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Surge above 40mph

Frank Z

NAXJA Forum User
Location
Colorado Springs
Guys I'm out in Moab and could use an assist.

Problem:
Engine surges by 250-300 RPM at any speed above 40 and only when cruising in Overdrive (AW4). If I accelerate and get into passing gear the rpm's climb and hold steady. As soon as the rpm's drop back down it starts happening again.

FYI...No Check Engine Light

What I've tried:
Replaced the IAC...no change.
Replaced the TPS...no change

Crank and Cam Sensors are both only a few months old.
Fuel pump is about a month old.

No problems crawling around on the rocks, just on the road in OD.

Anyone got a cure?
 
Wow...back from the dead!!

What's happened since this was posted.? Hmmmm....
On the way home my motor crapped out 10 miles north of Moab. Cam lobe failure.
Rebuilt and wheeled throughout the summer and still had the occasional surging issue.
Lost a valve spring and that caused another partial rebuild. Still surging occasionally.

So I'm now 100% certain that it is not a mechanical issue related directly to the engine.

Torque converter locking and unlocking? Your guess is as good as mine.

This is what the FSM says abut PCM input at Cruising Speed:
CRUISE MODE​
When the engine is at operating temperature, this
is a Closed Loop mode. At cruising speed, the powertrain
control module (PCM) receives inputs from:​
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Air conditioning select signal (if equipped)

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Air conditioning request signal (if equipped)

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Battery voltage

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Engine coolant temperature sensor

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Crankshaft position sensor

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Intake manifold air temperature sensor

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Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor

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Throttle position sensor (TPS)

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Camshaft position sensor signal (in the distributor)

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Park/neutral switch (gear indicator signal—auto.
trans. only)

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Oxygen (O2S) sensors
Based on these inputs, the following occurs:

Voltage is applied to the fuel injectors with the
ASD relay via the PCM. The PCM will then adjust
the injector pulse width by turning the ground circuit
to each individual injector on and off.

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The PCM monitors the O2S sensor input and
adjusts air-fuel ratio. It also adjusts engine idle
speed through the idle air control (IAC) motor.

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The PCM adjusts ignition timing by turning the
ground path to the coil on and off.

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The PCM operates the A/C compressor clutch
through the clutch relay. This happens if A/C has
been selected by the vehicle operator and requested

by the A/C thermostat.
 
Torque converter locking and unlocking? Your guess is as good as mine.

That's my guess too. The clues are that it only happens when you are in overdrive, and isn't the RPM differential that you are experiencing similar to the normal difference when it drops into overdrive?

 
wouldn't hurt to check the wiring circuit for the brake light/ cruise control switch. I know the converter will unlock with slight brake pedal application, so a loose connection or faulty wire could cause yer problems.
 
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