Rock River Arms....

[Ghost]

Anyone have any experience with there ar's? anyone own anything by them or know if they are decent weapons?

[DrMoab]

Anyone have any experience with there ar's? anyone own anything by them or know if they are decent weapons?
Slider has one.

I have shot it several times and know without a doubt that when I buy my next AR it will be a Rock River.

Also, my brother is the firearms Sgt for a local PD here. He just bought 30 of them for the dept. Every officer carries one. He owns several AR's personally and after buying his last Rock River he knew thats what the Dept should have. HTH.

[lazarus]

awesome platform, A friend of mine is guilty of getting the dea to order a few thousand. Hvae bought and sold a lot of these and they are great pieces.

[Ghost]

kool ty.

[planefixer]

Rock River is good stuff.:thumbup: :thumbup:

One of my best friends has a RR lower matched up to an MGI upper.Shoots real nice.

[thebluebuffalo]

i've got a rra ar pistol. i would own another one.

[ECKSJAY]

Make sure to get a real caliber. :eye:

[Ghost]

Make sure to get a real caliber. :eye:
Like 7.62?

[ECKSJAY]

Like 7.62?

Mmmmmmmmmm :)

[slider]

my rock river is the latest AR i've owned. i love it! i've had 3 other bushmasters and the would highly recomend the rock river over the bushmaster. the upper and lower fit tighter on the rock river than any of the bushmasters did with the accu-wedge. you don't need an accu-wedge with the rock river, and the trigger is awsome for an AR. it is now the gun that goes pretty much everywhere i do.


as far as the caliber.... i've got the m-14 for backup. :D

[dphillips]

I picked mine up about 3 years ago. Shoots well. Always goes to the range with me. Definitely one of my favorites. I don't even clean it that much. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/dannyp69/Lead%20delivery%20systems/DSC00207.jpg
If I had a complaint it would be purely aesthetic. Just me being a picky bitch! Mine has the flat top reciever and the removable sight base. The removable sights have alot of tooling/machining marks on it, but it wasn't bad enough to keep me from buying it. I thought you could see it in the picture, but it's hard to tell.

And now it doesn't matter. I took it off and replace it with an EOTech sight anyway.

[5-90]

Make sure to get a real caliber. :eye:

Match the RRA lower to an Alexander Arms upper in .50 Beowulf, perhaps? Or .458 SOCOM? I've shot both - they're fun.

[ECKSJAY]

Match the RRA lower to an Alexander Arms upper in .50 Beowulf, perhaps? Or .458 SOCOM? I've shot both - they're fun.

Was thinking more along the lines of 6.8mm SPC. :D .458 SOCOM is an acceptable answer though. :D

[Ghost]

I was going to get it in standard .223 since I'm looking for an M14 for the .308... Not familure with those rounds guys, but coming from you two I'm sure they are fun. :)

[5-90]

I was going to get it in standard .223 since I'm looking for an M14 for the .308... Not familure with those rounds guys, but coming from you two I'm sure they are fun. :)

Try your Google-Fu. I'm sure Alexander Arms handles the .50 Beo - I don't recall who does the .458. But yes, they're both fun!

Advantage to an AR? Once you have the lower built, you can get uppers in various calibres without going through an FFL. ATF considers the machined lower receiver half to be the "firearm" - so that's the part that's controlled. You can get barrelled uppers all day long without any trouble - until another Democrat gets elected, I think...

Uppers can be had in 9m/m, .45ACP, .50AE, 7.62x39, .458 SOCOM, .50 Beowulf, .300 Whisper - and pretty much anything else with no (or rebated) rim and an overall loaded length of 2.25" or less.

[ECKSJAY]

Uppers can be had in 9m/m, .45ACP, .50AE, 7.62x39, .458 SOCOM, .50 Beowulf, .300 Whisper - and pretty much anything else with no (or rebated) rim and an overall loaded length of 2.25" or less.

My favorite pistol-carbine upper was a 10mm... WOW at 100yds...

:)

[Ghost]

Yea I googled those different rounds. Would be neat to test them out though. Not going to hapen arround here though.

[5-90]

My favorite pistol-carbine upper was a 10mm... WOW at 100yds...

:)

You're up in WA, and WA allows private ownership of suppressors, right? Get a suppressed .300 Whisper upper if you want to have some real fun - it's a tackdriver out to about 200 yards.

The .300 whisper is based on either a .221 Fireball or .223 case (I don't recall which offhand,) blown out to take a .30 calibre lightweight pill. Load it to about 1000-1050fps, just barely subsonic.

[ECKSJAY]

You're up in WA, and WA allows private ownership of suppressors, right? Get a suppressed .300 Whisper upper if you want to have some real fun - it's a tackdriver out to about 200 yards.

The .300 whisper is based on either a .221 Fireball or .223 case (I don't recall which offhand,) blown out to take a .30 calibre lightweight pill. Load it to about 1000-1050fps, just barely subsonic.

Last I checked in WA we could purchase, own, and affix...but could not 'fire' with one attached. :rolleyes:

[dphillips]

I've been looking hard at the .50 Beowulf. As soon as I can get a good price on a lower I think I will be oredering it. Looks like a thumper to me and I'm pretty sure you can use the standard 30rd .223 magazines with just slight modification.

[ECKSJAY]

I've been looking hard at the .50 Beowulf. As soon as I can get a good price on a lower I think I will be oredering it. Looks like a thumper to me and I'm pretty sure you can use the standard 30rd .223 magazines with just slight modification.

The only problem I have with something like that is that you're limiting yourself with the caliber.

PERSONALLY I'd rather get a Saiga 12 and put slugs through it. :)

[lazarus]

the next one I build will be a 6.8, that round really has some teeth to it. ghost make sure to get an upper marked for 5.56 not .223. IIRC they rae dimesionally the same but the pressure created by the 5.56 is much higher, due to it being a nato round.

[Ghost]

PERSONALLY I'd rather get a Saiga 12 and put slugs through it. :)

Now that looks like a great home defefnse weapon! I like that one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXjwLJ3z9iM

[Ghost]

A questioin. I saw a used colt with 12 mags and a scope for $1100. Is that a decent deal? What is the problem with the colts as to why people are not recomending them?

[ECKSJAY]

A questioin. I saw a used colt with 12 mags and a scope for $1100. Is that a decent deal? What is the problem with the colts as to why people are not recomending them?

They're not recommending them because Colt does not sell to non-LE or Gov't anymore. They'll cut off resellers who sell to civilians.

[5-90]

Last I checked in WA we could purchase, own, and affix...but could not 'fire' with one attached. :rolleyes:

Gawd - talk about stupid...

dphillips - as I recall, you can use the standard 30-round .223 "banana" magazine for .50Beo & .458 SOCOM - it will hold about 10 rounds of each. You can check Alexander Arms for the .50 Beo (and now that I think on it, I think the .458 SOCOM was devised by - get this! - "Tromix Lead Delivery Systems." I love that name!)

So, you should be good.

[grandpaxj]

Anyone have any experience with there ar's? anyone own anything by them or know if they are decent weapons?
I have a RR A4 varmiter, out of the box and after sighting it in, I shot 5 shots in the SAME ragged hole at 100yds. Then at 200 slightly larger and at 300, I can hit an egg one shot COLD bore. DAMN GREAT GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I shot a 2 inch group at 600 yds.( hand loads of coarse)

[Ghost]

Stumbled across this a couple weks ago. Ended up getting it instead:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/xjghost/Guns/colt.jpg

Now let the learning begin!

[KRAKER]

So what is it? Besided the obvious A2 stuff. It looks A2/CAR 'esk. I ended up picking one up last weekend too. I got a RRA CAR lower. t's gonna be my first build.

[Ghost]

So what is it? Besided the obvious A2 stuff. It looks A2/CAR 'esk. I ended up picking one up last weekend too. I got a RRA CAR lower. t's gonna be my first build.
It's a Colt. 3x scope and 11 mags. Not sure who makes the scope. Been watching it for a few weeks. Made an offer and they decided to take it.

[KRAKER]

Nice Mil-spec? I kinda just bumped into mine for a killer deal. So i picked it up.

[SCW]

Nice.

Here's my Noveske just before my 5-year old shot it. He wasn't allowed to touch the trigger until the Kodak moment had ended :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/utahmom/108_1253.jpg

[KRAKER]

That is bitchen! Almost what I want mine to look like. SS, flip sights, full floater. Very nice. Did you build it? Specs?

[5-90]

The only thing I don't like about that rifle is the A3 upper - I never really cared for the flattop. I'd need a riser to use the scope anyhow, and I like my "fixed" sights to be truly fixed.

Maybe it's just me. But, backups should be Mark 1 Mod 0 simple.

Apart from that, damn nice rifle!

[Ghost]

Some close ups:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/xjghost/Guns/CAR150027.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/xjghost/Guns/CAR150029.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/xjghost/Guns/CAR150030.jpg

I think this thing needs some oil. Seems very dry inside. What areas should be oiled before opperation? I don't think this thing has been fired much if any.

[SCW]

That is bitchen! Almost what I want mine to look like. SS, flip sights, full floater. Very nice. Did you build it? Specs?

I did not build it, I decided that I could either nickle and dime my way to the top or simply buy a good rifle set up the way I like it. Still shopping for better optics, that scope was removed after the kids shot it. My 9-year old loved it, blasted off a bunch of rounds :D

Find the rifle and specs here- I did not spend that much, purchased it used.
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=r145p556&cat=51&page=1&search=&since=&status=

[slider]

I did not build it, I decided that I could either nickle and dime my way to the top or simply buy a good rifle set up the way I like it. Still shopping for better optics, that scope was removed after the kids shot it. My 9-year old loved it, blasted off a bunch of rounds :D

Find the rifle and specs here- I did not spend that much, purchased it used.
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=r145p556&cat=51&page=1&search=&since=&status=

now you just have to reward yourself by setting up on a nice dog town. we should get together this spring and i can show you some good dog towns.

[5-90]

now you just have to reward yourself by setting up on a nice dog town. we should get together this spring and i can show you some good dog towns.

For dogs and such, you'll probably want tho think about loads using the Hornady SXSP in light weights - I find them very accurate at longer ranges, consistently made. Just make sure to "dope out the drift" when you shoot tho - dog towns can usually see shots (as I recall) between 300-1000 yards, and wind is a huge factor with lightweight small-calibre pills. But, you probably know that already...

[DrMoab]

But, you probably know that already...
See as he is my cousin...that comment struck me as really funny.

If you only had any idea.

[SCW]

now you just have to reward yourself by setting up on a nice dog town. we should get together this spring and i can show you some good dog towns.

Absolutely. I've got about 1000 rounds downstairs right now and parts for another 3000, so I should still have some by spring :D Amazing how fast these stupid things will chew through a few hundred rounds.

There is a group here in SLC doing carbine training in a few weeks if you are interested. Gunsite is also putting on a class here in May, great price on it but only 20 slots open in the class.

[DrMoab]

Gunsite is also putting on a class here in May, great price on it but only 20 slots open in the class.
Whats a great price? Gunsite is really really coool

[SCW]

At their location the 5-day class is $1350. They are putting one on here (Hendricksen Range in Parley's Canyon) consolidated to 3 days, although they will still give a 5-day graduation certificate. $550, only 20 spots. I really wish I hadn't just chewed my wife out for spending money, I have the major guilt-trip going just thinking about writing a check for it...... :(

[DrMoab]

I really wish I hadn't just chewed my wife out for spending money, I have the major guilt-trip going just thinking about writing a check for it...... :(
Funny how that works. :D

[KRAKER]

Anybody ever do 3-gun matches? I think I'm gonna try it out later this year.

[SCW]

I did my first 3-gun on January 1, it was without question the most fun I've ever had with guns. Very product driven if you want to compete, I used my Beretta 12ga 391 and was limited to 3 shots between loadings. Some guys had $200 shotties (others had $2K shotties) with a 9-round mag and would smoke me on the stages that required 10-12 shots, I spend all my time reloading. I kicked a$$ on the pistol stages though!! We have 4 matches a year here (Utah) and one of them is done at night. Takes about 6 hours to complete the match.

I'd miss my own funeral before I'll miss the next 3-gun matches! And my good pistol will be back in my hands from the smith just in time for the next one.

Find info here if you are interested in coming up to shoot-
www.udpl.net

[sjkimmel99]

I think this thing needs some oil. Seems very dry inside. What areas should be oiled before opperation? I don't think this thing has been fired much if any.

In case nobody pm'd this.

Pretty much use an oil like BreakFree CLP on the bolt carrier. There are some other moly or teflon impregnated oils around, whatever it is should be on the light side.

Any shiny places like the 4 rails on the carrier, the underside where the hammer drags and the pin holding the bolt in. The bolt gas rings and body. The extractor hinge, a few drops into the trigger and mag release mechanism. A little bit into the buffer tube every once in a while will help quiet the sound of the spring. Inspect the gas rings periodically to make sure they aren't cracked or otherwise broken. Rotate the rings so the three gaps are spaced apart.

Don't oil the firing pin, it needs to freely slide back and forth. If you oil it and it gets gunked up from firing residue it may stick forward and you'll get a slam fire (or fires.) Most people say it's a bad idea to try and clean the gas tube, it doesn't get clogged anyway and pushing something in there like a pipe cleaner or piece of wire is just as likely to plug it up as anything else.

If you shoot it a lot consider looking for a bolt carrier carbon scraper. Screwdriver handle but the shaft has some scraping blades at the end with a bit of pilot shaft sticking out. Use to scrape the crap out of the bottom of the bottom of the bolt hole in the carrier. Otherwise you're trying to do it with screwdriver blades and such.


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[slider]

For dogs and such, you'll probably want tho think about loads using the Hornady SXSP in light weights - I find them very accurate at longer ranges, consistently made. Just make sure to "dope out the drift" when you shoot tho - dog towns can usually see shots (as I recall) between 300-1000 yards, and wind is a huge factor with lightweight small-calibre pills. But, you probably know that already...


i haven't used that bullet, but i do use the v-max alot. they seem to be good for most ranges. i also use berger match hp's for the really pin-point stuff.

being from WY. the wind has been known to cause problems with many of my shots. stepping up to a larger caliber seems to help somewhat. but some still don't find the mark. but hey.. i measure the amout of fun by how many rounds fired :D

[5-90]

i haven't used that bullet, but i do use the v-max alot. they seem to be good for most ranges. i also use berger match hp's for the really pin-point stuff.

being from WY. the wind has been known to cause problems with many of my shots. stepping up to a larger caliber seems to help somewhat. but some still don't find the mark. but hey.. i measure the amout of fun by how many rounds fired :D

You can also reduce drift by increasing projectile speed (it will still drift, it just takes a bit longer to do.) What calibre are you using? Have you tried something like a .25-06? I think you can get dies and barrels for a .22-06 as well, if you're doing long-range subcalibre shooting.

Short range? Isn't there a new high-speed .17 rimfire out now? I don't recall.

You should be able to find some fairly hairy chamberings in the 6m/m (.243), .25 calibre, or .22 calibre persuasion with a little looking.

[98XJSport]

Short range? Isn't there a new high-speed .17 rimfire out now? I don't recall.


.17 HMR I believe, .17 lead in a .22 mag casing, I bet it makes for a cool plinker. I haven't had the pleasure, unfortunatly.

[5-90]

.17 HMR I believe, .17 lead in a .22 mag casing, I bet it makes for a cool plinker. I haven't had the pleasure, unfortunatly.

I knew about the .17HMR - I just thought that someone had cranked it up again...

The .17HMR is a fun plinker! I don't have one myself, but compensations to having worked at a rifle range for a number of years is you eventually get to shoot damn near everything, sooner or later.

[98XJSport]

Well if there is a cranked up version I bet it's a blast to shoot. I grew up with a .22 in hand, if the .17 shells weren't more expensive it would make a great first gun or trapline firearm.

[DrMoab]

I have a .17HMR.

Most worthless gun in the wind I have ever owned.

At 50-75 yards in a wind a regular old .22 rimfire will kick its butt.

However...if there is no wind at all...and I mean not even a puff of a breeze...the HMR is a tack driver at 150 yards.

[slider]

You can also reduce drift by increasing projectile speed (it will still drift, it just takes a bit longer to do.) What calibre are you using? Have you tried something like a .25-06? I think you can get dies and barrels for a .22-06 as well, if you're doing long-range subcalibre shooting.

Short range? Isn't there a new high-speed .17 rimfire out now? I don't recall.

You should be able to find some fairly hairy chamberings in the 6m/m (.243), .25 calibre, or .22 calibre persuasion with a little looking.

0-200 yd's or so, i use either the rock river (entry tactical 16in) or a rem 700 varmint special in 222 rem. to stretch out alittle further. i use a somewhat accurized M1A 308. (that's the one i hunt big game with) i also have a browning bar in 300 WSM with the BOSS system that reaches out pretty good. any further than what i can do with those is usually missed do to operator error. (still learning) :D