Big Bear Dec

[paulhead]

Anyone up for a run around Dec 1, maybe camp out for the weekend? Don't want to put anything in stone, just trying to get a feel. Really bummed out about missing the JV run. I did'nt found out til today I could've taken time off from work but I'm to ill prepared just to take off, plus I have'nt put my front locker in yet either.

[rpraterxj]

Maybe the 8th? I have a Christmas party on the 1st.

What trails are you thinking of running? Alot of the forest is still closed due to the fires.

[paulhead]

Thinking white mountain, then Bull or Holcomb on sat. Ideally thinking camping out, I think Hanna Flats is open, not sure.

[rpraterxj]

Thinking white mountain, then Bull or Holcomb on sat. Ideally thinking camping out, I think Hanna Flats is open, not sure.

I am pretty sure Holcomb is Closed. Not sure about White Mtn. I know folks have been running John Bull.

[NikVallens]

Id definitely be up for it. :)

[Jump This]

I'll be up there on the 1st. but the plans call for work and no play...

:bawl:

[GrimmJeeper]

I'll be up there on the 1st. but the plans call for work and no play...

:bawl: party at ricks house!

[Russ Pottenger]

Maybe we can check what trails are open, and post as we find out.
Lets keep this post open and keep the discussion going as to the dates.

[paulhead]

Maybe we can check what trails are open, and post as we find out.
Lets keep this post open and keep the discussion going as to the dates.
good deal

[Jump This]

party at ricks house!

I'm up for that!!

:cheers:

[paulhead]

Well I'm up for Dec 1 but besides that I'm working

[1xfloppy]

i have some guys that will run john bull and gold mountain, as far as i know holcomb creek is closed

[FishPOET]

Fire Closures:

Butler 2 Fire - Road, Trail and Recreational Facility Closures.
Butler Peak Lookout
Grays Peak Trail
Hanna Flat Trail
Hanna Flat Campground
Big Pine Flat Campground
Grays Peak Group Campground
Ironwood Group Campground
Big Pine Flat Group Campground
Little Bear Springs Trail Camp
2N06X
2N13 Snowslide and spur roads / Trails
3N11
3N14 and spur roads / Trails - Closed from Fawnskin to 3N16, Access to Horse Springs / Shay Mountain area is via Bowen Ranch Road, or High Road via Lucerne Valley or 3N16.
3N93 Holcomb Creek
Pacific Crest Trail - Big Bear Area- The PCT will remain closed from the 3N16/Holcomb Creek crossing on the west side (approx. 2 miles northeast of Crab Flats), to 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.) . Little Bear Springs trail camp is closed to public use, due to Butler 2 Fire.A PCT trail reroute is being developed.Grass Valley Fire - Road Closures
2N34 from Junction of 2N37 to Forest boundary.
2N34A from Forest boundary to 2N34.Slide Fire - Road, Trail and Recreational Facility Closures
2W07 from 3N34 Junction to Fisherman’s Campground.
Fredalba Trail from Forest boundary
2N19 (including spurs 2N19A, 2N19B, and 2N19C) from intersection with Green Valley Lake Road near Camp Cedar Crest to Meadow Lane near the Green Valley Campground.
2N16 from the Green Valley Campground to its terminus.
2N13 from Green Valley Campground to Fawnskin (3N14) (overlap Butler 2 closure)
2N13D from intersection with 2N13 to Crafts Peak.
2N33Y from 3N16 to Tent Peg Group Camp.
3N34B from 3N16 to its terminus.
Green Valley Campground and the roads within the campground.
Fisherman’s Group Campground.
Tent Peg Group Campground.Seasonal Closures:

Everything on the South side of Big Bear Lake: 1N19, 1N19A, 2N06, 2N08, 2N10, 2N10B, 2N10D, 2N10F, 2N11, 2N11A, 2N11B, 2N17, 2N17X, 2N27, 2N42, 2N42A, 2N42B, 2N42Y, 2N44. 2N44Y, 2N48, 2N48Y, 2N51Y, 2N53Y, 2N54, 2N82Y, 2N85, 2N85A, 2N86, 2N86B, 2N93, 2N93B, 2N93D, 2N93E, 2N93G

Everything near Heart Bar: 1N02, 1N05, 1N05A, 1N05B, 1N30, 1N30A, 1N30B, 1N37, 1N37A, 1N39, 2N93

2N13

[paulhead]

Got a little thing going (gld mtn & JBull) sat with some MJR dudes.
8-9am at the Fawnskin firestation ch4

[s7tech]

hope I get another xj by then

[lamula]

Is the BB run a sure thing for Sat?
How many rigs do you expect at this time?

[paulhead]

4 or 5 sound pretty sure

[mattyj]

Paul, if you are staying up there Sat night, i may be up Sunday for the day. I have to work Sat, so no go for me then.
I should have a definate answer by tomorrow afternoon.

[paulhead]

so far only going for sat

[paulhead]

18 closed, just saw this. So I'm going up the 38 off Lugonia/Mentone , take the scenic route

http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result.php?q1=redlands+ca

[Kejtar]

18 closed, just saw this. So I'm going up the 38 off Lugonia/Mentone , take the scenic route

http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result.php?q1=redlands+ca
mudslide repairs? eeek... hate that sticky stuff.... have fun guys :D

[Jump This]

18 closed, just saw this. So I'm going up the 38 off Lugonia/Mentone , take the scenic route

http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result.php?q1=redlands+ca


38 is a MUCH nicer drive anyway!

[paulhead]

So made it up there (via the 38) , nothing said about chains until I hit a nice ice patch, got sideways, stopped, then noticed a bunch of 2wd cars sprawled accross the road to include some sort of SUV over the side. A small pick up that somehow threw his bead. So I pulled over and aired down to get better traction and just creeped the rest of the way til I got to Fawnskin, seeing plenty of casualties along the way. So long story short 3 jeeps, open difs, snow, no Bull. Made it to the top of Gold Mountain, past the rock garden, which was a blast in the snow (started blizzarding toward the top) then came upon a huge tree that had fallen accross the road. Was friggin' cold, no way around the tree especially without lockers. No one had a winch which may have been able to pull it to the side. So we turned around and made our way back. Still had a good time, I love it when it snows up there.

[GrimmJeeper]

sounds like fun paul, any pics of the trip? that tree has been there since just before socal fest last may. there is a way around it but its tough to make the turns and i wouldnt want to do it in the snow not knowing whats underneath it lol. sounds like you had a good time tho!

[paulhead]

I got a little bit of vid I'll try to get up.

[paulhead]

Here some pics I stole from the "other" site.
http://jeep.matandtiff.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dsc05353.jpg

Rock Garden
http://jeep.matandtiff.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dsc05367.jpg
http://jeep.matandtiff.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dsc05379.jpg
http://jeep.matandtiff.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dsc05388.jpg

BIG FRIGGIN' TREE:
http://jeep.matandtiff.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dsc05398.jpg

Beautiful View:
http://jeep.matandtiff.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dsc05418.jpg

Trail Damage (too much flex?):
http://jeep.matandtiff.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dsc05408.jpg

[GrimmJeeper]

thats not the tree that was there last time i was up there haha. nice pics.

[rpraterxj]

Awesome! Nice pics as well. Nothing like wheelin while it's snowing...

So what's the story with the TJ's spring coming out of the bucket? Too much flex and no retainer clip?

[paulhead]

Awesome! Nice pics as well. Nothing like wheelin while it's snowing...

So what's the story with the TJ's spring coming out of the bucket? Too much flex and no retainer clip?
yeah, we got him to droop and used a crowbar to pop it back in.

[Mr. Pickle]

So are you guys still down for the 8th? I would really like to go so please let me know.

[etaniyani]

nice pics paul, I bet one of my winches would have been handy that day huh :-) I'll put a post in the for sale forum, see whos interested. I love snow wheeling, check out our last year mammoth.

huge snow drift across the road on the way up to laurel lakes.

http://i5.tinypic.com/6l9cf14.jpg

[paulhead]

well that tree on gold mountain was taken care of

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u172/jmcrae94yj/3N69TreeR2.jpg

[xL8 APEKSx]

Kind of OT, but I have a cabin in Green Valley Lake and I'm planning to head up there the weekend of Jan 4-6 (Fri-Sun). One day was going to be devoted to wheeling, and another to trying to learn how to snowboard. HA!

If anyone wants to tag along, you're more than welcome! The cabin is very small, but it can accomodate maybe 5 in beds (2, 2, and 1) plus a couple on the floor by the fireplace. Just shoot me a message and let me know! This is contingent upon me installing my new lift stuff before then, so expect an "install party" post from me in the very near future! :)