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Captain Ron

August 27th, 2006, 12:46

It didn't really live up to it's name, but Avery had some interesting breakage.

Late start, night attack on Pumpkin Eater East.

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod01.jpg

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod02.jpg

So, things were going good, right up to this pic, when I forgot that PE turns hard left after the Vee Notch. We continued straight. It didn't help that no one has been out there all summer, no tracks to follow, and I havn't run the trail in over a year.

Damn, I don't remember this obstacle being that big. :D

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod03.jpg

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod04.jpg

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod05.jpg

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod06.jpg

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod07.jpg

Avery, the reamer guy. :D

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod08.jpg

--ron

Captain Ron

August 27th, 2006, 13:10

So we get to this gigantic wall, and I realize, this is not a part of Pumkin Eater. :D

But, getting up there was alot of fun. Coming down, however, turned out to be a nail biter. Avery finished off a teaked TRE, and we had to leave him up there until morning.

And we complain about how/where the ladies park. :D

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod09.jpg

First, you go up this...

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod10.jpg

Then thru this...

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod11.jpg

Then up and thru this...

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod12.jpg

Then up this. The left line is the "easy" line. Both interns needed a winch here. I think a majority of Avery's damage occured getting up on the right.

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod13.jpg

There's another 2 waterfalls before the wall that were very difficult. But no way was I going to hike any further than the parking spot to take pics of them. Coming down this stuff was hairy.
So we sent Phil first. :D

He drove out of 2 endovers. Bryan lost a bead in a very difficult spot and drained his battery before he got down.

Fixed.

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod14.jpg

Coming down the "easy" way. I noticed that the interns changed clothes that morning back at camp, and that no one wandered off to take a dump that night. :D

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod15.jpg

So the *night run* lasted until 5:30 AM, then we went back and finished PE East, and went over to PE West and did the waterfall. Needless to say, the interns and I did not make it up to Bald Mountain. :D

Dummies in the Desert During the Day. :D

http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod16.jpg

--ron

Jump This

August 27th, 2006, 13:57

I'm a desert Rat, no question. But, not even I would be doing a run out here right now. Its not that the nights or even the mornings are bad, heck those two are the sweetest parts of the day, but you still need to contend with the 'day' part of the day. Kinda' hot still!
Glad you had fun...:D
Maybe see you at the PBB event in September?
Rick R

Captain Ron

August 27th, 2006, 14:44

...
Maybe see you at the PBB event in September?
Rick R

Yessir!

--ron

Matt S.

August 27th, 2006, 16:44

Phil drove out of two endos!? sweeeeet.

You all suck btw.

RWKHausSupply

August 27th, 2006, 18:35

so I take it that the TRE was backasswards and needed to be reamed the opposite direction? I didnt get a word back from my buddy (I called him about 7AM when we got back to camp) till about 9AM, when I got word that it was a TRE that goes on the bottom of the knuckle and would prolly need to be reamed for the DLE to go in the front side. So since it was so late and I didnt have averys #, only yours Ron, I figured you would still be passed out and just figured I would wait to read about it..

I want to thank you and the others for a great time, even if you all were later then F$#^ getting there.

seanR

August 27th, 2006, 19:10

Go find your own name, We already have that name....
We have been using that name since '04!
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31494&highlight=carnagefest

David Taylor

August 27th, 2006, 19:49

Go find your own name, We already have that name....
We have been using that name since '04!
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31494&highlight=carnagefest

Panties in a bind ? :cry:

Looks like you have a copyright on sweatfest as well.
Make up a new name!
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=60840&highlight=sweatfest

RWKHausSupply

August 27th, 2006, 19:51

Go find your own name, We already have that name....
We have been using that name since '04!
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31494&highlight=carnagefest

Wow you guys are wheeling at a Stoddard (wells that is) out there also?

Gerr

August 27th, 2006, 20:37

man how is it i live so close to where your wheeling and dont hear about it till afterwards? looks like you had a blast though

cracker

August 27th, 2006, 20:48

XJ_ranger

August 27th, 2006, 20:56

even if you all were later then F$#^ getting there.

welcome to Ron Time - Lean Manufacturing isnt just a business practice - its a way of life!

we were well on time! :D

pics in a few days once i move away from all the So*Cal Tards... http://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gifhttp://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gif

:D :D

RWKHausSupply

August 27th, 2006, 21:05

Robert you were right about the TRE. I luckily had my drill and the proper reamer so we got the TRE from AutoZone and did the mods to it back at the truck. Got it all going quick. It was nice meeting you. Thanks for trying to call.

Ron, you going to finish the story?

How was it once you got it back together? You make it the remaining 100 yards ok? Did you guys go to other trails? I really wish I could have stayed. And wheres the 1000 picts that ben took with your camera :laugh2:

Captain Ron

August 27th, 2006, 21:12

Go find your own name, We already have that name....
...

My bad. :D

--ron

PS: Stay tuned for WinterFest. :D

cracker

August 27th, 2006, 21:53

pics in a few days once i move away from all the So*Cal Tards... http://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gifhttp://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gif

Now look how uncomfortable you two are when your rear wheel is 4 feet in the air :laugh2:

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=213&timecode=632923116212343750&checkref=1

Robert, we actually got out of there and continued on to do Pumpkin Eater. We finish that section of the trail and proceed over to the first waterfall on the second portion of PE. I started my ascent and I was just spinning. I realigned myself and started up it again and my rear diff hit. As I proceeded to get my diff unstuck, we heard a big bang. Bigger than normal. We all looked and saw nothing. I then decided to start it up again and try to drive it. My front left wasn't spinning and we thought it was the hub. I winched up it and took the hub out and this piece of the alloy stub shaft came with it. The weird thing was that the alloy hub fuse didn't break and the shaft broke after it tapered large again. I was going forward with no bouncing either. We then called it a day.

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=211&timecode=632923120939062500&checkref=1

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=212&timecode=632923121599375000&checkref=1

Mr.OverKill

August 27th, 2006, 22:01

.,......... diff unstuck, we heard a big bang. Bigger than normal. We all looked and saw nothing. I then decided to start it up again and try to drive it. My front left wasn't spinning and we thought it was the hub. I winched up it and took the hub out and this piece of the alloy stub shaft came with it. The weird thing was that the alloy hub fuse didn't break and the shaft broke after it tapered large again. I was going forward with no bouncing either. We then called it a day.

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=211&timecode=632923120939062500&checkref=1

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=212&timecode=632923121599375000&checkref=1couldnt have happened to a better guy :laugh: work my a$$ off for an in and out burger then go wheelin :nono:

cracker

August 27th, 2006, 22:13

couldnt have happened to a better guy :laugh: work my a$$ off for an in and out burger then go wheelin :nono:

http://www.in-n-out.com/images/top_store_2.jpg

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Next time Mei will be home to cook us some dog :D

GSequoia

August 27th, 2006, 22:58

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=211&timecode=632923120939062500&checkref=1

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=212&timecode=632923121599375000&checkref=1

Mmmm.

Smells expensive.

cracker

August 27th, 2006, 23:13

Mmmm.

Smells expensive.

It is under warranty so I was only out the 22.99 for a new TRE.

cracker

August 27th, 2006, 23:46

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=214&timecode=632923190211875000&checkref=1

Captain Ron

August 27th, 2006, 23:52

Dude, that's a great shot. I want a copy.

I can almost hear Phil. "Ah, yea. Put the SoCal guys in the back". :D

--ron

XJ_ranger

August 28th, 2006, 09:20

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=214&timecode=632923190211875000&checkref=1

wow...

it looks really bright out to be ending a night run...

:D :D

HaleYes

August 28th, 2006, 09:58

Go find your own name, We already have that name....
We have been using that name since '04!
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31494&highlight=carnagefest

Let it go Sean. I really find it no surprise that others are trying to model themselves after the MWC. After all, the MWC is the Premier Chapter of NAXJA.....we all know that.

I suspect we will see alot more of this "modeling" in the future.

:wave1:

Paul S

August 28th, 2006, 11:06

It is under warranty so I was only out the 22.99 for a new TRE.

Did you figure out what brand that stub is?

Paul

cracker

August 28th, 2006, 11:16

Did you figure out what brand that stub is?

Paul

Currie Performance 4340. Supposedly forged at the same factory as Superiors.

I still want Lockwoods opinion.

MIKE, YOU OUT THERE?

:D

RWKHausSupply

August 28th, 2006, 12:46

Currie Performance 4340. Supposedly forged at the same factory as Superiors.

I still want Lockwoods opinion.

MIKE, YOU OUT THERE?

:D

I will say that from past experience with Currie on a 9" with thier axles. When I went to assemble it, they looked to be very poor QC, as one ear was significantly larger and such.

cracker

August 28th, 2006, 12:49

I will say that from past experience with Currie on a 9" with thier axles. When I went to assemble it, they looked to be very poor QC, as one ear was significantly larger and such.

Actually, this seemed to be fine as far as all the dimensions but evidently something has to be wrong with it cuz the way it broke.

Paul S

August 28th, 2006, 13:06

Actually, this seemed to be fine as far as all the dimensions but evidently something has to be wrong with it cuz the way it broke.

Why does it have 2 extra snap ring grooves? Looks like it broke right at the inside groove.

Paul

cracker

August 28th, 2006, 13:08

Why does it have 2 extra snap ring grooves? Looks like it broke right at the inside groove.

Paul

Yes it did break at the inside groove

I don't know. Actually the width of those grooves are the same with as a drive flange I have but I don't know if that is why though.

-Avery

Jump This

August 28th, 2006, 17:49

http://beta.propichosting.com/FileHandler.ashx?pa=501326&sub=214&timecode=632923190211875000&checkref=1

I can't WAIT for my Jeep to look like that!

Captain Ron

August 28th, 2006, 17:54

...
MIKE, YOU OUT THERE?

:D

Give him a few days. He's on the phone alot.. been on hold with India. :D

--ron

Mike L

August 28th, 2006, 18:31

Currie Performance 4340. Supposedly forged at the same factory as Superiors.

I still want Lockwoods opinion.

MIKE, YOU OUT THERE?

:D

Opinion on what? Why it broke? Cause it's a POS. :laugh2: Are you running Ford hubs? I assume so since you have a Ford stub. Is there any markings on the ears of the yoke: either stamped in or raised above? Go 30-spline or go home. :moon:

-Mike

RWKHausSupply

August 29th, 2006, 11:49

still wondering where the rest of those hundreds of picts ended up ...

You holding the ones where you had to winch others for a time better suited? :callme:

cracker

August 29th, 2006, 11:53

still wondering where the rest of those hundreds of picts ended up ...

You holding the ones where you had to winch others for a time better suited? :callme:

I haven't had time :shocked:

I had to pull my axle apart and yank my TC

Maybe in the next couple of days.

-Avery

Goatman

August 29th, 2006, 12:58

Actually, this seemed to be fine as far as all the dimensions but evidently something has to be wrong with it cuz the way it broke.

Why does something have to be wrong with it for it to break?

37's.....right? :dunno:

Runnin' with the big dogs........... :yelclap: :yelclap: :repair: :repair:

:D

cracker

August 29th, 2006, 13:16

Why does something have to be wrong with it for it to break?

37's.....right? :dunno:

Runnin' with the big dogs........... :yelclap: :yelclap: :repair: :repair:

:D

A 4340 shaft on an alloy hub fuse broken above the taper? Looks fishy to me.

Hey, I haven't seen you break that way. :kissyou:

cracker

August 29th, 2006, 13:22

Opinion on what? Why it broke? Cause it's a POS. :laugh2: Are you running Ford hubs? I assume so since you have a Ford stub. Is there any markings on the ears of the yoke: either stamped in or raised above? Go 30-spline or go home. :moon:

-Mike

I am running Ford rotors on Chevy/FSJ spindles and Chevy/FSJ stubs.

No markings on the ears but some numbers on the shaft (6122 <f> 07 03).

Currie says they are forged in the same factory as Superior though and they are 4340 :dunno:

XJ_ranger

August 29th, 2006, 13:22

still wondering where the rest of those hundreds of picts ended up ...

You holding the ones where you had to winch others for a time better suited? :callme:
dont you remember what I said?

'night runs are for wheeling, not showing your friends that you went wheeling'

:D :D

http://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gif http://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gif http://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gif

RWKHausSupply

August 29th, 2006, 13:25

dont you remember what I said?

'night runs are for wheeling, not showing your friends that you went wheeling'

:D :D

http://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gif http://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gif http://www.midwestxj.org/forum/images/smilies/flipoff.gif

Yeah but its hard to justify to the wife Why I was out with a bunch of guys till dawn.. So this may make her feel a bit more at ease lol......

XJ_ranger

August 29th, 2006, 13:30

Yeah but its hard to justify to the wife Why I was out with a bunch of guys till dawn.. So this may make her feel a bit more at ease lol......
lol

:confused1

:D

Mike L

August 29th, 2006, 14:44

I am running Ford rotors on Chevy/FSJ spindles and Chevy/FSJ stubs.

No markings on the ears but some numbers on the shaft (6122 <f> 07 03).

Currie says they are forged in the same factory as Superior though and they are 4340 :dunno:

6122 is Superior's part number for the GM 19 spline stubs, the F in the triangle is for Foote Axle & Gear (Superior's parent company) and 07 03 is the date of manufacture, July 2003.

-Mike

cracker

August 29th, 2006, 15:03

6122 is Superior's part number for the GM 19 spline stubs, the F in the triangle is for Foote Axle & Gear (Superior's parent company) and 07 03 is the date of manufacture, July 2003.

-Mike

Thanks Mike,

What is the standard warranty on that stuff?

-Avery

XJ_ranger

August 29th, 2006, 16:41

got my pics off the camera...

but all are from daylight - when we stayed clear of Shit Eater...

Phil just after getting through Vee Notch -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5830.jpg

man - that looks kinda broken -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5835.jpg

The booty fab king himself! -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5836.jpg

Ben Holding Avery's ass on the ground - Marine style! -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5843.jpginteresting to note that avery is coming down the 'easy' way on the left in this pic -
http://www.liracon.com/ron/post/stod13.jpg

yeah - we all drove up this... Interns included -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5857.jpg

Ron at the waterfal on East Canyon -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5864.jpg

annnnnd up!
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5865.jpg

avery nose up...
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5867.jpg

hmmm this pose looks fermiliar... just instead of Scrappy, and Brett... there are people who's rigs were on that trail....
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5871.jpg

almost makes it!
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5875.jpg

then some cool carnage -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5877.jpg

It is Obligatory -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5880.jpg

my biggest carnage from the trip -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/img_5886.jpg

all of my pics here -
http://www.opiebennett.com/images/Jeep/StoddardValley82506/index3.html

total carnage by rig:
Ron - Dents in the ever decreasing remaining sheetmetal...
Avery - Steering Joint, Reamer, Alloy Stub, Hose line on the Vair compressor
Phil - Passenger side door glass... more dents...
Me - blown bead, dead battery, tail light, more dents...

XJ_ranger

August 29th, 2006, 16:42

and because you are limited to 14 pictures per post (smilies count), and I didnt want to delete any of thoes -

:D :D :D :D

cracker

August 29th, 2006, 16:47

So...how did you break your tail light? :D

Mike L

August 29th, 2006, 20:37

Thanks Mike,

What is the standard warranty on that stuff?

-Avery

Before: One year.
Now: Supposedly LIFETIME. :shhh:

BTW, is the side that broke, the same one that had the hub seize on you before? :kissyou:

-Mike

BrettM

August 29th, 2006, 21:00

phil has (had) door glass?

Matt S.

August 29th, 2006, 21:33

phil has (had) door glass?

thats what I was thinking. :wierd:

cracker

August 29th, 2006, 23:05

Before: One year.
Now: Supposedly LIFETIME. :shhh:

BTW, is the side that broke, the same one that had the hub seize on you before? :kissyou:

-Mike

Actually yes.

It was the wheel bearings that partially seized. I finished up the Rubicon Trail with Remi and the bunch, threw it on a trailer, and brought it home. I unloaded it and didn't touch it for 3 weeks. I had it on jack stands (cuz I am a web wheeler) and was walking by and spun the wheel and it didn't want to turn easily. I walked to the other side and it turned fine. I think the water crossings on the Rubicon and letting it sit for 3 weeks was the issue. The outer bearing was dry and slightly covered in surface rust. I revived it easily with grease and now carry it as a trail spare. Since I caught it before using it again, I suppose that was not the issue. Anyway, it was the wheel bearing, not the spindle bearing. The spindle bearing had plenty of grease.

Who should I contact? Foote Axle & Gear if Currie doesn't?

-Avery