Does Muslim = Stupid?

[SCW]

The pope made his remarks on Islam in a speech in which he quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and an educated Persian on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said.

"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,'" he quoted the emperor as saying.

Clearly aware of the delicacy of the issue, Benedict added, "I quote," twice before pronouncing the phrases on Islam and described them as "brusque," while neither explicitly agreeing with nor repudiating them.


So what do the Muslims do? They riot to prove they are not evil, but rather the "religion of peace".

Morons.

[87manche]

no worse than any other population.
Bulls win the championship, what happens, Chicago rioats.
buckeyes win the championship, what happens, Columbus riots.
It's not Muslims that are stupid, it is an overwhelming majority of the species.

[ECKSJAY]

It's not Muslims that are stupid, it is an overwhelming majority of the species.

Winner! :)

[LBEXJ]

It's not Muslims that are stupid, it is an overwhelming majority of the species.
Bingo! Just another example of "Here's yer sign!"

Les

[Ramsey]

i really thought this thread would go in a different direction

[ECKSJAY]

i really thought this thread would go in a different direction

Nah, that majority we're discussing is still in bed. :D

[Ramsey]

bunch of lazy wankers

[DrMoab]

bunch of lazy wankers
Steve is still in Bed??? :dunno:

[Ramsey]

where he will forever sleep

[87manche]

i really thought this thread would go in a different direction
I'm hurt Ramsey, I'm not prejuduice, I hate everybody equally :)

[Matthew Currie]

Seems kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.

[Helltech4x4]

Most enginering students at my Universaty are of middle eastern ethnic back ground becuse they are the only ppl smart enough to get in...

[OT]

no worse than any other population.
Bulls win the championship, what happens, Chicago rioats.
buckeyes win the championship, what happens, Columbus riots.
It's not Muslims that are stupid, it is an overwhelming majority of the species.
All that tells me, is that midwesterners are rioting tards.:looser:

[bshaw]

All that tells me, is that midwesterners are rioting tards.:looser:
yea for sure, cause you know the coast line states never riot! :twak:

[Matt S.]

All that tells me, is that midwesterners are tards.:looser:

Edited to more accurately portray midwesterners.

[OT]

yea for sure, cause you know the coast line states never riot! :twak:
Don't be mad at me, Nate was the one who left out the SCRC(SoCal Rioting Club)....

[bshaw]

Don't be mad at me, Nate was the one who left out the SCRC(SoCal Rioting Club)....
damn you Nate!! :laugh2:

[Gil BullyKatz]

Edited to more accurately portray midwesterners.

hmmm...

now who was it that was looking to wheel in the midwest in the near future?

we'll remember that comment once you're drunk and passed out

[OT]

Anyone for tea?

[Matt S.]

hmmm...

now who was it that was looking to wheel in the midwest in the near future?

we'll remember that comment once you're drunk and passed out


I am skeered. :cry:

Hey, it's not like y'all havn't given us reason to think other wise. :kissyou:

[OT]

Can't we all just get along?

[GSequoia]

Can't we all just get a bong?

There are no rivalries while sitting around eating Dorritos watching Spongebob.

[Dirt]

We watch The Big Lebowski.

[OT]

Yeah, about a guy from Benicia.

[GSequoia]

We watch The Big Lebowski.

I know.

After finally sitting down adn watching that I understand 90% more of what you barkeaters say.

[Ramsey]

We watch The Big Lebowski.
and we dont wheel

[rock rash]

man its to bad the muslims cant be more like the catholics and have the leaders play doctor with little boys all day. that would be so much better! :D

[rock rash]

:gag:

[5-90]

Does muslim = stupid? The jury is still out, but I'm leaning more towards it now.

Face it, the Pope was reading something that was written about seven hundred years ago! It wasn't his own opinion - it was something that predates most countries to-day! If the imams want an apology, I think they're going to need a time machine...

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[Wolfe]

no worse than any other population.
Bulls win the championship, what happens, Chicago rioats.
buckeyes win the championship, what happens, Columbus riots.
It's not Muslims that are stupid, it is an overwhelming majority of the species.
The difference is they dont issue fatwahs or threaten to kill people.

I dont think muslims are stupid, intollerent yes, violent yes, but im sure thats not the majority. I do however think thier clergy have a lot to answer for. It would be good to see the imans denounce violence for once, I feel their silence only prevokes a response. I heard this morning a nun was killed apparently in response. http://euronews.net/create_html.php?page=detail_info&article=380230&lng=1












Lucky for Mel Gibson that Jews dont issue fatwahs

[SCW]

The point it the Mulim riots are in response to being considered violent. Idiots.

I don't see any news reports of a preist being upset over the molester stigma and going home to fondle an alter boy to settle his mind-

[5-90]

The point it the Mulim riots are in response to being considered violent.

Which, I find, gives lie to the "violent Muslim" stereotype, and instead goes to prove it (incrementally) as an archetype instead.

That makes various individuals stupid. The idea being the "self-fulfilling prophecy" is to give lie to it, and show everyone else they're wrong.

Does Muslim/Islam = stupid? Not necessarily. However, look at the people we call "rednecks" - if they were a more vocal minority, then people would be asking "does white = stupid?" How about the constituency of the NAACP - most of the more intelligent Negroes I've met were not members, and themselves tried to decry the ass'n - but we still get the idea that "black = stupid" or "black = n***er" - even though both are not generally true. I've met Black people that I have had absolutely no trouble with, some that were smarter than me, and quite a few I could trust to some extent. (That's going some, I think. I don't trust easily - the number of people I can trust compleatly are usually less than the fingers of both hands...)

You are going to have "bell curve"-like distribution in pretty much all colours/races, and there's not a lot you can do about it. You are going to see a large number of "average" (say, 3/4 or so per BCD, as I recall...) and a limited number of "exceptions" in either direction. Sadly, it is the negative exceptions that manage to garner more press than the positive exceptions - I blame the whole "Shit Sells" precept that seems to drive the news programmes. As long as we continue to publicise and lionise the negative exceptions of pretty much any colour/race, they're going to keep doing what they're doing.

Just imagine what would happen if we stopped giving ink and airtime to the violent Muslims who insist upon blowing themselves up. Gawd help us, they might realise that we're not going to give them any more press, and go away (with a little luck.)

Am I so far off? Think back - why did John Hinkley shoot President Reagan? He wanted to impress Jodie Foster (and I'm not sure why - she never has done anything for me...) All that came out in the press - imagine what would have happened if we'd just caught him, convicted him (in a vacuum,) and cast him into an oubliette and forgot about him? It would probably make everyone else think twice as well, y'know?

Tangent - I wonder what I'd have to do to impress Helen Hunt? That's a more worthy target to me...

Back on task - I honestly think we could get a lot of this crap under some sort of control if they didn't get any more press. Problem is, getting the press to co-operate totally with the idea. The "Fourth Estate" would, of course, bark about the "People's Right to Know" (which flatly doesn't exist...) and they tend to put ratings as a higher priority than public safety...

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[Ramsey]

Just because it wasnt reported doesnt mean it didnt happen. Dont judge a whole group on a few extremists.

[5-90]

Just because it wasnt reported doesnt mean it didnt happen. Dont judge a whole group on a few extremists.

I honestly try not to - but the Court of World Opinion doesn't always think like that.

However, it is the "extremists" who give the rest of the group a bad name (kinda like "ten percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name" - as a result, we have generally lumped attorneys into the group known as "ambulance chasers." I got all sorts of calls wondering if I was going to sue the woman who hit me last November - but my answer buffaloed them. "Can you find out who lost the load I was picking up? I'd sooner go after him...")

You are correct that it is a few extremists who are causing all the trouble (although I should probably read The Holy Qu'ran again, it's been a while...) and my comment was to make sure they didn't get any press for their actions. You are also correct that "because it wasn't reported doesn't mean it didn't happen," but the fact that it is reported is what continues to cause the violence - as long as they know they can draw attention to themselves, and get ink and airtime, they're going to keep doing it. Cut off the press, stop lionising them, and they're going to start to figure out (hopefully) that it's not going to do them any good.

That's a first step, anyhow. I figure the next step that can be taken is "for every one person killed in a terror attack, we will kill ten of your people at random." Sort of a "reverse decimation," if you will. It's a bit harsh, but it should lead (hopefully) to the community "policing itself" before it's wiped out entirely. Right now, they've got no impetus to get their brothers under any sort of control - which is what they need...

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[Ramsey]

That's a first step, anyhow. I figure the next step that can be taken is "for every one person killed in a terror attack, we will kill ten of your people at random." Sort of a "reverse decimation," if you will. It's a bit harsh, but it should lead (hopefully) to the community "policing itself" before it's wiped out entirely. Right now, they've got no impetus to get their brothers under any sort of control - which is what they need...

5-90
Thats just asinine. How is that any different than what they do?
The only thing not giving them press would do is let fewer people know about it, it wouldn't stop anything. Americas opinion just doesnt matter that much to them.

[5-90]

Thats just asinine. How is that any different than what they do?
The only thing not giving them press would do is let fewer people know about it, it wouldn't stop anything. Americas opinion just doesnt matter that much to them.

Asinine, perhaps. The idea was to make it costly.

However, I'd like to hear what you suggest. Refusing them press was actually the first idea that came to mind - that should help to draw attention away from them. Giving them press serves to legitimise them and their actions, which is what needs to be taken away. Still, as long as we're exchanging ideas, I'd really like to hear what you're thinking. That's how workable solutions can be derived - ideas from one side, ideas from the other side, and then meet in the middle.

Since we're not politicians, it's rather likely we'll come up with something that might actually work (even though it will never be tried - because it makes sense.)

I'll admit that "ten for one" is a bit asinine and extreme, but the idea there was to fight back using their own methods. As long as they're going to hide in the shadows, we can't hold them directly accountable without a great deal of effort and some international co-operation...

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[Ramsey]

Since we're not politicians, it's rather likely we'll come up with something that might actually work (even though it will never be tried - because it makes sense.)
5-90
:laugh:
I really don't think there is a way to control it unfortunately. You could kill 10,000 today and there would be another 10,000 tomorrow to replace them with even more of a cause to fight more. I don't think there is a violent solution.

[5-90]

:laugh:
I really don't think there is a way to control it unfortunately. You could kill 10,000 today and there would be another 10,000 tomorrow to replace them with even more of a cause to fight more. I don't think there is a violent solution.

True - but I'm not actually looking for a violent solution - that's why the original idea of not giving them press (and therefore legitimacy) still stands. I was looking for your response to that idea.

I only brought up the idea of "ten for one" as an exercise in absurdity - there's not a chance in Hell that idea would fly, even if it did make some sense. However, I'm still all for tracking these people down and killing them in their beds - as long as we're sure they're the ones responsible. I don't care much for missionaries and people who preach - you can imagine how I feel about the idea of "spreading religion by the sword." I have enough trouble dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses coming around on Saturdays, when I'm trying to sleep in a little...

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[rocklandxjer]

Does Muslim = Stupid?
yep, every one


















edit: joke, not EVERY muslim is stupid

[Mark Smith]

Allah/Muhammed, et al., can kiss my cracker ass

[Wolfe]

:laugh:
I really don't think there is a way to control it unfortunately. You could kill 10,000 today and there would be another 10,000 tomorrow to replace them with even more of a cause to fight more. I don't think there is a violent solution.

Doesn't that cause you concern ? There must be something fundamentally wrong with that way of thinking.

[Mark Smith]

edit: joke, not EVERY muslim is stupid

Spoken like a true pussy. LOL

[Ramsey]

Doesn't that cause you concern ? There must be something fundamentally wrong with that way of thinking.
if you killed my brother and family, i'd for damn sure be coming after you

[Wolfe]

if you killed my brother and family, i'd for damn sure be coming after you
Yes, you are right, but is that what we are saying. No I dont think so, the pope hasn't killed anyone and yet, so far a nuns `been killed, thats just crazy. You cant justify this righteous indignation from muslims again, enough is enough.
I saw a good sticker it said "stop the jihad" and beside it was "VIOLENCE WONT SOLVE ANYTHING"
I think its time to stop pussyfooting around muslims, why should they expect every one to watch what they say or think for fear of reprisal.

[RichP]

Most enginering students at my Universaty are of middle eastern ethnic back ground becuse they are the only ppl smart enough to get in...

The schools also make a hell of a lot more money on them than they do on local instate and US students. England has programs to draw foreign students becasue they pay 2x the tuition than their own citizens...it's all about money.

[rock rash]

Allah/Muhammed, et al., can kiss my cracker asswow, you ARE a dumbshit...

[SCW]

The schools also make a hell of a lot more money on them than they do on local instate and US students. England has programs to draw foreign students becasue they pay 2x the tuition than their own citizens...it's all about money.


There is more than money here also-

In the US education is widely avilable to the masses. In say, India, an undergrad education is very cheap but only the VERY best with the VERY MOST money can even come close to being able to afford school in the US. Typically grad students come over on a research grant so they can work for a few bucks a month ($1200/month at the U of U) and get free tuition. Competition is pretty tight for these jobsamong foreign students because US citizens can go get any job they want, they don't usually stick around as a researcher for long. Foreign student can't work anywhere but at the University because of their visa restrictions.

When you see a group of really smart middle eastern or indian students, it's because they have been boiled down to only allow the best in grad school in the US. They don't all come that way-

[Ramsey]

When you see a group of really smart middle eastern or indian students, it's because they have been boiled down to only allow the best in grad school in the US. They don't all come that way-
Thanks for clearing that up, I always thought they/we were supercomputers.