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IXNAYXJ
August 25th, 2006, 12:22
Best guesses?

I say 36 and living in his parents basement. Or it's several different people.

Thoughts?

-----Matt-----

jeepinxj01
August 25th, 2006, 12:27
...


Off-Topic, this is the 4th thread (that I've seen, don't know about the den) about this fawktard. It is humerous though.

I say late teens/early 20's if you're askin' everyone in general.

DaJudge
August 25th, 2006, 12:47
Off-Topic, this is the 4th thread (that I've seen, don't know about the den) about this fawktard. It is humerous though.

I say late teens/early 20's if you're askin' everyone in general.

Probably! Dropped out of high school because he was too smart for those idiots.

Lives at home...(he already admitted he gets bitched at for being a lazy bum).

And all of you educated people on NAXJA (especially Beej) are stupid as well. :confused1

jeepinxj01
August 25th, 2006, 12:53
Lives at home...(he already admitted he gets bitched at for being a lazy bum)


Where did I miss that?

dzolcali
August 25th, 2006, 13:45
I live in my own apartment...21...no guess work there. sorry to kill the thread for those of you with high hopes of starting more trash talk.

XJ_Vikings
August 25th, 2006, 13:54
I live in my own apartment...21...no guess work there. sorry to kill the thread for those of you with high hopes of starting more trash talk.

i claim BS, i say 17 with a bad case of acne and headgear

DaJudge
August 25th, 2006, 13:56
Where did I miss that?

Somewhere in this ranting...

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=876395&postcount=208

streetpirate
August 25th, 2006, 14:43
i seem to get this image in my head of some 15 year old sitting on the computer drinking dew and eating cheeze wiz.

...and I did have a ricer it was very fast, not like those slow hondas you see buzzing around.

And I do wrench on my rides...I lowered my s10, I put an exhaust manifold, exhaust pipe, fitted a full fiberglass and polyurethane body kit on a talon tsi awd, installed boost gauges, egt gauges, many of other things, i repaired the front end of my jeep and banged out all the mounting brackets...I just repaired a ford aspires entire front end, including radiator, tail lights, headlights, pulled metal out, corner lights, bumper, and hood and hinges...


I'm not an idiot


leave me alone...K thanks

(i pulled 3/4 out of that last one, but i can assure you, its was still only one sentance.




saddest part is, i dont think that he's an idiot at all, but
If he isnt, he is sure going out of his way to sound like one.





ok, here it is.

when I post a question here, i pretend that im walking into a room
filled with people who have 30+ years of experience in the topic,
and that i want to sound intellegent, give as much info as possible,
and be polite and respectful. Then maybe, just maybe, those people will gain
enough respect for me that they will give me the best answer to my question
and want to answer my questions in the future.
SP

Rev Den
August 25th, 2006, 15:11
Older and more intelligent than the "deer".

:D

Rev

TRNDRVR
August 25th, 2006, 17:43
Best guesses?

I say 36 and living in his parents basement. Or it's several different people.

Thoughts?

-----Matt-----I wouldn't want to guess, but I Googled his name and here's a picture I found of him. I forget, but I think it was something like MyFreak, or Space somethin........
http://media.shtoink.com/media/pics.funny/fixingmycomputer.jpg
Maybe 18? :dunno:

IXNAYXJ
August 25th, 2006, 17:59
I wouldn't want to guess, but I Googled his name and here's a picture I found of him. I forget, but I think it was something like MyFreak, or Space somethin........
http://media.shtoink.com/media/pics.funny/fixingmycomputer.jpg
Maybe 18? :dunno:BWAHAHAHA!!! That's classic!

Glad we solved that mystery. Thanks goodness for Google. :D

-----Matt-----

shortxjdoug
August 25th, 2006, 18:04
I wouldn't want to guess, but I Googled his name and here's a picture I found of him. I forget, but I think it was something like MyFreak, or Space somethin........
http://media.shtoink.com/media/pics.funny/fixingmycomputer.jpg
Maybe 18? :dunno:
he's gettin the fans out of all those computers to build a MEGA electric supercharger....

MogifiedXJ
August 25th, 2006, 18:19
he's gettin the fans out of all those computers to build a MEGA electric supercharger....

:laugh:

Matt S.
August 25th, 2006, 19:02
I wouldn't want to guess, but I Googled his name and here's a picture I found of him. I forget, but I think it was something like MyFreak, or Space somethin........
http://media.shtoink.com/media/pics.funny/fixingmycomputer.jpg
Maybe 18? :dunno:


Whoa Whoa Whoa!!! I figured it out! Dzorizzlecock is Beej's evil twin!

MogifiedXJ
August 25th, 2006, 19:05
Whoa Whoa Whoa!!! I figured it out! Dzorizzlecock is Beej's retarded twin!

Fixed http://www.naxja.org/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

TRNDRVR
August 25th, 2006, 19:07
Whoa Whoa Whoa!!! I figured it out! Dzorizzlecock is Beej's evil twin!I call that recycling. :D

Timber
August 31st, 2006, 21:55
i dont think that he's an idiot at all, but
If he isnt, he is sure going out of his way to sound like one.

(. . .)

when I post a question here, i pretend that im walking into a room
filled with people who have 30+ years of experience in the topic,
and that i want to sound intellegent, give as much info as possible,
and be polite and respectful. Then maybe, just maybe, those people will gain
enough respect for me that they will give me the best answer to my question
and want to answer my questions in the future.
SP
I just started following this dzocali (or whatever) stuff, and I agree with you. I get the impression he kind of knows what he's talking about, but he has some kind of verbal dysentery.

As for the second part I quoted, well put. Essentially, that's how I try to treat the forum, too.

Chero-King
August 31st, 2006, 21:57
Ahhh, you just had to dig up another dead thread about him didn't ya?
:D

dzolcali
August 31st, 2006, 22:08
by all this resurection I should be a cast in the next zombie movie :)

RyanM
August 31st, 2006, 22:46
im way late but since it's revived, he is just high when he posts...

dzol cali- Diesel Cali - some people talk it up drunk, or what have you.

carry on

Beej
September 1st, 2006, 10:18
he's twenny-bajillion...

dzolcali
September 1st, 2006, 11:00
dzol is a group i'm in said like diesel.good call on that...california is the last part...LOL I post drunk or high depends on my mood. Mispelled words=drunk
randomness=high or not high depends but it has been weeks since i've done that

Lawn Cher'
September 1st, 2006, 11:34
LOL I post drunk or high depends on my mood

And you want to be taken seriously.:confused:

RTicUL8
September 1st, 2006, 11:46
Almost reminds me of the bot.

What was her name?

The replies that you would get were bizarre.

Lawn Cher'
September 1st, 2006, 12:01
Almost reminds me of the bot.

What was her name?

The replies that you would get were bizarre.

Shawna.

RTicUL8
September 1st, 2006, 12:07
Shawna.

That was it.

So she must of have been either drunk or high when posting.:cheers:

OT
September 1st, 2006, 13:02
That was it.

So she must of have been either drunk or high when posting.:cheers:
Or when she conceived Diesel.

dzolcali
September 1st, 2006, 19:52
LOL....Ok I reneg on what i said ...haha going to the strip club tonite, should be pretty interesting hehe

RyanM
September 1st, 2006, 20:03
u might lose your virginity! take a lot of ones!

UNCC_99XJ
September 1st, 2006, 20:25
I just started following this dzocali (or whatever) stuff, and I agree with you. I get the impression he kind of knows what he's talking about, but he has some kind of verbal dysentery.

As for the second part I quoted, well put. Essentially, that's how I try to treat the forum, too.

X2

However, I am enjoying these threads!

Lawn Cher'
September 5th, 2006, 06:39
LOL....Ok I reneg on what i said ...haha going to the strip club tonite, should be pretty interesting hehe

So how was the club? Did the clientele enjoy your act?

dzolcali
September 5th, 2006, 08:53
haha...was good, I can't help but laugh at the guys who are like..."hey can I get your phone number" and then the chick is like..."oh sure your cute, 499-844-5999" and your like omg what a BS number and the dude is all putting it in his phone..(happened like two times that night at the table next to us)

but yeah anyways hot girls, bad ass music and booze what more can you ask for at a club?

IcedXJ
September 5th, 2006, 08:57
haha...was good, I can't help but laugh at the guys who are like..."hey can I get your phone number" and then the chick is like..."oh sure your cute, 499-844-5999" and your like omg what a BS number and the dude is all putting it in his phone..(happened like two times that night at the table next to us)

but yeah anyways hot girls, bad ass music and booze what more can you ask for at a club?
:party1:

oh wait




How about a real story? :dunno:

muduck18
September 5th, 2006, 09:28
How about a real story? :dunno:
... Girls? what girls?





On a differnt note. I have a fair amount of respect for Dzolcali, usually when people are this mean to someone that person gets pissed off and never returns..
DZ has been entertaining us for a while.

21 or not, I would offer him a beer... and the phone number of an english tutor.
Cheers:cheers:

IcedXJ
September 5th, 2006, 09:29
... Girls? what girls?





On a differnt note. I have a fair amount of respect for Dzolcali, usually when people are this mean to someone that person gets pissed off and never returns..
DZ has been entertaining us for a while.

21 or not, I would offer him a beer... and the phone number of an english tutor.
Cheers:cheers:

Ya he has done well. I still am a skeptic, lol.

HaleYes
September 5th, 2006, 09:38
haha...was good, I can't help but laugh at the guys who are like..."hey can I get your phone number" and then the chick is like..."oh sure your cute, 499-844-5999" and your like omg what a BS number and the dude is all putting it in his phone..(happened like two times that night at the table next to us)

but yeah anyways hot girls, bad ass music and booze what more can you ask for at a club?

SPOBI
Dude.

I tried that number and it has been disco'd ...........like a swaybar.
:bs:

IcedXJ
September 5th, 2006, 09:40
I love it when kids try to act like they are older than they claim.

HaleYes
September 5th, 2006, 09:48
I love it when kids try to act like they are older than they claim.

No....

You don' think......

Nooo......

Get outta here.

:wierd:

IcedXJ
September 5th, 2006, 13:56
No....

You don' think......

Nooo......

Get outta here.

:wierd:
:viking:, wait was that at me, WHY :dunno:

I am gonna have a beer on that note...

HaleYes
September 5th, 2006, 15:20
:viking:, wait was that at me, WHY :dunno:

I am gonna have a beer on that note...
Nope not at you.

Basically I was saying, "You don't think he's pulling one over on us do you?"

Fazolli wouldn't do that...would he?

I mean everyone is who they say they are on the internet, right?
:geek:

UNCC_99XJ
September 5th, 2006, 19:08
Nope not at you.

Basically I was saying, "You don't think he's pulling one over on us do you?"

Fazolli wouldn't do that...would he?

I mean everyone is who they say they are on the internet, right?
:geek:

You're right...there's absolutely NO reason to believe people might actually be out to hurt you on the internet! You should also believe everything you read about too, b/c everybody is correct no matter what the topic or opinion.

dzolcali
September 5th, 2006, 21:23
I'm turning 22 this week :). Also I'm f*cking pissed...lost my l7 slvr today at school, tons of pics of girls, movies, phone numbers and mp3's plus my 512mb transflash car all gone...some d*ck head picked it up 5 seconds after I walked away, I realized walked back and he was gone with my phone...turned it off and won't pick up to give it back...basically he stole it a few minutes after I left my chair and realized it fell outta my pocket. Some people said he asked whose it was then said he was going to find out and walked away...then he just took that shit. ARghh, I was driving 80 ont he highway with my back wheel wobbling the whole way home just waiting to hit something that cut me off...Then cingular tells me, well what we can do for you is sell you your phone back at the regular price 369 dollars...I bought the damn thing for 100 on sale! Thats BS I think i'm going to buy outta my contract with those f'tards and find another service cingular blows nutz for qaurters. Ok so a friend and I are trying to build a police proof vehicle hypothetically with infinate money kinda... we want it to be bullet proof, have two motors, hydrogen powered, with an air to water converter to supply the fuel, that way we don't run outta fuel. Then we want tank treads so they can't be shot out, and a few other gadgets to keep the police and choppers from catching us. :) any input?

oh yeah happy bday to me

MogifiedXJ
September 5th, 2006, 21:26
Ok so a friend and I are trying to build a police proof vehicle hypothetically with infinate money kinda... we want it to be bullet proof, have two motors, hydrogen powered, with an air to water converter to supply the fuel, that way we don't run outta fuel. Then we want tank treads so they can't be shot out, and a few other gadgets to keep the police and choppers from catching us. :) any input?

Man your really starting to troll way to hard...

Timber
September 5th, 2006, 21:28
Here ya go, Dipshite. http://www.mattracks.com/
EDIT: Oh, yeah. I forgot this one. http://www.stopabductions.com/

Beej
September 5th, 2006, 21:34
Well to be fair, he was one of the best trolls I've come across. Now he's just transparent...

dzolcali
September 5th, 2006, 21:42
you guys can be d*cks sometimes...I'm going through a rough time in my life and I kinda think of this as an outlet, aside from my phone being stolen, school and work are 24/7, social life is at a minimum right now, ex gf is crazy, sister went psycho and attacked me the other day(can't do anything cause she is a girl) then she took my bass guitar intot he parking lot to smash it up. I'm broke as well...and my work is trying to screw me over right now....I just want to flip out on someone, in fact I'm just waiting for someone to just push that red button, so that I can just flip out and do something I will regret later but will bring instant stress relief. forget it, I'm talking to a wall

MogifiedXJ
September 5th, 2006, 21:49
ex gf is crazy, my sister went psycho

The crazy ones are always the best...


























so is your sister hot???

Matt S.
September 5th, 2006, 21:50
The crazy ones are always the best...


























so is your sister hot???

Beej
September 5th, 2006, 21:57
Lies, lies and more lies. Not quite as entertaining as before. Less troll now, a bit more kook (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kook_%28person%29)...

IcedXJ
September 5th, 2006, 22:04
you guys can be d*cks sometimes...I'm going through a rough time in my life and I kinda think of this as an outlet, aside from my phone being stolen, school and work are 24/7, social life is at a minimum right now, ex gf is crazy, sister went psycho and attacked me the other day(can't do anything cause she is a girl) then she took my bass guitar intot he parking lot to smash it up. I'm broke as well...and my work is trying to screw me over right now....I just want to flip out on someone, in fact I'm just waiting for someone to just push that red button, so that I can just flip out and do something I will regret later but will bring instant stress relief. forget it, I'm talking to a wall

why do you continue to troll then? If ya have issues then you have issues. You want a you are f'ed in the head party? :party: you say you are 22, and you act 12, so man grow up...and stop trolling...:viking:

OT
September 5th, 2006, 22:49
Well to be fair, he was one of the best trolls I've come across. Now he's just transparent...
Absolutely.:thumbup:

Matt S.
September 5th, 2006, 23:09
Absolutely.:thumbup:


x2 sadly. cant believe he is good at something

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 07:27
you guys can be d*cks sometimes...I'm going through a rough time in my life and I kinda think of this as an outlet, aside from my phone being stolen, school and work are 24/7, social life is at a minimum right now, ex gf is crazy, sister went psycho and attacked me the other day(can't do anything cause she is a girl) then she took my bass guitar intot he parking lot to smash it up. I'm broke as well...and my work is trying to screw me over right now....I just want to flip out on someone, in fact I'm just waiting for someone to just push that red button, so that I can just flip out and do something I will regret later but will bring instant stress relief. forget it, I'm talking to a wall

Walk it off, Francis. Be a man, grow up, take responsibility for your actions, and quit whining to a fawking internet Jeep club. Hasta

UNCC_99XJ
September 6th, 2006, 08:49
you guys can be d*cks sometimes...I'm going through a rough time in my life and I kinda think of this as an outlet, aside from my phone being stolen, school and work are 24/7, social life is at a minimum right now, ex gf is crazy, sister went psycho and attacked me the other day(can't do anything cause she is a girl) then she took my bass guitar intot he parking lot to smash it up. I'm broke as well...and my work is trying to screw me over right now....I just want to flip out on someone, in fact I'm just waiting for someone to just push that red button, so that I can just flip out and do something I will regret later but will bring instant stress relief. forget it, I'm talking to a wall

Newsflash: That's REALITY!

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 11:44
haha...fixed my problems today. SAw the dude messing with my phone in the same damn place I lost it at...walked up and took it out his hands, said I think this belongs to me. He looked confused and then tried to grab it back...so I jacked his head up against the wall...punch to the forehead (right hook with a full body twist and a toe pivot) just like my boxing teacher tells me to do...rocked his noggin. Anwyays some girl screams and I say "Taking my XXXXing shit XXXX you man"...then walked off...
haven't heard anything about it.

jeepinxj01
September 6th, 2006, 11:53
haha...fixed my problems today. SAw the dude messing with my phone in the same damn place I lost it at...walked up and took it out his hands, said I think this belongs to me. He looked confused and then tried to grab it back...so I jacked his head up against the wall...punch to the forehead (right hook with a full body twist and a toe pivot) just like my boxing teacher tells me to do...rocked his noggin. Anwyays some girl screams and I say "Taking my XXXXing shit XXXX you man"...then walked off...
haven't heard anything about it.


W.W.C.N.D.?

What Would Chuck Norris Do. I find your stories hard to believe. I call...... :bs: until I see pictures or a video of you doing this to an actual person instead of a pillow in your bedroom.

Skullver
September 6th, 2006, 11:53
haha...fixed my problems today. SAw the dude messing with my phone in the same damn place I lost it at...walked up and took it out his hands, said I think this belongs to me. He looked confused and then tried to grab it back...so I jacked his head up against the wall...punch to the forehead (right hook with a full body twist and a toe pivot) just like my boxing teacher tells me to do...rocked his noggin. Anwyays some girl screams and I say "Taking my XXXXing shit XXXX you man"...then walked off...
haven't heard anything about it.
I guess good thing you got your phone back, one less thing to cry about, have fun in jail:)

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 11:57
how you gonna call B.S.? I've been boxing at the gym for two years now...I have contenders bag gloves with top contenders hand wraps...I even have a spar partner twice my size. sometimes I wish you guys weren't so black and white about things...I mean lets talk about "super position", that sounds like fun to me.

jeepinxj01
September 6th, 2006, 11:59
how you gonna call B.S.? I've been boxing at the gym for two years now...I have contenders bag gloves with top contenders hand wraps...I even have a spar partner twice my size. sometimes I wish you guys weren't so black and white about things...I mean lets talk about "super position", that sounds like fun to me.


You remind me of a kid I went to high school with. He claimed he was a boxer and was your basic fawktard (see the pattern here?) Anyway, he'd do and say anything just to get people to pay attention to him. Got him in a lot of trouble and everyone really hated him cause he was such a tard. Again....see the pattern here? :kissyou:

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:00
how you gonna call B.S.? I've been boxing at the gym for two years now...I have contenders bag gloves with top contenders hand wraps...I even have a spar partner twice my size. sometimes I wish you guys weren't so black and white about things...I mean lets talk about "super position", that sounds like fun to me.
I think you are trying to hard. Perhaps you need to tone it back some, it was easier to believe when you did not try so hard.

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:05
LOL...ok ICED bling blinged out xj...you got me, all that was made up. Damn, you guys are just too smooth...It was so easy to fondle everyones minds in my earlier days but now you guys are just getting too keen for me. I guess I will retire and go back to highschool and be that guy that tries too hard to get attention.

aside from that, for those interested and not absorbed with trying to defame the infamous dzol...what are your opinions on Time...I don't believe in Time...and I have a lot of good reasons why it doesn't exist. Will anyonez callz me out on it so Iz canz explainz what ima talkin about.z

Skullver
September 6th, 2006, 12:08
LOL...ok ICED bling blinged out xj...you got me, all that was made up. Damn, you guys are just too smooth...It was so easy to fondle everyones minds in my earlier days but now you guys are just getting too keen for me. I guess I will retire and go back to highschool and be that guy that tries too hard to get attention.

aside from that, for those interested and not absorbed with trying to defame the infamous dzol...what are your opinions on Time...I don't believe in Time...and I have a lot of good reasons why it doesn't exist. Will anyonez callz me out on it so Iz canz explainz what ima talkin about.z
Whoa guy, step away from the bong, you have already wasted enough time(or whatever you choose to call it) with nonsensical dribble.

jeepinxj01
September 6th, 2006, 12:09
LOL...ok ICED bling blinged out xj...you got me, all that was made up. Damn, you guys are just too smooth...It was so easy to fondle everyones minds in my earlier days but now you guys are just getting too keen for me. I guess I will retire and go back to highschool and be that guy that tries too hard to get attention.

aside from that, for those interested and not absorbed with trying to defame the infamous dzol...what are your opinions on Time...I don't believe in Time...and I have a lot of good reasons why it doesn't exist. Will anyonez callz me out on it so Iz canz explainz what ima talkin about.z



Good god, why do I bite?

Time is relative and speakin' of relatives...was there a lot of inbreeding going on in your family? :farmer:

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:10
aside from that, for those interested and not absorbed with trying to defame the infamous dzol...what are your opinions on Time...I don't believe in Time...and I have a lot of good reasons why it doesn't exist. Will anyonez callz me out on it so Iz canz explainz what ima talkin about.z


hahaha go read some books on Einsteins theory. Should explain a lot.

LOL...ok ICED bling blinged out xj...you got me, all that was made up. Damn, you guys are just too smooth...It was so easy to fondle everyones minds in my earlier days but now you guys are just getting too keen for me. I guess I will retire and go back to highschool and be that guy that tries too hard to get attention.

Bling Blinged, my XJ is under construction for your info...



I guess I will retire and go back to highschool and be that guy that tries too hard to get attention.

Well at least you are on your way to recovery :D


Time is relative and speakin' of relatives...was there a lot of inbreeding going on in your family?

hahahaha most likely for him

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:14
Time...here we go...since I have a volunteer. Technically speaking, there is no time. Imagine this, if you taped yourself talking and played it backwards...you couldn't understand it, right? Ok but what if you could, what if the beginning of everything was actually the most advanced civilization and "time" so to speak is going backwards to caveman days, but to us it feels foward because we base time on our own Decay. Really though, nothing decays, the universe and all the particles in it have been here since the beginning of all things known, and will most likely be here till then end if there is even an end. So if an a particle that has been here forever and will always be here exist with no decay, (it cannot just disappear) then, everything made of particles is not really decaying, it's just changing from one shape to another, human body to corpse...etc...etc... For the human mind set, and in everyday life, time can exist as a manifestation of the human mind, but reality, and universally speaking, there is no place for time. It is the measure between the distance of two events, however, distance is measured by time, and therefore cancels itself out.
this would be so much easier to explain in person, but hopefully someone can understand what i'm saying.

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:16
Time...here we go...since I have a volunteer. Technically speaking, there is no time. Imagine this, if you taped yourself talking and played it backwards...you couldn't understand it, right? Ok but what if you could, what if the beginning of everything was actually the most advanced civilization and "time" so to speak is going backwards to caveman days, but to us it feels foward because we base time on our own Decay. Really though, nothing decays, the universe and all the particles in it have been here since the beginning of all things known, and will most likely be here till then end if there is even an end. So if an a particle that has been here forever and will always be here exist with no decay, (it cannot just disappear) then, everything made of particles is not really decaying, it's just changing from one shape to another, human body to corpse...etc...etc... For the human mind set, and in everyday life, time can exist as a manifestation of the human mind, but reality, and universally speaking, there is no place for time. It is the measure between the distance of two events, however, distance is measured by time, and therefore cancels itself out.
this would be so much easier to explain in person, but hopefully someone can understand what i'm saying.

Decay, oh man...When something decays it is losing or gaining nuetrons/electrons. Easy example Nuclear Decay, all decay is an unstable element chaging.

Anyway, it would sound like nothing going backwards in time as well....Duh

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:16
and E=mc`2 is fine and dandy, but it's not applicable to what i'm talking about really...everyone tries to throw that up but thats because they aren't thinking outside the box and are setting themselves to man made laws of the world. What happens if one of your law's just one day fails...then what do you do smart guy? What if, for instance, something from another dimension came into our reality, people wouldn't know what to think of it, in fact that part of the brain that could interpret that probably would be newly accessed and it woul djust be crazy to say the least...but it's possible in a universe of infinate possibilities.

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:18
Decay, oh man...When something decays it is losing or gaining nuetrons/electrons. Easy example Nuclear Decay, all decay is an unstable element chaging.

Anyway, it would sound like nothing going backwards in time as well....Duh

do you know what photons are? Particles that act as waves...etc...subatomic particles do no decay...sure an atom can do what it does...but below that, the things that compose it even...don't just disappear or get smaller...see your just being so skeptical your getting lost in your own butthole man...LISTEN

IXNAYXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:19
and E=mc`2 is fine and dandy, but it's not applicable to what i'm talking about really...everyone tries to throw that up but thats because they aren't thinking outside the box and are setting themselves to man made laws of the world. What happens if one of your law's just one day fails...then what do you do smart guy? What if, for instance, something from another dimension came into our reality, people wouldn't know what to think of it, in fact that part of the brain that could interpret that probably would be newly accessed and it woul djust be crazy to say the least...but it's possible in a universe of infinate possibilities.Please stop. For the love of God, stop.

Go back to the imaginary strip clubs, or tales of you kicking some guy's ass. They're a lot more entertaining...which is all you're really good for at this point.

-----Matt-----

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:19
and E=mc`2 is fine and dandy, but it's not applicable to what i'm talking about really...everyone tries to throw that up but thats because they aren't thinking outside the box and are setting themselves to man made laws of the world. What happens if one of your law's just one day fails...then what do you do smart guy? What if, for instance, something from another dimension came into our reality, people wouldn't know what to think of it, in fact that part of the brain that could interpret that probably would be newly accessed and it woul djust be crazy to say the least...but it's possible in a universe of infinate possibilities.
do you not realize E=mc^2 describes time and motion. It has to do with relativity. And how time changes as you close in on the speed of light. It desribes the motion of photons. (excuse if I am bit off, been awhile since I was in class for this)

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:19
OH http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/media/E-JeebusEmblem.gif

jeepinxj01
September 6th, 2006, 12:21
do you know what photons are? Particles that act as waves...etc...subatomic particles do no decay...sure an atom can do what it does...but below that, the things that compose it even...don't just disappear or get smaller...see your just being so skeptical your getting lost in your own butthole man...LISTEN


Where's Doc Brown when you need him? :looser:

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:22
Where's Doc Brown when you need him? :looser:

Hanging a picture in the bathroom.

jeepinxj01
September 6th, 2006, 12:23
Hanging a picture in the bathroom.


Where would be without the flux capacitor?

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:25
do you know what photons are? Particles that act as waves...etc...subatomic particles do no decay...sure an atom can do what it does...but below that, the things that compose it even...don't just disappear or get smaller...see your just being so skeptical your getting lost in your own butthole man...LISTEN
LOL HAHAHA So you mister I kick peoples asses for fun, I did not realize you were so smart....It has been awhile since I have studied modern physics.

And yes subatomic particles can decay, ever heard of quarks? There are even more sub-divisions from that. Try reading up on some new theories..

IXNAYXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:25
88 MPH!

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-----Matt-----

Timber
September 6th, 2006, 12:30
You wrote that you'd prove time doesn't exist, yet you keep using "what if" statements. Also the "man made laws" you refer to are based on observation (verified, in many cases, over centuries) and math. People didn't just sit down and make stuff up.

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:32
You wrote that you'd prove time doesn't exist, yet you keep using "what if" statements. Also the "man made laws" you refer to are based on observation (verified, in many cases, over centuries) and math. People didn't just sit down and make stuff up.
psh when did that happen, lol...

It is funny he is trying to prove time does not exist but time is a bi-product of the expansion of the universe (I think I am right, but I am not physicist).

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:36
yes, qaurks...up qaurks down qaurks and strange qaurks...if a strange qaurk were introduced into our world...it would end all of our existance...because of a chain reaction that is destructive...strange matter is said to have this effect, strange matter clouds, or death clouds whatever you want to call them....I think thats bullshit though some guys in argentina are accelerating particles into one another trying to "simulate" the big bang...which supposedly can create a strange qaurk as well...even one would demolish our world in a matter of a second probably. Anyways, back on topic, Energy=mass(constant"speed of light") sqaured..yeah yeah...thats not what i'm talking about.
thats what every tiny thing in the universe has inside of it, that amount of energy blah blah, and thats why the big bang theory is so supported because if every tiny particle has that much energy then it is very well percievable that the compression of all matter could have exploded out and created such a universe etc...

What i'm saying is, in space the universe etc...there is no up, down, left right...no boundaries, we can imagine it as a plane...but thats man thinking, not real thinking...it's not a plane it is the universe. So, there is no distance between events, becuase you don't know whether your going backwards or fowards, theres no way to prove either way, it's just what we percieve...

jesus christ people contribute quit being assholes

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:36
If time didn't exist, nothing would happen. We'd be stuck in a freeze frame. And I can tell you, based on the porn I just watched, that things are definitely in motion. Since motion, or velocity, is the first time derivative of position, and I am definitely somewhere, then time must exist.

Q.E.D.

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:38
jesus christ people contribute quit being assholes

How about you make like a tree and get outta here?

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 12:38
Time is a measuring device, nothing more.
How about you make like a tree and get outta here?
you funny

IXNAYXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:39
jesus christ people contribute quit being assholesThe flux-capacitor comments are significantly more interesting and valid than yours. Your "insight" is about as smart as a screendoor on a battleship. So why don't you start contributing something worthwhile.

Asshole.

-----Matt-----

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:39
You wrote that you'd prove time doesn't exist, yet you keep using "what if" statements. Also the "man made laws" you refer to are based on observation (verified, in many cases, over centuries) and math. People didn't just sit down and make stuff up.

yes they did, everything is made up...explain to me how anything came into existance? Someone made it up. Math works, works very well...most people can understand it, but you say, 2+2=4, prove that? What is 2? just keep stroking your ego, I'm not trying to call anyone stupid, I'm trying to talk about big questions that can't be answered by simple thinking, or relativity, or mathematics. You have to use What if's...because it hasn't happened yet, I'm saying What if it does...theres nothing wrong with that, it's how people create theories, and hypothesises and etc...

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:39
yes, qaurks...up qaurks down qaurks and strange qaurks...if a strange qaurk were introduced into our world...it would end all of our existance...because of a chain reaction that is destructive...strange matter is said to have this effect, strange matter clouds, or death clouds whatever you want to call them....I think thats bullshit though some guys in argentina are accelerating particles into one another trying to "simulate" the big bang...which supposedly can create a strange qaurk as well...even one would demolish our world in a matter of a second probably. Anyways, back on topic, Energy=mass(constant"speed of light") sqaured..yeah yeah...thats not what i'm talking about.
thats what every tiny thing in the universe has inside of it, that amount of energy blah blah, and thats why the big bang theory is so supported because if every tiny particle has that much energy then it is very well percievable that the compression of all matter could have exploded out and created such a universe etc...

What i'm saying is, in space the universe etc...there is no up, down, left right...no boundaries, we can imagine it as a plane...but thats man thinking, not real thinking...it's not a plane it is the universe. So, there is no distance between events, becuase you don't know whether your going backwards or fowards, theres no way to prove either way, it's just what we percieve...

jesus christ people contribute quit being assholes

you are correct in saying we are not on a plane but in a limitless universe (as we can figure for now), but to describe motion, time, mass, gravity, etc, the universe must be taken as a plane and then applied to more dimensions. there is x,y,z, and t axis. So what you desribe is what is described by math and physics. Simply cannot go out to the universe and try to grasp how it works with just taking it all at once, you need to break it down, and find how things relate and react. Man I wish I had my notes there are so many sub-atomic particles other than quarks and the 3 you mentioned.

jeepinxj01
September 6th, 2006, 12:41
jesus christ people contribute quit being assholes

Don't bring Jeebus into this! Besides,what would Jeebus think about you talkin' about the big bang theory. It would make baby Jeebus cry.

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:42
yes they did, everything is made up...explain to me how anything came into existance? Someone made it up. Math works, works very well...most people can understand it, but you say, 2+2=4, prove that? What is 2? just keep stroking your ego, I'm not trying to call anyone stupid, I'm trying to talk about big questions that can't be answered by simple thinking, or relativity, or mathematics. You have to use What if's...because it hasn't happened yet, I'm saying What if it does...theres nothing wrong with that, it's how people create theories, and hypothesises and etc...

You have no grasp of reality, young man. How about being a productive member of society and taking your meds?

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:42
yes they did, everything is made up...explain to me how anything came into existance? Someone made it up. Math works, works very well...most people can understand it, but you say, 2+2=4, prove that? What is 2? just keep stroking your ego, I'm not trying to call anyone stupid, I'm trying to talk about big questions that can't be answered by simple thinking, or relativity, or mathematics. You have to use What if's...because it hasn't happened yet, I'm saying What if it does...theres nothing wrong with that, it's how people create theories, and hypothesises and etc...
ahahaha you are just asking for trouble...1+1 = 2 is not as easy as it sounds. You realize that relativity and modern physics and ssome Newtonian Physics relate to the Big Bang and to that theory, but with the observation that all objects in the universe are moving away from each other, what would prescribe dr. dumb?

Time is a measuring device, nothing more.
No, It is a way to describe distance.

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:43
It would make baby Jeebus cry.

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Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 12:43
What would Gee whiz think? More importantly, how about Ted Nugent?

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:44
If time didn't exist, nothing would happen. We'd be stuck in a freeze frame. And I can tell you, based on the porn I just watched, that things are definitely in motion. Since motion, or velocity, is the first time derivative of position, and I am definitely somewhere, then time must exist.

Q.E.D.

sigh...math math math it must be true. Truth in our day is defined by what is popular, and accepted by a larger qauntity of society. If you "think outside the box" you can't use math and so forth. Explain to me this...in everyday life, gravity exist, but, on a smaller scale, lets say the qauntum level...it does not...they have to create a whole new set of rules and guidelines for measuring and understanding things because they don't live by the same rules as your larger scale of existance....So with that being said, your "laws" and "math" aren't "true" for all angles of the universe, in which case I would go so far as to say, just think about it with an open mind for a bit and disregard what your teachers in highschool told you about. If people didn't ask the question "why?", or "what if?" or challenge what popular "truth" was...then we would still be a heliocentrical universe, or a geocentrical one even...

side note, if you want to end the world...shoot a large enough rocket at th emoon and throw it's eliptical path off, it will then smack into earth and destroy earth because Fg=Mm/Rsqaured

:)

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:46
What would Gee whiz think? More importantly, how about Ted Nugent?

Buddha says, "Pass the mashed potatoes."

http://www.buddhamuseum.com/happy-buddha/happy-buddha-mi-li_3994m.jpg

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:46
side note, if you want to end the world...shoot a large enough rocket at th emoon and throw it's eliptical path off, it will then smack into earth and destroy earth because Fg=Mm/Rsqaured

:)

oh man


F(gravity) = G [(M1*M2)/R^2]

that simply describes the eliptical path of the moon. If you knocked it off its path, assuming the rocket hits it on the side facing the Earth you will cause it to deflect outwards assuming the explosion is powerful enough.

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:48
How could math not be true? You sir, are in denial of the obvious.

IXNAYXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:48
Ok so a friend and I are trying to build a police proof vehicle hypothetically with infinate money kinda... we want it to be bullet proof, have two motors, hydrogen powered, with an air to water converter to supply the fuel, that way we don't run outta fuel. Then we want tank treads so they can't be shot out, and a few other gadgets to keep the police and choppers from catching us. :) any input?I'm sorry. We didn't take this post nearly seriously enough. When I was five I drew something similar with crayons.

I'll see if I can track down the technical details and PM them to you.

-----Matt-----

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 12:48
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IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:49
How could math not be true? You sir, are in denial of the obvious.
X2

wait I know what it is English, screw numbers we should be using modern English letters to solve the universe.

I would like a logical and explained answer to why math is false. You have a hypothesis but not tests and no test to give.

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:49
ahahaha you are just asking for trouble...1+1 = 2 is not as easy as it sounds. You realize that relativity and modern physics and ssome Newtonian Physics relate to the Big Bang and to that theory, but with the observation that all objects in the universe are moving away from each other, what would prescribe dr. dumb?


No, It is a way to describe distance.

whats with the insults...suppose this, and you can't prove me wrong because no one knows...but suppose the beginning of "time" as you call it, is when all things have moved out the farthest from the essential big bang...the big bang being the end of time...therefore we would be going backwards in time...suppose that, once we reach the edge of the universe whenver that may be, it all just reverses and goes back to the end of time again...etc...Then my original statements from a millino post back still hold logic and substance....

what if, you are talking backwards right now and the minute of decay is actually then end of your life, and not the beginning...Like i said it would be better to explain this in person but I feel that maybe a few of you can grasp this via web it's not really complicated and you can't disprove it with any amount of math or physics or laws or w/e

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 12:50
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Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 12:50
Damnit Ramsey, you're gonna get me in trouble!

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 12:51
I do what I can

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:52
oh man


F(gravity) = G [(M1*M2)/R^2]

that simply describes the eliptical path of the moon. If you knocked it off its path, assuming the rocket hits it on the side facing the Earth you will cause it to deflect outwards assuming the explosion is powerful enough.

that eqaution describes the force of gravity between two objects...Rsqaured being the distance between the two centers...so if you stop or throw off the revolution of the moon it won't have enough force to keep it in orbit and it will accelerate at earth just like newtons apple thus destroying earth...more than likely, it may even throw earth off orbit from the sun, which could result in even bigger catastrophes...not sure just a thought

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 12:52
that eqaution describes the force of gravity between two objects...Rsqaured being the distance between the two centers...so if you stop or throw off the revolution of the moon it won't have enough force to keep it in orbit and it will accelerate at earth just like newtons apple thus destroying earth...more than likely, it may even throw earth off orbit from the sun, which could result in even bigger catastrophes...not sure just a thought
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dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 12:52
anyways, gotta go to work nice chatting with you guys.
cheers

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:53
whats with the insults...suppose this, and you can't prove me wrong because no one knows...but suppose the beginning of "time" as you call it, is when all things have moved out the farthest from the essential big bang...the big bang being the end of time...therefore we would be going backwards in time...suppose that, once we reach the edge of the universe whenver that may be, it all just reverses and goes back to the end of time again...etc...Then my original statements from a millino post back still hold logic and substance....

what if, you are talking backwards right now and the minute of decay is actually then end of your life, and not the beginning...Like i said it would be better to explain this in person but I feel that maybe a few of you can grasp this via web it's not really complicated and you can't disprove it with any amount of math or physics or laws or w/e

Ya we cannot disprove it b/c it has no basis and no evidence. There is a theory that goes off on the topic of a collapsing universe.

And I did not insult you by stating you are asking for trouble. Words can come out of your mouth and it can make sense to you but if you cannot prove it and explain it in a manner that others can understand you are in your own little world with a lot of issues.

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:54
that eqaution describes the force of gravity between two objects...Rsqaured being the distance between the two centers...so if you stop or throw off the revolution of the moon it won't have enough force to keep it in orbit and it will accelerate at earth just like newtons apple thus destroying earth...more than likely, it may even throw earth off orbit from the sun, which could result in even bigger catastrophes...not sure just a thought

hahahahaha wow, please read some actual physics books. It will not fall directly into the Earth. I am done, you are not making any damn sense

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 12:55
Physics is a plot of the government to control us man

IcedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 12:55
Physics is a plot of the government to control us man
hahaha

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 12:56
This page needs something, it seems naked. Oh yeah, a lot of bs spewing. Here you go:





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jeepinxj01
September 6th, 2006, 12:59
Can someone please tell me why the hell we keep entertaining every thing this tard posts up? :banghead:

Lawn Cher'
September 6th, 2006, 13:00
anyways, gotta go to work

Where do you work? I'd like to meet you in person.:wantyou:

XJ Dreamin'
September 6th, 2006, 13:19
So, the in-laws came to visit over the weekend, and the sister-in-law as well. Oh man, you're thinking, the in-laws - what a drag. Not so. I look forward to their visits. The wife's old man is a good guy and with all the women off shopping (they take the boys 'cause their aunt buys them stuff), he and I can actually get some things done. I finally replaced my leaking rear tranny seal, replaced the POS dryer vent on the roof with a 4" vent elbow, built a wall around the flower garden, repaired my busted down LazyBoy, repaired the side table that sits in the livingroom inbetween our LazyBoys, and did some grillin'.

All in all, a very good four day weekend.

And that's no BS :)

MogifiedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 13:22
So, the in-laws came to visit over the weekend, and the sister-in-law as well. Oh man, you're thinking, the in-laws - what a drag. Not so. I look forward to their visits. The wife's old man is a good guy and with all the women off shopping (they take the boys 'cause their aunt buys them stuff), he and I can actually get some things done. I finally replaced my leaking rear tranny seal, replaced the POS dryer vent on the roof with a 4" vent elbow, built a wall around the flower garden, repaired my busted down LazyBoy, repaired the side table that sits in the livingroom inbetween our LazyBoys, and did some grillin'.

All in all, a very good four day weekend.

And that's no BS :)

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XJ Dreamin'
September 6th, 2006, 13:29
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This one time at band camp...wait,

I think you've heard that story. Some hack screenwriter in Hollywood stole that story from me, but they made it a girl in the movie. Why a girl? It was funnier when I did it :)

OT
September 6th, 2006, 14:00
He's not a troll.
Or is he?

IXNAYXJ
September 6th, 2006, 14:03
He's not a troll.
Or is he?drolzlactard is a bizzare human or very clever troll. I couldn't make that shit up if I tried ...

Thats about says it....

-----Matt-----

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 21:38
I'm pretty positive my physics book says that F(G)=Mm/Rsqaured...means Force(gravity)=Mass1 X Mass2/distance between diameters sqaured....

thats simple enough and has nothing to do with eliptical paths. For instance, an apple...it's fairly close to the earths surface...it weighs X amount, the earth weighs x amount...the distance between the two centers is roughly the radius of earth since your only adding a couple of feet above the earths surface...so Force of gravity=Earths mass X apples mass/Diameter of earth+a couple feet sqaured....

thats how you use that eqaution, don't try to play that off on me bro..you know it's right. Also...how do you guys feel about pluto not being a planet?

MogifiedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 21:40
Man I was just about to go to bed...


























now I've got to stay up and watch this train wreck.

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 21:42
Both of yall need to go to bed...permanently

:D

Beej
September 6th, 2006, 21:45
I'm pretty positive my physics book says that F(G)=Mm/Rsqaured...means Force(gravity)=Mass1 X Mass2/distance between diameters sqaured....

thats simple enough and has nothing to do with eliptical paths. For instance, an apple...it's fairly close to the earths surface...it weighs X amount, the earth weighs x amount...the distance between the two centers is roughly the radius of earth since your only adding a couple of feet above the earths surface...so Force of gravity=Earths mass X apples mass/Diameter of earth+a couple feet sqaured....

thats how you use that eqaution, don't try to play that off on me bro..you know it's right. Also...how do you guys feel about pluto not being a planet?
Crank (person)

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"Crank" is a pejorative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative) term for a person who

holds some belief which the vast majority of his contemporaries would consider counterfactual,
clings to this belief in the face of all counterarguments or evidence presented to them. The term implies that

a "cranky" belief is so wildly at variance with some commonly accepted truth as to be ludicrous,
arguing with the crank is useless, because they will invariably dismiss all evidence or arguments which contradict their cranky belief. Common synonyms for "crank" include kook and crackpot. The word quack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quackery) is usually reserved for someone who promotes a medical remedy or practice which he knows to be ineffective.

MogifiedXJ
September 6th, 2006, 21:46
Both of yall need to go to bed...permanently

:D

Yeah....clever

Try a little harder next time.

:conceited

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Beej
September 6th, 2006, 21:46
Relativity of crank beliefs

The term crank is often applied to persons who contradict rigorously proven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_%28mathematics%29) mathematical theorems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem), such as the impossibility of squaring the circle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle) by ruler and compass, or who deny extremely well established physical theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory#physics), such as the special theory of relativity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_theory_of_relativity).
In the latter case, when scientific paradigms are overthrown, a belief previously considered cranky could in principle later be considered mainstream. Examples are rare, but they do exist; for example, the notion of continental drift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift) proposed by Alfred Wegener (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Wegener) was widely considered by contemporary geologists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologist) to be cranky, but was eventually dramatically vindicated.
It appears to be even more unlikely that the opinion of the mathematical community might change concerning whether some proven theorem is true, despite nineteenth and twentieth century discoveries in mathematical logic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_logic) which are often popularly misunderstood as having overthrown theorems previously regarded as true. It would be more correct to say that mathematicians have gradually become aware of subtle issues which had previously been overlooked. That is, previous mathematical knowledge has been enriched, not overthrown, by such discoveries as non-euclidean geometry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-euclidean_geometry) or Gödel's theorem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_theorem).
Nonetheless, since the nature of mainstream opinion can change over time, it is useful to define crankery in terms of characteristics which are independent of the allegedly cranky belief. Indeed, it is widely accepted that the true hallmark of the crank is not so much asserting that the Earth is flat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society) as making this assertion in the face of all counterarguments and contrary evidence. All authors (see the references) who have studied the phenomenon of crankery agree that this is the essential defining characteristic of a crank:
No argument or evidence can ever be sufficient to make a crank abandon his belief. From this point of view, the fact that most people can alter their opinions when confronted with sufficiently strong arguments or evidence shows that the real significance of the fact that mainstream opinion can change over time is that most individuals are not cranky.

Beej
September 6th, 2006, 21:48
Common characteristics of cranks

The first book of the philosopher and popular author Martin Gardner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Gardner) was a study of crank beliefs which has become classic. More recently, the mathematician Underwood Dudley has written a book on mathematical cranks. And in a 1998 UseNet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UseNet) post (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup) which has become classic, the mathematician John Baez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baez) humorously proposed a "checklist" intended to "diagnose" cranky beliefs regarding contemporary physics. Comparing these analyses, we can extract some characteristics of cranks which seem to be widely acknowledged.
Virtually universal characteristics of cranks include:

Cranks vastly overestimate their own knowledge and ability, and vastly underestimate that of acknowledged experts.
Cranks insist that their alleged discoveries are urgently important.
Cranks rarely if ever acknowledge any error, no matter how trivial.
Cranks love to talk about their own beliefs, often in inappropriate social situations, but they tend to be very, very bad listeners, and often appear to be utterly uninterested in anyone else's experience or opinions. Some cranks exhibit a lack of academic achievement, in which case they typically assert that academic training in the subject of their crank belief is not only unnecessary for discovering "the truth", but actively harmful because they believe it "poisons" the minds by teaching falsehoods. Others greatly exaggerate their personal achievements, and may insist that some alleged achievement in some entirely unrelated area of human endeavor implies that their cranky opinion should be taken seriously.
Some cranks claim vast knowledge of any relevant literature, while others claim that familiarity with previous work is entirely unnecessary; regardless, cranks inevitably reveal that whether or not they believe themselves to be knowledgeable concerning relevant matters of fact, mainstream opinion, or previous work, they are not in fact well-informed concerning the topic of their belief.
In addition, many cranks

seriously misunderstand the mainstream opinion to which they believe that they are objecting,
stress that they have been working out their ideas for many decades, and claim that this fact alone entails that their belief cannot be dismissed as resting upon some simple error,
compare themselves with Galileo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei) or Copernicus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus), implying that the mere unpopularity of some belief is in itself evidence of plausibility,
claim that their ideas are being suppressed by secret intelligence organizations, mainstream science, powerful business interests, or other groups which, they allege, are terrified by the possibility of their allegedly revolutionary insights becoming widely known,
appear to regard themselves as persons of unique historical importance. Cranks who contradict some mainstream opinion in some highly technical field, such as mathematics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics) or physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics), almost always

exhibit a marked lack of technical ability,
misunderstand or fail to use standard notation and terminology,
ignore fine distinctions which are essential to correctly understanding mainstream belief. That is, cranks tend to ignore any previous insights which have been proven by experience to facilitate discussion and analysis of the topic of their cranky claims; indeed, they often assert that these innovations obscure rather than clarify the situation.


In addition, cranky scientific "theories" do not in fact qualify as theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) as this term is commonly understood within science. For example, crank "theories" in physics typically fail to result in testable predictions, which makes them unfalsifiable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfalsifiable) and hence useless.


Perhaps surprisingly, many cranks may appear quite normal when they are not passionately expounding their cranky belief, and they may even be successful in careers unrelated to their cranky belief. Others can (charitably) be characterized as underachievers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underachiever) in all walks of life.

Beej
September 6th, 2006, 21:50
The psychology of cranks

Many of the characteristics noted in the previous section suggest that crankery may represent some kind of cognitive disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_disorder) or personality disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_disorder).


An interesting and widely quoted study by two Cornell University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_University) psychologists, Justin Kruger and David Dunning, bears directly upon a striking and virtually universal characteristic of cranks: they simultaneously vastly overestimate their own knowledge and ability and vastly underestimate that of other persons, including that of acknowledged experts in the field.

Kruger and Dunning noted a number of previous studies which tend to suggest that in skills as diverse as reading comprehension, playing chess or tennis, or operating a motor vehicle, "ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" (as Charles Darwin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin) put it). Specifically, they hypothesized that with regard to a typical skill which humans may possess in greater or lesser degree,

grossly incompetent individuals tend to greatly overestimate their own level of skill,
grossly incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in others,
grossly incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy,
if they can be trained to substantially improve their own skill level, these individuals can recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill. They set out to test these hypotheses on human subjects, sixty-five Cornell undergraduates registered in various psychology courses.
In a series of studies, Kruger and Dunning examined self-assessment of logical reasoning skills, grammatical skills, and humor. In one of their most striking results, they found that

students whose test skills put them well below average (bottom 10th percentile) guessed that they ranked in the top third of the class,
students whose test skills put them well above average (top 10th percentile) slightly underestimated their class rank. After being shown their test score, the subjects were again asked to estimate their own rank, whereupon the competent group accurately estimated their rank, while the incompetent group still vastly overestimated their own rank. Only after extensive tutoring in the skills they had previously lacked did a followup study suggest that these formerly grossly incompetent students had improved both their actual skill level and their ability to estimate their class rank.


These results may explain why cranks so often seem to represent, not individuals with an exceptional degree of knowledge, but rather individuals with an exceptional degree of ignorance concerning the subject of their cranky belief.


As noted above, in addition to a general lack of ability to accurately assess their own skills and knowledge, many cranks also exhibit easily recognizable deficiencies in reading comprehension, logical reasoning, and other cognitive abnormalities, which obviously contribute both to how they arrive at some bizarre counterfactual belief in the first place, and to how they are able to cling to such a belief in the face of all objections.


It is also striking that many cranks seem to exhibit certain symptoms of grandiosity or megalomania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania). This may perhaps also be understood, in terms of the phenomenon studied by Kruger and Dunning, as resulting from a simultaneous vast overinflation of their own social value and underestimation of the social value of others.

Chero-King
September 6th, 2006, 21:54
Removed.
Reason: Stupid-ness.

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 22:09
so essentially by posting that...your insinuating that I would be a crank...because some of my "ideas" not beliefs seeing as I am not set on any particular thing...are unconventionaly and do not conform with the mass opinion here, which in some instances...are either unrelated, or misinformed such as icedxj's force of gravity misunderstanding, or the random "relativity" remark that really is of no importance in the thing I was actually talking about. Sure it's fun to talk about, but think about Einstein as well...E=mcsqaured, he essentially guessed that...Just like Kepler guessed the right orbit of Mars using all Brahes documentations combined with his math skills...and thus created Psqaured=Acubed in (AUs)...in any instance...I like to speak for myself, as opposed to copy pasting out of books where someone else speaks for me, especially when they are obviously trying to refute against a "crank" perhaps in their own endeavors of life. There is nothing wrong with thinking against common knowledge...it's not like I disregard the knowledge thats there, or leave it out, It just doesn't apply to what I'm talking about, call me names cause I can understand it, but in my opinion it's not really complex and if you don't understand it perhaps...you have over estimated your own intelligence. Think about this, what if you lived in a 2d world...I believe I used a similar thought earlier, but ok, everything is 2d, you never ever have experienced 3d, then one day something comes into your world thats 3d, and unknown with no math thoery or logic behind it, it just appears...what do the 2d people do, can their minds even acknowledge the phenomenon? Ok, so we live in 3d...what happens when something that even the most thought provoked scientist or human or philospher, introduces itself into our world....Tell me then...what does all your math and logic and etc...do for you then, and still no one has answered to me what 2 really is? it's a number..it's a thing? what is 2? crank...thats such a load of B.S...someone actually wrote that thats what is really effed up...And what exactly are the credentials and accomplishements of the writter by chance? Noble prize winner? doubtful. Anyone who has ever accomplished anything great would fit into the category of a crank.

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 22:23
Also...on a side note...pyschologist are a joke to me at times... the type that point out everyones problems, diagnose them with pills, uppers downers, or whatever to bring them to the "social" normality average...I think thats a load of crap. I would go so far as to say that most pyschologist are probably out of touch with what causes people to do things or say things or what have you. I think what i mean to say is, for someone to claim that they can diagnose an individual human, being the ultra complex creature that a human is, is proportionally cranky. I am just throwing some random numbers out but whats the average brain usage like 10%, leaving a ridiculous amount of brain power untapped and unexperienced by anyone...then you judge someone or base an opinion of someone by what we know...Oh yeah thats right ritalin, we dont' give that to kids anymore, and why is that? Because some mumbo jumbo pyschologist/doctors were wrong...why is that? Thats just one drug prescribed to mass humans to medicate illnesses that quite frankly may not even exist...they just aren't socially "normal". boohoo..Tell me what a pyschologist can do for someone who is falling into their own mind? Explain to them the answers to questions that can't be answered...assure them everythings going to be ok? No I doubt it, probably just prescribed them some medicine based on some books they read or some statistics and independent studies they did on small groups and blah blah blah...sorry beej you seem to be a stand up guy but I disagree in this instance, the human mind is to complex and beautiful to try to explain in a book or group opinions. On top of that, you of all people should know that reality is experienced differently by every person...There is no proof and will not be any proof that can say your eyes do or don't decieve you everyday. You may think your seeing a color or a thing, and there is no way to prove thats true or not PERIOD. Therefore all realities for every person is different and cannot fit into your cookie cutter books with their cookie cutter simple answers such as "oh he wont' go along with our beliefs he is a crank". Sounds like allz ya got some sorta psuedo Spanish inquisition rubbed off on you.

Ramsey
September 6th, 2006, 22:25
Most psychologists dont and cant write prescriptions, at least in the us.

XJ Dreamin'
September 6th, 2006, 22:33
Also...on a side note...pyschologist are a joke to me at times... the type that point out everyones problems, diagnose them with pills, uppers downers, or whatever to bring them to the "social" normality average...I think thats a load of crap. I would go so far as to say that most pyschologist are probably out of touch with what causes people to do things or say things or what have you. I think what i mean to say is, for someone to claim that they can diagnose an individual human, being the ultra complex creature that a human is, is proportionally cranky. I am just throwing some random numbers out but whats the average brain usage like 10%, leaving a ridiculous amount of brain power untapped and unexperienced by anyone...then you judge someone or base an opinion of someone by what we know...Oh yeah thats right ritalin, we dont' give that to kids anymore, and why is that? Because some mumbo jumbo pyschologist/doctors were wrong...why is that? Thats just one drug prescribed to mass humans to medicate illnesses that quite frankly may not even exist...they just aren't socially "normal". boohoo..Tell me what a pyschologist can do for someone who is falling into their own mind? Explain to them the answers to questions that can't be answered...assure them everythings going to be ok? No I doubt it, probably just prescribed them some medicine based on some books they read or some statistics and independent studies they did on small groups and blah blah blah...sorry beej you seem to be a stand up guy but I disagree in this instance, the human mind is to complex and beautiful to try to explain in a book or group opinions. On top of that, you of all people should know that reality is experienced differently by every person...There is no proof and will not be any proof that can say your eyes do or don't decieve you everyday. You may think your seeing a color or a thing, and there is no way to prove thats true or not PERIOD. Therefore all realities for every person is different and cannot fit into your cookie cutter books with their cookie cutter simple answers such as "oh he wont' go along with our beliefs he is a crank". Sounds like allz ya got some sorta psuedo Spanish inquisition rubbed off on you.

Do you know Tom Cruise? Could you get me an autograph...or maybe a pair of Katie's used undies? That'd be cool. Thanks.

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 22:33
ONe last thing while I'm on this..
The term crank is often applied to persons who contradict rigorously proven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_%28mathematics%29) mathematical theorems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem), such as the impossibility of squaring the circle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle) by ruler and compass, or who deny extremely well established physical theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory#physics), such as the special theory of relativity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_theory_of_relativity)

notice and I'll put this in bold and caps so you guys can see this THEORIES OR THEORY OF RELATIVITY. Not fact...so can it about that...just because it's been proven time and time again does not mean it's a fact, and in this instance it is a theory well established or not...it's still a theory and theres a reason for that so to not agree with it does not make you a retard. Fact the earth is flat, Fact Earth is the center of the universe...see, now what happens when someone disagrees with that..everyone slits there throats but, those were facts...I'm just stating an idea, something I think occasionally...and everyone jumps my nuts with "theories" and bs from highschool..drop it seriously.

lets talk about whether they should legalize drugs or not...I say they should, take all the money out of it and make all the dealers loose out. If someone is going to do drugs they will find a way...might as well just make limitations and standards to protect society from those individuals and get all the drug deals, drive by's and junkies off the streets.

example: Takes roughly 2million to prosecute a major drug dealer..then cost to put them in jail etc...What happens 15 minutes later...their spot is filled and the cycle continues...why not make drugs legal...knock out all the profit from it and then regulate it like alcohol.
Besides Alcohol is worse for you than a few drugs out there anyways, why make it legal along with cigarettes, but then exclude things like pot(not addicitve or real physically imparative) and a few other substances that really don't have high abuse ratings.

just my two cents.

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 22:35
I guess tom cruise is a nut now too right...dude could probably buy all your xj's and light a match to them and think nothing of it...yet he's a nut cause he doesn't follow the herd of sheep...sad world this is becomming.

Sniggs
September 6th, 2006, 22:37
good... now go redeem yourself and yank that crank.

He certainly does seem to be the final arbiter in olfactory ugliness.

Now it seems that he has taken the mantle of being the CAO (Chief annoying orifice). It depends not where you are, there will always be one hell bent on being the bead of sweat that inevitably ends up irritating your ass crack on a hot day.

XJ Dreamin'
September 6th, 2006, 22:37
I guess tom cruise is a nut now too right...dude could probably buy all your xj's and light a match to them and think nothing of it...yet he's a nut cause he doesn't follow the herd of sheep...sad world this is becomming.

He's a nut 'cause he's been sucked in by Scientology and Dyanetics. He's a lost little sheep and deserves our pity.

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 22:42
xj...I don't mean this in a bad way, it's going to sound offensive..but it makes me sad that there are people in the world like you, with those types of conservative viewpoints that they think that their pity is worth something to someone who could give two sh*ts about them....Tom cruise could buy you and sell you like a piece of a$$ and care less...yet he deserves your pity? LOL Ok hoss w/e you say. go worship jesus or something.

XJ Dreamin'
September 6th, 2006, 22:44
xj...I don't mean this in a bad way, it's going to sound offensive..but it makes me sad that there are people in the world like you, with those types of conservative viewpoints that they think that their pity is worth something to someone who could give two sh*ts about them....Tom cruise could buy you and sell you like a piece of a$$ and care less...yet he deserves your pity? LOL Ok hoss w/e you say. go worship jesus or something.

You don't worship Jesus?!

Matt S.
September 6th, 2006, 22:46
fooseballs the debil!

Life is like a box of chocolates.

He's got the whole world in his hands.

Hello Clarice.

You can do it!

Alrighty then.

I like pizza Steve... pizza.

You.. can't.. leave.. me.. here..

Hi, my name is Glenn. I mean drizlygoop. I have a new level of ADHD, they are calling it reverse evolution. I am the new era of retards! Bow down in fear before your almighty tard!





I got this in a chain email.... it must be true!

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 22:48
You don't worship Jesus?!

wow umm..what to say to that, Ok so I finally realized why I'm considered a retard in here..I'm not your usual suspect aka jesus worshipper...why on earth would I worship something?

XJ Dreamin'
September 6th, 2006, 22:53
My dog lies around chewing on this one claw on one foot until it's all raggedy. Do you think she has like a nail fungus or something? It's really weird - she makes this clack,clack,clack sound as her teeth slip of the claw. It's really annoying and she won't stop. It gets so annoying I have to throw her outside to put a stop to it. If it isn't that, she lies there licking her privates - slurp,slurp,slurp...OUTSIDE! I think she does it just to annoy me.

XJ Dreamin'
September 6th, 2006, 22:55
wow umm..what to say to that, Ok so I finally realized why I'm considered a retard in here..I'm not your usual suspect aka jesus worshipper...why on earth would I worship something?

You worship yourself...I just thought you might spread it around a little. Other gods deserve worship too, ya' know. You wouldn't want them to suffer, all malworshiped and all.

Matt S.
September 6th, 2006, 22:56
wow umm..what to say to that, Ok so I finally realized why I'm considered a retard in here..I'm not your usual suspect aka jesus worshipper...why on earth would I worship something?

http://www.adhd.co.nz/images/homepage_r1_c1.gif



http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h112/dvsvision/retard.jpg




http://www.ukmusic.com/forum/attachments/photo-gallery/12804-someone-slap-this-girl-fag.jpg




http://www.gocougs.net/fuskies/img/demotivivationseries/Stupidity.jpg



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http://www.thallenbeck.com/crank/images/crank_emblem_1.gif


http://ramblingadventures.blogspot.com/einstein.jpg

dzolcali
September 6th, 2006, 23:47
google "baby soup"...I don't worship myself haha. I sorta believe or not believe I really don't know how to explain it but i'm a happy person...I mean look at the threads, you guys sh*t on me everychance you get, some of it intelligent, some of it just plain gimp. But I still come back with a smile everytime :) it's like throwing rocks at a yellows jacket nest with a bee suit on..you guys get all stirred up...I got my bee suit on...you can't sting me baby...oh oh watch the hands, mmm too slow.
no chingas mas el perro per favore
du bist mein schlampa(settembre sette, duemilasei)
bo me ham

goodburbon
September 7th, 2006, 00:04
wow umm..what to say to that, Ok so I finally realized why I'm considered a retard in here..I'm not your usual suspect aka jesus worshipper...why on earth would I worship something?


Wrong. If the criteria for being a tard was just someone who didn't worship Jesus there would be far more tards. You're a crank because your "thoughts" are mindless pseudo-educated wanderings on accepted theories and known fact. You're a tard because ALL of your thoughts are cranky, and you KNOW you're so much smarter than everyone here.

Damnit, I wasn't gonna post in here.

dzolcali
September 7th, 2006, 00:28
burbon...never said I was smart/smarter...sounds like an inferior complex some of you suffer from..perhaps your own mindlessness and lack of self confidence. Call me a crank all you want...I really like how you guys follow each other around like schools of fish, in fact it appears you nibble at the bait just like fish too...some of you swallow the hook. aside from that, pseudo educated wanderings...that sounds important it must be right. Enlighten me oh wise one goodburbon with your plethora of theories and facts that some how "counter" my simple idea that perhaps there is no time...Perhaps there is no jesus, I believe there is no time...and I have some abilities to support that belief...some of you believe in god...wheres your evidence? I think religious people would be the biggest cranks of all time...because in spite of all the information that disprove, or discredit their religion, they still believe and will not reason with those of alternate opinion...to make light of your comment, I stated this several times before...nobody KNOWS anything, including myself, somehow you guys just skim through everything and start meditating what your going to flame me on and completely miss the pulp of the post...few of you can contribute beyond "yeah well your a tard cause your mom wears socks" type comments. So for someone who has been reading and not posting, and then comes in outta the blue with "blah blah your mindless wanderings on theories and fact, cranky tard assumption assumption." makes me wonder if you are even justified to call anyone a tard sir.
g'nite mate.

goodburbon
September 7th, 2006, 01:34
burbon...never said I was smart/smarter...sounds like an inferior complex some of you suffer from..perhaps your own mindlessness and lack of self confidence. Call me a crank all you want...I really like how you guys follow each other around like schools of fish, in fact it appears you nibble at the bait just like fish too...some of you swallow the hook. aside from that, pseudo educated wanderings...that sounds important it must be right. Enlighten me oh wise one goodburbon with your plethora of theories and facts that some how "counter" my simple idea that perhaps there is no time...Perhaps there is no jesus, I believe there is no time...and I have some abilities to support that belief...some of you believe in god...wheres your evidence? I think religious people would be the biggest cranks of all time...because in spite of all the information that disprove, or discredit their religion, they still believe and will not reason with those of alternate opinion...to make light of your comment, I stated this several times before...nobody KNOWS anything, including myself, somehow you guys just skim through everything and start meditating what your going to flame me on and completely miss the pulp of the post...few of you can contribute beyond "yeah well your a tard cause your mom wears socks" type comments. So for someone who has been reading and not posting, and then comes in outta the blue with "blah blah your mindless wanderings on theories and fact, cranky tard assumption assumption." makes me wonder if you are even justified to call anyone a tard sir.
g'nite mate.


Very cute. I agree with religion being a very cranky thing. I don't care if your mom wears socks. I am intelligent enough to know that I am not qualified to enter into a physics debate, as I have only had one classical physics course in college. I KNOW what I know, and if that were NOTHING then we would surely not know how to communicate.

Your theory on time blends with your knowledge of "nothing" to suggest that we are all only a thought, since none of the knowledge that we hold would be our own, and time is irrelevant in thought. In which case we would meerely be thoughts of another being, perhaps an interdimensional snail pondering the evolution of his next meal, perhaps "god". :confused1


You could accept that you exist, that you are responsible for your own actions, and promptly seek rehab and psychological help. I'm sure, however that you would be more content to think I have an inferiority complex, and that is why I have attacked you, but then realize that you couldn't have taken the time to think that. Thoughts, after all, are based on knowledge, and time doesn't exist anyway.:shhh:

red91
September 7th, 2006, 06:38
I'm going to try and channel the spirit of the great "Urban Redneck" and hopefully he can end this thread with a witty comment or 2.


:firedevil

:skull2:

shortxjdoug
September 7th, 2006, 06:41
this should be a stickie........

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 07:10
this should be a stickie........

It's sticky enough, as it is.



So, what should I do about my dog?

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 07:17
It's sticky enough, as it is.



So, what should I do about my dog?

Agreed, plenty sticky.

Contact the Dog Whisperer.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 07:23
Agreed, plenty sticky.

Contact the Dog Whisperer.

But, is there time to save her? What is time, really?



If I could put time in a bottle....

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 07:26
If I could put time in a bottle....

:music: The Police:

Message in a bottle.

Sending out an SOS!

(This thread needs help)

Chero-King
September 7th, 2006, 07:28
Soo..not to be an ass... but....do you even have a Jeep? Cause I still dont remember seeing any pictures...?

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 07:32
there's a dead cricket on my desk this morning.



Actually, it's been there for awhile.



It was just...there one morning.



That first day I thought about getting up and carrying it to the trash...




But I didn't.




Now, after four days it's become kind of a...friend...reliable...I know he'll always be there...every morning....me and my cricket.

Geepfreak
September 7th, 2006, 07:34
Now, after four days it's become kind of a...friend...reliable...I know he'll always be there...every morning....me and my cricket.

Thanks for sharing..

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 07:36
You found Jiminy?

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 07:38
Now, after four days it's become kind of a...friend...reliable...I know he'll always be there...every morning....me and my cricket.

We should take your cricket fishing.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 07:42
We should take your cricket fishing.

That's the first constructive thought I've seen in this thread!! :thumbup:

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 07:43
You found Jiminy?

RIP

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 07:44
Thanks for sharing..

Isn't this the "Pointlessly Random Thought" thread?

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 07:45
Give a cricket a fish and he just looks at it, take a cricket fishing and we'll have a decent fish fry.....Umm....fish.....:lickout:

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 07:52
Give a cricket a fish and he just looks at it, take a cricket fishing and we'll have a decent fish fry.....Umm....fish.....:lickout:

You can lead a cricket to water....


...damn, I got nothing.

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 08:07
Since this is random and we're all retarded for playing into his game, I just sat down at my desk w/ a banquet microwave meal and I'm craving some bluegill. This sucks. :hang:

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 08:11
Since this is random and we're all retarded for playing into his game, I just sat down at my desk w/ a banquet microwave meal and I'm craving some bluegill. This sucks. :hang:

You know, for as long as I've been fishing, I've never eaten a bluegill. I really like Mahi-Mahi.

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 08:13
You know, for as long as I've been fishing, I've never eaten a bluegill. I really like Mahi-Mahi.


Really? They're very tasty, you just need a shit load of them to make a good fry. Mahi-mahi isn't bad either.

Sushi sounds good right now too.

Humm...dinner maybe.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 08:15
Since this is random and we're all retarded for playing into his game, I just sat down at my desk w/ a banquet microwave meal and I'm craving some bluegill. This sucks. :hang:

I like the frozen jalapeno poppers from TGIF - the cheddar ones, not the cream cheese. I really like the fried jalapeno sticks from Sonic. Those are great. Otherwise, some pizza rolls are always good, or fried mozzarella sticks

...damn, I'm gettin' hungry too...Jiminy's startin' to look gooood...

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 08:18
...damn, I'm gettin' hungry too...Jiminy's startin' to look gooood...

Do you have a fondue set in your desk?

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 08:19
I like the frozen jalapeno poppers from TGIF - the cheddar ones, not the cream cheese. I really like the fried jalapeno sticks from Sonic. Those are great. Otherwise, some pizza rolls are always good, or fried mozzarella sticks

...damn, I'm gettin' hungry too...Jiminy's startin' to look gooood...


Sonic is a very sore subject w/ me! I loved that place, one of the best places in the world. They have everything for the man who's lookin' for a heart attack, but those bastards closed all of them in my area. ALL OF THEM!! I haven't had sonic since I don't know when.

I really need to borrow your cricket now.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 08:21
Sonic is a very sore subject w/ me! I loved that place, one of the best places in the world. They have everything for the man who's lookin' for a heart attack, but those bastards closed all of them in my area. ALL OF THEM!! I haven't had sonic since I don't know when.

I really need to borrow your cricket now.

Oh, man...that sucks. For a limited time they've got a double meat, double pepper-jack cheese burger with fried jalapeno strips and chipotle sauce...with a side of fried jalapeno strips.

You're livin' in the wrong state :D

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 08:23
I really need to borrow your cricket now.

Too late :laugh2: A bit dry, but satisfyingly crunchy.


And a rear leg makes a handy tooth pick :)

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 08:26
Oh, man...that sucks. For a limited time they've got a double meat, double pepper-jack cheese burger with fried jalapeno strips and chipotle sauce...with a side of fried jalapeno strips.

You're livin' in the wrong state :D

I could do w/out the chipotle sauce, but other than that...sounds good. What's even worse about the whole Sonic thing is that they FREQUENTLY advertise here. Quite depressing

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 08:27
Too late :laugh2: A bit dry, but satisfyingly crunchy.


And a rear leg makes a handy tooth pick :)


Did you drizzle it w/ chocolate?

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 08:41
Did you drizzle it w/ chocolate?

Unfortunately, I forgot my chocolate sauce this morning.

Now I've got a bit of cricket shell stuck under my gum. Damn thing won't come out.
Same thing happens to me when I eat popcorn...the little bits of popcorn shell get stuck under my gum...just about takes an excavating tool to get them out.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 08:45
I could do w/out the chipotle sauce, but other than that...sounds good. What's even worse about the whole Sonic thing is that they FREQUENTLY advertise here. Quite depressing

Well, they say chipotle sauce, but its pretty mild. The jalapeno strips are mild as well, but very sweet. One of the more interesting developments in deep frying that I've seen lately.

I figure you're just going to have to move. Being away from Sonic would suck...not good.

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 09:43
Unfortunately, I forgot my chocolate sauce this morning.

Now I've got a bit of cricket shell stuck under my gum. Damn thing won't come out.
Same thing happens to me when I eat popcorn...the little bits of popcorn shell get stuck under my gum...just about takes an excavating tool to get them out.


Wonder where I could buy chocolate covered crickets....hummmm....

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 09:45
I figure you're just going to have to move. Being away from Sonic would suck...not good.

I'm sure my wife would love my reasoning for wanting to move.


Although this is a complete and utter waste of good thread space, it is a lot better w/out dzolnutz posting up about flux capacitors and the space time continuum.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 09:49
I'm sure my wife would love my reasoning for wanting to move.


Although this is a complete and utter waste of good thread space, it is a lot better w/out dzolnutz posting up about flux capacitors and the space time continuum.

All ahead, warp 10, Mr. Sulu.

shortxjdoug
September 7th, 2006, 09:59
all this talk about crickets and food and heart attacks................

im going to zaxbys to get some chicken, be back soon :D

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 10:01
im going to zaxbys to get some chicken, be back soon :D


Greasy fried chicken? Sweet!!!

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 10:09
all this talk about crickets and food and heart attacks................

im going to zaxbys to get some chicken, be back soon :D

The wife and I are going out to lunch when she gets off work.


I hope I haven't ruined my apatite.

muduck18
September 7th, 2006, 10:18
BANG..THUD...clink...BEEEEEEEEEEP

OT
September 7th, 2006, 10:24
Soo..not to be an ass... but....do you even have a Jeep? Cause I still dont remember seeing any pictures...?
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=869452&postcount=65

Remember now?

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 10:26
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=869452&postcount=65

Remember now?

I assumed he was refering to droolzicali.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 10:28
BANG..THUD...clink...BEEEEEEEEEEP

Was that the thread being put out of its misery?

OT
September 7th, 2006, 10:29
I assumed he was refering to droolzicali.
I did too, which is why I gave a link for his photos.:dunce:

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 10:31
Was that the thread being put out of its misery?

I hope so. The suffering has gone on long enough.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 10:33
I could do w/out the chipotle sauce, but other than that...sounds good. What's even worse about the whole Sonic thing is that they FREQUENTLY advertise here. Quite depressing

Stop Whining!!

I can think of a burger I tend to enjoy!!:D

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 10:35
I did too, which is why I gave a link for his photos.:dunce:

Oh, damn. That's right! The blower :laugh2:

I completely forgot about that. I think maybe there was some psychotropic mold on that cricket...I'm starting to lose it.....mommy!

dzolcali
September 7th, 2006, 10:35
It's sticky enough, as it is.



So, what should I do about my dog?
put hot sauce on his paws...he will stop chewing on them. Seriously it works.

OT
September 7th, 2006, 10:38
put hot sauce on his paws...he will stop chewing on them. Seriously it works.
I've tried that.
Afterwards, all I wanted to do was dip his paw in some ranch and enjoy.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 10:40
put hot sauce on his paws...he will stop chewing on them. Seriously it works.

She, dude...she. It's a girl dog.

If I was going to put hot sauce on any part of her, she would be on my grill.

Actually, I tried cayenne pepper on the carpet in my apartment when she was a pup, to stop her chewing a hole in it. She loved it. Lapped it right up and kept on chewing. Cost me a bundle in deposit.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 10:45
this thread is like an out of control wild fire...

Lets add more fuel, need more useless pages come on guys...

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 10:47
i think its gonna rain

dzolcali
September 7th, 2006, 10:47
haha...i use that when my animals chewed on the furniture...anyone search baby soup yet the pics are pretty horrific...

Ok so why is it so wrong to ponder existance? I accept responsibility for my actions, in fact I'm a very nice person and go out of my way to help people all the time...but I do question existance. Why don't you guys channel your efforts into the president or someone who really deserves to be bashed for their ignorance...seriously. I'm getting bashed by guys who can't spell appetite and think that my sole validity as a human is whether or not I even own an xj...*tear*
anyone ever hear of a place called "cook out" they have the best meals you can get, 3.99 for a combo, you can get bbq grilled chicken sandwich, and two sides, sides are corn dogs, fries, hush puppies, coleslaw, chicken nuggets...etc.. they have 30 different shake varieties, 20 different cheesecakes, foot long chili cheese and bacon hot dogs, and other insanely heart attacking foods for cheap...I usually spend 7 dollars which is the equivalent to spending 14 on a mcdonalds dollar menu.

XJ Dreamin'
September 7th, 2006, 10:50
I'm getting bashed by guys who can't spell appetite

damn. my spell checker sucks.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 10:52
haha...i use that when my animals chewed on the furniture...anyone search baby soup yet the pics are pretty horrific...

Okay, lets use that sentence. First off always capitalize I, too many periods, and "haha" is not a complete sentece.



I feel this strange ominous feeling that I will be critiqued, but I know I cannot spell. :D

dzolcali
September 7th, 2006, 10:52
lol...i didn't mean that in a bad way I was just saying everyone makes mistakes. So Pluto isn't a planet anymore, the war is again about Oil...

gas prices are coming down because of that fall tax thing
and I got my phone back..plus my bday is this weekend things are looking up :)

OT
September 7th, 2006, 10:53
Okay, lets use that sentence. First off always capitalize I, too many periods, and "haha" is not a complete sentece.



I feel this strange ominous feeling that I will be critiqued, but I know I cannot spell. :D
Dumas.:dunce:

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 10:53
lol...i didn't mean that in a bad way I was just saying everyone makes mistakes. So Pluto isn't a planet anymore, the war is again about Oil...

gas prices are coming down because of that fall tax thing
and I got my phone back..plus my bday is this weekend things are looking up :)
and yet you still sound like a child.

Well I guess somethings will never change.

dzolcali
September 7th, 2006, 10:54
Okay, lets use that sentence. First off always capitalize I, too many periods, and "haha" is not a complete sentece.



I feel this strange ominous feeling that I will be critiqued, but I know I cannot spell. :D

I's look like this in my opinion ][ not this | so...i use a little i...so you can tell it's an i...usually.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 10:54
Dumas.:dunce:
I knew I would mess something simple up, I did it to boost your confidence OT :viking:

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 10:55
I's look like this in my opinion ][ not this | so...i use a little i...so you can tell it's an i...usually.
Ah so your oppinion overides proper grammar and spelling. I mean we all suck at it, but know about it, you just flat out make your own sh@t up.

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 10:55
I got my phone back

You called yourself a nice guy but you punched the phone guy in the head?

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 10:57
proper grammar and spelling. I mean we all suck at it

Speak for yourself.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 10:58
Speak for yourself.
:roll:

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 11:01
You called yourself a nice guy but you punched the phone guy in the head?


So he says. I called him out. I want pictures and/or video of the incident or a witness.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:04
So he says. I called him out. I want pictures and/or video of the incident or a witness.
I can see a chapelle's show coming to mind. Need his mom there with Id, and grandma, and 5 of his friends. Then I will believe him :D

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:06
I can see a chapelle's show coming to mind. Need his mom there with Id, and grandma, and 5 of his friends. Then I will believe him :D

Grandma: "Yep, that's my Dzol, always pissing on somebody."

MogifiedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:06
gas prices are coming down because of that fall tax thing


No. Nice try though. It's because of the November elections. I predict gas will be down below $2.00 a gallon so the Republicans can look have way decent again and the consumers will be appeased, but wait till the elections are over and by Christmas gas will be again higher than it is now.

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 11:06
I can see a chapelle's show coming to mind. Need his mom there with Id, and grandma, and 5 of his friends. Then I will believe him :D


I picture Charlie Murphy smacking Rick James' head off of the bar. "BITCH!"


On a side note......Grandma's will lie for ya.....I want a classmate that thinks he's a fawktard.

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:07
I'm going to fill my swimming pool with diesel.

shortxjdoug
September 7th, 2006, 11:08
Dayum! back from zaxby's and this monstrosity gained two more pages! maybe i just shouldn't leave the room anymore i might miss more craziness

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 11:09
I'm going to fill my swimming pool with diesel.


And then........?

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:10
I'm going to fill my swimming pool with diesel.
Make sure to have a cigar while you do it. It is the HOT thing to do now-a-days

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:10
Dayum! back from zaxby's and this monstrosity gained two more pages! maybe i just shouldn't leave the room anymore i might miss more craziness

I realized that earlier, sadly my life allows for it. Funny how that is.

shortxjdoug
September 7th, 2006, 11:11
o yeah and this is my 900th post might as well burn it in this fire, ill find someplace better to burn the 1000th

XJ&CHZ4ME
September 7th, 2006, 11:12
Huh...the classmates will lie for ya also...now if we can get the grandma and the classmate in seperate rooms, cover them with chicken gravey, turn loose a pack of cranked out wolverenes that are high on angel dust...I bet the truth will come out!!! works every time......:flamemad:

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:12
o yeah and this is my 900th post might as well burn it in this fire, ill find someplace better to burn the 1000th
"We didn't start the fire.."

lol man I cannot believe I remember that song, I think I am going to puke now, lol.

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 11:12
sadly my life allows for it.


Careful Jon, don't start to sound like whatever his username is. :)

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:12
Huh...the classmates will lie for ya also...now if we can get the grandma and the classmate in seperate rooms, cover them with chicken gravey, turn loose a pack of cranked out wolverenes that are high on angel dust...I bet the truth will come out!!! works every time......:flamemad:
what a waste of wolverines, they make good kabobs :D

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:13
Careful Jon, don't start to sound like whatever his username is. :)
hahaha Hey now I am the guy that can ummmmm, shit let me think of something

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 11:13
Huh...the classmates will lie for ya also...now if we can get the grandma and the classmate in seperate rooms, cover them with chicken gravey, turn loose a pack of cranked out wolverenes that are high on angel dust...I bet the truth will come out!!! works every time......:flamemad:


Are you dzol's little brother?

XJ&CHZ4ME
September 7th, 2006, 11:15
I dont think so...but my mom was a carney...so anything is possible........

OT
September 7th, 2006, 11:16
"We didn't start the fire.."

lol man I cannot believe I remember that song, I think I am going to puke now, lol.
What, weren't you like 3?

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:16
I dont think so...but my mom was a carney...so anything is possible........
Anyone else smell fish, oh wait that is bs...

Smells like a new screename and a new way to troll.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:17
What, weren't you like 3?
child prodigy

jeepinxj01
September 7th, 2006, 11:17
my mom was a carney...


"I have nothing further your honor." :confused1

OT
September 7th, 2006, 11:17
child prodigy
http://www.galenfrysinger.ws/movies/amadeus.jpg

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:17
Make sure to have a cigar while you do it. It is the HOT thing to do now-a-days

Not a problem, here's an example.

Last evening I was mowing my lawn with my old Kubota B6000E tractor, diesel 4wd, yada yada yada. I realized it was running low on fuel, so I shut it down and went to get the fuel can from the garage. I never bothered to buy a dedicated diesel can as I have a slew of red gasoline cans and HDPE is HDPE. Anyway, being as I'm getting up there in age and couldn't remember which can held what fuel and my sinuses were clogged from the grass clippings, I couldn't tell by smell either. So I picked the can that I thought had the diesel, poured a small puddle on the ground, and tried to light it with a propane torch. Definitely wasn't gasoline, since it didn't ignite. Diesel is perfectly safe to work with in a non-vaporized form, so I can definitely enjoy a fine cigar while filling my pool with go-juice.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:18
"I have nothing further your honor." :confused1
anyone else craving a beer now?

XJ&CHZ4ME
September 7th, 2006, 11:18
Jon and Kyle, It's Jeepin in MO" from RibiconEx you homos...I am f'n with ya!

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:19
http://www.galenfrysinger.ws/movies/amadeus.jpg
ya that was me alright, but my hair was pink :D


Not a problem, here's an example.

Last evening I was mowing my lawn with my old Kubota B6000E tractor, diesel 4wd, yada yada yada. I realized it was running low on fuel, so I shut it down and went to get the fuel can from the garage. I never bothered to buy a dedicated diesel can as I have a slew of red gasoline cans and HDPE is HDPE. Anyway, being as I'm getting up there in age and couldn't remember which can held what fuel and my sinuses were clogged from the grass clippings, I couldn't tell by smell either. So I picked the can that I thought had the diesel, poured a small puddle on the ground, and tried to light it with a propane torch. Definitely wasn't gasoline, since it didn't ignite. Diesel is perfectly safe to work with in a non-vaporized form, so I can definitely enjoy a fine cigar while filling my pool with go-juice.

I was intending no pun, was seeing if someone would bite, but nobody did :(

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:19
Excellent movie, Terry.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:20
Jon and Kyle, It's Jeepin in MO" from RibiconEx you homos...I am f'n with ya!

I think that is punishable by death Tyler...Or a 12 pack when I get down there to bug you to go wheelin.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:21
Excellent movie, Terry.
x2


seen it so many times, good though. Which was the one about Beethoven?

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:21
a pack of cranked out wolverenes

Last summer I was in Alaska hunting those things with my uncle. I used a flipping 12-gauge, what d'ya think?!

XJ&CHZ4ME
September 7th, 2006, 11:22
:cheers: Sounds good man..as long as you like hot cheap beer...oh wait, I save that for my friends...

The bastard that just sent my new carrier did not include teh "included" bearings....in the words of Kyle..."ASSHAT!"

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:22
x2


seen it so many times, good though. Which was the one about Beethoven?

I didn't see that one.

OT
September 7th, 2006, 11:22
x2


seen it so many times, good though. Which was the one about Beethoven?
http://www.operaheb.co.il/news/news2002/arch102502a.jpg

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:24
I didn't see that one.
oh...

and OT not THAT Beethoven, :roflmao:

Man I am tired it is 2 pm, it is nap time, lol...too much use of the brain for today.

shortxjdoug
September 7th, 2006, 11:25
Last summer I was in Alaska hunting those things with my uncle. I used a flipping 12-gauge, what d'ya think?!

did you kill any?

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:26
did you kill any?

Like 70 of 'em, they were attacking my cousins.

OT
September 7th, 2006, 11:26
What would you do, Doug?

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:28
What would you do, Doug?

Doug would hit on XJJeepinGirl.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:28
Doug would hit on XJJeepinGirl.
I can see that happening.
















course I do not think many would not, an XJ girl, most times when I say that I get this empty brained look of what are you on...

OT
September 7th, 2006, 11:29
I can see that happening.
That's right, she's your girlfriend.

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:31
That's right, she's your girlfriend.

well now I am confused.

OT
September 7th, 2006, 11:31
well now I am confused.
Sorry, online girlfriend.

You were the one chatting it up backchannel with her, weren't you?

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:33
Sorry, online girlfriend.

You were the one chatting it up backchannel with her, weren't you?

Remi was right! You BOD types can see our PM's!

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:33
Sorry, online girlfriend.
hahahaha I just talk to her once in awhile :roflmao:

I am just really against men hurting a woman in any way. Seen it happen too many times when I was younger and could never do anything about it, but I can now!:D

IcedXJ
September 7th, 2006, 11:34
Sorry, online girlfriend.

You were the one chatting it up backchannel with her, weren't you?

backchannel? wtf is that?

Lawn Cher'
September 7th, 2006, 11:34
I am just really against men hurting a woman in any way. Seen it happen too many times when I was younger and could never do anything about it, but I can now!:D

Who was that masked man?