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January 6th, 2003, 13:43
I'm going to make a trip to the Rubicon this year (from Missouri). I wanted to know if anyone had a link, website, or general information on the Rubicon. Best time to go, trail information, GPS coordinates, camping/lodging prior and after trail ride, 4x4 shops in the area, etc, etc.

Thank you in advance.

Eric
2MUD-IN
Midwest Jeepthing
95 XJ/10" lift/36 TSL/Atlas 4.3/HP front 9" 35 spline/9" rear 35 spline/4.88s/locked both ends/long arms/rear coils
CRASH
January 6th, 2003, 15:16
Best thing to do is work it out with one of us. We wouldn't want you to hit the Rubicon without the full Sierra Chapter tour. 8)

Seriously, there are three trails in the area worth your attention. Get in touch with one of us, and we'll be happy to give you the tour. (I live very close to the trail).

CRASH
January 6th, 2003, 19:51
CRASH, in my opinion, you are lucky to be so close to the Rubicon. Actually, I have travelled California from Frisco to LA, and loved it...did the whole HWY 1 experience over a weeks period, went hiking, etc, etc. Really enjoyed it. I rented a Mustang for the curvey roads, but the entire time I kept kicking myself for not having my XJ.

ANYWAY, back to my original purpose to posting this topic...

A couple of us want to come out and do the Rubicon, and hit a trail or two in Moab on the way home. Not a large group, but maybe 3-5 of us. We all have built rigs, and one is an ASE Certified Mechanic (always good to have one of those around on the trail :lol: ) The smallest rig would have a 6" lift with 33's and dual ARB's. I don't want to make the group too big as it is VERY hard to coordinate more than 5 peeps travelling 2000 miles to go wheeling.

Our biggest question - what is the best time of year to come? We really would like to come around the end of May, beginning of June, but what is the weather like at that time of year?

Any and all info is appreciated. Shoot me your email addy so I can keep it on file for future reference....thanks.

Eric.
xj2mudin@hotmail.com
CRASH
January 6th, 2003, 20:06
I would love to show you guys around. June is better because we could maybe get into Barrett Lake. Snow can be an issue in May (especially in an El Nino year like this one) We could certainly do the Rubicon and Fordyce, which are about the two most scenic and challenging trails in California.

Jes and I (and Sean if he's not broken :mrgreen: ) run about every other weekend, so there would be no trouble scheduling something. Rubicon takes a couple of days to enjoy thoroughly (maybe even three if you want to play in the sluices a bit), and Barrett is one day in, one day out. Fordyce can be run all the way through in about 10 hours with a small group.

We were thinking of organizing a Sierra Chapter run to these trails this summer, so maybe we could coordinate with that and you could meet all the West coast legends like Jes, Sean, Goatman, Paul Sinclair, Erik, Mil, etc. :roll:

Whatever the turnout, I guarantee a good time will be had by all.

afecko@waterrights.swrcb.ca.gov

CRASH
SeanP
January 6th, 2003, 21:15
I'm in (as long as your here before mid July, baby #1 on the way). We have been talking about having a nice XJ tour of our 3 local trails, but haven't announced a big weeklong deal because of BOTW2 and Moab 20 anniversary party in October.

Just tell us when you are thinking and we'll be there to tour guide. Avoid 4th of July weekend, it will be a zoo.

SeanP
Gary E
January 8th, 2003, 09:12
Man, I didn't make the legends list again :cry:
January 8th, 2003, 09:21
LOL :D

I'll keep in touch with you guys. Looking to come in June with a small group...small groups travel better over the trail. Sound good? Weather okay then?

Eric
2MUD-IN
Midwest Jeepthing
95 XJ/10" lift/36 TSL/Atlas 4.3/HP front 9" 35 spline/9" rear 35 spline/4.88s/locked both ends/long arms/rear coils.
SeanP
January 8th, 2003, 09:23
[quote:9d2c9ea127="Gary E"]Man, I didn't make the legends list again :cry:[/quote:9d2c9ea127]

It;s those off brand tires that you run Gary. You need to get some MTR's to run with the cool crowd ;)

June is a perfect time of year. Most of the snow should be metled. Barrett might not be open yet, or it might be. Con will be fine.

SeanP
January 8th, 2003, 10:14
If we ran all three trails, how many days should we allocate to wheeling?

Thanks.
SeanP
January 8th, 2003, 10:28
6 days
FarmerMatt
January 8th, 2003, 10:34
Don't worry about it Gary, I didn't make it either & I run the right brand of tire. :roll:

Matt
SeanP
January 8th, 2003, 10:52
Matt, you're just too much of a p***y to make the LONG drive from Fresno! Do you even wheel that XJ????!!!?
CRASH
January 8th, 2003, 11:37
Ever since he temporarily lost his son, I've dropped him off the "legends" list.

:mrgreen:

CRASH
FarmerMatt
January 8th, 2003, 12:16
I cruz the speed bumps at the local Home Depot regularly. I don't even want to talk about that incident with my son. Talk about a parents worst nightmare. :shock:

Matt
FarmerMatt
January 8th, 2003, 12:28
The snow gets pretty deep at the local Fresno Home Depot. 8)

[img:f75dcba445]http://home.earthlink.net/~pigie/_uimages/Snow.jpg[/img:f75dcba445]

Now get off your butt Sean & get that rig back together.

Matt
SeanP
January 8th, 2003, 12:31
Nice. They sell those yellow things on your hood at home depot. Rig should be back together by the end of the month.

SeanP
CRASH
January 8th, 2003, 16:06
Matt,

That came out sort of wrong, sorry about that.

Note to self: Engage brain before typing.......

CRASH
FarmerMatt
January 8th, 2003, 18:46
No worries... I took it the right way. If we can't laugh at what happens to us in life than we should already be dead. I know I don't have many people signing up for the FarmerMatt Day Care. :D

Matt
January 8th, 2003, 19:39
6 days...mmmm...what can we do in 4 days?

I plan to be gone for 9-10 days. It will take 5-6 days just to get out there, especially if we trailer.

Maybe I'll get out there and not come back. I could always call the wife and tell her a moving company is coming to pick her up and our belongings :lol:

Anyway, 4 days will get us where?

Eric.
January 9th, 2003, 00:04
I would say Con and Barrett, What are the water flows on Fordyce like in May/june Andy?
CRASH
January 9th, 2003, 05:26
In a year like this, we'd likely need a barge to cross the first two streams. But if everyone doesn't mind a little adventure, there are ways across. :mrgreen:

We can do Barrett and Con, unless the gate isn't open on Barrett. Usually it's not open until July because the USFS likes to prevent erosion problems up there.

We can play it by ear and keep an eye on www.dreamflows.com

Any which way, a good time will be had by all!

CRASH
January 9th, 2003, 15:16
I am doing a little research on the Rubicon and have printed out some good information. I have found information on the Fordyce trail as well. However, I cannot find anything on the Barrett trail everyone keeps referring to. Is this trail commonly known as something else?

I want to put some info packets together for the guys that are coming along with me. I want to make sure they know what we are doing, where we are going, and what to expect.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Eric
2MUD-IN
Midwest Jeepthing
95 XJ/10" lift/36 TSL/Atlas 4.3/HP front 9" 35 spline/9" rear 35 spline/4.88s/locked both ends/long arms/rear coils
January 9th, 2003, 15:22
Are you guys going to be able to do this in the middle of the week? I figured this was the best time to do the Rubicon...less people on the trail. Plus, if we leave Friday night after work, we should be there late Sunday night.

Eric
2MUD-IN
Midwest Jeepthing
95 XJ/10" lift/36 TSL/Atlas 4.3/HP front 9" 35 spline/9" rear 35 spline/4.88s/locked both ends/long arms/rear coils
CRASH
January 9th, 2003, 16:10
I think some of us could run during the week, at least part of the week, anyway. My job is very unpredictable in nature, so I won't know what my schedule will be like until like a month before hand. I generally have Friday's off, though.

You will not find much on Barrett, and people in the know will tell you the trail is closed.

It is not closed.

There is a very concerted effort by people who love this trail to keep it VERY low key. I can tell you exactly where it is on a map, and how to get there (it's in the same general area as the 'Con) if you want to know.

It is a very difficult trail that requires 33's at least, and one good locker. The rocks are different up there, much larger, more rounded rocks than you find on the 'Con. The trail begins at the aforementioned gate at Wrights Lake and it ends at Barrett Lake which sits at about 8500 ft in elevation. The lake itself sits at the edge of the wilderness area, so there are very few people around. This is not a loop trail, there is one way in and one way out.

It is very fun.

CRASH
ChuckD
January 9th, 2003, 18:47
http://www.naxja.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=682

Remember Gary's twisted Drive Shaft
Gary E
January 9th, 2003, 21:13
And here is one on the Fordyce trip.

http://www.naxja.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=525&highlight=fordyce
January 9th, 2003, 22:21
Thanks for the links. After looking at these pics, I want to move this trip up...to like...next week :)

I look forward to seeing some of you guys in June.

Eric
2MUD-IN
Midwest Jeepthing
95 XJ/10" lift/36 TSL/Atlas 4.3/HP front 9" 35 spline/9" rear 35 spline/4.88s/locked both ends/long arms/rear coils