Barack Obama's plan to disarm America

Senator Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to "Change" the Second Amenment:

1) Ban use of firearms for home defense.

2) Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right To Carry.

3) Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

4) Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.

5) Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

6) Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%.

7) Restore voting rights for five million criminals including those who have been convicted of using a gun to commit a violent crime.

8) Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.

9) Mandate a government-issued license to purchase a firearm.

10) Appoint judges to the U.S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

How do you feel about what he pans to do if he is elected?

Whats your source?
I gotta see this

it will never happen.

LOL...if he actually does try this, the target on his own head would only grow exponentially....

I want to see what he plans to do about the deer population that will explode in "corn" states like IA, PA, IL, etc if he makes it too expensive to even hunt...even more rising food prices and ethanol prices will shoot up as well...in addition to the crime rates that will skyrocket beyond control.

I really hope for his sake that this isn't true....

Yea, all rhetoric. No sources, no proof, these numbers are WAY off, surely!

Trail-Axe said:

Senator Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to "Change" the Second Amenment:

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I'm no fan of Obama's, but this seems to be stretching the truth. So, my take on it is:

Trail-Axe said:

1) Ban use of firearms for home defense.
2) Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right To Carry.

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Probably not. This would probably require changing the constitution.

Trail-Axe said:

3) Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

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I haven't heard anything new about this one in a while.

Trail-Axe said:

4) Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.

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ATFE has been trying to limit the number of gun shops for years. This is not new.

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5) Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting andsport shooting.

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ATFE again. Armor piercing: if it will go through a vest = AP = almost all center-fire rifle ammunition.

Trail-Axe said:

6) Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%.

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Various congresspersons have floated 1000% tax on guns and ammunition.

Trail-Axe said:

7) Restore voting rights for five million criminals including those who have been convicted of using a gun to commit a violent crime.

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Nothing to do with gun rights. The Dems just see 5 million more dem voters.

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8) Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.

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You mean "Re-pass and expand"; again, Dems have been re-introducing this turd sandwich every year since it expired the first time.

Trail-Axe said:

9) Mandate a government-issued license to purchase a firearm.

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See 1 and 2

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10) Appoint judges to the U.S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

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This has more to do with judicial activists then gun control. Gun control is just(another) one of the unpleasant side effects of the type of judges Democrats favor.

These are policies Democrats and the far left have championed for decades. There's nothing new about any of it. Anyone who owns and shoots guns already knows it.

I'm with igotanxj. If this is his stated policy, I'd like to see a source. He's pretty slick (not as slick as Slick, but slippery) and I can't imagine anyone around him even hinting at anything like this.

Oh and we in Texas will never tolerate it. We would break away from the union before we let something like that happens.

Actually, with him being a constitutional laywer he does believe in the 2nd but also recognizes the rights of the states to manage gun laws. And since most gun laws are state based, I would worry more about how your governor feels about guns than a presidential candidate.

BIgDaddyChia said:

Oh and we in Texas will never tolerate it. We would break away from the union before we let something like that happens.

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THATS what I'm talkin about. God I wanna move to Texas!

I think this is all bu!!shit tho, there seems to be a lot of lies circulating around the internet about Barack Obama.

Oh! By the way, did you hear he is planning on opening up our borders to Africans??

igotanxj said:

THATS what I'm talkin about. God I wanna move to Texas!

I think this is all bu!!shit tho, there seems to be a lot of lies circulating around the internet about Barack Obama.

Oh! By the way, did you hear he is planning on opening up our borders to Africans??

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I thouhgt the border was opened up to Africans already. Dont we have millions of African Americans already

You asked for the source, well here it is:

http://www.nraila.org/obama/

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?id=308&issue=047

Keep in mind the 2008 election will determine who controls:

• U.S. participation in the anti-gun United Nations;
• Appointments to the federal courts, including the critical U.S. Supreme Court;
• The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives;
• The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), which the Brady Campaign now insists should ban firearms in every place of employment in America;
• The Department of State, which could give credence and funding to the world gun-ban efforts of Rebecca Peters’ International Action Network on Small Arms (IANSA). The State Department could negotiate a U.N. global gun-ban treaty that would violate American sovereignty;
• The U.S. Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management, which could force huge changes on hunters and gun owners;
• The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which today is being petitioned to ban lead bullets for hunting, even in the ubiquitous .22 rimfire;
• The Environmental Protection Agency, which could conceivably close down shooting ranges throughout the country.

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You asked for the source, well here it is:

http://www.nraila.org/obama/

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?id=308&issue=047

Keep in mind the 2008 election will determine who controls:

• U.S. participation in the anti-gun United Nations;
• Appointments to the federal courts, including the critical U.S. Supreme Court;
• The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives;
• The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), which the Brady Campaign now insists should ban firearms in every place of employment in America;
• The Department of State, which could give credence and funding to the world gun-ban efforts of Rebecca Peters’ International Action Network on Small Arms (IANSA). The State Department could negotiate a U.N. global gun-ban treaty that would violate American sovereignty;
• The U.S. Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management, which could force huge changes on hunters and gun owners;
• The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which today is being petitioned to ban lead bullets for hunting, even in the ubiquitous .22 rimfire;
• The Environmental Protection Agency, which could conceivably close down shooting ranges throughout the country.

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Holy Gun Nazi Batman! I guess it is true.

Welp, that decides who I'm voting for

11) White reservations will be set up in remote areas of the country and those that will refuse to comply with General Wright's orders will have a cap popped in their as#es.

DID YOU KNOW HE'S A MUSLIM, TOO?!


WTF is wrong with people like you, Bush spends seven years eroding your constitutional rights and you don't say a f***ing thing. But then you send out propaganda bullsh*t like this. . .

Will he listen to any of this? Maybe so, wouldn't it be good to have a president who listened?

DWK said:

DID YOU KNOW HE'S A MUSLIM, TOO?!


WTF is wrong with people like you, Bush spends seven years eroding your constitutional rights and you don't say a f***ing thing. But then you send out propaganda bullsh*t like this. . .

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I don't believe he is Muslim. Do you have a source for this?

People like me? You mean people who think for themselves and have not been brainwashed by some liberal hippy pot smoking professor in college? Someone who actually has a life and does not need his government to hold his hand and wipe his butt; someone who believes America's citizens should be armed for their personal protection; someone who believes that his government should not have its hands tied when it comes to busting terrorist and fighting crime; someone that has a day job, pays his taxes honestly, and believes in an honest days pay for an honest days work; someone who does not take hand outs, but does extend his hand to those in need? Please tell me what you think is wrong with people like me, I would love to hear all about it.

I voted for president Bush. I'm a Conservative God fearing Republican. I like president Bush and think he is doing a fine job cleaning up eight years of mess his predecessor made. I still serve the United states of America, and I do not cower to political pressure, nor am I intimidated by the liberal left and their socialist agenda, and I vote.

Facts are facts my friend, you don't like the truth about your candidate, then I suggest you find another and stop fouling the air with your bad breath.

Trail-Axe said:

I voted for president Bush. I'm a Conservative God fearing Republican. I like president Bush and think he is doing a fine job cleaning up eight years of mess his predecessor made. I still serve the United states of America, and I do not cower to political pressure, nor am I intimidated by the liberal left and their socialist agenda, and I vote.

Facts are facts my friend, you don't like the truth about your candidate, then I suggest you find another and stop fouling the air with your bad breath.

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I really get a kick out of the political bickering. For the past 16 years I have listened (and read) about how bad President Clinton was for the country by the same folks who can't take just seven years of criticism about the current administration.

Let's review the last seven. We got the (un) Patriot Act. Even with billions into the Dept of Homeland Security the southern border is just as or even more porous, we are in danger of losing more of our sovereignty as the MEX-Can Free Trade corridor highway inches closer to reality, the economy tanked, oil prices up, any more?

Facts are facts my friend, you don't like the truth about the candidate you (and I) help elect, then I suggest you stop fouling the air with your bad breath.

Here is a reality check for you...House Speaker Nancy Pelosi swept into the Capitol with an agenda to bring the troops home from Iraq two years ago, did it happen...NO! Why? Because she did not have enough support and neither will any attempt to change the Constitution...does ERA ring a bell?

Keep believing the propaganda you are being fed by the NRA (I used to be a member but decided they were fear mongerers) same music, different lyrics than what the left has going on. I'll keep my mind open and think for myself.

see you in Moab.

BIgDaddyChia said:

Oh and we in Texas will never tolerate it. We would break away from the union before we let something like that happens.

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Hell and if that happened I might need to move there!!!

DWK said:

DID YOU KNOW HE'S A MUSLIM, TOO?!


WTF is wrong with people like you, Bush spends seven years eroding your constitutional rights and you don't say a f***ing thing. But then you send out propaganda bullsh*t like this. . .

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Well, he says he's not a Muslin anymore, but his father was a Muslim and he was schooled in Indonesia in a Muslim school. And, he hung around with Louis Farakan. And if he's a Christian, its a Black Liberation Christian, you know, the "hate whitey" branch of Christianity. Hey, wait a minute, I think I'd trust him more as a Muslim than a Black Liberation Christian.