Glass bottom XJ

[OT]

I've got the plexi, I know how I'm mounting it, as far
as a frame is concerned, I just need to see some
placement others have done (read: pictures).
Thanks.

[YELLAHEEP]

Please tell you mean windshield?

Or is yer neck broke and can't look out the side of yer rig.....

[OT]

Please tell you mean windshield?

Or is yer neck broke and can't look out the side of yer rig.....
No, I mean GLASS BOTTOM XJ.
You know, where one can see through the floor, so one doesn't have to get out to see where they are hung up.
For what do I need a windshield?

[mavrick]

I gotta see this!

[Chero-King]

Thats a fancy way of asking for a "Pic Request".

[OT]

Thats a fancy way of asking for a "Pic Request".
Keen eye.

[Jes]

No, I mean GLASS BOTTOM XJ.
You know, where one can see through the floor, so one doesn't have to get out to see where they are hung up.


Seat time.

[OT]

Seat time.
I like my cloth seats just fine, thanks.
Besides, plexiglass seats would do nothing for me, if I can't even see through the floor.

[OT]

Maybe Goatman will chime in, as I believe he's wanting to do something similar to his Notabudgetbuggy.

[MogifiedXJ]

No, I mean GLASS BOTTOM XJ.
You know, where one can see through the floor, so one doesn't have to get out to see where they are hung up.
For what do I need a windshield?
Just learn how to drive...then there would be no need for see though floors.























http://www.naxja.org/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[OT]

Yuk yuk yuk, yew gahs 'r soooo funie.

[YELLAHEEP]

I've got the plexi, I know how I'm mounting it, as far
as a frame is concerned, I just need to see some
placement others have done (read: pictures).
Thanks.


There's been others?

I actually thought you were being sarcastic - like poking fun at all the "I need a pic" posts...... You REALLY want plexi floors?

[OT]

There's been others?

I actually thought you were being sarcastic - like poking fun at all the "I need a pic" posts...... You REALLY want plexi floors?
I don't know if there's been others.
For all I know, myself, Goatman, and Brett are the only ones in NAXJA that even want to be able to see the rear driveline.
It's not a far out there idea, just an underutilized one.

[David Taylor]

http://pic.piczo.com/img/i198176755_81469.jpgI cut floor off right behind the seat's. It's great to be able to look down and see what the diff is hung on. You can see if you need to just move a little left or right or bump it. Out here no need for the plexi.

[OT]

I'd thought about that, but, unlike you guys, we have so many water crossings in some of the places we wheel, it would just end up a big wet mess.
Besides, I would have big port holes for water moccasins to get me.

[OT]

http://pic.piczo.com/img/i198176755_81469.jpgI cut floor off right behind the seat's. It's great to be able to look down and see what the diff is hung on. You can see if you need to just move a little left or right or bump it. Out here no need for the plexi.
Duh, I forgot you back halved it.:dunce:

I think I'm just going to cut out most of the rear floor (including the hump) and the storage area under where the rear seat would be.
Then, I'll frame it and lay in the plexi.

[Pat]

great idea, but i think you're going to have a hard time finding others that have done this instead of cutting the back of their rig off. why not do more cutting and tubing?

[OT]

great idea, but i think you're going to have a hard time finding others that have done this instead of cutting the back of their rig off. why not do more cutting and tubing?
Perhaps someday, but I'm happy with it's capabilities and haven't really put much thought into re-engineering it, just yet.
1. I know what this thing will do.
2. Why screw with a setup that works?

[HaleYes]

1. I know what this thing will do.
2. Why screw with a setup that works?

To find out what it won't do.:D

[Pat]

Perhaps someday, but I'm happy with it's capabilities and haven't really put much thought into re-engineering it, just yet.
1. I know what this thing will do.
2. Why screw with a setup that works?

both good points. i just know you are usually one with the sawzall, combined with that chassis you bought (and sold?), i thought maybe you had more tubage on the brain.

[nhrocker]

Will heat be an issue at all? I've been driving around with my interior pulled for a while and have been surprised with how hot the floors can get.

I have thought of adding a few "windows" to the underside, but didn't know how well it would turn out in a DD, both from heat and debris being kicked up at high speed. Any main reason you picked plexi over lexan? I have access to both, but I've heard conflicting reports on which is more durable under these conditions.

[Rev Den]

Have you thought about expanded metal? Plexi seems "flimsy"

Rev

[tealcherokee]

Have you thought about expanded metal? Plexi seems "flimsy"

Rev

thats what i had, expanded steel from home depot, i got a little wet, but, it was strudy enough to stand on

[BrettM]

I don't know if there's been others.
For all I know, myself, Goatman, and Brett are the only ones in NAXJA that even want to be able to see the rear driveline.
It's not a far out there idea, just an underutilized one.
I definitely majorly considered it when I was at 115" and hit my driveshaft semi-regularly. After going to 109" and pointing the pinion way up, I haven't felt it necessary. I didn't want it to see what I was hung up on (I can usually tell that without looking) but simply to see when my driveshaft was getting too close for comfort.

It would also be very helpful to be able to see the passenger side front tire, but i don't think the sight-lines would work if you plexi'd the passenger floorboard.

driveshafts:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/83/p8140763gb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2593/img0335ng8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[XJEEPER]

Perhaps someday, but I'm happy with it's capabilities and haven't really put much thought into re-engineering it, just yet.
1. I know what this thing will do.
2. Why screw with a setup that works?

That's the same logic that produced this.........

http://www.luvtruck.com/Gallery/DonnieChambers80RosevilleOH/images/airtime.jpg

[OT]

Good for them if they're having fun too.
My enthusiasm hasn't waned a bit with this thing.
Every time I take it out, I'm even more enthused with it.
Makes me feel good to wheel with rigs on 44"s and 49"s.:thumbup:

[HaleYes]

Good for them if they're having fun too.
My enthusiasm hasn't waned a bit with this thing.
Every time I take it out, I'm even more enthused with it.
Makes me feel good to wheel with rigs on 44"s and 49"s.:thumbup:

Hell, I'm on 30's and followed a YJ on 44's!
I even got witnesses!

:D

Seriously though, I completly understand what your saying.

[xjj33p3r]

I like the idea, but wouldn't there be a problem with visibilty, considering that the plexiglass will more than likely get dirty all the time? If you can install wipers also, you'd definately be the man.

[Mr.OverKill]

think star trek and Transparent Aluminum, hay, it was worth a try:)

on the serrious side, the combo of lexan or plexi and expanded sheet would proabably work well and help keep the water mocasins out but as earlier stated you are in a wet wheeling area and it might be a moot point when it gets dirty.

[IslanderXJ]

If your Xj had a rear wiper w/ the sprayer you coud relocate the sprayer to the undercarrige in some fashion that it would spray down the window. I think all it would take is some rerouting of the tube and some minor fabricaton of a bracket.
Hell who knows, this might turn out to be a great idea....














jk, it already sounds like a good idea :D

[GSequoia]

I can't wait for the goofy pics after he rolls it :cheers:

[HaleYes]

Can you incorporate carbon fiber in any way? Seems to be the new hotness.:)

[OT]

Well, you'll be able to see my carbon fiber re-enforced treated oak driveshaft through there.

[HaleYes]

Well, you'll be able to see my carbon fiber re-enforced treated oak driveshaft through there.

Point taken.

[Ramsey]

I guess no more skirts while wheeling?

[Ludakris]

I guess no more skirts while wheeling?

if this is what it takes...

[OT]

I guess no more skirts while wheeling?
You say that as if you could even fit into one of my seats.:roflmao:
Your hip would snap like a titanium twig.

[Ramsey]

I was talking about you:( I bet I could get in one, if I pryed it open with a highlift

[Captain Ron]

It took awhile, but this thread finally got to where it was going.

Plexi floors. So Beej can wrench on OT's drivetrain, and see up the skirts of fat chicks sitting in OT's rig. Brilliant. Where's the pics? :D

--ron

[Ghost]

I've got the plexi, I know how I'm mounting it, as far
as a frame is concerned, I just need to see some
placement others have done (read: pictures).
Thanks.
What next pop out roll over protectors?

[Mr.OverKill]

What next pop out roll over protectors?DONT TRY TO HI-JACK THIS THREAD WITH THAT COOL IDEA!! :D

[OT]

What next pop out roll over protectors?
Let me cal xjguy and see if he'll loan me his plans.




edit: Anybody else find any tech in this thread? Me neither. Off Topic or bust!

[XJ_Vikings]

put it in the advanced off topic engineering forum

[Ghost]

Let me cal xjguy and see if he'll loan me his plans.




edit: Anybody else find any tech in this thread? Me neither. Off Topic or bust!
Oh come on you gotta love his ideas!

[Chero-King]

Soooo.... still no pictures eh?

[OT]

Still haven't done it.
No time over the weekend.
When I do, you can rest assured, there'll be pictures.:photo:

[87manche]

how thick is the plexi?

[OT]

It's 3/16".

[87manche]

It's 3/16".
that's it? you're gonna have to do better if you want it to not break the instant it touches something.
Are you just cutting out small windows or doing the whole thing.
Keep in mind what's likely to happen once the sawzall intoxicates you :)

[GSequoia]

Soooo.... still no pictures eh?

Terry's a tease.

[OT]

that's it? you're gonna have to do better if you want it to not break the instant it touches something.
Are you just cutting out small windows or doing the whole thing.
Keep in mind what's likely to happen once the sawzall intoxicates you :)
I don't hit rocks with the floor back there.

[CRASH]

I don't hit rocks with the floor back there.


This thing got off to a bad start in my absence. Instead of simple plate, you need to be thinking flexible skylight. Point it at the offending obstacle and get an eyefull.

http://www.veluxusa.com/VELUXCommon/Resources/cache/81ee1826-6531-4b21-83db-72ef5bb2c6b3_I_PR_TCR_00002C_rev.jpg

[Lawn Cher']

Down periscope!

[87manche]

Down periscope!
brilliant, only add a modern twist.
a tilt/pan camera in an armored plexi enclosure. put one of those pimp my ride tv's in the dash, and a joystick to control it, put this in advanced fab, now we're getting seomwhere!

[Lawn Cher']

armored plexi enclosure

Polycarbonate please, not plexiglass.

[87manche]

Polycarbonate please, not plexiglass.
polycarbonate is dificult to work with. I was thinking a tube enclosure, like a belly turret, then put the plexi inside the tube, just to keep the random stray rock out.
I think it's the best plan of action, now you don't even have to turn around to look.

[87manche]

ok.
http://www.spyville.com/security-dome-camera.html
$40 camera, stick a skid on the front of it, it's 3" tall.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=205-048
best example of an lcd module, but you could find it for much cheaper than $170.
do it.

[IcedXJ]

brilliant, only add a modern twist.
a tilt/pan camera in an armored plexi enclosure. put one of those pimp my ride tv's in the dash, and a joystick to control it, put this in advanced fab, now we're getting seomwhere!

Ya just call them up. I am sure they can install a water bed with two 30" monitors in the back with a satellite dish. I guess you could throw Beej in back and let him watch (insert nasty porn title). No worries of looking up any guys skirt.

[OT]

Been working on the rear floor today......
:D:thumbup:

[Meanie5470]

now all you need to do is make it float, take out your back window and use your hatch as a transom for an outboard lol. Then it would really be all terrain AND youd be able to give people rides. Glass bottom boat jeep thing.

[hadfield4wd]

now all you need to do is make it float, take out your back window and use your hatch as a transom for an outboard lol. Then it would really be all terrain AND youd be able to give people rides. Glass bottom boat jeep thing.
You have obviously not seen pictures of his Jeep.

[Gil BullyKatz]

You have obviously not seen pictures of his Jeep.


Obviously...


:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[OT]

Here's what I had done when I took a break:

The outline:
http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=490248&img=8135HPIM1731.JPG

The cut:
http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=490249&img=HPIM1736.JPG

What I wanted to be able to see through:
http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=490250&img=HPIM1734.JPG

So that's what's under there!:
http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=490251&img=HPIM1737.JPG

Halfway done:
http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=490252&img=HPIM1739.JPG

[OT]

Obviously...


:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
x2.:roflmao::roflmao:

[XJ_ranger]

Halfway done:
http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=490252&img=HPIM1739.JPG


whats the torque spec for that?

:D :D

[Ghost]

Um, didn't you jsut toast a major unibody suport there sport?

[shortxjdoug]

Um, didn't you jsut toast a major unibody suport there sport?

the plexi's got it all braced up again :D there isn't much left anyway if the jeep was gonna fold it would have done so already

[OT]

Um, didn't you jsut toast a major unibody suport there sport?
Who cares?:dunno:
It's well caged and gets more cage every month.

[OT]

Anyway, it's done, except for the caulk and a rubber boot over the hump.

http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=490333&img=HPIM1742.JPG

The money shot:
http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=490334&img=HPIM1740.JPG

[BrettM]

very cool!

take some trail pics of how dirty it gets

[rocklandxjer]

looks pretty good, but damn, that woody shaft is gettin pretty torn up lol maybe in need of lathing up a new one soon lol

na, that will last a while, but does it get off balance being so cut up?

[Phantom]

Great job, you just removed some of the XJ's backbone!!??......it does look good though.

[WVXJ]

holy shitoli!!! Did you just do that???!!!

Definitely unique!

[IXNAYXJ]

When I first read this thread (the beginning) I thought you were trying to bait people into a debate over XJs and the Tacos that love them...or something. But you actually did it.

Wow. Good job!!!

Your next mission, should you choose to accept it, is to adapt a stock Cherokee rear wiper to the plexiglass when it gets muddy. That would really complete the abortion. :D

-----Matt-----

[Meanie5470]

You have obviously not seen pictures of his Jeep.
correct sir...

link to said pics?

[Ramsey]

correct sir...

link to said pics?
You really dont want to do that to your eyes.

[jeepinandy]

Looks like you need new wood...

Props to ya for doing it. No more asking what you're stuck on...

:cheers:

[87manche]

shoulda done a periscope!
I like it.
seriously though, are you planning on reinforcing the area?

[Pat]

what percent window tinting did you use?

looks good.

[OT]

very cool!

take some trail pics of how dirty it gets
Thanks and will do.
Maybe I'll get under there and put on some RainX.

looks pretty good, but damn, that woody shaft is gettin pretty torn up lol maybe in need of lathing up a new one soon lol

na, that will last a while, but does it get off balance being so cut up?
You should see the new one I'm making out of papier mache'.

Great job, you just removed some of the XJ's backbone!!??......it does look good though.
Thanks.
The backbone was only in there for looks, anymore.

holy shitoli!!! Did you just do that???!!!

Definitely unique!
Yup, I did.
And thanks, I think.....

When I first read this thread (the beginning) I thought you were trying to bait people into a debate over XJs and the Tacos that love them...or something. But you actually did it.

Wow. Good job!!!

Your next mission, should you choose to accept it, is to adapt a stock Cherokee rear wiper to the plexiglass when it gets muddy. That would really complete the abortion.

-----Matt-----
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Tacos?:confused:
But, thanks!
Also, maybe I could adapt those little Mercedes headlight wipers to take care of my dirty work.:thumbup:

link to said pics?
Certainly.
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=874127&postcount=1164

You really dont want to do that to your eyes.
:moon:

Looks like you need new wood...

Props to ya for doing it. No more asking what you're stuck on...


Thanks.
See reply to rocklanderxj about the DS.
And knowing what's down there is precisely why I did it.
Sometimes there's that one stump or rock that you just don't see.

I like it.
seriously though, are you planning on reinforcing the area?
Thank you.
I might add some more tubing between the feet of the b-pillar and the feet of the cross, to make up for the lackabackbone.

what percent window tinting did you use?

looks good.
Well, it's gonna be a layer of 20% followed by a layer of 5%, so the cops can't see in.:eyes:

[Root Moose]

Add some disco lights to flash on the ground and let's go night wheeling!

Genius or insanity? Who can tell? Who cares?

Add some hinges and you have a pretty decent ice fishing hut.

:D

[Mr.OverKill]

Add some hinges and you have a pretty decent ice fishing hut.

:Dhay Einstine, look at his pics :twak:

[OT]

:shiver:

[Glenn B]

hay Einstine, look at his pics :twak:

I looked at the pics, but saw no hinge. Can you point it out for us slower types? Thanks.
:wierd:

[Root Moose]

hay Einstine, look at his pics :twak:

What's your deal? Not socialized as a puppy or what? There's no need to be a snot.

What hinges? The images above looks like steel strapping with lots of bolts through it and RTV/caulk underneath. Show me a hinge line.

[BrettM]

the rest of his rig is rather... um... "lacking" in the weather-proofing, so I doubt it would be "pretty decent ice fishing hut"

sheesh, dense group tonight... long weekend?

[Root Moose]

the rest of his rig is rather... um... "lacking" in the weather-proofing, so I doubt it would be "pretty decent ice fishing hut"

sheesh, dense group tonight... long weekend?

No carpet so I figured he'd just light a small fire in the rear cargo area.

This appears to be a humour impaired zone...

[Matt S.]

I like it honestly.... maybe I could add that to the list of to do's to the XJ.

1. Try to remember where it is stored
2. Try to find the keys
3. Put glass bottom in my floor

[Mr.OverKill]

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=874127&postcount=1164

:eyes:
ok for the touchy people who didnt look close enough, here is the link, look at the " Up Dated Photos" i think i would rather keep my a$$ in an igloo weather the XJ had hinges and a perriscope or not, it would let the wind in and keep any heat out :shiver:

please dont get offended by my Einstine comment, i dont play well with others :D

[Glenn B]

ok for the touchy people who didnt look close enough, here is the link, look at the " Up Dated Photos" i think i would rather keep my a$$ in an igloo weather the XJ had hinges and a perriscope or not, it would let the wind in and keep any heat out :shiver:

please dont get offended by my Einstine comment, i dont play well with others :D

Makes more sense now. Wait, .... or not. Well, the pics explain the post comments, but the sense part... Hmmm. Have to think on that a while. :shiver:

[PapaPump]

ok for the touchy people who didnt look close enough, here is the link, look at the " Up Dated Photos" i think i would rather keep my a$$ in an igloo weather the XJ had hinges and a perriscope or not, it would let the wind in and keep any heat out :shiver:

please dont get offended by my Einstine comment, i dont play well with others :D

the most offensive part about the Einstein comment was that you spelled the guy's name wrong :D

[Mr.OverKill]

the most offensive part about the Einstein comment was that you spelled the guy's name wrong :Dbut was it intentional,




or not :lecture:

[feerocknok]

Would the peole of the forum be able to get these pics re-hotlinked?

[CanMan]

Would the peole of the forum be able to get these pics re-hotlinked?

Here is one.

http://myxj.net/trail/WinterFest2007/Friday/photos/IMG_1902.JPG

And another...

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p320/hintonsooner/is-16.jpg

[thebrick]

...reminds me of the Tex Avery cartoon...'car of tomorrow'..."this car has a glass bottom so you can see if you knew the guy you just ran over..."