mil grade coil overs on an xj

[coonassdevildog]

ok everyone here the thing i i am in the military and right now in the scrap metal bin at work there r alot of hummer sprngs laying around because they r putting the armor kits on our hummers so i was wondering if any body had tried it mite have an idea if it would even be workable without getting stupid on the fab part i figure they would be kinda stiff but i don't mind cause i ain't a crawler the moost i do wit my xj is go mess around in some of the mud around here i can get my hands on quiet a few of these spring i mite pick some up today i ain't sure yet so if some one has any ideas on the subject let me know please

[Littlewhitexj]

Disclaimer: I know NOTHING about Hummers or Coil overs

I would assume that the ride would be bone jarring stiff. Unless there is a way to make them softer, I would not do it.

[JasonCherokee]

Lets see a Hummer H1 weighs more than 10,000 lbs and your XJ weighs 3,500 lbs. You will have 0 deflection when you hit a bump and absolutely 0 flex.

[ponyracer1]

Not to metion, scrap or not there still US Goverment property and this might not be the best place to discus such things.....

[GI-John]

My head hurts after reading that.

Don't do it Marine.

[coonassdevildog]

ok i won't i was just curious if it would work i don't know much about suspensions and was just thinking about a cheep unique lift

[little red cheroke]

i personally dont want my tax dollars paying for your lift. but thats just me

[sp4mike]

i personally dont want my tax dollars paying for your lift. but thats just me

Who do you think pays military members salary?:patriot:

On that note, did you know that even if your in the military, you still pay taxes.

On to the springs, use them if you want, but the fab work to install the springs wouldnt be worth the effort. The springs from a HMMWV are way wider then stock XJ springs, not to mention I dont think they are any longer so they wouldnt even provide any lift.

[johnlv6]

Not to metion, scrap or not there still US Goverment property and this might not be the best place to discus such things.....

Yep....That stuff is supposed to go to DRMO...don't wind up in the brig over a set of very used springs.

[53guy]

Lol, I am in the Marines as well and I know exactally how DRMO runs are. I highly doubt that anyone would be upset if you used springs that are going to be just sitting in a pile collecting rust until some decides to move them again to another spot where they will just sit for another twenty years. 90% of DRMO runs end up in the trash anyhow, so what does it matter to you guys if the Marine picks through the trash? I'd rather see it being put to good use than be sitting around. I picked up a welder for free that had a NRFI tag on it and the onlything wrong was a blown diode. Complain all you want, but some people will never understand what happens inside the military and how we keep the USMC running because we swipe stuff off of a DRMO pile. I just call it over-time pay for the stuff I've found. Sorry if that hurts your feelings....

[coonassdevildog]

ya i know guys thanks for the advice it was just a thought anyhow to anyone that gotr a lil upset we me thinking about them springs realize i pay for all that stuff to and i even pay my own salary so its kinda like being self employed but working like an idiot everyone thanks for the advice and for the record i won't be doin it but if anyone wats to know where to get stuff legaly for the military i have the goverment drmo auctions website and will gladly give it to u cause they do auction some kmool stuff off on the like i could have baout like 6 pallets of hummer tires which come 8 to a pallet fopr like 50 bucks. but to the gentleman who said he wouldn't like the idea of paying for my lift i am sorry that i had such an idea but think of it this way when i do do buy a lift legal from a vendor u'll be helping me buy it anyway so to everyone that pays ur taxes thank u and thanks again to everyone who supports the war i will be goin over soon anyway so when i get bak my jeep will be lifted for sure ok thanx everyone

[53guy]

Common man, please just use a bit of grammer and punctuation. I know there is a spelling MCI out there. And by the way, don't feel bad about that DRMO crap; unless it has an ID tag on it, no one will miss it.

[coonassdevildog]

hey 53guy i like ur message if they only new how things stay moveing around here they would under stand as i am a mechanic by mos we scrounge all the time to keep our vehicles runnig so we can move and fight and yes drmo runs r kool i seen a jetski sitting in drmo not to long ago and i asked the guy about it he said uncle sam wants 200 bucks for it i am considering it he said he didn't know it it ran but i think it would be kool to work on but anyways that was besides the point but thanx again 53 guy

[coonassdevildog]

Sorry about the run ons but i thnk i missed the grammar 1. i am a mech so all i know is my tools lol i hate paper give me my toolbox and a jp-8 motor any day over paper work. lol thanx man i don't feel bad about it.

[53guy]

hey 53guy i like ur message if they only new how things stay moveing around here they would under stand as i am a mechanic by mos we scrounge all the time to keep our vehicles runnig so we can move and fight and yes drmo runs r kool i seen a jetski sitting in drmo not to long ago and i asked the guy about it he said uncle sam wants 200 bucks for it i am considering it he said he didn't know it it ran but i think it would be kool to work on but anyways that was besides the point but thanx again 53 guy



:wave:

[ladywolf]

Lol, I am in the Marines as well and I know exactally how DRMO runs are. I highly doubt that anyone would be upset if you used springs that are going to be just sitting in a pile collecting rust until some decides to move them again to another spot where they will just sit for another twenty years. 90% of DRMO runs end up in the trash anyhow, so what does it matter to you guys if the Marine picks through the trash? I'd rather see it being put to good use than be sitting around. I picked up a welder for free that had a NRFI tag on it and the onlything wrong was a blown diode. Complain all you want, but some people will never understand what happens inside the military and how we keep the USMC running because we swipe stuff off of a DRMO pile. I just call it over-time pay for the stuff I've found. Sorry if that hurts your feelings....


ditto with army crap. i dont know how much stuff we've found to use that other folks have thrown away. in my last unit thats how we got all our toolboxes and office furniture. other people would DRMO em, and we'd pick em up, refurbish, demolish, and rebuild using pieces parts. its an interesting prospect, but it saves having to wait for 6 months for stuff. DRMO is cool every once in awhile cuz you get cool stuff. i've had friends get winches, tires, you name it from DRMO.

[53guy]

Sorry about the run ons but i thnk i missed the grammar 1. i am a mech so all i know is my tools lol i hate paper give me my toolbox and a jp-8 motor any day over paper work. lol thanx man i don't feel bad about it.


No problems, I'm a 'Shitter Mech/Crew chief, so I understand too....I hate turboshafts!!

[53guy]

ditto with army crap. i dont know how much stuff we've found to use that other folks have thrown away. in my last unit thats how we got all our toolboxes and office furniture. other people would DRMO em, and we'd pick em up, refurbish, demolish, and rebuild using pieces parts. its an interesting prospect, but it saves having to wait for 6 months for stuff. DRMO is cool every once in awhile cuz you get cool stuff. i've had friends get winches, tires, you name it from DRMO.



Yeah!! SEE! At least there are three of us that understand how the military is run. All that political crap that takes months and year's to get the stupidest things can be left alone for all I care. We fix everything that we have by ourselves, screw S-4, those guys are worthless! Its funny to think that we use "trash" to make the presidents helicopters fly....hahaha!

[coonassdevildog]

u ain't the only one i have 2 types 1s a turbine to remeber everything on and it sucks. but on the kool side i personal get to look after 2 twin turbo diesel 12cyl motors i love them things. they make such a rachet when they run but its music to my ears

[ladywolf]

No problems, I'm a 'Shitter Mech/Crew chief, so I understand too....I hate turboshafts!!


i'm a hawk mech/crewchief.......and believe me i understand also....however our turboshafts are prolly a lil easier to remove than yours;)

and you wouldnt believe the stuff we come up with (or get the local machine shop to fab) to get into some of the nooks and crannys.


and i swear, the coolest tool ever is the SAFETY WIRE GUN

[coonassdevildog]

ya thanx for your input ladywolf i am glad to see other services have crappy ways of getting shit ordered hell s-4 has bee working on the ac in how snco offices for 2months now and still can't get it right its still broken not to mention try to get something fixed in the barracks we just assume do it our selves

[coonassdevildog]

i dunno ladywolf i'm a tank mech ours slide out quick how fast can u pull an engine and hell yes saftey wire is the greatest think ever we repaired a pallet jack today at owkr it some its awesome

[53guy]

we can get our QCU out and a new one in in under 3 hours. It's not that hard, just time consuming waiting on other shops to finish their work.

[jjvande]

it's amazing the stuff our gvt throws away...auctions... because it's too expensive to repair, recycle due to their own internal working costing too much.

[ladywolf]

i dunno ladywolf i'm a tank mech ours slide out quick how fast can u pull an engine and hell yes saftey wire is the greatest think ever we repaired a pallet jack today at owkr it some its awesome


on a good day providing the bird doesnt wanna be a bitch....i can get an engine pulled in about 45 minutes providing i have no hang ups and i'm not waiting on a hoist or for someone to quit using one of my tools.

putting it in takes a little more time because things will never line back up the way you want em to, and something is invariably gonna be stubborn.

[53guy]

it's amazing the stuff our gvt throws away...auctions... because it's too expensive to repair, recycle due to their own internal working costing too much.


Its all gay like that because of buerocratic BS and to keep people like i personally dont want my tax dollars paying for your lift. but thats just me

happy. I don't agree with the way things are done, but its the way it has to be done. The process is way way way too long.

[coonassdevildog]

53 i got u beet me and my guys can have a tank pack out in under 30 mintues and can do a a full service on it in 4 hours

[ladywolf]

53 i got u beet me and my guys can have a tank pack out in under 30 mintues and can do a a full service on it in 4 hours


yea but you dont have to wait on backshops. we do. aviation is a very finicky thing. people double and triple check your work.


plus you guys can be rougher on your stuff than we can on ours.

[coonassdevildog]

well ladywolf the only thing that slows us down is the crewman that actually run the vehicle they can be retarded alot of the times but they r good guys and 53 i agree i don't like the way shit is run but i guess its the way its got to run but o well

[coonassdevildog]

ya and we r alot rougher and thank good noone oes over our stuff other than us ourselves r another 1 of the guys and i am glad i'm not a winger cause of all the crazyness i have heard

[ladywolf]

well ladywolf the only thing that slows us down is the crewman that actually run the vehicle they can be retarded alot of the times but they r good guys and 53 i agree i don't like the way shit is run but i guess its the way its got to run but o well


you think crewman are bad? HA!!! try a belligerent Lieutenant who thinks he's gods gift to flying ;)






(just messing with you by the way, in case ya handnt noticed)

[coonassdevildog]

don't worry we get our fair share of the butter bars that swear they no everything about a tank and have been there a day and don't know wat the power pack lookls like

[53guy]

Dude! Swinging with the wing rocks! The airwing is the only place that you can work 19 hour days and show up to work the next morning and have accomplished absolutely nothing! I cant think of anything I'd rather do than turf down a canyon, shoot guns off the ramp, sling a 155mm below me, drop it off and then do a med-vac in the same day. We get a lot done, have nothing to show for it other than a bunch of pissed off liberals, a few scars and a bunch of flags draped over our buddies coffins, and then still find it ironically funny as we go home at the end of the day. I'd just hate to be a grunt. I love the USMC wing.

[ladywolf]

Dude! Swinging with the wing rocks! The airwing is the only place that you can work 19 hour days and show up to work the next morning and have accomplished absolutely nothing! I cant think of anything I'd rather do than turf down a canyon, shoot guns off the ramp, sling a 155mm below me, drop it off and then do a med-vac in the same day. We get a lot done, have nothing to show for it other than a bunch of pissed off liberals, a few scars and a bunch of flags draped over our buddies coffins, and then still find it ironically funny as we go home at the end of the day. I'd just hate to be a grunt. I love the USMC wing.


yep i feel the same way, cept we only get 240 hotels, and i'm in the designated medevac. i love the 20 hour work days to get an aircraft up, only to have some dumbass pilot break it first thing the next morning trying to be funny.

[coonassdevildog]

well tanks r cool we have have bmost awesome offroad recovery vehicle and a bridgeing vehicle i love them and the tank is kool ass hell shootin a 120mm round down range is awesome i think the wing wouldn't be bad unless u were a mech that could keep track of your tools

[53guy]

well tanks r cool we have have bmost awesome offroad recovery vehicle and a bridgeing vehicle i love them and the tank is kool ass hell shootin a 120mm round down range is awesome i think the wing wouldn't be bad unless u were a mech that could keep track of your tools


?? We can't go home unless we have all our tools accounted for and locked up in tool room....

[coonassdevildog]

ya i know thats wat i mean hell i work wit a guy therre ain't a day goes by that he doesn'tloose something only to find it nexttime he works on someting in that tank

[ladywolf]

?? We can't go home unless we have all our tools accounted for and locked up in tool room....


x infinity.

i sat at work for an extra 3 hours one day while they looked for a socket. damn privates and pockets on uniforms.

[53guy]

we tear all our pockets off so we don't have that problem.

[coonassdevildog]

come on they r perfect spots for wrenches and stuff especially my bak pocket adjustable wrench home lol

[ladywolf]

we tear all our pockets off so we don't have that problem.


i wanted to beat the lil s**t with a wrench.

[coonassdevildog]

so wat rank r u ladywolf and 53guy

[ladywolf]

so wat rank r u ladywolf and 53guy


i'm a SPC (equivalent to a cpl in the usmc)

[coonassdevildog]

kool ya i went to mos scholl at fort knox so i do know a few of the army ranks thats kool though

[ILLXJ]

Yeah!! SEE! At least there are three of us that understand how the military is run. Its funny to think that we use "trash" to make the presidents helicopters fly....hahaha!
You can make that 4. I was a light wheel/heavy wheel/track mechanic for years. JIM.

[little red cheroke]

ya i know guys thanks for the advice it was just a thought anyhow to anyone that gotr a lil upset we me thinking about them springs realize i pay for all that stuff to and i even pay my own salary so its kinda like being self employed but working like an idiot everyone thanks for the advice and for the record i won't be doin it but if anyone wats to know where to get stuff legaly for the military i have the goverment drmo auctions website and will gladly give it to u cause they do auction some kmool stuff off on the like i could have baout like 6 pallets of hummer tires which come 8 to a pallet fopr like 50 bucks. but to the gentleman who said he wouldn't like the idea of paying for my lift i am sorry that i had such an idea but think of it this way when i do do buy a lift legal from a vendor u'll be helping me buy it anyway so to everyone that pays ur taxes thank u and thanks again to everyone who supports the war i will be goin over soon anyway so when i get bak my jeep will be lifted for sure ok thanx everyone

sorry didnt cross my mind that they were being thrown away i thought they were new. my bad.

[53guy]

so wat rank r u ladywolf and 53guy


I'm an E-5 (USMC SGT) Where is Ft. Hood anyways?

[coonassdevildog]

ft hoods in texas if memory serves me right

[53guy]

No crap? I think if Ladywolf is at FT. Hood, there is a really big possibility that I've worked with her before. I'm at HMX-1 now, so I'm not working on 53's at the moment if you know what I mean.

[ladywolf]

No crap? I think if Ladywolf is at FT. Hood, there is a really big possibility that I've worked with her before. I'm at HMX-1 now, so I'm not working on 53's at the moment if you know what I mean.


i'm stationed at fort hood....happen to be stuck in iraq at the moment tho.

[coonassdevildog]

i'm a e-3 (usmc Lcpl)i am chillen here at lejeuen

[Michaelarchangelo]

I don't miss playing in the sandbox. Hats off to all the boys and girls over there.