budget jeepspeed prerunner build

[slcpunk74]

so we started with a stock 94 4 d00r 2wd 4.0 aw4 yata yata...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC00769.jpg?t=1215285861

she had some minor cosmetic damage

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC00773.jpg?t=1215285924

over all it is a sound a sturdy platform for $400 dollars

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC00786.jpg?t=1215286042

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC00777.jpg?t=1215286101

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC00788.jpg?t=1215286137

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed003.jpg?t=1215286241
after a new header panel,hood, fans,power steering pump,hannemans, paint, and my old 32s.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed004.jpg?t=1215286322


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed002.jpg?t=1215286354

just got my seats(corbeau baja ultras) and I have most my lift and the rest on order(thanks to mr. Hartwig). I will be running an re 4.5" with heavy duty trac bar, short arms with drop brackets, and full packs out back.

We got the hannemans put on and painted and my warning to those thinking of buying them beware. We payed $450 to our door and they charged us $35 to "crate them" which is just a cardboard box that come with a large hole in it... They fit as good as expected but had large gouges from when they were made. I layed 4 coats of primer and stilled sanded through it trying to get them flat... Well good thing is they are just flat black.

[slcpunk74]

IN THE WORKS... We have the lift going on soon then the shocks and bumps, and limt straps. We plan foa shocks front and rear with shocks going through the rear into a cage. We are thinking foa bumps for this build too. The cage will come with the addition of a third seat and the rest the goods.

[tcm glx]

Looks like a great start!

[mjd99xj]

That looks hot! What are you going to go with for rear flares/fenders?

[Lonestar]

Nice start.

Wayne is a good guy to get parts from. He's hooked me up with a chip and a few other parts for my dodge.

Funny thing. I just realized I live down the street from you.:laugh:

Later
Bryan

[Gravesdiggerxj]

Looks good. Let's chop the rear fenders up some time

[slcpunk74]

That looks hot! What are you going to go with for rear flares/fenders?

not sure yet. I might just run some 97+ xj flares just because I like them but we will see.

[slcpunk74]

Nice start.

Wayne is a good guy to get parts from. He's hooked me up with a chip and a few other parts for my dodge.

Funny thing. I just realized I live down the street from you.:laugh:

Later
Bryan

thats awesome. I didnt know any guys on here lived in the wb

[slcpunk74]

Looks good. Let's chop the rear fenders up some time

yeah I think that time will be soon beacause after the lift gets here I think its time for tire fun and cutting to clearance

[slcpunk74]

So I am sad to say i it looks like I may have loost my partner on this build. My buddy Kev whp has been with me since the conception of this build has found an 01 ford ranger that he would like to build up along side our previously named "sharry" (because it was going to be cherry but we are "sharring" it). I will call her Cherry now that she is all mine.

Kevs Ranger
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/kevsrange.jpg?t=1215370487

So far my runnig total for the cherokee build is as stated...

$400 initial cost for a 94 xj 4 door 2wd aw4 with 150k and some damage(from around provo)
$200 hood, rad, grill, and header panel.(from a local xj)
$250 almost new 4.5" RE coils and leafs(from trndrvr)
$150 drop brackets and lower RE arms(local naxja buddy)they need rebuild
$450 hannemans front bulge fenders( with lots of primer which I had and paint I got free)thanks dad for they paint supplies!
$440 2 corbeau baja ultra seats shipped (from northridge 4x4)

total with some odds and ends here and there around $2k

[slcpunk74]

I have to add that I just bought some parts from Wayne for around $400.

so my running total so far is about $2300

[slcpunk74]

I am thinking of ordering some foa shocks and bumps. Does anyone have any input on these guys???

[slcpunk74]

we had a little trouble with kevs ranger so it was a "ranger wrenching" night. While we were waiting for some metal to cool we put kevs 33x12.5x15 bfgs on the front of cherry to see what it looked like with no lift and hannemans... I think the wheels are 15x8 with about 3.25" bs

This picture is sitting next to my other xj lifted 6" with 1.25" wheels spacers and unlimited ravines with 4.75" bs and they are 33x12.5x15

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/jeepsterandtherunner052.jpg?t=1215879318

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/jeepsterandtherunner054.jpg?t=1215879481

I measured the widest point of the tire from one side to the other and we have about 74"... I think that we can have 74.5" up front for js rules but I wil double check that one... Man that thing is wide!!!

I got my re track bar and bracket yesterday but I am still waiting on my uppers and rebuild kit for the lower flex joints so I can install my re 4.5" lift.

one more ha ha ha

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/jeepsterandtherunner055.jpg?t=1215879861

[jpcherokeekid]

looking good, if i had an extra xj, id be doing this too.

[Gojeep]

Who needs a lift? Looks way better the way it is and you will get better handling to boot.

[slcpunk74]

Who needs a lift? Looks way better the way it is and you will get better handling to boot.

I know I was telling my friend the other day I wish it was like a truck and I could just get huge fenders for the rear and only lift it like 2" with the 33s that would look very stadium truck

[Gojeep]

I know I was telling my friend the other day I wish it was like a truck and I could just get huge fenders for the rear and only lift it like 2" with the 33s that would look very stadium truck

You can get huge rears to match the front. They are normally for a 2 door but have seen them fitted to a 4 door ones as well. Some just weld the rear door shut for better strength but have seen the guard cut so part of it opened with the rear door.
Not sure who made it but could have even been Rustys??

[slcpunk74]

You can get huge rears to match the front. They are normally for a 2 door but have seen them fitted to a 4 door ones as well. Some just weld the rear door shut for better strength but have seen the guard cut so part of it opened with the rear door.
Not sure who made it but could have even been Rustys??

I have seen that on a 4 door before(maybe the fabtech js?) I might go that route someday just so I dont get hassled by the smokeys when Im on the road(plus they look sick).

We will see because I think I could cut them to seperate like a bushwacker but it would not be easy, and I think you need all doors functional for js.

[slcpunk74]

so here is what I found... I might have to do this...

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35123&page=2

[Gojeep]

Yep, they are the ones I was thinking of.
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32351&d=1201325936

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32352&d=1201325936

Why would you think you would get more cops attention with these? You be lower in lift so thought is would attract less?

[Mike1331]

"I am thinking of ordering some foa shocks and bumps. Does anyone have any input on these guys???"





I have the 18" travel foa shocks. i love what they've provided for my ride so far. My rear end is soo much better than before at taking the whoops and jumps. Although i did add them at the same time as my 10 leaf National pack. The pack is still a little stiff, i think it needs to be broken in more. I took a leaf out and may be taking another out. I only have 3 trips on this set up now. So I couldn't tell you how they'd hold up in time but i can say i experienced no fading while hitting the rough stuff.
I think i ordered light/med comp and light rebound. I plan on ordering the 12" units for the front.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6/l4fd63c372fd11f137c07e3em0.jpg
Shot at 2007-12-18

[slcpunk74]

"I am thinking of ordering some foa shocks and bumps. Does anyone have any input on these guys???"





I have the 18" travel foa shocks. i love what they've provided for my ride so far. My rear end is soo much better than before at taking the whoops and jumps. Although i did add them at the same time as my 10 leaf National pack. The pack is still a little stiff, i think it needs to be broken in more. I took a leaf out and may be taking another out. I only have 3 trips on this set up now. So I couldn't tell you how they'd hold up in time but i can say i experienced no fading while hitting the rough stuff.
I think i ordered light/med comp and light rebound. I plan on ordering the 12" units for the front.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6/l4fd63c372fd11f137c07e3em0.jpg
Shot at 2007-12-18

how do you plan on mounting your front shocks? are you bumped or strapped? if so show some pics please.

[slcpunk74]

Yep, they are the ones I was thinking of.
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32351&d=1201325936

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32352&d=1201325936

Why would you think you would get more cops attention with these? You be lower in lift so thought is would attract less?

thats actually funny you would say that because my buddy Kevin got an ohv on highway ticket for driving his prerruner to get it tested for safety. Mine will still be at 4.5 plus inches so well see I might have to go higher dependng on what shackles use.

[IslanderOffRoad]

I was thinking of picking up the FOA's as well, they have some good reviews on PBB and the price is right.

[Mike1331]

how do you plan on mounting your front shocks? are you bumped or strapped? if so show some pics please.


I plan on mounting my front shocks to the control arm brackets with some shock tabs welded to the side. On the top I’ll most likely mimic Skullvarians build. This should hopefully allow the use of 11-12"s of travel up front and when and if I ever race I’ll strap em at 10. I'm strapped up front but not in the rear. I don't have enough travel in my leaf pack to warrant straps. My shocks are long enough and do not ever exceed full drop with my current set up. I choose the 18's because...well why not, the longer the better for cooling purposes. I plan on tying that hoop into a cage soon for anybody about to flame my set up. All though it’s taken a lot of abuse and nothing has gotten tweaked.

I'm using a fresh set of stock rubber bumps front and rear for two reasons.
1. Price, I can't afford em nor do I have the time to put into air bumps at the moment
2. Softer and more comfortable than poly

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9812/dsc01264ie2.jpg
Shot with DSC-T1 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-T1&make=SONY) at 2007-11-28

[winkosmosis]

Yep, they are the ones I was thinking of.
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32351&d=1201325936

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32352&d=1201325936

Why would you think you would get more cops attention with these? You be lower in lift so thought is would attract less?

Those look incredible. Those rear ones are reason enough to want a 2 door! I bet with the doors off it looks like some futuristic military truck

[slcpunk74]

I was thinking of picking up the FOA's as well, they have some good reviews on PBB and the price is right.

any links to the foa reviews?

[PornstaR]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699104&highlight=foa

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699132&highlight=foa

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=622780&highlight=foa+review

some links about FOAs on PBB

[slcpunk74]

wow after all that reading I am so confused. Thanks for the links pornstar. I realy cannot decide if I want some 2 tube bypass kings or just some 2.5 remote res kings or something or if I just want 2.5 remote res foas or if I wanna wait for the foa bypasses to come out... Damn choices!!!

[slcpunk74]

we are experimenting with new and exciting engines hahat it was my birthday and I have strange friends...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC01160.jpg?t=1216486956


We did some wrenching and got the axle out and the other day I started my truss... pics soon.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC01162.jpg?t=1216487061

I got one seat mounted (temp till I build the cage). I was just tired of the seat falling back when I would hit the brakes.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC01165.jpg?t=1216487445

the stack of parts ready to go on after the truss is done.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC01167.jpg?t=1216487213

my friends love my jeep almost as much as me...Almost ha ha

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC01169.jpg?t=1216487364

[Goatman]

If you're trying to go budget (in the title, but not exactly when you're considering King bypasses), a number of us are using the Prothane coil inserts which are real soft and go inside the coil. Some consider them a poor man's air bump, and they work great. I can hit hard and can't feel it bottom out. On mine they compress about 3.5". I use a stiff cut down Skyjacker coil and 7100's, it's not bad.

Looks like fun. :)

[Pharaoh XJ]

If you're trying to go budget (in the title, but not exactly when you're considering King bypasses), a number of us are using the Prothane coil inserts which are real soft and go inside the coil. Some consider them a poor man's air bump, and they work great. I can hit hard and can't feel it bottom out. On mine they compress about 3.5". I use a stiff cut down Skyjacker coil and 7100's, it's not bad.

Looks like fun. :)

How did you mount them ? pics ?

[Goatman]

They go inside the coil. The only thing you have to do is remove the stock bumpstop and make a round plate that you bolt back into where the bumpstop is threaded into. The coil inserts will just sit inside the coil and bump up against that plate. They come in various lengths, and are corrugated so they can collapse. I used the 10" and cut about an inch off. I have 12" shocks set with about 7" of up travel, and there is 3" of travel before the bumpstops hit and they compress 3.5". Very progressive, they are cheap, and easy to install. Here's a link:

Prothane coil inserts (http://www.jegs.com/p/Prothane/762178/10002/-1)


http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/300/311/311-coilinsert.jpg

[slcpunk74]

If you're trying to go budget (in the title, but not exactly when you're considering King bypasses), a number of us are using the Prothane coil inserts which are real soft and go inside the coil. Some consider them a poor man's air bump, and they work great. I can hit hard and can't feel it bottom out. On mine they compress about 3.5". I use a stiff cut down Skyjacker coil and 7100's, it's not bad.

Looks like fun. :)

I will most likely just be ordering the foa 2.5 resis tonight and if I dont like them then they go on my dd(other xj). I will most certainly be using some hydro bumps eventually.

[slcpunk74]

I started my truss on thursday...
I started with a 2x2x2 U shaped 3/16 thick channel my dad had bent up at his work,(thanks Nate and George again)
also used some 3/16 flat bar to capture my lower ca mounts.

I cut and notched the channel to fit on the bottom of the 2wd beam. I still need to clean some stuff up, weld on my knuckle trusses(for the C's), figure something out for the upper ca mounts(any ideas guys?), and do something with my track bar bracket(any ideas?).
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed008.jpg?t=1216597372

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed009.jpg?t=1216597756
I liked how this captured the lower ca mounts but I still need to cut something to weld over the stock part of the lower mounts that the bolt goes through.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed009-1.jpg?t=1216598068

I could not help myself

I painted my rear bumper finally. I re-painted my flares and front bumper to...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed014.jpg?t=1216598122
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed012.jpg?t=1216598231
hard to tell because they are so dusty oops
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed011.jpg?t=1216598319

[slcpunk74]

just ordered two foa 2.5 body 10 long resis yesterday so we will see how that works out. I figure if I dont like them for the prerunner they can just go on my dd jeep.

[slcpunk74]

So I got some more work doneon the truss yesterday and started getting everything ready to put the axle on.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed016.jpg?t=1216992265
its not as pretty as some but I trust how strong it is. I ended up going a little overboard on the knuckle trussing but I think they might actually clear the caliper(well see) if they dont then I will have to clearance them.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed017.jpg?t=1216992398
I captured my upper and lower control arm mounts and cut my old shock mounts off. I am waiting on my new shocks to come to do the shock mount mock-up. I need to truss between the uca mounts when I get my bender done, and still do something for my trackbar mount(axle side).
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed020.jpg?t=1216992582

re heavy duty compared to stock
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed021.jpg?t=1216992640
mmm double shear party1:

[slcpunk74]

They go inside the coil. The only thing you have to do is remove the stock bumpstop and make a round plate that you bolt back into where the bumpstop is threaded into. The coil inserts will just sit inside the coil and bump up against that plate. They come in various lengths, and are corrugated so they can collapse. I used the 10" and cut about an inch off. I have 12" shocks set with about 7" of up travel, and there is 3" of travel before the bumpstops hit and they compress 3.5". Very progressive, they are cheap, and easy to install. Here's a link:

Prothane coil inserts (http://www.jegs.com/p/Prothane/762178/10002/-1)


http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/300/311/311-coilinsert.jpg

the more I look at these the more I want a set on the front of my dd jeep with the collapsing f-150 rear bumps. I think that would be a good low cost setup for a little faster fun without extreme fab.

[silverslk]

I choose the 18's because...well why not, the longer the better for cooling purposes..


Finally, someone who "gets it". THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!

You don't know how many times I have heard people say "14's will work, you will never cycle more than 14inches" haha

[Mike1331]

I have about 7" of unused travel and my shocks have never even come close to getting hot. They get just warm enough to function properly, and the heavy foot driving begins. I never understood would people wouldn't accommodate a longer shock for the same price for the sheer assurance factor of longetivity.

[IslanderOffRoad]

I have about 7" of unused travel and my shocks have never even come close to getting hot. They get just warm enough to function properly, and the heavy foot driving begins. I never understood would people wouldn't accommodate a longer shock for the same price for the sheer assurance factor of longetivity.

So you're saying I should go big with shocks even if I'll never use it.

[Mike1331]

So you're saying I should go big with shocks even if I'll never use it.


Yes, bigger shocks mean more oil for cooling, more oil means cooler shock, cooler shock means less fading and longer lasting

[slcpunk74]

the jeepspeed guys will run 16" shocks out back because the extra oil capacity will keep the shocks from melting down or fading even though you have to be bumped and strapped to 12" of travel

[slcpunk74]

just snapped some shots of what I got done last night...
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed022.jpg?t=1217084749

got it sitting on the tires. I still need to tighten everything then mok up my shocks when they get here and bumps when I order them.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed023.jpg?t=1217084865

hard to tell from the pics but I need to shorten my uppers because they are way too long and my coil has a nasty arch to it.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed024.jpg?t=1217084971

[Skullver]

cool project, seems to be progressing nicely.

[slcpunk74]

cool project, seems to be progressing nicely.
thanks man.coming from you that is good to hear.

[slcpunk74]

ordered my foas almost 3 weeks ago and last monday I got a package containing One foa...Coilover!!! They sent me a 14" c/o instead of my 2 resis. Well so I sent that c/o to the guy who it wasa supposed to get to on wednesday and I sent an e-mail that tuesday askng where my stuff is... I have yet to hear a thing. I even put my phone number in the e-mail. I dont know so far not so buano.

On the bright side I got some 4" teraflex(I think) leaves and some wheels so in my attempt to keep the back a little lower then the front I installed the leaves. I will post pick of my anti-gnar stance...

[xcm]

i think everyone on the internet is sad to hear about FOA droppin the ball.... i for one was definately on the fence with them after the pirate4x4 thread.

[slcpunk74]

I am e-mailing them now so lets hope they can get back to me.

[Mike1331]

i think everyone on the internet is sad to hear about FOA droppin the ball.... i for one was definately on the fence with them after the pirate4x4 thread.

I couldn't find the thread that you speak of on pirate. What ball did they drop?

I'm starting to have second thoughts about buying some bypasses for the front from these guys.

I just noticed both of my shocks are leaking already at the connection between the resi tube and the resi. When I first got the shocks I thought it might give me some trouble as the connection point there looks sloppy with silicon/caulk (or whatever white substance they used) and the aluminum threaded connector that you wrap a wrench around to tighten the resi tube to the resi looks frail and cheap. I tried tightening it but it wouldn’t budge.

To FOA’S credit I am outside of the 6 month warranty and they did say if I sent the shocks in they would take care of the problem for free. However I must take care of shipping the shocks to them, these suckers are heavy and I’m sure shipping is a fortune, most likely half as much as an entire shock So I’ll prob. just figure it out myself.

I hope your shocks get to you soon and when they do check the connection at the resi to the tube.
I was able to get a hold of them immediately with this email address foasales@live.com


Good luck

[Skullver]

bummer, where exactly is it leaking from? Are they piggybacks or remote reservoir? Those reservoir caps are an absolute pain, on my SAWS I had to use a torch to melt all that loctite pipe thread sealant and I still ruined the cap. They are tapered pipe threads so it take alot of umph to mess with them, not sure how the foas are but I were you I would send them in, should only cost you around $40 for both, I have shipped quite a few shocks, just let out the N pressure and collapse them.
good luck and make sure you let us know how it turns out, I'll let you guys do some more testing before I even consider them:)
Chris
I couldn't find the thread that you speak of on pirate. What ball did they drop?

I'm starting to have second thoughts about buying some bypasses for the front from these guys.

I just noticed both of my shocks are leaking already at the connection between the resi tube and the resi. When I first got the shocks I thought it might give me some trouble as the connection point there looks sloppy with silicon/caulk (or whatever white substance they used) and the aluminum threaded connector that you wrap a wrench around to tighten the resi tube to the resi looks frail and cheap. I tried tightening it but it wouldn’t budge.

To FOA’S credit I am outside of the 6 month warranty and they did say if I sent the shocks in they would take care of the problem for free. However I must take care of shipping the shocks to them, these suckers are heavy and I’m sure shipping is a fortune, most likely half as much as an entire shock So I’ll prob. just figure it out myself.

I hope your shocks get to you soon and when they do check the connection at the resi to the tube.
I was able to get a hold of them immediately with this email address foasales@live.com


Good luck

[Mike1331]

bummer, where exactly is it leaking from? Are they piggybacks or remote reservoir? Those reservoir caps are an absolute pain, on my SAWS I had to use a torch to melt all that loctite pipe thread sealant and I still ruined the cap. They are tapered pipe threads so it take alot of umph to mess with them, not sure how the foas are but I were you I would send them in, should only cost you around $40 for both, I have shipped quite a few shocks, just let out the N pressure and collapse them.
good luck and make sure you let us know how it turns out, I'll let you guys do some more testing before I even consider them:)
Chris



They are the remote resi’s, and the leak is at the reservoir body where it connects to the tube.
Maybe I’ll just send em in after your testimonial on the issue.


This is a little aggravating that I have to do this already after 3 mild wheeling missions on these shocks. While I do romp in my rig pretty hard, my missions are of no comparison to a full on jeepspeed race like BITD.

I now have to remove them, ship, re-fill with nitrous (which isn't cheap around here), re-install and re-isolate the shock hole from the elements. Its this type of crap that makes something cheap suddenly become expensive.....Humbug

I’ll keep you guys updated on how they hold up for the second go around when its finished and I get back out on the dirt.

[slcpunk74]

They are the remote resi’s, and the leak is at the reservoir body where it connects to the tube.
Maybe I’ll just send em in after your testimonial on the issue.


This is a little aggravating that I have to do this already after 3 mild wheeling missions on these shocks. While I do romp in my rig pretty hard, my missions are of no comparison to a full on jeepspeed race like BITD.

I now have to remove them, ship, re-fill with nitrous (which isn't cheap around here), re-install and re-isolate the shock hole from the elements. Its this type of crap that makes something cheap suddenly become expensive.....Humbug

I’ll keep you guys updated on how they hold up for the second go around when its finished and I get back out on the dirt.
please do keep us in the loop but yeah I am not on my computer and I dont know how to retrieve my aol password so no tellin if they hit me back.

[slcpunk74]

so the word Im getting as of today is that my shocks have gone out and I will get my trscking number tomorrow... So I might actually get my shocks this week.

[slcpunk74]

I couldn't find the thread that you speak of on pirate. What ball did they drop?


check post 28 on page 2

[Skullver]

another option to save $ on shipping would be to take them apart and just ship the top cap/resi hose and resi cap, or if you don't want to take the top cap off you could send in just the shock body with the hose/res cap minus the shaft/piston assembly and the reservoir/floating piston/schraeder cap. I wouldn't mind seeing some internal pics if you do go this route, I heard something about cast pistons vs/machined billet that the rest use?

good luck either way


slc punk, what sort of valving did you go with? Do they sell the shim packs separate so you can fine tune them at all? Just wondering if they use compatible shims.
Good luck

They are the remote resi’s, and the leak is at the reservoir body where it connects to the tube.
Maybe I’ll just send em in after your testimonial on the issue.


This is a little aggravating that I have to do this already after 3 mild wheeling missions on these shocks. While I do romp in my rig pretty hard, my missions are of no comparison to a full on jeepspeed race like BITD.

I now have to remove them, ship, re-fill with nitrous (which isn't cheap around here), re-install and re-isolate the shock hole from the elements. Its this type of crap that makes something cheap suddenly become expensive.....Humbug

I’ll keep you guys updated on how they hold up for the second go around when its finished and I get back out on the dirt.

[slcpunk74]

slc punk, what sort of valving did you go with? Do they sell the shim packs separate so you can fine tune them at all? Just wondering if they use compatible shims.
Good luck[/quote]

I talked to the guy weeks ago and he said they had a specific jeepspeed style setup. The guy said it was extra firm compression and light rebound for the front so we will see how this works. Like I have stated before if the foas are not going to be up to par I am just throwing them on my dd for the bling " hey look at me I got resis" factor.

[slcpunk74]

BTW I have not revieved a tracking number yet :(

[Mike1331]

another option to save $ on shipping would be to take them apart and just ship the top cap/resi hose and resi cap, or if you don't want to take the top cap off you could send in just the shock body with the hose/res cap minus the shaft/piston assembly and the reservoir/floating piston/schraeder cap. I wouldn't mind seeing some internal pics if you do go this route, I heard something about cast pistons vs/machined billet that the rest use?

good luck either way


slc punk, what sort of valving did you go with? Do they sell the shim packs separate so you can fine tune them at all? Just wondering if they use compatible shims.
Good luck

Not a bad idea, I wouldn't mind checking out the internals of my shock as well and seeing if I could give em a little less rebound. I did light/med comp. and light rebound. If I could fine tune this set up I’d go with a little less rebound as my nationals are a little stiff. I’ll look first into what FOA would charge me to do this and if they offer shim packs to fine tune the shocks, then I’ll make the decision.

[slcpunk74]

BTW I have not revieved a tracking number yet :(

no shocks and no tracking number yet...

[slcpunk74]

so I finally got around to snapping some shots of the jeep after the leaves got on.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed030.jpg?t=1218919942

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed028.jpg?t=1218920024

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed027.jpg?t=1218920056

I also got some extra lowers and some coils woth the leaves from my buddy Dan. I got these wheels as well, but I dont think they are real american racing and I think they will be too wide for jeepspeed anyway but they will be fun to beat...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/xjspeed029.jpg?t=1218920180

so I got a tracking number form foa and I am not sure when they are getting here the ups site is not clear...

[Kiefer316]

those are american racing wheels i got the same ones on my cherokee and they look exactly the same

[slcpunk74]

those are american racing wheels i got the same ones on my cherokee and they look exactly the same

they look like it to me but they dont say american racing anywhere just made in america. Do your wheels have any markings to specify?

[Swamprat]

awesome jeep, i was planing on doing a prerunner set up on my xj. then i realized that im better off not screwing up my DD. but i am digging the wide fenders. where did you find those?

[slcpunk74]

awesome jeep, i was planing on doing a prerunner set up on my xj. then i realized that im better off not screwing up my DD. but i am digging the wide fenders. where did you find those?
got them from hanneman directly but in hindsight I wish I had gotten them through rustys because I might run his rear flares and the give you a bit of a deal

[slcpunk74]

awesome jeep, i was planing on doing a prerunner set up on my xj. then i realized that im better off not screwing up my DD. but i am digging the wide fenders. where did you find those?

I would not be too afraid of screwing it up. There is a build on here by xjeeper that is a dd and it looks like it can prerunn too. I have seen a sweet pic of him airin it out over a dune too so it can jump.

[slcpunk74]

TEST

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC01198.jpg

[Swamprat]

oh awesome thanks man, and again nice jeep.

[cds36]

Looking really good, I have done alot of work on my 2wd also. Just noticed today that my FOA front and rear are leaking some oil, I bought mine 6 months ago to the day. I absolutly love them and just today I emailed them with my problem so we will see how it goes. Heres a few pics of my junk.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/cds36/Cage/IMG00094.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/cds36/Cage/IMG_0509.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/cds36/Cage/IMG_0510.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/cds36/Cage/IMG00059.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/cds36/Cage/IMG_0485.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/cds36/Cage/IMG_0459.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/cds36/Cage/IMG00033.jpg

[DansGreyMj]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/cds36/Cage/IMG_0510.jpg



How does the ZJ linkage handle OTK?

(sorry to thread jack)

[cds36]

Not bad at all but Im going to have OTRfabwerks (http://www.otrfabwerks.com) fab me up a way more heavy duty OTK set up.

[DansGreyMj]

Year i was going to get him to make me some sliders as soon as i move back to so cal and can afford them.

[slcpunk74]

looks good where did you get the resi clamps?
I am trying like hell to get my bronco done by next summer for the car shows so well see. I dont think I will be getting much done on my js this winter.
I am thinking of putting my foas on my dd so I can try them out but we will see how it goes.

[slcpunk74]

jeep is for sale!!! $2000 WITH EVERYTHING(EXCEPT RACING SEATS OR SHOCKS,YOU CHOOSE)

[Mike1331]

Giving up so soon? Or did you discover there’s nothing budget about a successful race truck?



A recap for the peeps still researching FOA; I sent my leaky shocks in last Wednesday (2day ship) and just now received them today exactly 1 week later. Great return time on their part, they must have begun working on them the day of or after they received them. I asked them to add 90 degree fittings to the resi hose at the shock body and they did free of charge. They also included hiem shims in the box they sent back without request. They did take off my sticker I had on the resi, so I suspect they disconnected the leaky resi and tube and just replaced the entire resi instead servicing and re-installing. I’ll update after some usage. I should be going to Fort Sage on Nov. 1st so I’ll let you all know then how they perform. Happy days for great custy service.

[slcpunk74]

Giving up so soon? Or did you discover there’s nothing budget about a successful race truck?



A recap for the peeps still researching FOA; I sent my leaky shocks in last Wednesday (2day ship) and just now received them today exactly 1 week later. Great return time on their part, they must have begun working on them the day of or after they received them. I asked them to add 90 degree fittings to the resi hose at the shock body and they did free of charge. They also included hiem shims in the box they sent back without request. They did take off my sticker I had on the resi, so I suspect they disconnected the leaky resi and tube and just replaced the entire resi instead servicing and re-installing. I’ll update after some usage. I should be going to Fort Sage on Nov. 1st so I’ll let you all know then how they perform. Happy days for great custy service.

has nothing to do with the budget but rather the fact that we found this for 6k and the jeep already has almost 4k into it and it wont keep up with this truck when its dialed

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC00897.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC00900.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/troopdiggin87/DSC00901.jpg

[slcpunk74]

the guy we just bought the truck from sold us 5 33 12.5 baja t/as with 4 outlaw 2 wheels that only had one race on them for $500!!!

[tcm glx]

That's a sweet deal on the baja t/a's!

[xcm]

MOOOOVIN on up~!

[Mike1331]

Yeah i'm having second thoughts about racing jeepspeed too. Its a lot of money for how slow these things can go compared to the other clases.

Nice yota, long travel 4x4...sexy

[slcpunk74]

MOOOOVIN on up~!

I love my cherokees but the yota in the end is a better vehicle for us to race but it will be 2wd eventually(good thing I will still have one cherokee)

wow those t/as do not like the terrain on the hill... I was everywhere ha ha well see how they are out in the desert this weekend

[xcm]

nothing wrong with having non jeep vehicles!
racing jeepspeed is NOT the only reason to build a prerunner xj!

[Mike1331]

True, ultimately I think when its done I’d like to conquer both the Rubicon and the whoops/jumps at Ocotillo Wells as apposed to strictly a race rig. What better vehicle than the XJ if you’re on a budget.

[xcm]

forget the rubicon, im looking foward to san felipe some day!

[Mike1331]

well i'm only an hour away from the con so i might as well take advantage of that.

[XJRunner]

I'm lookin to do both, the rubi with my dad in his flatty and my brother in his cj to baja with my friend Cam in his Rod Fantelli built Bronco

[Swamprat]

woah you gave up on the xj, cause you found a nice taco?

btw the taco looks good

[xjjeepthing]

Nice Ride

[slcpunk74]

nothing wrong with having non jeep vehicles!
racing jeepspeed is NOT the only reason to build a prerunner xj!

I agree and I will most likely use some of the parts from the red one on my dd/wheeler because it looks like nobody wants all of it.
Whatever I guess I get two prerunners :)

[slcpunk74]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/gravesdiggerxj/Dell%2011-02-08/IMG00664.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/gravesdiggerxj/Dell%2011-02-08/IMG00665.jpg

here are more and some vids too
http://s170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/gravesdiggerxj/Dell%2011-02-08/

[xcm]

ok, this thread has gone off topic, it should be moved to the pre-runner section naxja doesnt have!

[slcpunk74]

yeah I agree with that. I think I will have some prerunner contributions sometime because now I want my dd/wheeler xj to go fast, plus I already have most the stuff to do it.