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Mudderoy
July 4th, 2008, 04:33
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I haven't seen this posted here, and I'm surprised.

I saw a news story the other day about a guy that says he has modified an internal combustion engine to get 110 miles to the gallon.

He wouldn't show the modifications, because he is waiting on patent approvals.

Here are some of the quotes from various articles on the Internet.

"Pelmear, who lives in Napoleon, Ohio, has tweaked his Mustang to get 110 mpg, making the engine nearly five times as efficient as a traditional gas engine"
"We redesigned a lot of different things on the [engine] block"
"It's still a rod-and-piston engine; it just has a lot more electronics on it."
"Traditional gas engines operate at 8 to 10 percent, efficiency, while the engine on the Mustang, he said, is at 38 percent efficiency."
"Pelmear entered his car to win the the $10 million Progressive Automotive X Prize: a race to find an affordable, marketable automobile that gets at least 100 miles per gallon."
"it's 400 horse and has 500 foot pounds of torque off the line, zero to 60 in three seconds."

"Pelmear won't show us under the hood. Some of his gizmos are still awaiting patents. But the secret lies in making engines more efficient. And with a little more work, developers believe they'll be getting 500 miles to the gallon and revolutionizing the auto industry."

Don't sell your XJ yet boys!

BTW, at 110 miles to a gallon that 20 gallon tank would last... 1,980 miles. At 500 miles to the gallon it would last... 9000 miles. So for me I'd fill up in January and then again ahhhh in November? lol

This wouldn't happen over night, but as people transitioned to these higher miles per gallon engines the prices for gas should drop, based on the speculators and demand dropping.

beakie
July 4th, 2008, 05:46
no idea on if or when or how it works... but your last bit, about prices dropping because of something like this. I would disagree. Oil Comps would now have to increase prices 10 fold so as not to lose profits since we are using less fuel.

Shitty milege uses lots o'fuel, means lots o'money for the big names, prices slowly rise till we revolt in our Jeeps/Trucks/Muscle cars at their doors.
Super Milege uses less fuel, means less money for big names, prices sky rocket to keep profits in line, we revolt but in higher numbers since people can drive much further on less fuel.

We's screwed.

avnsteve
July 4th, 2008, 06:30
waiting and watching, when are the angels coming down to deliver us from this tyranny

RichP
July 4th, 2008, 07:02
Keep in mind that those evil oil companies like exxon and shell are small potatoes as far as oil company size goes, they are the small kids on the block. The really big oil companies are owned by governments not corporations. When exxon profits are $40billion those big oil companies are are much higher and not all done in money either, political favors and trade agreements and about anything of value you can think of like maybe a few dozen F16's, F22's, etc.

MisterFubar
July 4th, 2008, 07:14
Gas prices will never go down a significant amount.


That is all.

yossarian19
July 4th, 2008, 07:40
Bogus. I'm 95% sure that the guy is a crackpot and that no modified 5.0, no matter how extreme the redesign, is going to get FIVE TIMES the best that FORD can do. I call bogus.

Root Moose
July 4th, 2008, 07:54
LOL

Pure BS.

DrMoab
July 4th, 2008, 08:17
Gas prices will never go down a significant amount.


That is all.
They wouldn't need to if you could go 5 times as far on a tank of gas.

Still, I call BS too but it would be so nice if someone could come up with a simple solution.

SCW
July 4th, 2008, 08:36
My solution gets 15 miles per sandwich. And I have to beat the chicks off with a stick (I'm happily married, sorry ladies)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/utahmom/Shane/Golf-trike.jpg

fscrig75
July 4th, 2008, 08:46
I saw that story too, he has a couple of E85 stickers on the car too.
I did notice that engine was carberated, but I don't know much about this stuff so I don't know if that makes a difference or not.

scottmcneal
July 4th, 2008, 08:55
My last trip my xj got almost 90 mpg for the weekend.. This was a trip to JV and back...It was on a trailer if that helps.. See it is easy to get that mileage.. Sorry had too...LOL

DWK
July 4th, 2008, 13:22
B.S.

(A TAXPAYER VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS LIKE A CHICKEN VOTING FOR COLONEL SANDERS?
After over seven years of Bush Rebublicanism that is really funny, how do you even start to justify a statement like that? A taxpayer voting for a Rebublican is either rich or stupid.)

ECKSJAY
July 4th, 2008, 14:51
B.S.

(A TAXPAYER VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS LIKE A CHICKEN VOTING FOR COLONEL SANDERS?
After over seven years of Bush Rebublicanism that is really funny, how do you even start to justify a statement like that? A taxpayer voting for a Rebublican is either rich or stupid.)

Pssst, buddy...your stupid is showing. :)

Darky
July 4th, 2008, 15:49
Pssst, buddy...your stupid is showing. :)
I like that he posted simply to dispute a signature...

Mtb Jak
July 4th, 2008, 16:05
the only way your jeep will get more than a 100 miles per gallon is if its on jackstands in the garage

Darky
July 4th, 2008, 16:07
the only way your jeep will get more than a 100 miles per gallon is if its on jackstands in the garage
Then its not moving...hence 0 miles...:)

Gritts
July 4th, 2008, 16:15
:patriot: I can swear on a stack of Bibles that my wife's Grand Cherokee gets better that 100 miles per gallon. The car's computer confirms it... Going down a step mountain road counts don't it?:rof:

tbburg
July 4th, 2008, 20:21
Seems like a bunch of engineering students at Cal Tec made a car that got 100 MPG back in the '80s. Of course, it was an MG, had a lightened chassis, the smallest diesel engine they could find, modified with the most efficient parts they could find(small freely turning alternator, water pump etc.)

Oh,... and they drove it at 55mph.

DrMoab
July 5th, 2008, 08:40
B.S.

(A TAXPAYER VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS LIKE A CHICKEN VOTING FOR COLONEL SANDERS?
After over seven years of Bush Rebublicanism that is really funny, how do you even start to justify a statement like that? A taxpayer voting for a Rebublican is either rich or stupid.)
Nominated!!!

scottmcneal
July 5th, 2008, 08:48
B.S.

(A TAXPAYER VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS LIKE A CHICKEN VOTING FOR COLONEL SANDERS?
After over seven years of Bush Rebublicanism that is really funny, how do you even start to justify a statement like that? A taxpayer voting for a Rebublican is either rich or stupid.)


Can you say joking? Nope didn't think so... WAIT FOR IT


















:looser: Found it

UNCC_99XJ
July 5th, 2008, 16:03
Then its not moving...hence 0 miles...:)
Ok....what about if it's on a trailer then? Technically it is moving....just not under it's own power...


:D