Extreme 4x4 [Jeep Cherokee]

[93_xj]

Today, 8/13 at 12:00 eastern time on spike tv, the show extreme 4x4 will be airing an episode about Cherokee's.

Ian and Jessi take a '95 Jeep Cherokee XJ and tear it down then turn it into a spec class Baja racer. These buggies run Best in the Desert, and SCORE competitions. This is a great way to get introduced to desert racing! Plus! back down to Naples and Florida Sports Park for the wildest looking 'water' Jeeps you'll ever see!

[mdl]

Watching it now... Good show.

[Atl XJ]

I was just about to post this :D

[jeepdude10000]

at least they are not building a custom suspension themselves, that way it wont fall apart. HAHAHAHA

[Atl XJ]

All they did to it on todays show was a rollcage, long arm kit, 33s, and the exhaust.

It was kinda cool though since that XJ is exactly like mine was stock, just a different shade of green.

[riverfever]

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





That must mean that Trucks is right around the corner....MATEYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[MogifiedXJ]

Aghhhh!!! I missed it. I'm sure they'll rerun it about 15 times though. ;)

[johnlv6]

Anyone find any pictures? I'm stuck at work :(. The link someone gave me to the show just has a stock picture.

[XJ_Vikings]

curse being in a different time zone then home

[IntrepidXJ]

if you guys that missed it want to see it so badly :p

http://www.xtreme4x4tv.com/ondemand.html

[93_xj]

they make it seem so easy.

that xj they had had no rust. they were just unscrewing bolts and replacing all the stuff. no need for pb blaster, no problems.

wish everything went that good.

[XJCreeper]

Thanks for the heads up! Got it on tivo and I'll be able to enjoy it after the kids birthday party:firedevil

[Atl XJ]

they make it seem so easy.

that xj they had had no rust. they were just unscrewing bolts and replacing all the stuff. no need for pb blaster, no problems.

wish everything went that good.
It is that easy. I have pretty much that exact XJ, I even have the chrome package like that one :D, and it has zero rust at 130k miles.
IDK why they didn't get a base model 2 door though...

That Country was in great shape, it was kind of a waste.

[Fergie]

they make it seem so easy.

that xj they had had no rust. they were just unscrewing bolts and replacing all the stuff. no need for pb blaster, no problems.

wish everything went that good.
It does...in AZ, NM, UT and other choice areas.

[DaJudge]

they make it seem so easy.

that xj they had had no rust. they were just unscrewing bolts and replacing all the stuff. no need for pb blaster, no problems.

wish everything went that good.

Sure don't miss being in the rust belt!

[Jonnyjpr]

Thats a nice fittin xj. Wish mine looked that good.

[DrMoab]

It does...in AZ, NM, UT and other choice areas.
You are kidding right? AZ and NM maybe but Utah is very proud of their salt.(god knows we have enough)

[JeeperG]

You are kidding right? AZ and NM maybe but Utah is very proud of their salt.(god knows we have enough) LIAR you act like we have a Lake of it or something. ;)

[Gnat5680]

i missed it and i cant get it on demand. it does not show up there.

[Chero-King]

Chances are it'll be on next saturday again.
And you didnt really miss a whole lot, they just did a inner cage, and threw on some leafs and coils.

[Gnat5680]

how much lift did they do?

[Ben H]

Just saw it. According to the show, all I need for "Jeep Speed" is some racing shocks. Sweet :D

[Fergie]

You are kidding right? AZ and NM maybe but Utah is very proud of their salt.(god knows we have enough)
You have to realize that I have only been to the southern border of UT, and through Moab, so my experiences with MOMO land are limited.

[Rob Mayercik]

It's nice to see an XJ finally getting some more air time on these sorts of shows - there hasn't been one since Stacy David bolted a Skyjacker kit onto one several years back on Trucks!

I liked the idea of the teflon coated rims (gunk doesn't stick and throw the balance off), but unless it's some really special stuff, I don't see it lasting too long in a rocky environment.

What really gets me is that they slapped 33s onto this truck and they don't seem to be considering upgrading the gears. Is this sort of information (as well as speedometer recalibration that doesn't include a PDA) so trivial as to be beneath mention? I noticed this with several Trucks! episodes as well - slap on some bigger tires, and off you go. I realize that you can't cover everything on a 30 minute show, but come on - isn't the impact of tire size on axle gearing and speedometer accuracy worthy of at least mentioning?

That aside, I intend to follow the progress of this project.

Rob

[YMMV]

how much lift did they do?

6" Rusty's LA setup.

[DrMoab]

You have to realize that I have only been to the southern border of UT, and through Moab, so my experiences with MOMO land are limited.
You live in Flag. Don't they use salt on the roads there? Or are they smart and just use sand?

[Fergie]

You live in Flag. Don't they use salt on the roads there? Or are they smart and just use sand?
Cinders for the most part, but ADOT switched to salt for the Interstates the last few years.

[CartsXJ]

It's nice to see an XJ finally getting some more air time on these sorts of shows - there hasn't been one since Stacy David bolted a Skyjacker kit onto one several years back on Trucks!

I liked the idea of the teflon coated rims (gunk doesn't stick and throw the balance off), but unless it's some really special stuff, I don't see it lasting too long in a rocky environment.

What really gets me is that they slapped 33s onto this truck and they don't seem to be considering upgrading the gears. Is this sort of information (as well as speedometer recalibration that doesn't include a PDA) so trivial as to be beneath mention? I noticed this with several Trucks! episodes as well - slap on some bigger tires, and off you go. I realize that you can't cover everything on a 30 minute show, but come on - isn't the impact of tire size on axle gearing and speedometer accuracy worthy of at least mentioning?

That aside, I intend to follow the progress of this project.

Rob

I totally agree with you....I was waiting for them to mention gears and such, but nothing. You can put all the engine add-ons you want to to a stock 4.0L, its still gonna dog out of the gate, unless they keep it in 4low. I've had my eye on that rim for a long time and I am glad to see it on a cherokee, nice looking set-up. I think they should have done a little more research when looking for a JeepSpeed worthy suspension.....at least full-traction or something that would have gotten them a multi-linked up front, their castor is gonna change like a mofo. And 7*degrees postive castor up front with a 6.5", I wonder what their front driveshaft pinion angle looks like. Gonna vibe like crazy at speed. The are gonna at least need 4.10's to even begin to hope to run in 4high or 4 Full-time.......Plus what about a SYE for the back........I think they need to do a little more research.

[OT]

I totally agree with you....I was waiting for them to mention gears and such, but nothing. You can put all the engine add-ons you want to to a stock 4.0L, its still gonna dog out of the gate, unless they keep it in 4low. I've had my eye on that rim for a long time and I am glad to see it on a cherokee, nice looking set-up. I think they should have done a little more research when looking for a JeepSpeed worthy suspension.....at least full-traction or something that would have gotten them a multi-linked up front, their castor is gonna change like a mofo. And 7*degrees postive castor up front with a 6.5", I wonder what their front driveshaft pinion angle looks like. Gonna vibe like crazy at speed. The are gonna at least need 4.10's to even begin to hope to run in 4high or 4 Full-time.......Plus what about a SYE for the back........I think they need to do a little more research.
You nailed it and that's why they should have hired me for that job instead of that hoser.
Fawk, can you imagine the influx of NOOBS we're gonna get because of that epileptisode?

[Menzenski]

6" Rusty's LA setup.
Is that even a JeepSpeed-legal kit?

[Skullver]

Is that even a JeepSpeed-legal kit?
yes it is legal, I would not run radius arms in that environment, our rig is full traction, cage tied to all suspension, eveything reinforced, every seam on the unibody grinded and welded, trussed spooled 35-spline 9", hydro bumps on all four corners, they failed to address the shockmounts, got a pre-bent cage that ties only to the floor, etc etc. I was extremely disapointed in that show. That thing will not only be undergeared but will crack in half, soon if they try to race it. Ours has taken over 12-months to build and it is another few months until TESTING, much more to building a capable desert racer than what they covered, hopefully it will do better than the Ranger they built, but doubtfull. Anyways good to see coverage.... at least.

[Ironmen77]

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=94016

[Skullver]

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=94016
I fail to see the relevance of the supplied link.

[OT]

x2.

[TRAILREADYXJ]

they make it seem so easy.

that xj they had had no rust. they were just unscrewing bolts and replacing all the stuff. no need for pb blaster, no problems.

wish everything went that good.

Of course! They always make it look easy on TV :)

My 90 XJ came apart smooth with little rust, and it's been in VA all its life, I was quite suprised!

EDIT: They are probably using Rustys because they are adveritsed on "power block" all the time. I doubt they got to choose.

[Ironmen77]

I fail to see the relevance of the supplied link.

It will probably become clearer as this thread expands.

Substitute "Cherokee on Xtreme 4x4" for lightbulb in the thread.

[Skullver]

Substitute "Cherokee on Xtreme 4x4" for lightbulb in the thread.
And then it becomes even more irrelevant, thanks for the valuable insight there buddy.

[little red cheroke]

i wish i could have installed my kit in half an hour, and take time for comercial brakes.

as for the pre bent cage. came from a local shop, EOR. they suck. my friend had a 8.8 swap done there on his YJ. the didnt set the pinion angle right so they used shims. and they only tac welded the shock mounts on. they put a custom exhaust on it but it rubbed on the rear drive shaft.

nother buddy had a custom bumper built there for his ZJ. it was basicly the same design as the JCR offroad REAR bumper for ZJ's but it was put on the front. and to mount it they drilled and used self tapping bolts into the front 'cross member'. looked pretty funney acually.

nother guy at my school with a XJ had a lift put on there. RE 3.5". they didnt give him his RE LCA's or extended front brake lines. also didnt take the studs out for the t-case drop. instid they cut them off and tac welded the 1" drop on.


i hope a newb dosent see that show and get a XJ and throw a 6" lift on there and not do any thing about rear drive shaft.

[OT]

i hope a newb dosent see that show and get a XJ and throw a 6" lift on there and not do any thing about rear drive shaft.
Why not?
I ran a 6" lift for a year with the stock drivetrain and only replaced it with a two piece when I cratered my TC.
Most pre-'97 XJs don't have vibe isses at that height.
If they'd had a '97+, then yes, I'd have to agree with you, even if they only put on a 3" lift.

Oh, and that place sounds like it's run by a clusterfu*k of delinquents.
I'd love for some scoundrel to try and cheat me with some sub-standard work or theft of my parts.:twak:

[TRAILREADYXJ]

Why not?
I ran a 6" lift for a year with the stock drivetrain and only replaced it with a two piece when I cratered my TC.
Most pre-'97 XJs don't have vibe isses at that height.
If they'd had a '97+, then yes, I'd have to agree with you, even if they only put on a 3" lift.


X2....Except the "cratering" part.

[BRIANHO13]

as for the pre bent cage. came from a local shop, EOR. they suck.

That cage isn't a bad deal though, although the tube notching consits of milling, and the edges are crap and difficult to weld.

[Atl XJ]

yes it is legal, I would not run radius arms in that environment, our rig is full traction, cage tied to all suspension, eveything reinforced, every seam on the unibody grinded and welded, trussed spooled 35-spline 9", hydro bumps on all four corners, they failed to address the shockmounts, got a pre-bent cage that ties only to the floor, etc etc. I was extremely disapointed in that show. That thing will not only be undergeared but will crack in half, soon if they try to race it. Ours has taken over 12-months to build and it is another few months until TESTING, much more to building a capable desert racer than what they covered, hopefully it will do better than the Ranger they built, but doubtfull. Anyways good to see coverage.... at least.
I agree, they're in way over their heads. I hope they do a lot more to it in future episodes to address some of these concerns, but I'm not holding my breath.

It was just kinda odd to be flipping through the channels and see them working on a Jeep pretty much identical to mine.

[shortxjdoug]

Most pre-'97 XJs don't have vibe isses at that height.
If they'd had a '97+, then yes, I'd have to agree with you, even if they only put on a 3" lift.


i have a 98 with 5" of lift and no t-case drop and have barely any vibration at all, far less than some i know who get vibes from a bb in pre 97's, people always tell me that but i've had the worst problems with vibes and DS angle out of pre 97 xj's

[BRUISER]

Well The reason that XJ is so nice...

Is because Ian asked a fellow XJ'er to get him one.. so why not get him the nicest I could possibly find.. I mean I want folks to look at XJ's and say DAMN those things look nice with a lift, etc..Why not Pimp our style ride on TV :)

As for a 2 door vs a 4 door.. I was having a hrad time finding one in as nice condition...

As for not showing it all.. I have no idea but I am sure it was difficult to get all the stuff they got donw on the XJ in one Aired Show.. so My guess is that they will show mopre on another episode..

as for the following:
You nailed it and that's why they should have hired me for that job instead of that hoser.


I will say this I have met Ian and hung out with him around cameras and away from the TV cameras and he is a down to earth nice guy.. so I say well damn if you think you coul dbe doing better submit your resume and see if they pick you ....(IE: I have no connection to the show/production company/or hosts)

http://www.powerblocktv.com/employment.html

Look familiar :)
http://www.impaks.com/images/ken/100_0235copy.jpg

[Dirt]

Your tow rig is awesome!

seriously.

[seanR]

I will say this I have met Ian and hung out with him around cameras and away from the TV cameras and he is a down to earth nice guy..
Get him on here and have him get our input on what an XJ should be like.
Hw was on pirate, we more class than they do....


Na, on second thought, we would rather have Jessi......

[OT]

so I say well damn if you think you coul dbe doing better submit your resume and see if they pick you ....
I did, but I didn't go to Wyotech, so I was disqualified before I even submitted my resume'.:hang:
It's good they have you as a consultant, but it'd be better if they had a NAXJA MEMBER as one.
Anyway, I don't even know why I'm posting in this thread, other than to bash on that corporate clusterXXXX of a show.

[Rob Mayercik]

Get him on here and have him get our input on what an XJ should be like.
Hw was on pirate, we more class than they do....


Na, on second thought, we would rather have Jessi......

As much as it pains me to say it, I doubt either would end up coming on here - if they popped up on forums for each type of truck they worked on for the show, they wouldn't have time to do the show.

You're right about us having more class than Pirate though. Unfortunately, we're probably not extreme enough.

Say Bruiser, are they going to address gearing and speedo correction on the show with this project? Both would be critical to a desert racer, I'd think.

Rob

[Xtreme Ian]

So I won't show up here to post in the thread...wht not, the reason I post on Pirate is because I was member there before I got this job so why not continue there.

Bruiser steered me over here to rear this thread about the build up on the show. and after reading what has been said I will "chime in" about the project.

1) Why a 4 door, although the 2 door 5 speed 2wd is the lighter of the XJ and currently the hot ticket in Jeep Speed we had trouble finding one. So we settled for the 4 door. Probably depending on the course, we might install the SYE and run the 2wd front axle, and keep the live front axle for the back up

2) Additional plans for the project. If you remeber at the end of the show I said, next time we have to deal with alot of other things before this truck is ready for the desert. In the next show we will do just that

3) Rear axle swap, SYE, and additional bracing....these are all items that will be covered later

4) Essentially Off Road, although I cannot speak of their service...I can say that the cage kit was not only a perfect fit and "Jeep Speed" legal they are the only ones who make one that follows Jeep Speed rules.

5) OT, I am sorry that you didn't get a chance to try out for the job..but I can say that I didn't go to Wyo Tech either and I was hired.

[OT]

I stand corrected.:thumbup:
Thanks for coming to us and clearing up some things.
Too bad you guys are bound by corporate sponsorship contracts, as there's
much better parts and layouts (read: fabrication and engineering) that could be covered
and used rather than Rusty's.
For fu*k's sake, Rusty's?:nono:
Do a search for Rusty's control arm weld failure, and the like.
Leave the boltons for the Trucks! puppets.
Stick around here, you might learn something you can use in your builds.
I still think it should have been me.:gag:

[87manche]

So I won't show up here to post in the thread...wht not, the reason I post on Pirate is because I was member there before I got this job so why not continue there.

Bruiser steered me over here to rear this thread about the build up on the show. and after reading what has been said I will "chime in" about the project.

1) Why a 4 door, although the 2 door 5 speed 2wd is the lighter of the XJ and currently the hot ticket in Jeep Speed we had trouble finding one. So we settled for the 4 door. Probably depending on the course, we might install the SYE and run the 2wd front axle, and keep the live front axle for the back up

2) Additional plans for the project. If you remeber at the end of the show I said, next time we have to deal with alot of other things before this truck is ready for the desert. In the next show we will do just that

3) Rear axle swap, SYE, and additional bracing....these are all items that will be covered later

4) Essentially Off Road, although I cannot speak of their service...I can say that the cage kit was not only a perfect fit and "Jeep Speed" legal they are the only ones who make one that follows Jeep Speed rules.

5) OT, I am sorry that you didn't get a chance to try out for the job..but I can say that I didn't go to Wyo Tech either and I was hired.
don't mine OT, I peed in his cornflakes earlier.
Welcome from the MWC.
have you decided what gears to run?
I didn't see that episode, it's on the DVR, just haven't had a chance to watch it.
Who's driving the thing in jeepspeed?
what kind of lead time do you have on the show? I imagine that the next episode is already laid on tape, so why not just spill the beans.

[BRIANHO13]

I didn't see that episode, it's on the DVR, just haven't had a chance to watch it.


too busy being a post whore?:D

[87manche]

too busy being a post whore?:D
:D
I hit 3K 24 hours ago, now I'm at 3040.
I think I have a problem.

[BRIANHO13]

So I won't show up here to post in the thread...wht not, the reason I post on Pirate is because I was member there before I got this job so why not continue there.

Bruiser steered me over here to rear this thread about the build up on the show. and after reading what has been said I will "chime in" about the project.

1) Why a 4 door, although the 2 door 5 speed 2wd is the lighter of the XJ and currently the hot ticket in Jeep Speed we had trouble finding one. So we settled for the 4 door. Probably depending on the course, we might install the SYE and run the 2wd front axle, and keep the live front axle for the back up

2) Additional plans for the project. If you remeber at the end of the show I said, next time we have to deal with alot of other things before this truck is ready for the desert. In the next show we will do just that

3) Rear axle swap, SYE, and additional bracing....these are all items that will be covered later

4) Essentially Off Road, although I cannot speak of their service...I can say that the cage kit was not only a perfect fit and "Jeep Speed" legal they are the only ones who make one that follows Jeep Speed rules.

5) OT, I am sorry that you didn't get a chance to try out for the job..but I can say that I didn't go to Wyo Tech either and I was hired.

Welcome to the boards Ian.

[OT]

Oh, and Ian, you don't have to be so PC with us.
We/I can take it if we/I deserve it.
Don't you ever just want to push that chick outta the way?

[Xtreme Ian]

That show was filmed less than 4 weeks ago. We will not shoot the second episode until we get closer to Parker.

I have not really decided what gears to run, we might just stick with stockers and concentrate on "strength" buildup. the plans are to run it in Jeep Speed 1 and then bring it back and re-build it.

I don't know Rusty was more than willing to pony up his kit for us to race on (some were not, sure install it....but don't race it!!!) so if it breaks you will see it on TV.

[BRIANHO13]

Don't you ever just want to push that chick outta the way?

She would kick his ass.

[BRIANHO13]

I don't know Rusty was more than willing to pony up his kit for us to race on (some were not, sure install it....but don't race it!!!) so if it breaks you will see it on TV.

I have wheeled the crap out of that kit, no problems yet.

[87manche]

any kind of traction device?
and does that thing have an 8.25 in the back or a 35?
god help you if it's a 35, I worry about mine daily and I'm on 31's andnot racing in the desert.

[shortxjdoug]

so if it breaks you will see it on TV.

sweet! i like watching things break. welcome to the board by the way....

[Jeepsterboy101]

any kind of traction device?
and does that thing have an 8.25 in the back or a 35?
god help you if it's a 35, I worry about mine daily and I'm on 31's andnot racing in the desert.


3) Rear axle swap, SYE, and additional bracing....these are all items that will be covered later




Welcome to the boards Ian. Why aren't you a member yet?!?! :D

[Atl XJ]

So I won't show up here to post in the thread...wht not, the reason I post on Pirate is because I was member there before I got this job so why not continue there.

Bruiser steered me over here to rear this thread about the build up on the show. and after reading what has been said I will "chime in" about the project.

1) Why a 4 door, although the 2 door 5 speed 2wd is the lighter of the XJ and currently the hot ticket in Jeep Speed we had trouble finding one. So we settled for the 4 door. Probably depending on the course, we might install the SYE and run the 2wd front axle, and keep the live front axle for the back up

2) Additional plans for the project. If you remeber at the end of the show I said, next time we have to deal with alot of other things before this truck is ready for the desert. In the next show we will do just that

3) Rear axle swap, SYE, and additional bracing....these are all items that will be covered later

4) Essentially Off Road, although I cannot speak of their service...I can say that the cage kit was not only a perfect fit and "Jeep Speed" legal they are the only ones who make one that follows Jeep Speed rules.

5) OT, I am sorry that you didn't get a chance to try out for the job..but I can say that I didn't go to Wyo Tech either and I was hired.
Just out of curiousity, what do you do with the stock parts, that were in good shape, that come off the vehicles? I always wondered that. Especially, on that XJ it was in really good shape.

I wouldn't mind having that rear seat bottom cushion. It was in great shape, mine has a tear in it. :D

[DieselSJ]

Before you guys go bashing on them for their buildup, tell me this...exactly how many of you are out there racing JeepSpeed or have built a desert racer? I'm not saying that anything they are doing is wrong or right, I'm just wanting to know how many people here actually have enough first hand experience to be judging what they do?

Oh, and probably the best cage builder out there for JS is T&J's in Orange, CA. They have built more JS cages than any other shop.

Ian - can't wait to see you guys (and gal) out there.

Mark
JeepSpeed 1717

[XJCreeper]

Welcome to the forum Ian :thumbup:. Hopefully the Jeep came with the Chrysler 8.25" axle:firedevil. Sure looks nice :D. It would be cool if you could install one of Rusty's beefy steering conversions. The Over the Knuckle one would be real cool. There'd be some welding in it for Jesse :clap:!
Also be sure to install the braces he has for the trackbar bracket and the steering box. IMHO this is an important mod Rusty's offers if you want to keep you steering tight and you steering box attached to the frame. Have fun flogging the XJ beast you and Jesse are gonna build and I'm look forward to seeing it transform on the show. And getting the hell beat out of it:eeks1::roll:!

[Rob Mayercik]

So I won't show up here to post in the thread...wht not, the reason I post on Pirate is because I was member there before I got this job so why not continue there.

Bruiser steered me over here to rear this thread about the build up on the show. and after reading what has been said I will "chime in" about the project.

Welcome to NAXJA, Ian. Nice of you to drop in and prove me wrong. I stand (most happily) corrected on that count. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the XJ build.

I think it's safe to say all of us here are pleased to see an XJ finally stepping into the Offroad TV limelight with its short-wheelbase bretheren.

Feel free to drop by and say hello whenever the mood strikes.

Rob

[BRUISER]

Just out of curiousity, what do you do with the stock parts, that were in good shape, that come off the vehicles? I always wondered that. Especially, on that XJ it was in really good shape.

I wouldn't mind having that rear seat bottom cushion. It was in great shape, mine has a tear in it. :D

I can say I have no idea what they do the parts but...

You have no idea how nice that XJ is..
I was having a hard time turning it over to him.. I almost kept it fo myself and found him another one..

[Phantom]

I can say I have no idea what they do the parts but...

You have no idea how nice that XJ is..
I was having a hard time turning it over to him.. I almost kept it fo myself and found him another one..

I saw it..that XJ looked very nice...too nice. Oh well...at least it will be a celebrity, hopefully they wont do a Jesse Jerk move and trash it on its first outing.

PS: Ill take the interior parts :)

[Ghost]

I missed most of the episode but will look for it in reruns.


I don't know Rusty was more than willing to pony up his kit for us to race on (some were not, sure install it....but don't race it!!!) so if it breaks you will see it on TV.
On the Rusty's note that does not surprise me about him. He is a decent guy and has issues just like all the other builders. How many of you have actually meet him and talked to him? Do any of yu remember when RE had to shut there forums down bc of product bashing? It is no doubt that you get what you pay for in this industry. But, you also have to realise most people do nto bash em liek we do, and a lot of the 4x4 market these days is mall krawlers.......

[OT]

Hey, Glen, you had me, 'til the last sentence......:wierd:

[Menzenski]

When is this show on, and on what channel (Spike?)?

[Jeepsterboy101]

Yea, its on Spike on Sunday's at like noon or so.

[DrMoab]

Yea, its on Spike on Sunday's at like noon or so.
Actually it first airs on Saturday with a rerun on Sunday.

[Jeepsterboy101]

Actually it first airs on Saturday with a rerun on Sunday.

My bad....I stand corrected.

[Chero-King]

jeez your guys' airs late, it airs here at like 10:30AM, and the powerblock starts at 9. You guys are lucky. I'm usually not awake for it and just barely caught the last episode with the cherokee.

[Xtreme Ian]

Just out of curiousity, what do you do with the stock parts, that were in good shape, that come off the vehicles? I always wondered that. Especially, on that XJ it was in really good shape.

I wouldn't mind having that rear seat bottom cushion. It was in great shape, mine has a tear in it. :D

If they are in good shape we ussually give them up to someone we know who needs them. We really are not into selling parts, so if someone is in the right place at the right time, they get a pretty good set of seats, or tires and wheels.......

Sometimes we keep them "in storage" for later in case we need to return the vehicle to stock for whatever reason.

[DrMoab]

So...Ian, is it a new episode today? :D

Wondering if I should wait to go to work or not.

[jeepinxj01]

Hey Ian. Thanks for the show. I like watching, minus the damn commercials, but you have to pay the bills. Keep up the good work. I would like to see a rig built without the big floor lift and done in a driveway though. :spin1: Either way great show.

KyS

Almost forgot. Thanks for posting up

[OT]

Could you think about putting a clear floor in the XJ?

[OverlandXJ]

Has NAXJA considered an honorary membership to Ian and this vehicle being built?

Ian, have you considered having a few of our awesome fabricators on the show/build as XJ-Perts? :jester:

[lax17]

Well The reason that XJ is so nice...

Is because Ian asked a fellow XJ'er to get him one.. so why not get him the nicest I could possibly find.. I mean I want folks to look at XJ's and say DAMN those things look nice with a lift, etc..Why not Pimp our style ride on TV :)


I remember you saying you were delivering a Jeep but I didn't know it was going to be on extreme.

[rocklandxjer]

mine is showing a "suburban gorrilla" not cherokee...

[DrMoab]

mine is showing a "suburban gorrilla" not cherokee...
at least it is a new episode. Last week was a re-run

[rocklandxjer]

i guess, i didnt see the js cherokee, so i was lookin forward to checkin it out, o well always next week i guess

[Chero-King]

Could you think about putting a clear floor in the XJ?

not this again...

:laugh: :roll: :laugh:

[rocklandxjer]

lol yea man, how bout you do it and then let xtreme see it, then maybe theyll use it.... prob not.

though it sounds like a really nice idea and id really like to see the end result

[OT]

lol yea man, how bout you do it and then let xtreme see it, then maybe theyll use it.... prob not.

though it sounds like a really nice idea and id really like to see the end result
Already working on that.
As soon as I get it done, I'll show.

[EricT]

Has NAXJA considered an honorary membership to Ian and this vehicle being built?

Ian, have you considered having a few of our awesome fabricators on the show/build as XJ-Perts? :jester:

I like the way you think.

Welcome to the board Ian!

[OverlandXJ]

I like the way you think.

Welcome to the board Ian!


Really?!....usually i get a STFU..:shhh:

[OT]

Really?!....usually i get a STFU..:shhh:
STFU.
:laugh3:

Oh Ian,
Never mind about the glass floor.
It ain't all it's cranked up to be......

[red_01_xj]

ITS ON RERUN TODAY AND TOMORROW...IM GONNA WATCH IT, NEVER SAW THE FIRST ONE

[kj139]

I love the show and DVR it constantly. I've read a few bashing Jessi but I like her on the show. Hell, my wife actually watches this one with me just because she likes Jessi and thinks she's not some model acting like she knows how to wrench. In fact, after this episode, my wife called dibs on my parts XJ so she can build one similar to X-treme's. Not that she'll build it herself, but she's joining me in the garage nowadays! If Jessi can get my wife more interested in wheeling, then more power to her. Besides, she ain't hard to look at!

[swany]

when the hell are they gonna do a new show? seems like they did one and lost interest. i record it every weekend and havent seen a new one. WTF

[andersonsys]

All I know is that they, as well as other rich a$$holes need to get the concept out of their heads that only $50k-100k rock buggies, can do real fourwheeling. If they were smart they would set it up with gears, larger tires, lift kit, 4:1 T-case kit, a nice roll cage, bumpers, rocker protection, and take that thing somewhere like The Hammers, Moab, The Rubicon, Farmington NM, that will intrigue the people who watch the show. Most of us are people who bought our rigs for almost nothing, and spent what little money we had into making our $300 POS into a capable wheeling rig.

Also Desert racing is for the 2WD guys, there is no reason to waste 4wd parts on something a 2wd can do. People shouldn't associate Desert racing to a 4wd event. And if they do decide to use a 4wd , they should leave the Desert racing to the Toyota guys, they don't want to get those incapable pretty trucks dented anyway.

[Darky]

All I know is that they, as well as other rich a$$holes need to get the concept out of their heads that only $50k-100k rock buggies, can do real fourwheeling. If they were smart they would set it up with gears, larger tires, lift kit, 4:1 T-case kit, a nice roll cage, bumpers, rocker protection, and take that thing somewhere like The Hammers, Moab, The Rubicon, Farmington NM, that will intrigue the people who watch the show. Most of us are people who bought our rigs for almost nothing, and spent what little money we had into making our $300 POS into a capable wheeling rig.

Also Desert racing is for the 2WD guys, there is no reason to waste 4wd parts on something a 2wd can do. People shouldn't associate Desert racing to a 4wd event. And if they do decide to use a 4wd , they should leave the Desert racing to the Toyota guys, they don't want to get those incapable pretty trucks dented anyway.
Wow, maybe 87Manche peed in this guy's cornflakes too...4wd works pretty nice for the sand. If I have to slow down while playing in the washes, sometimes I stick it in 4x4 til I get back to speed. As far as Toys in the rocks, my buddy's 00 Taco has outcrawled me quite a few times...but he's got the E-locker from the factory vs my open diffs...Toys do pretty stinkin good in the rocks though.

[YeaItsSlo]

The jeep has a 35 in the rear :eek: Good luck with that and post up pics of jessi's tattoo's!!! :)

[Chero-King]

The jeep has a 35 in the rear Good luck with that


So I won't show up here to post in the thread...wht not, the reason I post on Pirate is because I was member there before I got this job so why not continue there.

Bruiser steered me over here to rear this thread about the build up on the show. and after reading what has been said I will "chime in" about the project.

1) Why a 4 door, although the 2 door 5 speed 2wd is the lighter of the XJ and currently the hot ticket in Jeep Speed we had trouble finding one. So we settled for the 4 door. Probably depending on the course, we might install the SYE and run the 2wd front axle, and keep the live front axle for the back up

2) Additional plans for the project. If you remeber at the end of the show I said, next time we have to deal with alot of other things before this truck is ready for the desert. In the next show we will do just that

3) Rear axle swap, SYE, and additional bracing....these are all items that will be covered later

4) Essentially Off Road, although I cannot speak of their service...I can say that the cage kit was not only a perfect fit and "Jeep Speed" legal they are the only ones who make one that follows Jeep Speed rules.

5) OT, I am sorry that you didn't get a chance to try out for the job..but I can say that I didn't go to Wyo Tech either and I was hired.

[YeaItsSlo]

I know its be said they were going to replace that axle, but many people asked what axle i had in it. And its a D35, you can see clearly on the show..

[red_01_xj]

i wonder what they will put in it

[YeaItsSlo]

i wonder what they will put in it

They will be lucky enough to score a xj 44.. Thats my guess anyways

[RESET]

I knew there was a reason I was getting satellite and DVR. To think, I told the girlfriend that I didn't care if we got SPIKE in the package. I did tell her that the only show in the power block worth watching was extreme.

[BRUISER]

I remember you saying you were delivering a Jeep but I didn't know it was going to be on extreme.


yup.. that ws the one.. got to see the shop and man wish i had a shop like they have.. very very nice..

[BrettM]

All I know is that they, as well as other rich a$$holes need to get the concept out of their heads that only $50k-100k rock buggies, can do real fourwheeling. If they were smart they would set it up with gears, larger tires, lift kit, 4:1 T-case kit, a nice roll cage, bumpers, rocker protection, and take that thing somewhere like The Hammers, Moab, The Rubicon, Farmington NM, that will intrigue the people who watch the show. Most of us are people who bought our rigs for almost nothing, and spent what little money we had into making our $300 POS into a capable wheeling rig.

Also Desert racing is for the 2WD guys, there is no reason to waste 4wd parts on something a 2wd can do. People shouldn't associate Desert racing to a 4wd event. And if they do decide to use a 4wd , they should leave the Desert racing to the Toyota guys, they don't want to get those incapable pretty trucks dented anyway.
there are several JeepSpeed races that basically require 4wd because of sand-washes. many of the JeepSpeed teams use a transfer case and swap between a drive axle and a beam axle for the front depending on the race.

[Atl XJ]

there are several JeepSpeed races that basically require 4wd because of sand-washes. many of the JeepSpeed teams use a transfer case and swap between a drive axle and a beam axle for the front depending on the race.

Yup, XJs are pretty easy to convert to 4wd and vice verse so many teams run both a 2wd and 4wd set up depending on the race.

[Atl XJ]

They finally had the follow up show on today. They put a 9" in the rear with 4.56 gears and a spool, re-inforced the D30 and put 4.56s in it, put prerunner style front fenders on it, SYE, suspension seat, and probably a few things I'm forgetting.

[XJRunner]

dammit I missed it

[neonrog]

It was good show...

[derrickdrew17]

You got to be kidding 1.99 to watch a show that I can record for free on my tv..wow

[XJRunner]

anyone wanna send me a copy??

[Atl XJ]

Just watch it next weekend. They re-run the shit out of their episodes. I bet it'll be on again at some point next sat or sunday morning.

[derrickdrew17]

yea anyone want to host it on some place that would be nice..

[joecool]

It should air this Saturday. They usually repeat the show on Sunday the following Saturday.

[dagr8tim]

Not to drag up and old topic, but I've caught afew of the EP's and have one or two of them on my media center. Did anyone ever get all 6 or however many parts there was to this in one place?