Tech Education

[2xtreme]

I have had several people interested in "sewing" tires recently and have offered to Doug that I would help him sew up his sidewall while we were at NWFest. The idea being that he would have a useable spare and we could all learn something along the way.

I will have my tire mounting/demounting tool with me and we will be sewing up the tire, patching from the inside and likely adding a tube and putting it back together. It should be a good learning experience for anyone who has not done this before and I thought others might be interested in seeing this.

We could also add "re-seating a bead" to the lesson for anyone that might be interested (we could do it the traditional way or the pyro way).

I know this isn't Noobfest but there any other tech type events others would like to see while we are all together? Let me know and I will consider putting together other training if it makes sense.

Michael

[GI-John]

I'd love to learn that Michael. We have the big truck kits with the rubber "Thread" and never learned how to use it.

To add to what you are already doing, I could offer a Map reading/Land Navigation Class if there is enough interest.

John

[IXNAYXJ]

We could also add "re-seating a bead" to the lesson for anyone that might be interested (we could do it the traditional way or the pyro way).Just not the Eli way. ;)

-----Matt-----

[noutlawjeeper]

Just not the Eli way. ;)

-----Matt-----
:laugh:

[Ba-Riedo]

Just not the Eli way. ;)

-----Matt-----

I probably should never ask to hear this story.

-Alex

[IXNAYXJ]

I probably should never ask to hear this story.

-AlexI've got the video(s). :firedevil

-----Matt-----

[2xtreme]

I'd love to learn that Michael. We have the big truck kits with the rubber "Thread" and never learned how to use it.
John

There is no chance you could bring one of these kits with you is there?
I would really be interested in seeing it.

Michael

[XJourney]

Great idea. I have a few to add to the list.

1 Hi lift operation taught by Ba-reido :D
2 CB tuning
3 Recovery safety
4 Spotting

[2xtreme]

Great idea. I have a few to add to the list.

1 Hi lift operation taught by Ba-reido :D
2 CB tuning
3 Recovery safety
4 Spotting


I agree with all, but I really want to do #2!!
Can you bring your tuner?

Michael

[Ba-Riedo]

Great idea. I have a few to add to the list.

1 Hi lift operation taught by Ba-reido :D


Ill also throw in a spelling class for you. I before E...:lecture:

I would also like the CB tuning and spotting class, maybe a proper winching technique with tree savers? Or is that more for noobfest?

-Alex

[XJourney]

Can you bring your tuner?



Yes

[TORX]

We could also add "re-seating a bead" to the lesson for anyone that might be interested (we could do it the traditional way or the pyro way).
Interested.

2 CB tuning Also interested, and will gladly volunteer my setup for it. :D

[CanMan]

I've got the video(s). :firedevil

-----Matt-----

Lets see them there skippy.

:D

[GI-John]

There is no chance you could bring one of these kits with you is there?
I would really be interested in seeing it.

Michael
Mine are on the slow boat back from Iraq and won't be back in time. I could ask around post or ask Erik to borrow his.

[2xtreme]

Mine are on the slow boat back from Iraq and won't be back in time. I could ask around post or ask Erik to borrow his.

If it works out, cool. If not, not a problem. I was planning on useing SS wire to do Doug's tire, but I have never seen a kit or "rubber" wire.

Michael

[XJCasper]

I'll get the quick version of the lessons Sat morning.

Or not.

[2xtreme]

I'll get the quick version of the lessons Sat morning.

Or not.

:confused1
What?

Michael

[XJCasper]

All ideas sound great and things I would love have a training at, but won't be there until Saturday morning.

Jason

[2xtreme]

All ideas sound great and things I would love have a training at, but won't be there until Saturday morning.

Jason

Not an issue, we will do our best to keep everyone who wants to be involved in each of these "events" as much as possible.

They will be done "on the fly" as time permits.

Nothing formal.

Michael

[XJSlater]

How safe would a tire repair like that be? I was under the impression that a punctured sidewall was not repairable. :dunno: But if its safe then I would love to learn how.

[2xtreme]

I guess that depends on your idea of safe?
There are VERY few side wall repairs that any NORMAL tire store will do. This tire repair is strictly to get you off of the trail and to safety. This is not a repair that should be used on the trail. Having said that, there is no reason that a side wall couldn't be repair and used for this purpose only in a safe manner.

Michael

[Avanteone]

I'm down for teaching a couple of other things if anybody is interested.

How about changing a D30 axle shaft and/or unit bearing?

Bent tie rod trail repair? (or we could let Rooneypower or Mojojojo teach this one)

Proper winching/recovery techniques? (we could get Sean to flop again and get his rig back upright) :)

Just tossing out ideas. Anything else that could be a valuable lesson?

John

[ECKSJAY]

How safe would a tire repair like that be? I was under the impression that a punctured sidewall was not repairable. :dunno: But if its safe then I would love to learn how.

TRYING HARD to find a run report from BC (circa 1999) where a guy had sliced two tires, one with a large sidewall slice and the second that was irreparable. His only option left (due to being way in the backcountry) was to repair the sidewall. Between baling wire, vulcanizing compound, mushroom plugs, and patches, he fixed it enough to get it on the road and drive several hundred miles at a decent speed. I remember even several months later it was still holding air and was actually his spare tire.

Same trip a guy had punctured his radiator on the bottom, which was trail fixed by rotating it sideways so the hole was on top and running spare hoses to the appropriate locations. Those bastards can fix anything. ;)

[2xtreme]

TRYING HARD to find a run report from BC (circa 1999) where a guy had sliced two tires, one with a large sidewall slice and the second that was irreparable. His only option left (due to being way in the backcountry) was to repair the sidewall. Between baling wire, vulcanizing compound, mushroom plugs, and patches, he fixed it enough to get it on the road and drive several hundred miles at a decent speed. I remember even several months later it was still holding air and was actually his spare tire.

Same trip a guy had punctured his radiator on the bottom, which was trail fixed by rotating it sideways so the hole was on top and running spare hoses to the appropriate locations. Those bastards can fix anything. ;)

As I have said before, I don't advocate driving on tires with punctured sidewalls, however. I have had at least 3 seperate 4wheeling trips where I have had at least two punctures in tires and didn't have a choice but to repair the puncture to get back home. This repair of Doug's is a "worst case" scenario that would come under the same situation as the story above and is a great learning experience for the group. Something alot less people feel comfortable with than I though :lecture:

John, sounds like good ideas to me. I think that basic winching techniques and spotting "communication" should be at the top of the list.

Michael

[ECKSJAY]

John, sounds like good ideas to me. I think that basic winching techniques and spotting "communication" should be at the top of the list.

Michael

Bummer you guys missed the class last year. Good stuff in that one, maybe Hans still has his notes from it.

[XJourney]

Bummer you guys missed the class last year. Good stuff in that one, maybe Hans still has his notes from it.

I don't, I loaned mine to a TTCW team mate :D But Jeremy may have his. What about you Michael, do you have one? :gee:

[Ba-Riedo]

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Bent tie rod trail repair? (or we could let Rooneypower or Mojojojo teach this one)
John

How about general repair uses with hi-lift handles.

-Alex

[Muddy Beast]

Ill also throw in a spelling class for you. I before E...:lecture:

I would also like the CB tuning and spotting class, maybe a proper winching technique with tree savers? Or is that more for noobfest?

-Alex

Ouch, now I really do feel like a noob for not knowing...

That's what happens when you've had your first Jeep for a week I guess, ehh?

[Sideshow]

It's awesome you all take the time to demonstrate this stuff.
I would like to see:
1. CB tuning
2. Hi-Lift
3. Sidewall repair
4. Tie-Rod repair

In addition:
A. Ever had a hole in your oil pan, tranny pan, gas tank? How do you fix that?
B. Track bar repair,
C. Leaf spring/u-bolt repair.
D. troubleshooting demo: what are the likely culprits if the jeep stops running, or doesn't start, or overheats, or on and on.

Just ideas

[IXNAYXJ]

D. troubleshooting demo: what are the likely culprits if the jeep stops running, or doesn't start, or overheats, or on and on.
This is a great idea.

CrankPS vs. CamPS vs. TPS vs. etc....

Maybe Avanteone could be taked into giving explanation and diagnosis tips? When I was in Utah we had a 4.0 refuse to start, similar to what happened to my rig last time at Naches (crank, but no start) and I know that's happened to many of us.

Here's a pic of us helping a crippled XJ Truggy off the trial in Utah. Two pulling, one pushing and driving it off the starter...not the best end to a day:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j160/ixnayxj/Cedar%20City%201/268.jpg

-----Matt-----

[Sideshow]

This is a great idea.

CrankPS vs. CamPS vs. TPS vs. etc....

Maybe Avanteone could be taked into giving explanation and diagnosis tips? When I was in Utah we had a 4.0 refuse to start, similar to what happened to my rig last time at Naches (crank, but no start) and I know that's happened to many of us.

Here's a pic of us helping a crippled XJ Truggy off the trial in Utah. Two pulling, one pushing and driving it off the starter...not the best end to a day:
-----Matt-----

Yes, please. I think this is the kind of stuff that can ruin a day, on or off the trail.

[ethernet]

I am up to learning anything that I can!!! Pretty new to wheeling and more knowledge the better... This has just doubled my interest in attending! Need to get my jeep running and driveable...

[Sideshow]

Guys, I was really hoping i could make it to NWfest. I would like to meet you all in person. I don't like the lack of inflection provided by meeting people in a Forum. I will have to wait for another event, maybe a M&G.
I'm in the Phillipines on a last minute trip for work and I won't make it to NW fest.
Oh well, more time to save for tires and wheels.
:cheers: