have gotten yourself into. Get the Jeep FSM instead. (Factory Service Manual)

2. You can not afford to maintain the vehicle you just bought. (especially doing 8 hour, 80mph runs with a lifted vehicle)

Ok then, now that you have that out of your system, you can read what i wrote, I HAVE THE CHILTONS MANUAL, but thank you for the recomendation on the FSM, I will get one shortly.

The truck had a complete going through when i picked it up, and for the first hour or so, i took it quite easy, and gradually worked up to traveling speed. One thing i guess i did not mention is that my wife and my 9 day old baby girl where in the jeep with me, and well, we really wanted to be home. I know it was not the best thing for the jeep, and that is not how i plan on driving the jeep now that i have it home, but after several stops checking for leaks or fluid consumption, and doing a visual once over of the vehicle, i felt comfortable.

Thanks for your advise though.

[Rocketman]

OK... even worse, wife and new baby doing 80mph down the highway in a unknown lifted Jeep...

I was bustin your balls before but that one deserves some serious chaff!!!

[Gil BullyKatz]

Fawk...

Let him be...

Bad enough the govt. wants to mandate how to live your life...

Most of us have surely done questionable things according to the opinion of others...

Lets not become boyscouts shall we?

[HaleYes]

Fawk...

Let him be...

Bad enough the govt. wants to mandate how to live your life...

Most of us have surely done questionable things according to the opinion of others...

Lets not become boyscouts shall we?
I'm with ya Gil. You beat me to it.

[OT]

How dare you speed in a Jeep with a settled 3" lift?????
:rolleyes:
Down here, 80mph is only 5mph over the speed limit.


BTW, I have a Chilton's and a Haynes.

[NighthawkXJ]

How dare you speed in a Jeep with a settled 3" lift?????
:rolleyes:
Down here, 80mph is only 5mph over the speed limit.

Just trying to keep up with traffic.:twak: you know how it is going through a big city at rush hour, either you can go all out, or be one of the people sitting at the end of the on ramp to scared to merge.

[scoobyxj]

Down here, 80mph is only 5mph over the speed limit.

Which is what the speed limit should be on every Interstate (75mph).

[OT]

Just trying to keep up with traffic.:twak: you know how it is going through a big city at rush hour, either you can go all out, or be one of the people sitting at the end of the on ramp to scared to merge.
I was being facetious.:dunce:

[DBenz]

I have all the bells and whistles in my 97, including overhead console. I put my CB on the passenger side of the transmission hump and then moved it to under the ignition starter thing.

[NighthawkXJ]

Derik, you guys going to be around this afternoon, i thought i might run accross town and see what you think.

[Reichy]

i will be outside cleaning.

[chelms27]

your window problem is probably caused by your window lock button wiring. There is a good article on here about how to fix it. But welcome aboard, this is a very good site.

[NighthawkXJ]

Thank you, I just did a big search and found what you where talking about with the window lock, I dont think that is my problem, as i dont have power at all to that switch in the passanger door. HOWERVER, im going to do it anyway just to make sure. I have nothing to lose at this point.

[ILLXJ]

Fawk..
Most of us have surely done questionable things according to the opinion of others...
Lets not become boyscouts shall we?

I don't believe it. I thought every one in the MWC was a boyscout!:looney::wierd: :laugh3:
I also think power windows are a pain in the ass.
By the way, Welcome Nighthawk. JIM.

[Rev Den]

I am the ONLY MWC boyscout....or I WAS...got kicked out....got caught eating a brownie. :D

Welcome....come to a run...we play much better in person.

Rev

[87manche]

I am the ONLY MWC boyscout....or I WAS...got kicked out....got caught eating a brownie. :D

Rev
don't you know the BSA encourages that sort of thing? NGot a supreme court ruling that says eating hot dogs isn't allowed in the BSA.

when I was a camp counselor the GSA camp was 1.5 miles through the woods.
You can run it in 15 minutes i nthe dark ;)

[Roxtar]

The switch that locks the window switches (next to the driver's side window switch) tends to go in and out on my '99.
Pushing it a couple times will sometimes work.

Bells and whistles are cool.
I even fabbed a bracket to keep the power seats when I switched to the Corbeaus.

A little civility in the uncivilized world of wheeling.

[XJ_ranger]

How dare you speed in a Jeep with a settled 3" lift?????
:rolleyes:
Down here, 80mph is only 5mph over the speed limit.


BTW, I have a Chilton's and a Haynes.

OMG he probably didnt have the front swaybar attached either!

:D :D

[Roxtar]

OMG he probably didnt have the front swaybar attached either!

:D :D
Don't you know XJs have unibodies?
You can't run them without a swaybar.
They'll folded like a taco.

[Rev Den]

Don't you know XJs have unibodies?
You can't run them without a swaybar.
They'll folded like a taco.
SPOBI!

BUT...running without a front swaybar will make you liable in the event of an accident, no matter the circumstances, and you will be sent to a federal pound you in the azz prison.

:D


rev

[OT]

You could just tell them, that you removed the sway bar, because you don't want anything on your jeep that makes it sway.:dunce:

[87manche]

You could just tell them, that you removed the sway bar, because you don't want anything on your jeep that makes it sway.:dunce:
thanks for the sig ;)

[NighthawkXJ]

OMG he probably didnt have the front swaybar attached either!

:D :D

Shit, come on now. Sway bar in place, and truck handles great. But thanks for the concern.

:greensmok

[DBenz]

Do anything to it yet? Haven't seen it around yet...

[Buckeye]

Nice XJ. Unless you are experienced in building rigs, become afilliated with a local club or group. Leave your new XJ at home and take some ride alongs with an experienced driver/owner/builder that you you can get along with and trust for advise. Don't trust the first guy that comes along. Too many in this activity like to use the greenhorn for their own purposes. The right individual will probably come to you. Ride observe ask questions (no matter how dumb you might think ) and eventually you will be able to develop a plan for building your trail rig. Don't start throwing money at your rig unless you have a plan. Remember, every mod requires changes. For instance, don't buy 36" tires with a 3" lift. Every mod has it's purpose and limitations. Geometry, flex and torc can be your friend or foe. :rtm:

Another thing to remember. When you go out on the trail with that shiny XJ, there are some people that will deliberately get you into situations they know will cause problems. :scottm: They want to see you get unnecessary body damage. Experience is your best protection.

On the radio. Consider the Courier that has the speaker and controls in the microphone and the main unit mounts under the dash or in hiding somewhere of your choice out of the way. :cool:

Chilton and other repair books are usually useless for most situations you really need info. They just fill pages with generic tripe that gets you to buy it. get a book the pros use, Factory Service Manual.

[Rev Den]

become afilliated with a local club or group.

You mean like NAXJA-MWC?

:D

rev

[dallas xjs]

sway bars are for mall rigs....

[XJ_ranger]

Nice XJ. Unless you are experienced in building rigs, become afilliated with a local club or group. Don't trust the first guy that comes along. Too many in this activity like to use the greenhorn for their own purposes....

Another thing to remember. When you go out on the trail with that shiny XJ, there are some people that will deliberately get you into situations they know will cause problems. :scottm: They want to see you get unnecessary body damage. Experience is your best protection.



who does this? come on man...

Ive NEVER been on a trail where someone was "Forced" to take body damage that they didnt know was going to happen at the begning of the trail...

[HaleYes]

who does this? come on man...

Ive NEVER been on a trail where someone was "Forced" to take body damage that they didnt know was going to happen at the begning of the trail...

Same here. I've never been on a NAXJA run official or unofficial where someone was "forced". I've actually seen others go to great lengths to help out so someone does not get any trail scars.

Sounds like Buckeye's wheeling buddies aren't really buddies.

[DBenz]

I don't think Nighthawk has to worry about a shiny new rig, I hear this one already has some carnage.


We have an expert with 9 posts...?

[Kurt04]

*OFF TOPIC*

So whats there to do in Salina? I'll be going there in a couple weeks for... http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98204

[Rocketman]

THIS IS GONNA GET INTERESTING!!! :moon:

[Rocketman]

Ohhhhhh, who deleted the post... It was gonna be so much fun!!

[Buckeye]

I didn't say anything about NAXJA events or members. It does happen and he should be aware of the fact that not everyone has his welfare at heart. Please don't be reading into my post what isn' there:exclamati

[dallas xjs]

i have seen guys get suckered into trails...its not good but it happens ever day...thanks to my fab work and wheeling exp i cant get burn or fall into this trap that happens ever day....and a winch helps...||charles||

[HaleYes]

I didn't say anything about NAXJA events or members. It does happen and he should be aware of the fact that not everyone has his welfare at heart. Please don't be reading into my post what isn' there:exclamati
It was implied. You obviously have never been around any NAXJA runs or NAXJA people for that matter. Both are top notch in my book.

Oh, and I'm not replying to your hateful, "e-tough guy" PM either. You need to get a little thicker skin if you can't handle it, you'll never make it here if you don't. I encourage you to stick around, I think you'll like it if you give it time and look at it with an open mind.

[Gil BullyKatz]

It was implied. You obviously have never been around any NAXJA runs or NAXJA people for that matter. Both are top notch in my book.

Oh, and I'm not replying to your hateful, "e-tough guy" PM either. You need to get a little thicker skin if you can't handle it, you'll never make it here if you don't. I encourage you to stick around, I think you'll like it if you give it time and look at it with an open mind.


uh-oh! new e-tough guy?

Send him my way...

I can run up and shank him in his kidney when he rings the doorbell.

[IH8RDS]

Same here. I've never been on a NAXJA run official or unofficial where someone was "forced". I've actually seen others go to great lengths to help out so someone does not get any trail scars.

Sounds like Buckeye's wheeling buddies aren't really buddies.

Proof:

BEFORE

http://hjeepxj0.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/redstreet7.jpg

AFTER

http://home.earthlink.net/~pigie/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cutxj.jpg

:gee:

[Lawn Cher']

You suck! And where'd your redness go?

[IH8RDS]

You suck! And where'd your redness go?

:eyes: What are you talking about?



Soon....so very soon

[Lawn Cher']

:eyes: What are you talking about?

Pic no worky

[NighthawkXJ]

Derik is right, i already have some dents, dings, and scratches, but that is just character.

Thanks for the advise guys, i run with a good bunch of guys, low budget boys like me that still have to drive their rig home, then to work the next day. We might be pussys in some of your eyes, but hey we still have fun, still make some runs, and still work together as a team on and off the trail. We usually help each other build and get our rigs ready before every run as well. Here is our local yahoo site if there are any of you local to the kansas area that dont mind running with more than just xjs or jeeps in a more family type setting.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/KS_Outlaw_4x4/


We will alot of times go out of our way as a whole group to get around a trail that looks like even one person out of the group is not going to make it up. Just so something like what you where talking about does not happen. At the same time, if you do think you can make it, and want to run the trail, we will stop, you do your thing, and we will help you if you dont make it.

Im not a noob to wheeling, having grown up atving on many of the trails that i now run in the jeep. And this is not the first rig that i have built, or helped build. I had an IH before this, and wow, what a job it is to build one of those. I do watch this site every day, looking for advise, reading others mistakes, and i also have 4 or 5 guys here local running jeeps that i get alot of advise from too. From what i have seen, i really like the Family that NAXJA seems to build within its members, and i look forward to getting to run with many of you.

As for the jeep, for the time being, it is going to stay pretty much how you see it in the pics. Im getting my big ammo box ready for the back so i can carry tools, straps, tiedowns, etc. I still need to get a HI-Lift, and do some thing with my spare tire (roof, bumper, drag it with a rope: you know the options). The only machanical work that i have or will be doing is: cap, rotor, plugs, wires, filters, muffler, exhaust manifold, diy swaybar discos, remove rear sway, and adjustable lower control arms. Custom self fab skids.

Before doing any more lifting, tires or anything else, im going to run it for a year or so, get a good feel for it. At some point i would like to go with a ford 8.8 discs, lockers, 4.56 or 4.27s and maybe up to 33s with enough lift to do 33s comfortable. I have no plans at this time of hacking, caging, or full coil. I do think that stuff is cool as hell, and want a full on rock only rig, but just a champaine dream on a beer budget right.

As for salina having something to do, not a damn thing, i guess you could hang out with the local xj guys. But other than that, nothing really.

[Reichy]

yes salina is ghey. yeah it sucks worry about going to the trails that are hour and half away and not brakeing anything so you can drive home and to school the next day.

[NighthawkXJ]

yes salina is ghey. yeah it sucks worry about going to the trails that are hour and half away and not brakeing anything so you can drive home and to school the next day.

youth, what happened to mine?

[ILLXJ]

yes salina is ghey. yeah it sucks worry about going to the trails that are hour and half away and not brakeing anything so you can drive home and to school the next day.
Hour & a half--- not a big deal. Try 13 or 24 hours. That's when you really worry about breaking. JIM.

[NighthawkXJ]

We are very lucky where we are to have some real nice areas close by. Tuttle Creek is about 1.5 hours. Cassville Mo is about 6, Kansas Rocks is about 5(i think), and Disney OK is 6 or 7 i think.

Most people from here go up to Tuttle to play just cause it is so close, and that is a good all around place to dial in your rig before going to kansas rocks or disney

[XJ_ranger]

Oh, and I'm not replying to your hateful, "e-tough guy" PM either. You need to get a little thicker skin if you can't handle it, you'll never make it here if you don't. I encourage you to stick around, I think you'll like it if you give it time and look at it with an open mind.

I want to get another 'tough guy' e-mail.... I havent gotten one since BigG was threatening my life 3-4 times a day...

[NighthawkXJ]

I want to get another 'tough guy' e-mail.... I havent gotten one since BigG was threatening my life 3-4 times a day...

Hey now, dont leave me out, I kinda like tough guy emails. Sent me a couple so i can play too.