pc users getting ansy??

[jpars]

http://www.apple.com/macpro/

i think apple just woke up and decided it was time to kick some ass. the days of the "slow and incompatible" mac seem to be blown out of the water.......

[jeepdude10000]

mac = :speepin:

[Menzenski]

I think my next computer's going to be a Mac. I dropped Windows for Linux about a year ago, and haven't been able to get it to work to my satisfaction, but there's no way I'm going back to Windows.

[whatevah]

hehe amazing what they can do with better processors ;)

I know my college won't upgrade for another 5 years or so... sheesh, the drives are so bad, you usually have to reboot a couple times to give the hard discs time to get up to readable speed. they finally moved to OS X in the spring, and this is the "Mac lab" for the graphic design department.

I run Windows at home, but I'm not really attached to anything, I'll use whatever is the best OS for the purpose.

[Kittrell]

mac = :speepin:

Did Mac do you wrong 20 years ago? You post negativity in every Mac thread that hits this board. What wonderful piece of equipment are you working with? Let me guess, you built it yourself, so its better then everything out there..................:rolleyes:

[Menzenski]

Let me guess, you built it yourself, so its better then everything out there..................:rolleyes:
Or he works for Microsoft or something.

[5-90]

I'm waiting for the software base for Linux to compare to Winblows. Basing MacOS X off of the Linux kernel makes the damn thing useful, and it was a good sign when the PowerPC came along and Apple started using PCI expansion slots.

I had an Apple years ago (Apple IIe!) but I didn't carry on with that line because the software wasn't there, and the expandability wasn't there.

I'd not think I was getting "antsy," but it's nice to see they're trying to make the Apple useful. Going to an Intel core may not be the greatest thing (everyone else is using them, and the MC68k is a better chip in quite a few ways...) but it should make it easier for them to deal with updates. I've not used a Xeon machine, so I'm not sure how it works - but it seems to be just an upgraded PII with serious L2 cache.

Will I run out and buy one? Probably not - my NetVista 6790-G40 works well for heavy lifting and long-term jobs, and my ThinkPad T30 does everyting else I need to do while I'm out and about. And, I can find software to do what I need, and I know basic C programming, so I can write basic apps when I need to. Besides, will PalmOS work with the new Apples? I also use the T30 as a development platform for some PalmOS apps I'm working on (slowly, but I'm working on them...)

No, I'm not "antsy." I am in fact rather pleased - at least Apple is trying to catch up with the PC market (open architecture was a HUGE boost to PC sales!) At least Apple purists will have useful points in their arguments now...

5-90

[Weasel]

wonder if you can buy just the case, thats a nice case.

[Root Moose]

I'm waiting for the software base for Linux to compare to Winblows. Basing MacOS X off of the Linux kernel makes the damn thing useful, and it was a good sign when the PowerPC came along and Apple started using PCI expansion slots.

I'd not think I was getting "antsy," but it's nice to see they're trying to make the Apple useful. Going to an Intel core may not be the greatest thing (everyone else is using them, and the MC68k is a better chip in quite a few ways...) but it should make it easier for them to deal with updates. I've not used a Xeon machine, so I'm not sure how it works - but it seems to be just an upgraded PII with serious L2 cache.


A little clarification...

OSX uses the Mach kernel with a FreeBSD-like userland. There is nothing Linux-like in OSX short of being a UNIX operating system. NeXTStep was Mach/BSD back in the mid 1990s IIRC.

PPC != MC68k;

Xeon rocks. We've been using them in SMP servers for about 4 years now with Gentoo. Super stable, fast enough. We haven't been using them for compute engines though. We recently started bringing in 64 bit AMDs for compute stuff. Before that we used SPARC.

[Root Moose]

wonder if you can buy just the case, thats a nice case.

Wait a while, some Chinese company will probably produce something very similar for PC hardware soon if they haven't already.

[Weasel]

yeah but will it have the same layout? Maybe it's not as nice as it looks but the layout of the case seems to be excellent. And I like the no clutter front.

[streetpirate]

my first greater than 166mhz pc was a xeon server (which was recently STOLEN! bastards)
dual 500mhz 2mb L2 (experemental intel processors and chassis, try to find those at the store)

ran like a 3 legged dog

[DaJudge]

New Zeons are fast! Very fast! Work with them everyday in HP Servers. I run a bunch of 2 ways and a few 4 and 8 way servers. They are much faster than a standard processor. May be due to the mega cache but but they are faster.

I have a new Macbook Pro on its way for testing(benefits of being the IT manager). We will see how that goes. I haven't used a Mac in a long time and hated the old ones. I have been messing around with someones at work and it seems pretty good.

The real hope is that it will wake Microsloth up! They have been turning out some great marketing and no real great products for a while.

[87manche]

Wait a while, some Chinese company will probably produce something very similar for PC hardware soon if they haven't already.
no they won't
Apple is quite zealous in the lawsuit department.
Remeber the Emachine EOne?
That looked an awful lot like an iMac, and Apple was having none of that

[Root Moose]

New Zeons are fast! Very fast! Work with them everyday in HP Servers. I run a bunch of 2 ways and a few 4 and 8 way servers. They are much faster than a standard processor. May be due to the mega cache but but they are faster.

If you are compiling any sysems from source try using the -Os flag on gcc instead of -O2 or -O3. Sometimes your program(s) will fit entirely in the cache. :D Wanna see something fly....

[Root Moose]

no they won't
Apple is quite zealous in the lawsuit department.
Remeber the Emachine EOne?
That looked an awful lot like an iMac, and Apple was having none of that

True, but I thought I remembered seeing something that looked a lot like a PPC tower (recently).

Don't forget - China doesn't give a wet fart's care about copyright or intellectual property laws.

[GSequoia]

You may see simliar cases - if you do and you want it grab it fast before it's gone.

Apple's designs have been copied since the iMac came out - all the copies seem to come and go rather quickly ;)

eMachines wasn't hte only large company to do it. Compaq had a desktop that looked a LOT like a PowerMac G4 (Tower, not cube). That one may have been different enough not to be suable but it sure is funny how graphite translucant plastic didn't seem to exist before Apple used it! :D