San Diego run corral canyon

[homebrew]

Mike try'd this in the for sale section, I'll try it here. lol. This will probably be the last time I get to wheel before I deploy so I am for sure going. This is an awsome run that can at times can be very challenging, Some good size rocks that prove challenging. But with a good spoter not a prob.

Hi everyone. I am planning to get out to Corral Canyon for a run on Sunday March 2. I know the date conflicts with some other events happening in So Cal, but for anyone in who doesn't already have plans, Corral Canyon is a pretty fun run.

I was thinking of meeting at 4 Corners staging area around 10:30-11:00 am.

Corral Canyon is about 1 hour or so out from San Diego. Here's a map to get there:
http://www.sdorc.org/ohvareas/c_canyon/cc_map.jpg

And some more info:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/re...v/corral.shtml

Also for anyone who is interested in guns, I plan on hitting up Carrizo Creek for some target shooting before wheeling. I'm thinking of being at Carizzo Creek at about 8:00 to 8:30 until about 10:00, then heading to Corral Canyon to be there about 10:30.


I'm flexible on the times, so if you want to come, let me know what time works best.

Mike
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[lamula]

That sounds like fun. Where is this carrizo creek you are talking about??

[ocean_jet]

That sounds like fun. Where is this carrizo creek you are talking about??

It's in Jacumba about 20 miles east of Buckman Springs Road (which is the exit for Corral Canyon).

Map:
http://tinyurl.com/yoj8ng

Info:
http://www.carrizocreekrange.org/

[SanDiegoXJ]

I'd like to come...although I'd like to go to TDS too...but both depend on whether I can get the Jeep smogged or get a reg extension in time....ooh, and tires would be cool....front tires are like racing slicks atm

[mikedashg]

what trail(s)?

[ocean_jet]

what trail(s)?

Last time we went in Gun Slinger (11) and met up with Bronco Peak (3), and took that back out. It took us about 3+ hours with 2 trucks.

Trail Map:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/recreation/ohv/corralmap.shtml

[mikedashg]

Corral Canyon OHV Trails (Descanso Ranger District)

Corral Canyon and Wildomar OHV areas are Closed until further notice due to Extreme Forest Use Level Restrictions.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/recreation/ohv/corral.shtml

[mikedashg]

I guess part of it has been re-opened.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/recreation/ohv/closure-map.shtml

[homebrew]

That closer was as of March 07. We ran in last Dec 07 At least the trails we ran were open.

[WickedOnE530]

that sounds fun but... will stock jeep make it through?

[homebrew]

Got hooks?

[zeelaagee]

this sounds like a perfect run for testing the new lift... but i am concerned that 3.5" and 31"s might be a little undergunned and i don't want to be the new guy holding up the scene.

i'm interested though!

[homebrew]

Think that mike only has 31's or 32's just need to be brave not affraid of the skinny pedal and trust the spotter when needed. And have recovery points. There was only one part that we hit that we really had a hard time on, we'll just keep you in the middle incase you need a tug.

[ocean_jet]

The Forest Service doesn't update their site much... best is to call. I know it's open, but I'll call and check next week just to be sure.


I run a 4.5" in 31.5's with stock gearing and open/open... and just that one hard spot slowed me down much. I did crunch the rocker panel a bit. Without armor, I'd say there's a decent chance of some damage...

[homebrew]

yeah but it was fun damage

[Dezertdog]

Hey can a TJ come along?

2" lift - 32" rubber. no lockers!:doh:

[homebrew]

Sure why not lol come on down. I'll bring a bunch of mre's for lunch

[WickedOnE530]

haha mre's lol... i have no hooks by the way.

[mikedashg]

haha mre's lol... i have no hooks by the way.

Hmm, stock with no hooks, have fun on the easy outer loop trail. ha!

Personally, I wouldn't go anywhere without proper attachments, even if you were lifted and locked front and rear. That goes double with stockers. But it's homebrew's thing, so it's his call.

How about a hitch in the back? At least you could be pulled out of something.

[homebrew]

gotta have recovery points a hitch at the very least. I proved that nessessity my very first time out.
May be a better Idea to ride shot gun that way you can experience what a rig that is properly equiped is like rather than risk your ride getting trashed due to lack of clearence and damage from strap pulls to unsafe recovery points.

[zeelaagee]

The Forest Service doesn't update their site much... best is to call. I know it's open, but I'll call and check next week just to be sure.


I run a 4.5" in 31.5's with stock gearing and open/open... and just that one hard spot slowed me down much. I did crunch the rocker panel a bit. Without armor, I'd say there's a decent chance of some damage...

i have the rockers and tank squared away, but i still need to mount my hitch, mount up the cb system, and do something about the front recovery points. i have the rear hitch in hand and want to do a front receiver for the front for recovery... but i should be able to get that done in a week's time.

i 'll have a couple of seasoned buddies riding with me if i make it there.

sounds like it's going to be a fun little run.

[SanDiegoXJ]

Well since my slicks are no slicker than Homebrews, guess I'm in!

I'll also have empty seats if anyone needs.

[homebrew]

Same here shotgunners welcome ecspecially if they are pretty, and dont have a lot a facial hair lol

[tripdog]

I'm 15 minutes away in Campo, so I'll go. Might even show up for the target shooting. :-)

[homebrew]

As this gets a little closer I was thinking about meeting up before the run for breakfast then carovaning up there. Yes no maybe so. maybe bet like 830.

[SanDiegoXJ]

food is good!

[Dezertdog]

I have recovery points front and back.
Just watched some video on the trail. Looks like a may need them! :laugh3:

Never been on a trail like this one. You guys okay with that?
I don't want to hold anyone up.

[homebrew]

getting unstuck is the best part. lol we all get stuck from time to time that is why we wheel as a group. I'm not brave enough to go out by myself just incase something should happen. Got stuck in a mud pit once while out by myself worst feeling stuck with no help.

[SanDiegoXJ]

...Got stuck in a mud pit once while out by myself worst feeling stuck with no help.

Hehe, I can top that....

Went wheelin in the Everglades with a buddy and got stuck in a 4' deep gator hole...had to leave the Jeep overnight, walk out, and bring help the next day. When we got back to the rig, the occupant of said gator hole had relocated occupancy to my Wrangler. :rattle:

[Dezertdog]

In that case, count me in!!! :roll: :clap:
I'm liking the breakfast idea too. But I'll be coming from Victorville and I don't think I want to get up THAT early.
(loved the gator story)

Scott

[homebrew]

In that case, count me in!!! :roll: :clap:
I'm liking the breakfast idea too. But I'll be coming from Victorville and I don't think I want to get up THAT early.
(loved the gator story)

Scott

What time do you plan on coming down? thinking bout meeting in La mesa. I may go scout a location/s this week and post for a vote on where to meet.

[Dezertdog]

What time do you plan on coming down? thinking bout meeting in La mesa. I may go scout a location/s this week and post for a vote on where to meet.

Hmmm, if we are hitting the trail about 10:00 or 10:30. I guess I could get down there around 8:30 or 9:00... 9:30?

[Dezertdog]

Here is my rig...
It's just a hair above stock. :eyes:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh86/dezertdog1/JeepShots014.jpg

[SanDiegoXJ]

hey, I should have asked first, but...do we need any kind of pass to do this? Like some vehicle permit form the forestry department or anything? As I recall, you need a sticker of some sort for Big Bear, and I don't wanna be the gimp that shows up unprepared.

BTW, nice lookin wrangler. I would highly suggest looking for some rocker panel armor for it though. Being a wrangler, everybody and their brother makes parts for it, but OYR (if they're still around) makes some pretty affordable and hella well built rocker guards.

[Dezertdog]

hey, I should have asked first, but...do we need any kind of pass to do this? Like some vehicle permit form the forestry department or anything? As I recall, you need a sticker of some sort for Big Bear, and I don't wanna be the gimp that shows up unprepared.

BTW, nice lookin wrangler. I would highly suggest looking for some rocker panel armor for it though. Being a wrangler, everybody and their brother makes parts for it, but OYR (if they're still around) makes some pretty affordable and hella well built rocker guards.

Yeah rocker guards are definately on the list. I don't think I can get them before the run though. Still gotta get a CB first.

[SanDiegoXJ]

Oh hehe, I didn't necessarily mean by next weekend. =) I just saw all that pretty paint. I also built my wrangler on a budget, so price was important to me. As I recall, my OYR panels were shipped to Miami for under $200 total cost. They're manufactured in Half Moon Bay, CA so they couldn't have been shipped much further and they weigh a friggin' ton! But I tell ya, They took some pretty hard hits and never budged. And no, I'm not a salesman for them, but if i wasn't so damn lazy I would have written several testimonials. =) But again, I don't even know if they're still around. I haven't had a YJ for almost 5 years and OYR don't make squayt for a cherokee.

[ocean_jet]

hey, I should have asked first, but...do we need any kind of pass to do this? Like some vehicle permit form the forestry department or anything?



http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/recreation/ohv/corral.shtml#green
An Adventure Pass (http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/passes/index.shtml) may be required for all vehicles parked anywhere on the Cleveland National Forest. The pass IS required in OHV areas. Please contact the district office (http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/contact/index.shtml) to find out where you will need one in order to park.



That's under the "camping" section so I don't know if you'll need one for day use of the trails. I'll call the forest service this week and get details.

[homebrew]

I didnt get one last time should I have?

[tripdog]

I have a map/brochure on the area and it says, "An adventure pass is required for all vehicles PARKED anywhere on the Cleveland National Forest, this includes OHV campgrounds or trailheads."

I think we'd be ok if we never stopped for lunch or broke on the trail but it's probably a good idea to get them.:)

The corner store by my house sells them, if you guys want to get the passes I'll buy them for the group once we get a solid vehicle count. I think they're 5 bucks.

[Dezertdog]

Oh hehe, I didn't necessarily mean by next weekend. =) I just saw all that pretty paint. I also built my wrangler on a budget, so price was important to me. As I recall, my OYR panels were shipped to Miami for under $200 total cost. They're manufactured in Half Moon Bay, CA so they couldn't have been shipped much further and they weigh a friggin' ton! But I tell ya, They took some pretty hard hits and never budged. And no, I'm not a salesman for them, but if i wasn't so damn lazy I would have written several testimonials. =) But again, I don't even know if they're still around. I haven't had a YJ for almost 5 years and OYR don't make squayt for a cherokee.

Oh, I knew you didn't mean by this weekend, but after watching the videos of the trail. I wish I could have them by then..:looney:
Bushwacker makes some under the name of Trailarmor but they are only plastic and the use adhesive to mount them. Don't know if they would actaully serve any real purpose. They are affordable though.

[lamula]

so let me get straight.
1 breakfast ---in
2 shooting---- out
3 caravan---- in
4 wheeling---- way in

Does that sound about right.

[Dezertdog]

so let me get straight.
1 breakfast ---in
2 shooting---- out
3 caravan---- in
4 wheeling---- way in

Does that sound about right.

Sounds totally right to me!! :clap:
I can get an adventure pass right here at Big 5 in Apple Valley. I'll get one this week.
Scott

[markw]

What's being shot? I _really_ need to finish my mega's. This is tempting since I live a little over a half hour away. MikeG you up for it? Wonder if Kevin's ribs are up to it?

[XJsurf]

So since I've gotten the Jeep back to 4wd this weekend, count me in. Let me run through what I've got and if I can get some feedback to whether I'll be able to run the trails. I have tow hooks on the front, reciever on the back. I had a D ring shackle on it, but somebody stole my D ring on base. Locked front and rear. No gps or Cb. Will I be alright right All terrains out there?

[XJsurf]

Is it cool if I bring my kids?

[homebrew]

Yes and yes to your questions . I would recommend CB's for everyone, but know that not everyone has the cheese to afford one, My recommendation to deal with this is at a minimum having a cb in the trail leader and tail gunner that way if anyone in between gets stuck or needs a spotter they are not lost.

[ocean_jet]

I didnt get one last time should I have?

It seems to me that it is for people that are parking their vehicle and leaving it... like for camping... but I'll find out Monday for sure if we need them.



What's being shot?

Nothing special. I will have a 12 guage and a case of clay pigeons... and 2 .22's and a steel .22 target.




So since I've gotten the Jeep back to 4wd this weekend, count me in. Let me run through what I've got and if I can get some feedback to whether I'll be able to run the trails. I have tow hooks on the front, reciever on the back. I had a D ring shackle on it, but somebody stole my D ring on base. Locked front and rear. No gps or Cb. Will I be alright right All terrains out there?

Sounds like you'll be fine on recovery points. Do you have a lift/bigger tires or any armor? It is pretty rocky in some spots. With no lift or armor, I would say there is a chance at some damage... but being locked will definately help get up the hill.

No problem on the GPS or CB.



Is it cool if I bring my kids?

Sure.

[tripdog]

What's being shot? I _really_ need to finish my mega's. This is tempting since I live a little over a half hour away. MikeG you up for it? Wonder if Kevin's ribs are up to it?

Not sure what Homebrew was gonna bring to shoot but I was going to bring a 12 GA, .357, and maybe a Mini 14...

Usually there's lot's of stuff already out there to shoot at but I'm sure we can bring some fun targets.:explosion

[XJsurf]

It seems to me that it is for people that are parking their vehicle and leaving it... like for camping... but I'll find out Monday for sure if we need them.





Nothing special. I will have a 12 guage and a case of clay pigeons... and 2 .22's and a steel .22 target.






Sounds like you'll be fine on recovery points. Do you have a lift/bigger tires or any armor? It is pretty rocky in some spots. With no lift or armor, I would say there is a chance at some damage... but being locked will definately help get up the hill.

No problem on the GPS or CB.





Sure.

I'm running RE 4.5 w/ drop brackets and 285 Nitto's. And for armour I just have the Transfer case skid plate.

[ocean_jet]

Not sure what Homebrew was gonna bring to shoot but I was going to bring a 12 GA, .357, and maybe a Mini 14...


I'm not sure if homebrew is coming out to the range.

[ocean_jet]

I'm running RE 4.5 w/ drop brackets and 285 Nitto's. And for armour I just have the Transfer case skid plate.

Ok... nevermind! :D

[markw]

Here's some vids we took out there in May.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8880410726860255924

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6976604459687050359

[Dezertdog]

Is it me?
I can't get the videos to play...:geek:

[tripdog]

Plays for me...and looks fun!

[XJsurf]

Just wanted to add something, before I make the trip out this weekend. This is my first time solid offroading. I've done my fair share of illegal or urban wheeling as I like to call it. My real experience with this rig is 0. Tips, thoughts or advice??? Just wanted to be open, instead of showing and being a clown

[ocean_jet]

Just wanted to add something, before I make the trip out this weekend. This is my first time solid offroading. I've done my fair share of illegal or urban wheeling as I like to call it. My real experience with this rig is 0. Tips, thoughts or advice??? Just wanted to be open, instead of showing and being a clown

In my opinion, just have fun. Sounds like your rig is plenty ready for this run... and being locked/locked, you may have to lead us up the hill... and pull some of us open/open trucks up with you!!

For me, this will really only be my second time wheeling at Corral Cayon, and I think it is Homebrew's 2nd time there as well. Sounds like a couple guys (markw and mikedashg) have more experience on those trails. Just follow the truck in front of you, and someone will spot when it gets rocky.



Wooohooo, I am getting excited for this run!!

[homebrew]

Can we get a head count?
I will be installing a gas tank skid this week much needed becasue I almost crushed the tank last time luckly the rock jumped up and hit my hitch instead.

This is only my second time.

[WickedOnE530]

i will go shotgun.. i have been with my older brother a few times in his jeep (87 2dr) we were in tahoe thow. but im always down for riding shotgun.... the more exp the better.

[WickedOnE530]

ill bring some mre's as well... how many should i bring? 2-3 cases? let me know.... o and i willl need a date time and some directions...

[ocean_jet]

I just called the Ranger, and she told me that Corral Canyon IS open, and adventure passes are required if we stop at all.

She basically said if we keep moving through the trail without stopping, we're ok without them, but if we want to stop at all and hang out, then we are required to have them.

I will have one.


Head Count:
1 - homebrew
2 - ocean_jet

[ocean_jet]

Directions:
I8 to Buckman Springs Rd. Exit
Go right on Buckman Springs road about 3 1/2 - 4 miles. You'll see a fire station on the right. About 1/4 mile past the fire station, there will be sign to Corral Canyon OHV Area. Follow sign to right. About 6 miles up that road you'll come to 4 Corners, which is the staging area.

4 Corners is in the northmost section of this map:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/recreation/ohv/corralmap.shtml



Date: Sunday March 2.
Time: Meet at Four Corners around 10:30. We'll try to hit the trail no later than 11:00 (does that work for everyone?)

[XJsurf]

for head count purposes:
XJsurf
2 kids

[homebrew]

thinking about meeting at the freeway exit to wait for straglers then play follow the leader to four corners. I was a little lost last time.

What time does the range open? thinking that we should start a little earlier just because it took us like 3 hrs to do the little part that we did. Its looking like we will have a good sized group which will slow things down a bit. JMO any other thoughts?

[XJsurf]

So coming from Point Loma, where can I pick up a one day pass, which seems the way to go. It would be interesting to see my kids use the bathrooom out of a moving vehicle.

[homebrew]

https://secure.kinsail.com/partners/socal/index.asp?p=socal&pt=store

above link will allow you to buy the pass online, but they charge for shipping. Also provides a list of stores

[ocean_jet]

What time does the range open? thinking that we should start a little earlier just because it took us like 3 hrs to do the little part that we did. Its looking like we will have a good sized group which will slow things down a bit. JMO any other thoughts?

You're probably right.

The range is always open... it's just an barren piece of land... but it is about 90 minutes from my house, so I was already planning on leaving my house before 7:00 am to get there by 8:30... I don't want to leave much earlier than that.

I could hit the range after the wheeling if you want to start earlier. I would just need to leave my clay pigeons at the staging area (they wouldn't survive past the first rock!)... if you want to do that, we could plan on leaving the staging area by 9:30-10:00... if that works for everyone?


I'm pretty flexible...

[SanDiegoXJ]

Damn, this thread moved in the last 48 hours!

Great vids! I'm excited!! I'm in!

Gonna try for new tires on Saturday morning, but I also realized that my front DS vibe is from a loose front output yoke...I'm guessing it's probably a bad bearing, and I was wondering if anyone might have a place and time on Sat to assist in some last minute repairs....i.e., a freeze plug in a crappy spot, a new front output bearing in the 231, and a general once over on torquing bolts down? If not, I'll try and bang it out myself...either way though, I'm comin'!

Although, I will say, after watching those vids, I'm only locked in the front with 260-x u-joints...hope there's bypasses =(

[SanDiegoXJ]

So coming from Point Loma, where can I pick up a one day pass, which seems the way to go. It would be interesting to see my kids use the bathrooom out of a moving vehicle.

Big 5 on Convoy should sell them too....maybe on Rosecrans as well

[mikedashg]

What's being shot? I _really_ need to finish my mega's. This is tempting since I live a little over a half hour away. MikeG you up for it? Wonder if Kevin's ribs are up to it?

Yeah, I've got this one on the calendar, good chance I'll make it.

[mikedashg]

I just called the Ranger, and she told me that Corral Canyon IS open, and adventure passes are required if we stop at all.

She basically said if we keep moving through the trail without stopping, we're ok without them, but if we want to stop at all and hang out, then we are required to have them.

I will have one.


Stopped AT ALL? That's ridiculous. I've wheeled at Corral Canyon a million times and never got an adventure pass. In my book the adventure pass is if you are going to PARK your vehicle, ie leave it. Like park it for camping, or parking and go hiking. Stopping on the trail for lunch, or stopping to fix your broken junk does not count. Just because your stopped doesn't mean your parking your vehicle there. On top of which, if we stop it all, it's not for that long. And on top of that, I highly doubt the ranger is going to be going down to Bronco looking for guys who are eating lunch. That type of stopping falls under "activities incidental to through travel" (see below).

I'm not saying I'm against the pass or anything, the forest could always use the money, go a head and get one, but I'm not. I would definitely get one if I thought I might park my vehicle to go do something else other then use the restroom, eat lunch, photo op, etc. But since I'm just traveling through the forest, rules say I don't need one...

from: http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/ap/questions-and-answers.shtml#exceptions

"Are there exceptions to the need for an Adventure Pass?

You will not need a pass when traveling through the Forest and not stopping, when stopped for activities incidental to through travel (stretch break, photo-opportunity, use a restroom), when you are parked at your residence or at an organization camp, or within areas covered by special use permits. A Pass is not required for people stopping for information at Ranger stations, visitor centers and other Forest Service offices, or for off-road vehicles (displaying California State OHVMR Green or Red stickers) while they are parked within a designated OHV route or area. Volunteers and educational institutions, such as schools that bring children to the Forest for an outing, are also exempt..."

[ocean_jet]

I agree mikedashg, with everything you said.

I was just passing on what the ranger told me.

She specifically said "If you stop to hang out at all, you need the pass".

[tripdog]

I'm not worried about it either way, but they are only 5 bucks. :shiver: Some of the Rangers out here will invite you up to the tower and make conversation, others will want to write tickets for stupid things. It's a roll of the dice...;)

It's their job to sell passes, whatever let's just wheel. Plus the rangers will be very out gunned, HA HA THAT'S A JOKE PEOPLE.


Tom

[Dezertdog]

Whoa, I got the videos to work. Had to change a setting.
That trail looks like fun!!
I think my tow hooks are gonna get some use.:laugh:

For the head count:
Dezertdog and son (red TJ)

Hey it's going to take me about 2.5 hours to get to 4 corners.
So, Please finalize the times.
Where and when?
Is breakfast out?
If so I will allow time to stop on the way.
I will have an adventure pass. It's only $5...
I have an M44 Russian bolt action. But wuth the drive I have, I'll pass on the shooting.
Have I left anything out???:rolleyes:
Scott

[Dezertdog]

You're probably right.

The range is always open... it's just an barren piece of land... but it is about 90 minutes from my house, so I was already planning on leaving my house before 7:00 am to get there by 8:30... I don't want to leave much earlier than that.

I could hit the range after the wheeling if you want to start earlier. I would just need to leave my clay pigeons at the staging area (they wouldn't survive past the first rock!)... if you want to do that, we could plan on leaving the staging area by 9:30-10:00... if that works for everyone?


I'm pretty flexible...
These times are good for me.

[markw]

Whoa, I got the videos to work. Had to change a setting.
That trail looks like fun!!
I think my tow hooks are gonna get some use.:laugh:

For the head count:
Dezertdog and son (red TJ)

Hey it's going to take me about 2.5 hours to get to 4 corners.
So, Please finalize the times.
Where and when?
Is breakfast out?
If so I will allow time to stop on the way.
I will have an adventure pass. It's only $5...
I have an M44 Russian bolt action. But wuth the drive I have, I'll pass on the shooting.
Have I left anything out???:rolleyes:
Scott

Here's the deal on the adventure passes. Get one, don't scrape it and throw it in your glove box. Then if you get stopped or they start questioning, play dumb and go, oh crap yeah, I forgot, pull it out scrape and hang it. Otherwise, don't worry about it.

So, how many open/open rigs?
Tow points? I saw a picture of one with the hooks bolted to the stock bumper, not a good thing, front hitch, or factory hooks up front, same with rear.

Someone sounds to have major transfercase issues, recommend fixing before wheeling, not day of or day before. If you can grab the front output of your 231 and shake it, I'll gurantee there's more than just 1 bearing bad in the thing. Worse case, watch the for sale and pick up a used one that doesn't wiggle and go through that one, then install.

Not sure if I'll make this or not, got to get clearance from the CFO.

[Dezertdog]

[quote=markw]Tow points? I saw a picture of one with the hooks bolted to the stock bumper, not a good thing, front hitch, or factory hooks up front, same with rear.

If your referring to the red TJ, those hooks on the stock bumper are factory.

[lamula]

I'm in plus one at shotgun.

[markw]

[quote=markw]Tow points? I saw a picture of one with the hooks bolted to the stock bumper, not a good thing, front hitch, or factory hooks up front, same with rear.

If your referring to the red TJ, those hooks on the stock bumper are factory.

No, the TJ is ok, those are factory hooks. This was a black XJ with yellow trim.

XJ factory hooks are available at your local wrecking yard, or from Custome 4x4 fab. The Rusty's hooks don't have the front angle plate to keep them from bending.

[homebrew]

I would still like to do the breakfast thing, Can I get a head count for that? not planning on anything big, just a quick stop at McD's or something. I live near the 8. there is a McD's right across the street by the freeway which is about a mile north of the 8. I will be there around 9 if anyone coming from the north county/ or futher north wants to meet up there.

[ocean_jet]

Head Count so far
1 - homebrew
2 - ocean_jet
3 - XJ Surf + Kids
4 - SanDiegoXJ
5 - mikedashg (good chance)
6 - tripdog
7 - Dezertdog
8 - markw (awaiting CFO approval)
9 - lamula


sorry if I missed anyone...

[Gerr]

Sure why not lol come on down. I'll bring a bunch of mre's for lunch
hey where is a good place to buy mre's? I like to keep a few for trips without the wife

[homebrew]

How many do you want I got about 4 boxes in my garage

[Gerr]

the real question is how many you wana part with and how much those damn things arnt the best in the world but damn nice to have when your out in BFE wheeling and setting up camp only to do repairs

[homebrew]

Well there are 12 in a box I can hook you up with one

[Gerr]

sweet you the man!

[tripdog]

I thought mRE's were gross? I can bring a propane BBQ (left over from the SoCal XJ Jambo), some burgers and a cooler full of beer for after we wheel? I literally live 10 minutes down the street.

[Dawg]

I thought mRE's were gross? I can bring a propane BBQ (left over from the SoCal XJ Jambo), some burgers and a cooler full of beer for after we wheel? I literally live 10 minutes down the street. 10 min ?? :party: at tripdogs :doh:

[SanDiegoXJ]

Someone sounds to have major transfercase issues, recommend fixing before wheeling, not day of or day before. If you can grab the front output of your 231 and shake it, I'll gurantee there's more than just 1 bearing bad in the thing. Worse case, watch the for sale and pick up a used one that doesn't wiggle and go through that one, then install.

Nah, it's not all that. only 3 parts involved...the yoke, the shaft and gear end, and the bearing. The nut might just be loose for all I know....but I haven't been up under it in a bit. I'm actually more concerned about the freeze plug. =(

[mikedashg]

Here's the deal on the adventure passes. Get one, don't scrape it and throw it in your glove box. Then if you get stopped or they start questioning, play dumb and go, oh crap yeah, I forgot, pull it out scrape and hang it. Otherwise, don't worry about it.

So, how many open/open rigs?
Tow points? I saw a picture of one with the hooks bolted to the stock bumper, not a good thing, front hitch, or factory hooks up front, same with rear.

Someone sounds to have major transfercase issues, recommend fixing before wheeling, not day of or day before. If you can grab the front output of your 231 and shake it, I'll gurantee there's more than just 1 bearing bad in the thing. Worse case, watch the for sale and pick up a used one that doesn't wiggle and go through that one, then install.

Not sure if I'll make this or not, got to get clearance from the CFO.

Reading earlier posts there may be stockers and/or newbies, so that kind of leaves out bronco peak connector, and probably bronco peak in general. Dunno about bronco flats, don't think I've ever done it. I always do sidewinder and bronco peak to bronco peak connector.

[zeelaagee]

Head Count so far
1 - homebrew
2 - ocean_jet
3 - XJ Surf + Kids
4 - SanDiegoXJ
5 - mikedashg (good chance)
6 - tripdog
7 - Dezertdog
8 - markw (awaiting CFO approval)
9 - lamula


sorry if I missed anyone...
10 - zeelaagee +1 or 2 passengers (good chance) also open/open

- but it's my first real run, and i have some mods to make (like recovery points, front brake lines, and belly skid) and i probably won't be doing the last leg (bronco?) as i want to try to get out without breaking or severly holding up the group.

[homebrew]

Reading earlier posts there may be stockers and/or newbies, so that kind of leaves out bronco peak connector, and probably bronco peak in general. Dunno about bronco flats, don't think I've ever done it. I always do sidewinder and bronco peak to bronco peak connector.


True story I am at 6 in open/limited and I had a hard time. I dont want to discourage anyone from coming, you never know what you can do in your rig until you try. Im sure there will be alot off shotgun seats open so if your not sure you want to abuse your rig just ask for a shot gun. As for getting stuck that is why I suggested not hitting the trail any later than 1030.

[ocean_jet]

Head Count so far
1 - homebrew [open/limited]
2 - ocean_jet [open/open]
3 - XJ Surf + Kids [locked/locked] (I think)
4 - SanDiegoXJ
5 - mikedashg (good chance)
6 - tripdog
7 - Dezertdog
8 - markw (awaiting CFO approval)
9 - lamula
10 - zeelaagee [open/open]

[XJsurf]

Head Count so far
1 - homebrew [open/limited]
2 - ocean_jet [open/open]
3 - XJ Surf + Kids [locked/locked] (I think)
4 - SanDiegoXJ
5 - mikedashg (good chance)
6 - tripdog
7 - Dezertdog
8 - markw (awaiting CFO approval)
9 - lamula
10 - zeelaagee [open/open]

ocean-jet, 100% that I'm running locked. I have ARB front and rear. 2 years later can't wait to test those things out. Plus I just picked up the inflation kit for the compressor. I just told my wife that we needed to air up the kids bike tires, but we all know the real reason behind that.

Last nite she kind of threw me off. She doesn't like my modified TJ flares that I've been running, so she suggested that I get some bushwackers. Then she was mentioning that I need to get a rear tire carrier. And going on and on about what I could do with the Rig, so as I was laying there I just thought man this is a God. I'm so glad I leave my catalogs in the Sh#$ter.

[Dezertdog]

10 - zeelaagee +1 or 2 passengers (good chance) also open/open

- but it's my first real run, and i have some mods to make (like recovery points, front brake lines, and belly skid) and i probably won't be doing the last leg (bronco?) as i want to try to get out without breaking or severly holding up the group.

Ditto 4 me. I don't want to drive all the way home on a broken Jeep. Or hold up the real rigs.
I am a newbie. Only been on Cleghorn (3 times) and open/open

[homebrew]

Ditto 4 me. I don't want to drive all the way home on a broken Jeep. Or hold up the real rigs.
I am a newbie. Only been on Cleghorn (3 times) and open/open


Understand the concern, but dont let it discourage you from coming. Dont be to worried about it, I dont live far if someone breaks on the trail we can get it to my place for repairs if they cant be made on the trail.

[Dezertdog]

I would still like to do the breakfast thing, Can I get a head count for that? not planning on anything big, just a quick stop at McD's or something. I live near the 8. there is a McD's right across the street by the freeway which is about a mile north of the 8. I will be there around 9 if anyone coming from the north county/ or futher north wants to meet up there.

I'll try to catch you there. But if I get out late don't wait.
What exit off the 8?

[homebrew]

Actually off the 15 exit Aero. The 8 is about a mile south from there.

[mikedashg]

x2 homebrew, bring it out whatever it is, sounds like we may have a Corral Canyon 101 class.


For the record, I'm in N. County SD, and if I get out there early enough I'll meet up with whoever/whever. Either the Mickie D's or the buckman springs exit rest stop/bathroom.

Also, I'm locked rear/open front. But I've been through JV 101 and 102 :D. 105 was too advanced for me though, not without a front locker.

[Dezertdog]

Actually off the 15 exit Aero. The 8 is about a mile south from there.

9:00 am the 15 at Aero
should be able to get there...

[Dezertdog]

Can anyone give me an estimate about how long we will be on the trail?

[homebrew]

Hard to say, its not like cleghorn where there are a lot of fire roads. Me and mike did 2 trails and it took us about 3 hours. With a group of ten rigs I would estimate that we could be out there as long as 5 hours. Depending on the trails that we decide to run, which we wont be able to do until we get to look at the capability of the rigs in attendance.

[SanDiegoXJ]

I'm soo excited!!! I wanna go play!!!

Oh, and locked front/open rear....unless I can find a lock rite in stock somewhere this friday for my 27 spline 8.25....then locked/locked =)

Think I'm taking Friday off so I have Thursday night, Friday, and Sat to fix my junk. So if anyone is bored and has nothing to do, come change freeze plugs with me...and maybe rebuild a 231....though I still have high hopes that it's just a loose yoke nut. =)

[tripdog]

Both diffs on my rig are open. I'll bring a spare 8.25 shaft for myself or anyone else running the 8.25.

[SanDiegoXJ]

ooh, I'll try and hit a junk yard for a spare or two as well. Anyone know what ecology charges for an axle shaft off hand? Damn this is an expensive hobby....I need a better job. =)

[Dezertdog]

Thanx Homebrew,
Just trying to get a round-a-bout figure on how long we'll be out there.
My last 2 trips to Cleg were each 7 hours. So much snow. we were out there all day and ended up turning back both times. :bawl:

[markw]

I'm soo excited!!! I wanna go play!!!

Oh, and locked front/open rear....unless I can find a lock rite in stock somewhere this friday for my 27 spline 8.25....then locked/locked =)

Think I'm taking Friday off so I have Thursday night, Friday, and Sat to fix my junk. So if anyone is bored and has nothing to do, come change freeze plugs with me...and maybe rebuild a 231....though I still have high hopes that it's just a loose yoke nut. =)

Don't waste your money on the 27 spline. Upgrade the shafts/carrier, or swap axles. You won't have too many issues, lots of bypasses. Biggest thing is climbing up stuff, and if you have a front locker you shouldn't have an issue.

[markw]

ooh, I'll try and hit a junk yard for a spare or two as well. Anyone know what ecology charges for an axle shaft off hand? Damn this is an expensive hobby....I need a better job. =)

I think they're 25 or 50, leaning towards 25 though. I need to head down there Saturday and look for stuff... Check the classifieds if I find a 44. :)

[SanDiegoXJ]

Don't waste your money on the 27 spline. Upgrade the shafts/carrier, or swap axles. You won't have too many issues, lots of bypasses. Biggest thing is climbing up stuff, and if you have a front locker you shouldn't have an issue.

yeah, I just saw one for $300...figured I could use that until could afford either a detroit for a 29 spline, or better yet, a D44, at which point I could sell the locker, carrier, shafts for $150 and not be too bad off. =) (In the meantime I'll just carry shafts and have a light right foot).

Now, if I have to change the front output bearing in the 231, is there anything special I need for that? will a regular bearing install/removal kit work? I'm scared to hit it with a hammer...the cases sound so damn brittle. I just don't want to get half way into the job, only to find I can't finish. And what is the best way to find a part number for that bearing should I have to replace it? I guess the ability to purchase one overrides everything else. =)

[homebrew]

Here you go

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList.aspx?parttype=1383&ptset=A&searchfor=Transfer+Case+Output+Shaft+Bearing

[SanDiegoXJ]

Here you go

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList.aspx?parttype=1383&ptset=A&searchfor=Transfer+Case+Output+Shaft+Bearing

And just when ya think, "Nah, no way Kragen is gonna have that..."

[homebrew]

It blows my mind what they carry sometimes, but pisses me off when I crack my water outlet housing and call and here sorry we dont carry those.

[markw]

Can anyone give me an estimate about how long we will be on the trail?

30 minutes???? :)

What trails we gonna run? Sidewinder and BP? Sidewinder is fairly tame.
BP is a bit tippy at the bottom by the tree. If we go up, you'd need a front locker.

[markw]

yeah, I just saw one for $300...figured I could use that until could afford either a detroit for a 29 spline, or better yet, a D44, at which point I could sell the locker, carrier, shafts for $150 and not be too bad off. =) (In the meantime I'll just carry shafts and have a light right foot).

Now, if I have to change the front output bearing in the 231, is there anything special I need for that? will a regular bearing install/removal kit work? I'm scared to hit it with a hammer...the cases sound so damn brittle. I just don't want to get half way into the job, only to find I can't finish. And what is the best way to find a part number for that bearing should I have to replace it? I guess the ability to purchase one overrides everything else. =)

Again, if that bearing is shot, the other end probably isn't looking good, plus you've probably had metal running through everything. Be ready for the worst. I'd start shopping for a xfer case myself. :)

Here: http://www.jbconversions.com/pages/products/rebuild/index.html

[SanDiegoXJ]

well, like I say, I'm hoping it's just a loose yoke nut...the rig has only been in 4wd once since the SYE install. Immediately after that it developed a front output leak, but the yoke needed to be tightened down....didn't have a torque wrench either, so I have no idea how tight it is....just got one last weekend, but it's only goes to 80 ft/lb (and I haven't even tried that yet)....I'll get a beefier one this week and torque it to 110 and see where I stand.

[markw]

If you want to bring it by sans front ds, I've got everything to do that.

[markw]

Ok, here's my question. Does everyone at least have recovery points front and rear? I know I do and mikeg does. What about the rest of you?

[homebrew]

Me hooks/hitch

[SanDiegoXJ]

Same, hooks up front, hitch in the rear.

[lamula]

front hooks
rear hitchw/d-ring
locked front and rear

[zeelaagee]

Ok, here's my question. Does everyone at least have recovery points front and rear? I know I do and mikeg does. What about the rest of you?

my chance to finally meet up with some of the fine folks fron NAXJA this weekend is contingent on having proper recovery points installed. they're ordered- now just waiting.

[ocean_jet]

What trails we gonna run?

Last time we ran Sidewinder to Bronco Peak. It was a bit tough getting up Bronco Peak with open diffs, but we stacked some rocks and just kept trying until we made it.

Those are the only trails I've run there.

What would you recommend?

[markw]

Last time we ran Sidewinder to Bronco Peak. It was a bit tough getting up Bronco Peak with open diffs, but we stacked some rocks and just kept trying until we made it.

Those are the only trails I've run there.

What would you recommend?

I wouldn't recommend going up Bronco with open diffs. I was locked the first time I did it, but I've heard stories. I'd prefer not to spend all day out there though. We could run Sidewinder coming in from the parking lot, then go down Bronco. Either way you have to deal with that tree at the bottom. :) My Avatar is a frame grab going up that little ledge by the east end of sidewinder.

[ocean_jet]

My bad... we didn't run Sidewinder... we ran Gunslinger to Bronco Peak.

Is this the tree you mean?
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[markw]

Hard to tell from that shot, doesn't look like it. The one I'm talking about is by the camp at the base of the climb for bronco peak.

[ocean_jet]

No, that isn't it then. We didn't go in by the camp.

I think we went up an easier trail.

[homebrew]

my chance to finally meet up with some of the fine folks fron NAXJA this weekend is contingent on having proper recovery points installed. they're ordered- now just waiting.

If unable to get them installed still come out, even if you ride shot gun.

[homebrew]

I dont remember there being anything easy about that trail. The sound of your diff landing on that rock is still a vivide memory

[Dezertdog]

Ok, here's my question. Does everyone at least have recovery points front and rear? I know I do and mikeg does. What about the rest of you?

Hooks front & rear, and a well worn strap:link1:

[ocean_jet]

Nothing broke so it must have been easy... right?

[homebrew]

If you say so

[tripdog]

Ok, here's my question. Does everyone at least have recovery points front and rear? I know I do and mikeg does. What about the rest of you?

Yup, tow points front and rear for me, and I might have my locker installed by then too. :yelclap:

[ocean_jet]

If you say so

:D

[Dezertdog]

Hey guys,
It kills me to have to do this, 'cause I was really excited about this run.
But something of a family emergency has come up and I have to cancel.
It sucks!:bawl:
I went on a run at Cleghorn with you :NAXJA: guys and had a blast.
Almost made me wish I still had my XJ... almost.
Anyway, have a great time guys and don't break anything expensive.
Maybe i can catch you next time.

I'm only 15 minutes from Cleg, so I might try to sneak up there for a couple hours to get my fix:greensmok

Later

[homebrew]

No worries hope all is well

[XJsurf]

Sorry, I was looking forward to meeting as many fellow XJers as possible. Same here, hope all is good in the hood.

[ocean_jet]

Sorry... take care man.

[mikedashg]

*sigh*

I pulled a calf muscle, we'll see how my healer visit goes on Friday and what my wife thinks :D. I'll try not to limp around her. hehe.

Change good chance to "maybe" ha

[mikedashg]

My bad... we didn't run Sidewinder... we ran Gunslinger to Bronco Peak.

Is this the tree you mean?
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This is the one on bronco peak connector. Maybe you guys went on bronco flats?


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2041/2124207984_23dfe3376a_m.jpg
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikedashg/2124207984/in/set-72157603501549268/)

the trail right before the tree looks like this

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2319/2124204776_53e43589ef_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikedashg/2124204776/in/set-72157603501549268/)

[XJsurf]

This is the one on bronco peak connector. Maybe you guys went on bronco flats?


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2041/2124207984_23dfe3376a_m.jpg
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikedashg/2124207984/in/set-72157603501549268/)

the trail right before the tree looks like this

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2319/2124204776_53e43589ef_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikedashg/2124204776/in/set-72157603501549268/)

That's a nice little tight squeeze, I can almost hear the damage from hear. Oh well that's what Jeeps are for.

[ocean_jet]

This is the one on bronco peak connector. Maybe you guys went on bronco flats?


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2041/2124207984_23dfe3376a_m.jpg
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikedashg/2124207984/in/set-72157603501549268/)

the trail right before the tree looks like this

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2319/2124204776_53e43589ef_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikedashg/2124204776/in/set-72157603501549268/)


We didn't hit that...but it looks fun!! When I get locked, I am hitting it...

[markw]

That's a nice little tight squeeze, I can almost hear the damage from hear. Oh well that's what Jeeps are for.

There was as scratch on my door handle. That's mine against the tree in the pic.

[XJsurf]

So what's the itenary for Sunday? Are we going to just meet up at 4 corners? time? shooting?

Homebrew I can probably meet you up at McD's.

[ocean_jet]

So what's the itenary for Sunday? Are we going to just meet up at 4 corners? time? shooting?

Homebrew I can probably meet you up at McD's.

Looks like Homebrew is planning on meeting a McD's at 9:00.

The McD's is about 1:10-1:15 hours to the 4 Corners Area.

So, I assume we planning on trying to hit the trail by 10:30 at the latest.



As for shooting, I am planning on leaving San Diego area around 7:00am to get to the range by about 8:30, or so. We'll shoot until about 9:30 or so, and plan to be back at 4 Corners at about 10:15.



If anyone wants, we could plan to meet up and Buckman Springs exit, and caravan to 4 Corners so no one gets lost. Maybe at 10:00?

[homebrew]

is it that far from me really? didnt seem to take that long

[ocean_jet]

Maybe it's not quite that far. Google Maps sasys 45 minutes to the Buckman Springs Exit. Probably another 15 minutes to 4Corners??

[XJsurf]

Homebrew are you talking about the McD's on Aero drive down from Murphy Canyon Housing/

[homebrew]

Yes Sir

[SanDiegoXJ]

Ok, good news and bad news....

Good news is the T-case isn't as bad as I thought...infact it doesn't move side to side at all as I remembered, instead it slides in and out on the shaft by perhaps 1/16 inch and it is under torque....so I think I'm fine there.

Bad news is the freeze plugs won't go in the motor. =( I've got them in the freezer now hoping that will shrink them down enough to get them in...but I feel like I'm smacking them a lot harder than I should be.

Any suggestions are highly welcomed....

Anyway, at this point my rig may be tenative on showing, but if there's a free seat available should I not be able to get it back together in time, I wouldn't mind just tagging along and playing winch bitch.

Michael

[homebrew]

Hey mike I dont have a winch but you can be my bitch lol. How are you trying to install the plugs? Are you using something flat to apply pressure across the whole thing?

[ocean_jet]

Ok, good news and bad news....

Good news is the T-case isn't as bad as I thought...infact it doesn't move side to side at all as I remembered, instead it slides in and out on the shaft by perhaps 1/16 inch and it is under torque....so I think I'm fine there.

Bad news is the freeze plugs won't go in the motor. =( I've got them in the freezer now hoping that will shrink them down enough to get them in...but I feel like I'm smacking them a lot harder than I should be.

Any suggestions are highly welcomed....

Anyway, at this point my rig may be tenative on showing, but if there's a free seat available should I not be able to get it back together in time, I wouldn't mind just tagging along and playing winch bitch.

Michael


Michael,
I don't really know... but I found this:

11. I chose brass freeze plugs to replace the old steel ones. I didn’t want to perform this repair again in 5 years. The Jeep 4.0L engine uses 2” freeze plugs. I found mine at Napa, but competent engine machine shops will likely have them also. I applied a light coating of RTV to the outside of the freeze plug and drove it in place using a socket and a hammer. It can take a little effort to get the freeze plug started, but keep working at it and make sure that the plug drives into the block straight. Drive the freeze plug to the same depth as the others.

http://www.mcma-online.org/techfiles/freezeplugs40.html

Maybe the RTV will act as a lube to help it slide in???

[SanDiegoXJ]

Heh, tried rtv too...didn't help. I'm freezing the plugs now to see if that helps any, but these are noticeably larger than the old ones. I also got mine from napa, brass 2" plug. I just cant for the life of me get it to budge...keeps popping to one side or another...mebbe I'm just not driving it perfectly straight, but it looks pretty good to me.

[XJsurf]

I'm always learning something here, but what are freezeplugs? Location on engine? Purpose?

[ocean_jet]

I'm always learning something here, but what are freezeplugs? Location on engine? Purpose?

They are on the engine block. If your coolant freezes, it expands. These plugs will pop out if it freezes. Otherwise, you could crack the block when the coolant tries to expand.

Follow the link I posted above... it has pictures.

[XJsurf]

thanks

[tripdog]

I was gonna turn out for the shooting, but an hour on the range doesn't seem quite worth the drive to Jacumba.

I'm still down for the wheeling down at CC though, see you guys at 4 corners.

Tom

[mikedashg]

They are on the engine block. If your coolant freezes, it expands. These plugs will pop out if it freezes. Otherwise, you could crack the block when the coolant tries to expand.

Follow the link I posted above... it has pictures.

I thought coolant was called ANTi-freeze. How can coolant freeze? :D

Joking. Too bad that ain't really a problem in socal.

[SanDiegoXJ]

So I found the secret to easily installing freeze plugs......


A bigger hammer! =)

but I broke my power steering reservoir in the process. =(

[ocean_jet]

I was gonna turn out for the shooting, but an hour on the range doesn't seem quite worth the drive to Jacumba.

I'm still down for the wheeling down at CC though, see you guys at 4 corners.

Tom




Is anyone planning on hitting the range besides myself?


If anyone is, I will definately be there.

If my buddy and I are the only ones... we may end up not going... or going after wheeling. (It is a pretty long drive for an hour shooting!)

Let me know... Range Headcount Please.

Thanks.

[SanDiegoXJ]

Hmmm get up earlier to have someone pull a Dick Cheney on me....nah, I'm sleepin' in (if that's what you want to call it!). hehe, but seriously, not much of a gun guy....but I'd be happy to empty several beer cans for you if you need targets. =)

[tripdog]

Is anyone planning on hitting the range besides myself?


If anyone is, I will definately be there.

If my buddy and I are the only ones... we may end up not going... or going after wheeling. (It is a pretty long drive for an hour shooting!)

Let me know... Range Headcount Please.

Thanks.

I might be up for some blasting after, depending on how much time we spend on the trail. :roll: But I have a feeling we'll be out there playing pretty much all day...we'll see.

[SanDiegoXJ]

OK, so the Jeep is finally running again. And it appears to be leak free. However, I literally just finished slapping it together about 10 minutes ago and went for a quick 5 min test drive. So, it looks good, but considering I basically replaced the entire drivers side of the engine bay (or so it feels like), I'm a little hesitant to take it out wheeling until I can get some more test time in, but I gotta run to a family thing now, so that's not gonna happen. Anyone got a spare seat that needs balast...I'd like to come, if for no other reason than to familiarize myself with the place....just don't wanna find out a I made a booboo on a freeze plug while on the trail and either have to tow it off the mountain or go through this all again on the trail. :banghead:

[XJsurf]

I finally got the Jeep packed and ready for tomorrow. Threw some tools, and some extra fluid together. I picked a up a hose kit for my ARB compressor and got done finishing installing that. I called the Big 5 sports near my house they only sell the annual adventure pass. So I'm thinking I'm going to renegade it. Added to the fact that I'm not bringing the kids, so I'm not worried about stopping to much.

San Diego XJ, I'll have extra seats open. I plan on meeting Homebrew at the McD's on Aero. Pm or just let me know.

[SanDiegoXJ]

Cool! I'll meet you guys on aero, or hopefully, just meet homebrew at his house....figure it's probably safer to leave the honda there then a mickey d's parking lot. =)

[homebrew]

hey mike thats cool you can park at my place I plan on leaving here at 830 so I can gas up and grab some water and munchies for the trail

[lamula]

I want to hook up with the group as it heads out the I8 as it goes through El Cajon . Are you going out the 52 to La Mesa or going I8 from McD's?
What channel are we using on CB?
Cell # 619-871-3737

[homebrew]

Plan on taking the 8 straight through. Gonna start on channel 4 i guess. Hope to be rollin by 915

[markw]

I'll be monitoring 146.520 . Eventually I'll put a CB in the jeep. Right now it's not looking good, both leaf packs are laying in the driveway and I'm shuffling springs between the two . Apparently not all RD1462 packs are the same. These are different thickness on the leaves, the sagging one is thinner. Wonder if it's a 3.5 and not a 4.5?? Anyway, talking with MikeG, and am going to try and find a center pin to put the one pack back together. I'm one short at the moment.

Mark

[homebrew]

Wish I could help mark hope you get it fixed.

Can I ask for another head count please also who is swinging a CB?

[SanDiegoXJ]

I'll be there, though, most likely, I'll be jeepless. However, if I do decide to risk it, I do have a CB.

[lamula]

I'll be there and got a CB.I'll moniter ch.4 and look for ya about 9:30 passin through the Cajon Zone.

[XJsurf]

Count me in minus the kids, but I'm CBless. So maybe we can use smoke signals or something.lol

[homebrew]

Hey mike if you wake up and decide not to chance it give me a call and I'll wait for you.

[mikedashg]

I'm going. I was gonna meet you guys at McDonalds but it's a straighter shot for me if I go down the 67 to the 8 (instead of 15 to 8) about 15 miles straighter.

I have a CB, but transmit is broken. So I can hear, just not talk. I'll be monitoring channel 4 and yakin/monitoring 146.520 though on the ham.

What time was it at the buckman springs restrooms/rest stop? 10AM?

[SanDiegoXJ]

Hey mike if you wake up and decide not to chance it give me a call and I'll wait for you.

I figure I'll be at your house a tad before 8:30. In fact I'll probably be driving the Jeep....I'll make a decision then if I'm gonna take it or not....I'll get loaded as if it were going all the same though.

[homebrew]

Sounds good, as long as we are rollin by 915 we should be at the off ramp round 10. I will shout out or location along the way via cb

[lamula]

Mike
10:00 was the plan at Buckman Springs I'm going be at the Greenfield ramp about 9:15 waiting for a possible caravan out. Stop by if you want.
See ya.

[XJsurf]

Homebrew, I can meet you up at your place I know my way around the housing area up there.

[mikedashg]

FYI, if I get to the buckman exit first, I'll be parked at the rest stop. You go left at the bottom of the ramp, and make a right into the rest stop area loop. There are restrooms there and plenty of parking on either side.

[markw]

If you're coming down the 67, swing by and knock on the door. Jeep's back on the ground, sags a tad. I'll figure it out later. Still haven't gotten the go ahead yet. From my place to the entrance of the park, it's about 35 minutes. I'm by the 67 and Mapleview.

[mikedashg]

If you're coming down the 67, swing by and knock on the door. Jeep's back on the ground, sags a tad. I'll figure it out later. Still haven't gotten the go ahead yet. From my place to the entrance of the park, it's about 35 minutes. I'm by the 67 and Mapleview.

Tell her it's a Cal thing. You didn't do all this work last minute for nothing. See you there! :D

146.520

[zeelaagee]

hey guys... looks like i'm out for this time. the parts didn't come through and my belly skid that was supposed to fit with my 242, didn't fit properly... hoping to have it resolved soon.

have fun and please post pics.

[homebrew]

Today is the day I will be at the Mc'd's at 9 rollin by 915 and will swing by the rest stop on the exit. See you all there

[Dezertdog]

Hey guys,

Post a write up and some pix ( or videos) I want to see what I missed:tears:

Scott

[SanDiegoXJ]

Just wanted to say thanx to everyone that went....I may have just been a ride-a-long and the token drunk, but had a blast!

As for what you missed...the hits were a lot higher than anticipated. I think everyone but Homebrew took body damage of some sort. Other than that we were looking at a bent tie-rod, a torn break line, and yet another punctured MTR.

However, the moments that would be shown on sports center both came on Bronco Peak. mikedashg and ocean_jet provided the entertainment for the day with their near rollovers. Mike's "When in doubt, throttle it out" attitude kept us all entertained. However, the other Mike's efforts were no less valient! God, I hope somebody got video of that!!! =)

Thanx again guys!

[XJsurf]

SanDeigoXJ, I think my highlight is either ocean_jet going " Help, help" is he saw his fate, or when he decided to jump the rock at Bronco's peak and took out the tree with him. It gave everybody a lesson on where not to stand. Good times. Unfortunately SanDiegoXJ nobody is getting drunk tonight at the house. Just thankful to get home in one peice. So thanks for holding down the fort and giving a new meaning to drinking beer and spotting at the same time.

[WraithKWK]

I wish i would have been able to make an apperance.
I finallyt got my loose steering colum taken care of.... Talk about inventing some tools.. Anywho glad yall had fun and nobody got hurt.

[SanDiegoXJ]

I wish i would have been able to make an apperance.

Shhhhhh! Be careful what you wish for. =) All day long, as I stood there entertained with Heineken in hand, I just kept thinking, "Damn glad I didn't drive!" It was a blast, but there was a lot more damage than, at least I, anticipated. And the trail was apparently much more difficult than previous...ultimately, we had to back all but mikedashg and markw out and turn them around. (BTW, did I mention Mike is a friggin' lunatic?!?!....hella fun to watch, but no way in hell I ever ride shotgun in his rig! =D)...that goes for the other Mike too....talk about "Drive it like it's stolen"...that's probably why the cop pulled his gun on him....he saw him drive and knew he was a nut! =)

[homebrew]

talk about "Drive it like it's stolen"...that's probably why the cop pulled his gun on him....he saw him drive and knew he was a nut! =)


rolof lmfao

[XJsurf]

It was pretty nutty

[ocean_jet]

Shhhhhh! Be careful what you wish for. =) All day long, as I stood there entertained with Heineken in hand, I just kept thinking, "Damn glad I didn't drive!" It was a blast, but there was a lot more damage than, at least I, anticipated.

Lot more than I anticipated too. That trail was a lot different than when Paul and I went there just back at the end of December. Lesson learned... I never even thought of all the rain washing it out...

:doh:



Oh well.. can't complain. Just a couple of small dents. And maybe a tire. One was totally flat this morning.

[WraithKWK]

Shhhhhh! Be careful what you wish for. =)

I'm living vicariously through your photos and videos... Its all i got tell i get my XJ safe enough to get dirty

[mikedashg]

Yup, trails are changing all the time. Sometimes making the trail easier, or sometimes harder. Either due to mother earth, bigger rigs digging big holes with the big tires, or smaller rigs stacking rocks.

You guys would've been able to sidewinder much easier. Mark and I ran it that day in about 45 minutes after we were done with Bronco. We still beat you guys back. Of course you guys had the brakeline issue. We even stopped a bunch of times either for photos, or on-coming traffic. We could've probably taking you guys through in it 2 or 3 hours easy.

[SanDiegoXJ]

...We even stopped a bunch of times either for photos...

So where are these photos already? I still wanna see video of Mike's attempt to just jump up the rock pile. =)

[mikedashg]

So where are these photos already? I still wanna see video of Mike's attempt to just jump up the rock pile. =)

Still in the camera. Probably won't be until later this week.

[ocean_jet]

You guys would've been able to sidewinder much easier. Mark and I ran it that day in about 45 minutes after we were done with Bronco. We still beat you guys back. Of course you guys had the brakeline issue. We even stopped a bunch of times either for photos, or on-coming traffic. We could've probably taking you guys through in it 2 or 3 hours easy.


Yep... another lesson learned...

Defer trail selection to someone that knows the trails better... I will listen to you next time Mark!!

[mikedashg]

Yep... another lesson learned...

Defer trail selection to someone that knows the trails better... I will listen to you next time Mark!!

Yeah, if I knew gunslinger was that easy and that part of bronco was going to be that tough, I would've suggested starting out with sidewinder, and then go up to the fire lookout tower. Gunslinger was like a fire road. I've been going to corral canyon for years, but I've never done gunslinger, I guess now I know why.