Drug Problem

[churky89]

Been there.....
The other day, someone at a store in our town read that a methamphetamine lab had been found in an old farmhouse in the adjoining county and he asked me a rhetorical question, ''Why didn't we have a drug problem when you and I were growing up?''


I replied: "I had a drug problem when I was young":

I was drug to church on Sunday morning.

I was drug to church for weddings and funerals.

I was drug to family reunions and community socials no matter the weather.

I was drug by my ears when I was disrespectful to adults.

I was also drug to the woodshed when I disobeyed my parents, told a lie, brought home a bad report card, did not speak with respect, spoke ill of the teacher or the preacher, or if I didn't put forth my best effort in everything that was asked of me.

I was drug to the kitchen sink to have my mouth washed out with soap if I uttered a
profane four-letter word.


I was drug out to pull weeds in mom's garden and flower beds and cockleburs out of dad's fields.

I was drug to the homes of family, friends, and neighbors to help out some poor soul who had no one to mow the yard, repair the clothesline, or chop some firewood; and, if my mother had ever known that I took a single dime as a tip for this kindness, she would have drug me back to the woodshed.

Those drugs are still in my veins; and they affect my behavior in everything I do, say, and think. They are stronger than cocaine, crack, or heroin; and, if today's children had this kind of drug problem, America would be a better place.

[Beej]

Actually, the appropriate term is 'dragged'.

[ECKSJAY]

Actually, the appropriate term is 'dragged'.


x2

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[jeeplas]

Good for your parents! I agree with their philosophy on raising kids. Too bad more parents are not like that.

[XJ Dreamin']

Actually, the appropriate term is 'dragged'.

All that druggin' must've affected something.


Actually, that story would be cute if there hadn't been a real drug problem when I was growing up, but there was.

On the actual topic of discipline - I firmly believe that parents around me, of my generation, are doing a pretty piss poor job. When I started seeing our boys acting like the kids on the teen-targeted TV crap (Disney, Nickelodeon, etc.) I blocked them. We watch Leave It To Beaver and Andy Griffith. Of course, we watch Discovery, History, and Military channels. I'll sit and watch Dirty Jobs with them, but when Stunt Junkies came on I shut that down. I told them, "I'll watch people working for a living, no matter how dirty the job is, but I'm not watching some yahoos risk their lives to get high on adrenalin. You might as well sit around and watch some poor slob mainlining smack."

Now there's a lawsuit brought by parents against the school board trying to force cell phones into the school. WTF IS THAT?

[XJ_Vikings]

All that druggin' must've affected something.


Actually, that story would be cute if there hadn't been a real drug problem when I was growing up, but there was.

On the actual topic of discipline - I firmly believe that parents around me, of my generation, are doing a pretty piss poor job. When I started seeing our boys acting like the kids on the teen-targeted TV crap (Disney, Nickelodeon, etc.) I blocked them. We watch Leave It To Beaver and Andy Griffith. Of course, we watch Discovery, History, and Military channels. I'll sit and watch Dirty Jobs with them, but when Stunt Junkies came on I shut that down. I told them, "I'll watch people working for a living, no matter how dirty the job is, but I'm not watching some yahoos risk their lives to get high on adrenalin. You might as well sit around and watch some poor slob mainlining smack."

Now there's a lawsuit brought by parents against the school board trying to force cell phones into the school. WTF IS THAT?

immagine that, a parent watching tv with their children and monitoring what they watch instead of blaming the media when their children are unsupervised watching jackass.

[XJ Dreamin']

immagine that, a parent watching tv with their children and monitoring what they watch instead of blaming the media when their children are unsupervised watching jackass.

Hell, I don't even watch Jackass! That's all I need to end my day - another Jackass. Between that crap and professional wrestling on the History channel, the world has just about officially come to an end :D

Before the block, I would catch bits of what they were watching as I passed through the living room (no TV in their room). I would comment - "That kid was rude." "That kid is spoiled." But, that didn't work. When I caught the boys starting to act like the characters in those shows I sat them down and told them that they could not act that way. If watching those shows made them act that way, then I would put a stop to it. I gave them a grace period. They could continue to watch those shows if they did not act that way. It didn' t work. The same way they learn from watching your actions, they learn from watching actors. So, I pulled the plug.

[5-90]

All that druggin' must've affected something.


Actually, that story would be cute if there hadn't been a real drug problem when I was growing up, but there was.

On the actual topic of discipline - I firmly believe that parents around me, of my generation, are doing a pretty piss poor job. When I started seeing our boys acting like the kids on the teen-targeted TV crap (Disney, Nickelodeon, etc.) I blocked them. We watch Leave It To Beaver and Andy Griffith. Of course, we watch Discovery, History, and Military channels. I'll sit and watch Dirty Jobs with them, but when Stunt Junkies came on I shut that down. I told them, "I'll watch people working for a living, no matter how dirty the job is, but I'm not watching some yahoos risk their lives to get high on adrenalin. You might as well sit around and watch some poor slob mainlining smack."

Now there's a lawsuit brought by parents against the school board trying to force cell phones into the school. WTF IS THAT?


Capital idea - and a rather more positive "affliction" than this false sense of entitlement that kids are coming up with, especially out here.

That lawsuit is in Texas? I'd expect that sort of thing out here! I go to the mall, and see kids with three pagers, two cell phones, and a Blackberry hanging off their waist, and I can't help but wonder... "Dealer McDope, coming through!"

I firmly believe that the proliferation of cell phones has a lot to do with the decline in manners over the last ten years or so - and it's infectious, not trained. I run across this in adults as well - someone will be talking to me, and suddenly decide to check their voice mail - then they have the nerve to wonder how I snatched the phone from their head (and why...) so I can finish my conversation with them. Doubly irritating if they flagged me down to find out something...

Don't even get me started on this whole "Bluetooth headset" thing...

Yes, I have a cell phone. I have given the number to a total of about six people - I got it for my convenience, not everyone else's. You will be assuming a certain amount of risk in calling me (my wife is the ONLY person who can call my pocket "just on account of 'cause!") and the rule is that there had damn well better be a medical emergency, and 911 will be involved. If there isn't an emergency, there will be when I get there - and you'll need 911 anyhow, so you might as well call them. Calling me to stop at the store on my way somewhere is a guarantee that it WILL NOT happen. WHy can't more people take an attitude like that?

I keep having people offer me "cell phone planes" with 1500 minutes a month - that's 25 hours. I don't spend 25 hours a damn YEAR on the phone - could I get something like that, but only billed once a year? I think $150 per annum for 'phone use is a lot better than $30-40 per month...

Sorry - I'm rambling. However, Bravo Zulu to you for taking an interest in what your kids are doing and how they'll turn out - they should end up with a discernable sense of social responsibility, and end up without that whole sense of "me first" that is causing a decline in American society...

5-90

[XJ Dreamin']

Capital idea - and a rather more positive "affliction" than this false sense of entitlement that kids are coming up with, especially out here.

That lawsuit is in Texas? I'd expect that sort of thing out here! I go to the mall, and see kids with three pagers, two cell phones, and a Blackberry hanging off their waist, and I can't help but wonder... "Dealer McDope, coming through!"

I firmly believe that the proliferation of cell phones has a lot to do with the decline in manners over the last ten years or so - and it's infectious, not trained. I run across this in adults as well - someone will be talking to me, and suddenly decide to check their voice mail - then they have the nerve to wonder how I snatched the phone from their head (and why...) so I can finish my conversation with them. Doubly irritating if they flagged me down to find out something...

Don't even get me started on this whole "Bluetooth headset" thing...

Yes, I have a cell phone. I have given the number to a total of about six people - I got it for my convenience, not everyone else's. You will be assuming a certain amount of risk in calling me (my wife is the ONLY person who can call my pocket "just on account of 'cause!") and the rule is that there had damn well better be a medical emergency, and 911 will be involved. If there isn't an emergency, there will be when I get there - and you'll need 911 anyhow, so you might as well call them. Calling me to stop at the store on my way somewhere is a guarantee that it WILL NOT happen. WHy can't more people take an attitude like that?

I keep having people offer me "cell phone planes" with 1500 minutes a month - that's 25 hours. I don't spend 25 hours a damn YEAR on the phone - could I get something like that, but only billed once a year? I think $150 per annum for 'phone use is a lot better than $30-40 per month...

Sorry - I'm rambling. However, Bravo Zulu to you for taking an interest in what your kids are doing and how they'll turn out - they should end up with a discernable sense of social responsibility, and end up without that whole sense of "me first" that is causing a decline in American society...

5-90

I think the lawsuit is out west somewheres...hmm, I wonder where? :D I heard in on CNN this morning. The only time my cell rings it's my wife - 99%. Her number must have gotten written on a toilet wall around town somewhere. She keeps getting calls, mostly hang-ups, from all local numbers. I'm tempted to call some of them back just to find out which toilet so I can go scratch it out.

Thanks for the reinforcement with the boys. The girl might turn out different :laugh3: She's only 7 months right now and already pretty independent of thought.

The #1 rule with the boys is, "Do Right." No matter what anybody else is doing, you do right.
#2 is, "Make Mommy happy." Life is waaaay easier when Mommy is happy.
#3 The grocery/discount/department/etc. store is not a playground. No running - no racing carts - no playing with toys - do not touch stuff that we are not buying. If you're bored - be bored. Do not try to entertain yourself in the middle of the grocery store. Be quite, follow along, try to help, but do not stand between Mommy and whatever it is on the shelf she happens to be looking at.
Simple rules, but oh so tough to pound them into those little heads.

edit: My appologies to the west coast. The class action to force schools to allow cell phones is being filed in NY. http://www.textually.org/textually/archives/2006/07/012925.htm
Here's a better link http://www.nysun.com/article/36013?page_no=3

[XJ_Vikings]

#2 is, "Make Mommy happy." Life is waaaay easier when Mommy is happy.


if momma aint happy, nobody happy

[5-90]

Pity. New York actually has made DWY (Driving While Yakking) illegal in at least some places, so why this crap? I don't see as to how cell phones will "contribute to student safety," and there's just no reason to have them in schools.

Wouldn't it be fun to canvass area yards, round up all the goodies, and return them to the manufacturer or vendor to sort out? I'd not mind doing something like that - especially if they don't bother asking before using yards as a "storage ground." It's not that damn difficult to ask, don't you know, and you tend to get better results.

Still, why do kids in schools need to have their 'phones with them? Why do kids need 'phones in the first place? My boys asked me if they could have cell phones, and I told them that once they could pay for them (the phone, the service, and all,) they could have them. I'm not buying them, nor am I paying the bill.

Both of them got into some financial trouble from yakking overmuch, and guess who wasn't surprised?

5-90

[Wayne Sihler]

One of local school systems(public) just banned the use of camera phones in schools.it seems they are worried about cheating on tests.
Wayne

[XJ Dreamin']

I can't find a transcript of the CNN report, but one of the parents was going on about the kid needs to carry a cell phone so she can call him to find out where he is. Yo, lady! What makes you think he's going to tell you the truth! You think I didn't lie to my parents? You think my boys don't lie to me? Of course they do. I catch them at it all the time. If he's not at school, home or a job then he's somewhere he don't need to be. Get your lazy ass up and go find him.

Our school regs say no cell, pager, video games, Blackberry (WETFTI) within 300 feet of school boundary. If the kid drove to school and it's in the car parked on school property, they can take it. I'm not paying for no cell phone for my kid to yack and text when he's supposed to be learning. You go to school to learn.

[DIKASUN]

i thought you just were talking about talking about smokin' some good ole crack.

[XJ Dreamin']

i thought you just were talking about talking about smokin' some good ole crack.

No, we're on topic. It's not about drugs, exclusively, but about effective parenting. But, there was a drug problem back then, as well. At least during my back then - the '70's.