dogs

[87manche]

so, who take their dogs with them wheeling?

I've got a bit of a dillema.

Rocky is no problem, and hes got a harness for the seatbelt, he'd really just lay down and go to sleep while wheeling.

Bullwinkle is another matter. He doesn't like to ride in a car, let alone on the trail.
So, what to do with an anxious dog on the trail? I considered giving him half a dramamine, since he does get car sick.
I could put them both in the cage and strap the cage down, but I'm not sure I like the thought of the dogs bouncing around inside their cage.
Or I"m going to end up holding his chicken ass.

Ideas?

[XJumpmaster]

Dramamine is your friend! My heeler goes where ever I go usually. My corgie gets car sick and does not really like to wheel. We started using dramamine last year and the corgie is a totally different dog now. I almost think she enjoys wheeling now! Almost! LOL

[Ray H]

Is there a way to seperate them and leave Bullwinkle home and take Rocky wheelin with you?
We used to take our dog everwhere with us, wheelin, road trips, sailing, canoeing/kayaking, ect. He was always great at traveling so it was pretty easy to take him. Im not sure he liked wheeling but he did like being with us and getting out in the woods.
Anyway, I would have reservations about drugging a dog just so you could drag him along on a wheelin trip. Thats just me so you do what feels right for you and yours.

[WB9YZU]

Some dogs just don't like to travel, let alone wheel; just like people.

I wouldn't drug the dog, it just seems to accentuate the problem.
Leave the dog who can't stand wheeling home, or if on a long trip, a Kennel. If you think that separation issues will crop up, leave'm both at home or in a Kennel.

[HaleYes]

Our lab Bailey, (RIP) loved to travel. I never did take her on any wheeling trips though. We took her everywhere with us. By the time I got into wheeling, she was too old and decrepid to keep up. I'd love to have another one sometime. We'll likely get another when we get moved...lord only knows when that'll be.

[ZacSquatch]

.http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/zac_squatch/657291060_m.jpg
I used to take Twinkie wheelin when she was a few years younger, she would curl up in the spare wheel with a bunch of blankets on a mild run

Wilson, our lab, puts his butt on the back seat and paws on the center console. He just leans into one seat or the other and stays put pretty well. He loves seein new places and people, marking new trees/rocks and is more than willing to eat your spare food.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/zac_squatch/willis-1.jpg

And
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/zac_squatch/ha1-2.jpg

[87manche]

Some dogs just don't like to travel, let alone wheel; just like people.

I wouldn't drug the dog, it just seems to accentuate the problem.
Leave the dog who can't stand wheeling home, or if on a long trip, a Kennel. If you think that separation issues will crop up, leave'm both at home or in a Kennel.
the problem is that bullwinkle is simply a puppy. I'm hoping that a few trips and his car sickness/anxiety will go away.
I'd rather not write him of and then never get him acclimated to riding in a Jeep.
If I could take care of the car sickness I wouldn't mind holding him, but puking in the car just isn't cool.

[BruceB83]

.http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/zac_squatch/657291060_m.jpg
I used to take Twinkie wheelin when she was a few years younger, she would curl up in the spare wheel with a bunch of blankets on a mild run

Wilson, our lab, puts his butt on the back seat and paws on the center console. He just leans into one seat or the other and stays put pretty well. He loves seein new places and people, marking new trees/rocks and is more than willing to eat your spare food.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/zac_squatch/willis-1.jpg

And
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/zac_squatch/ha1-2.jpg

Labs are the best! I mean...just look at that last pic. My lab we had when I was growing up/mid-late teens LOVED to ride in the Jeeps. You could pick up the keys and she'd be at the door trying to knock it down to go to the Jeep. She never went on anything over a light wheeling trail. I can't wait to get a dog soon so I can take her (it will be a her) on wheeling trips with me.

[ZacSquatch]

We have 4 labs, all love to ride but Wilson is the most chill.

[BruceB83]

Lol...ummmm....what is that???

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc313/BruceB83/Misc/ha1-2.jpg

[ZacSquatch]

No clue.. we were remodeling at the time that was takin so it probly some trash or building materials.

[BruceB83]

Haha...I know what it looks like...but I won't say...:shhh:

[JohnX]

On the topic of dogs on wheeling trip....I happen to disagree with them going along.

Some dogs would be better than others of course, and it mostly depends on training and said dogs personality.

My main objection is that people who do not have dogs, are allergic, afraid, just plain don't like them, etc. should not be subjected to someones dog just because they want to attend an event. If its a quick run with your buddies...cool. But at an organized event I don't think its fair to the other people there. I also don't like the idea of the dog controlling the run...."my dog needs a break", "my dog needs to pee", "wait up, my dog just ran away", etc, etc. I do like dogs for the most parts (at least quiet calm dogs anyway), but some people have legitiment reasons not to be around dogs.

Rant over.

[WB9YZU]

the problem is that bullwinkle is simply a puppy. I'm hoping that a few trips and his car sickness/anxiety will go away.
I'd rather not write him of and then never get him acclimated to riding in a Jeep.
If I could take care of the car sickness I wouldn't mind holding him, but puking in the car just isn't cool.

AH, I was not clear about that.
Jack <RIP> puked in the back of my hatchback when I first got him; then he proceeded to crawl under the seat. He did the whole, lay behind the drivers seat thing for years .Then we got a 23ft motor home. All of a sudden, he was cool about getting in the camper, standing on the dog house and hanging out while I raced. When I got into Jeeps, he would sit on the back seat with his feet on the transmission tunnel and hang out. I never did understand what made the change except that the MH was home when it wasn't moving.

I don't believe you are going to calm it's fears by holding it like a child, infact you may make it worse. Maybe start with small rides, like up and down the driveway when you need to move the car, or put it in the garage. Perhaps just work on something in the Jeep and let the dog do it's own thing <sniffing around and getting into things in the Jeep>. All of my dogs have played in the Jeep at one time or another. Sometimes Shadow, my current bitch, likes to just sit in the Jeep while I work on it.

[WB9YZU]

On the topic of dogs on wheeling trip....I happen to disagree with them going along.

Some dogs would be better than others of course, and it mostly depends on training and said dogs personality.

My main objection is that people who do not have dogs, are allergic, afraid, just plain don't like them, etc. should not be subjected to someones dog just because they want to attend an event. If its a quick run with your buddies...cool. But at an organized event I don't think its fair to the other people there. I also don't like the idea of the dog controlling the run...."my dog needs a break", "my dog needs to pee", "wait up, my dog just ran away", etc, etc. I do like dogs for the most parts (at least quiet calm dogs anyway), but some people have legitiment reasons not to be around dogs.

Rant over.

Well, see if I ever wheel with a dog hater like you! -LOL!

I have had a couple, and I really do mean a couple, of people over the years not want my dog(s) near them. By and large, outdoors types like dogs, expecially friendly and well behaved dogs. The more well behaved you can get your dog, the more likely that even the most avid dog hater will appreciate them.

In my experience, you don't find too many folks Jeeping who have alergies to animals - the woods are full of them.

...and keep the leash handy incase you run across one.

[thebluebuffalo]

leave them at home or let them follow on foot behind you on the trail. i would let my lab follow me, she got some major excerise that way.

[Ray H]

On the topic of dogs on wheeling trip....I happen to disagree with them going along.

Some dogs would be better than others of course, and it mostly depends on training and said dogs personality.

My main objection is that people who do not have dogs, are allergic, afraid, just plain don't like them, etc. should not be subjected to someones dog just because they want to attend an event. If its a quick run with your buddies...cool. But at an organized event I don't think its fair to the other people there. I also don't like the idea of the dog controlling the run...."my dog needs a break", "my dog needs to pee", "wait up, my dog just ran away", etc, etc. I do like dogs for the most parts (at least quiet calm dogs anyway), but some people have legitiment reasons not to be around dogs.

Rant over.

Ha, Ha, Thats exactly why I dont like kids on wheeling trips.
Responsible dog ownership goes along way. Our dog almost always went wheelin with us but he also almost always stayed in the Jeep or on a leash until we were certain that everyone else was ok with him being around, then he got more freedom. We always made it clear to people that if they had an issue with him to let us know and we would adjust the way we do things to accommodate them if we could. Actually, we wouldnt go on a trip if the dog couldnt come along, which was an issue only once.
Long story short, we were scheduled to go wheelin/camping with a new group, we asked if the dog could come in advance, the trail leader told us that the campground had a no dog rule. We called the campground to clear up an issue about the charges and just happened to ask them about the dog and they told us that they are very dog friendly and any well behaved dog is welcome at their campground. I confronted the trail leader about that and he basically told me he lied to us because he didnt want any on the trail because they are trouble. We went on the run and we took our dog (who was absolutely no trouble). I told the trail leader that had he not lied, we wouldve stayed home but since he lied to us, screw him and the Jeep he rode in on. We wheeled with that group several times since and always took the dog and always had a great time.

I agree with you when it comes to dogs running around unsupervised on the trail. I like dogs and I have no problem with them being included but they should be under the owners control all the time.

[DrMoab]

I can't tell if Tobe likes it. Can you? :D
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/DrMoab/GeoStashevent%20pics/IMGP4992.jpg

[87manche]

On the topic of dogs on wheeling trip....I happen to disagree with them going along.

Some dogs would be better than others of course, and it mostly depends on training and said dogs personality.


A well behaved dog won't be a bother to anyone.
If the dog isn't well behaved it's not the dogs fault, it's the owners fault and the problems should be brought to the owners attention.

Given the fact that I've wheeled with most of the people in the MWC and that I've taken Rocky previously and he's even played with a few others members dogs I don't think that will be an issue.

If someone really doesnt' like my dogs then I will keep them away from that person.

leave them at home or let them follow on foot behind you on the trail. i would let my lab follow me, she got some major excerise that way.

that really isn't an option with dachsunds, especially a puppy. You're dealing with dogs that have 3 inch legs, they just can't keep up like a larger dog.

Pee breaks and such won't be an issue, both dogs are capable of going 6-8 hours in a vehicle, when we took them to NC we didn't make any extra stops for the dogs, just our planned fuel stops.

I really was just looking for advice on how to cope with the puppy's car sickness, not a debate on whether or not I should take my dogs to Winterfest.

[ZacSquatch]

Our old Jack Russel had issues with car sickness, we didn't want to dope him up so we tried a few things. One way was to give him a nice, meaty bone in the back seat to keep his mind off the ride, this worked very well. We also perched him in our laps in my moms car so he had a 360 veiw and he was a whole lot more calm than being stuck in the back or in a carrier.

My weiner did great no matter what we took her in. We had her in a carrier in the back of my dads plane and he was messing around and did a lil 0-gravity... I looked back, and there she was, floating inside her kennel, just looking at me like "WTF, who's flying this thing".

There's a lot of other thing that people claim to have worked
Rubber line/bungee cord from the frame of the vehicle to the ground, gets rid of static electricity
Ginger capsules/ginger snap cookies
Lil bit of Vanilla Ice cream
Seasickness pills (dramamine)
Sugar dissolved on pets water

[Gerr]

I wont take a dog wheeling or camping in a group situation but if I go alone or just with a friend or two and they are cool with it I will bring one of our 8 dogs all of which love to go but all have their hangups. the best one for enjoying the ride and time with Dad also hates strangers and the others all love strangers along with squirls and chipmonks and "that bush just moved" situations have posed some interesting stops along the trail. Dottie my wifes favorite is the worst in the car she gets so worked up she literally has tried jumping out closed windows not because she is scared but because she likes to play and chase.

[87manche]

Our old Jack Russel had issues with car sickness, we didn't want to dope him up so we tried a few things. One way was to give him a nice, meaty bone in the back seat to keep his mind off the ride, this worked very well. We also perched him in our laps in my moms car so he had a 360 veiw and he was a whole lot more calm than being stuck in the back or in a carrier.

My weiner did great no matter what we took her in. We had her in a carrier in the back of my dads plane and he was messing around and did a lil 0-gravity... I looked back, and there she was, floating inside her kennel, just looking at me like "WTF, who's flying this thing".

There's a lot of other thing that people claim to have worked
Rubber line/bungee cord from the frame of the vehicle to the ground, gets rid of static electricity
Ginger capsules/ginger snap cookies
Lil bit of Vanilla Ice cream
Seasickness pills (dramamine)
Sugar dissolved on pets water
I hadn't considered ginger snaps, I know they work on people for motion sickness.

Looks like I'll give that a go.

[OverlandXJ]

My Husky loved camping/Jeepin espescially in winter snow. My Black Lab... not so much, he also got very carsick as a pup. I'm hoping to get him out this spring. Thanks for those tips.

DrMoab... beautiful Chocolate!

[Ray H]

My Husky loved camping/Jeepin espescially in winter snow. My Black Lab... not so much, he also got very carsick as a pup. I'm hoping to get him out this spring. Thanks for those tips.

DrMoab... beautiful Chocolate!

John, Youve camped beside us with our dog (Woody). I think you were there for the incident with Omar I described above.

[OverlandXJ]

John, Youve camped beside us with our dog (Woody). I think you were there for the incident with Omar I described above.


I wasnt the Trail Guide was i? :D

Dont think i remember this?

[Ray H]

I wasnt the Trail Guide was i? :D

Dont think i remember this?


You werent the guide, Omar was. Dirty Dozens, Red Ridge, frogs croaking and Linyee snoring.
Im pretty sure you, your boy and one of his friends camped right beside us. Well its been a few years, as you get older the memory is the second thing to go ;)

Edit: Wait, look what I found. I cant find you but Im pretty sure you're there. Sorry if Im thinking of another John.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/bnrhuffman/Dirty%20Dozen/ddgroup.jpg

[OverlandXJ]

:laugh3: :roflmao:

I remember now!! Wow, Linyee snoring! That was brutal! Their tent shook and the ground vibrated! Not much sleep that night...

Gary's now 20, working at UPS, part time at local Community College. His bud Steven is going to Penn State.

I'm the handsome one next to your favorite trailguide, Steve in orange T and Gary in white T. Would you believe all my hair grew back? :laugh3:

Your dogs were well behaved, i'd share the trail with ya'll again anytime. :cheers: NAC-Fest?

[Ray H]

=John BI'm the handsome one next to your favorite trailguide, Steve in orange T and Gary in white T. Would you believe all my hair grew back? :laugh3:


Oh yes, there you are. I couldnt pick you out without a hat on.
Those were the good ole days. Its sad to think that we almost didnt go because of the dog issue, but its all good now.

[Gerr]

I really was just looking for advice on how to cope with the puppy's car sickness.
try short trips to get it use to the motion of being in a car.

[HotwiredXJ]

My main objection is that people who do not have dogs, are allergic, afraid, just plain don't like them, etc. should not be subjected to someones dog just because they want to attend an event. If its a quick run with your buddies...cool. But at an organized event I don't think its fair to the other people there. I also don't like the idea of the dog controlling the run...."my dog needs a break", "my dog needs to pee", "wait up, my dog just ran away", etc, etc. I do like dogs for the most parts (at least quiet calm dogs anyway), but some people have legitiment reasons not to be around dogs.

Rant over.

:firedevil
Sorry, I was reading this, and once I saw this, my flame thrower just ignited it's self.
I agree that there are some rambunctious dogs out there, but...
Point one: I don't like kids, I am allergic to them, and I am afraid of them, that is why I don't have any. I do, however have dogs, I don't take mine anywhere, firstly, because I am a responsible dog owner, and I don't want some redneck to run over my dog. Secondly, because my dogs aren't around kids, and I cannot predict what my dogs would do, if provoked by a little bastard kid.
Point two: I don't think that an off-road park is ANY place for kids, but look around, they are there, moreover, organized events should also be off-limits to kids, but I am sure they are not. Profanity, drinking, whatever else, but I guess if you are a great parent, then I guess these things shouldn't bother your kids. Reciprocal consideration should be given if you are going to bitch about dogs, or taking dogs places.
:firedevil
Yes, kids are people, but nine times out of ten, a dog will be more well behaved then a kid


Sure, I will get flamed about the kids comments, but oh well, everyone can agree to dissagree.

[87manche]

try short trips to get it use to the motion of being in a car.
I've been trying to desensitize him to the car's motion for a month.
short trips around town. he doesn't freak out or anythihg, just starts to drool, and then you have a few minutes before he vomits.

[87manche]

I didn't come and update this.

I tossed both of the dogs on the flat floor of the XJ and we rode all weekend.
No more issues.
I guess it was a puppy thing. They slept the entire time we were on the White trail.

[RedHeep]

I didn't come and update this.

I tossed both of the dogs on the flat floor of the XJ and we rode all weekend.
No more issues.
I guess it was a puppy thing. They slept the entire time we were on the White trail.

They probably only get scared when you drive.

[Bubba Dolphin]

My lab, Rocky, loves getting in the Jeep. He knows we are going to the land of pizza on the ground and slow rabbits. I inherited him from my little brother when he was a little over 3YO. I visited my folks a couple of years ago and decided to take ROcky to the beach about 80 miles up the 1. I put the seats down to keep him in the cab, and I was driving fast(new truck) and he loved it! He got super excited about going fast and all the turns. So, when my family moved to Alabama, they didn't think they could keep him, so I got him. Best dog I've ever had. Normally, I kick him out of the Jeep and keep on driving up/over whatever I'm on. He keeps me in sight, which is pretty easy to do out here, comes back for water, then heads back out. During the summer, I worry about him having heat related issues, so our outings are early(5am) morning to 11-12. Yep, just little trips for me. Thankfully, there are lots of trails out the back door.

Personally, I would have named him Mr. Wiggles, due to his hip displacia. Unfortunately, we caught that too late for surgery.

I can only hope to find a couple more like him.

[Darky]

He keeps me in sight, which is pretty easy to do out here, comes back for water, then heads back out. During the summer, I worry about him having heat related issues.Sounds like my first dog Nikki. Except we were "camping" at my aunt and uncle's cabin in the woods of NY, near the Finger Lakes, Keuka Lake I believe. She'd run around all day, chasin rabbits and squirrels, come check on us every once in a while, chase us when we went hiking and exploring, and be back before sunset.


Personally, I would have named him Mr. Wiggles, due to his hip displacia. Unfortunately, we caught that too late for surgery.

I can only hope to find a couple more like him.Also sounds very much like our Nikki. She was a Lab/Terrier/Husky mix. The oily coat of a lab, face of a terrier, just bigger, and hind end of a husky. She was a very strong dog. She was a puppy even at 13yrs old, then her hip went out. We gave ger a week, but she wasn't improving, and in a lot of pain so we had her put down.

[boomhauer]

This thread made my day! Great pictures and comments. I love dogs (I have 2 black labs, female (Ravin), and male (Max)), and I actually prefer dogs to people. lol.

The kid comments were hilarious and had to clean the coffee i spewed off my keyboard! -B

[FlexdXJ]

I am gonna take Kosmo with me this year to see how he does. I am just afraid of the idiots on dirt biles at haspin acres. He does great without a leash but i guess i will take his leash