errr - 2

[CommandoXJ96]

I don't know if anyone remembers the like 10 page thread I accidentally started about my mom many many months ago called "errrr...." (or something of the like) that became a political discussion - but I gotta vent. So this is part 2 of my mom making things way worse then they should be. I'm pretty freaking confused at the moment in fact. One of my close friends is going off to college very soon - 11 days from now. Shes into wheeling and she wanted to do some wheeling before she left to California for college. I talked to my mom about going on wednesday (past wednesday). I asked her about it on tuesday and she was cool with it. I told her when and where... Then I reminded her before I went to work (short shift in the morning) where I would be and I wasnt sure if I would see her untill after i went wheeling with my friend.

So I get off work, get the car ready, pick up another friend of mine who lives close by and go to meet my friend at the gas station closest to our wheeling place (redington pass for anyone familiar with it). We had originally planned to meet at 3 and take off. I had called her at about 2 to tell her id be running 15 minutes later then that. No big deal. She calls me around 3:20 telling me shes running late and will be even later. So around 4:15 we make our way up to redington pass. The first 3 miles for the most part is just going up zig-zags- up hill. I come around a turn and I notice shes disappeared. I wait for a few seconds in Park to see if she just got slowed down. Nope. I do a turn around and shes sitting on the hill in her truck. The 89 toyotas ATF had overheated - according to the dash. Also according to the dash the engine temp is running perfect tho. (she tells me later this guage doesnt even work). We wait a few minutes and turn her truck back on and the light doesnt come back on - so we continue up the road.
So fast forward an hour or so... I discover she doesnt know when to use 4lo as im spotting her on a rocky descent (backside of chimney rock for those familiar - if theres any here besides Fergie). On top of that - the 4lo wont even engage! Shes upset (wasnt sure at the time if it was with me or what) b/c she wasnt enjoying this descent - it was really washed out since the last time she did it. Nothing eventful happens untill later when we're on our way out and we're trying to get back up this hill. Shes pretty pissed at this point... I see her truck start rolling backwards for a good part of the ascent and I start freaking out in my jeep. I moved my jeep to a place I felt comfortable stopping - to get out and see whats up. But then she seems to get up the rocks just fine - so I keep moving forward - thinking shes engaged low at this point at the very least. (no - i guess i shouldnt have assumed). As soon as she gets up the rocks that she had backed down before she honks her horn and stops. Her trucks overheated. Its been in Drive and 4Hi the whole time - A/T fluid and Coolant have lights on. The coolant guage needle still reads in the center. She tells me she doesnt think it works... Great. Broken truck - with no warning for next time it will do this. We let it kul off for a while and b/c shes no longer in any mood to even drive on rocks i strap her and pull her the rest of the way up (but we did get the truck into 4lo finally... yay). She tells me its the last time she will be going offroading for a long time in the desert. Well don't I feel like a royal ass. So we take it slow the whole way out - I stop anytime I cant her truck to let her catch up - I don't think anyone wanted the toyota to overheat again.
By the time my cell phone has reception again its dark - its 7:40 - not long after sunset. I have 10 voicemails.

Apparently my mother forgot where i was going, when i was going... etc... And called (in her words) "every child and parent you ever met". That turns out to be practically true. Shes pissed, I'm pissed, gabys pissed, my friend who rode shotgun is just kinda like... whatever, i had fun today. So I get close to home and I'm hungry - so is my friend who rode with me. My toyota driving friend went straight home - she knew her mom would be pissed at her. I call my mom to ask if it was ok if i picked up some food and she just told me to stay out as long as I could b/c she doesnt wanna see me right now.

So me and my friend who doesnt hate me have some pizza and stay out for another hour. I drop her off and get home and my mom wont even talk to me. Me and my mom havent got to discuss it since either cuz "she'll ground me if she thinks about it too much again". Which makes no sense to me at all. I talk to some of my friends - and they all recieved calls from my mom; some of them were worried. My mom called my toyota driving friends mom too. Great. Everyones been called. I dont talk to my friend all thursday. Friday night I meet my friends for bowling and shes there. Somethings not right... I ask her how her day was that kinda stuff; no remarkable answers. Then i just ask whats wrong. 'my mom found out about stuff... and she doesnt want me talking to you'.

Thrown off, and wanting to leave the bowling ally now... Well crap. I didnt even drive my own car there. So I spent the next 3 hours within feet of her and we dont talk.

So I'm looking on the offroading forums i visit today... and theres a trip for tommorow and i find her post under it readin this

thanks to a certain someone, i wont be able to go wheeling at all til i move. fun times...not.

so shes not talking to me, and her mom hates me, and shes moving in a week basically. I'm not even quite sure what I did wrong - I didnt make her go offroading. I didnt build her truck, and I certianly didnt ask my mom to go crazy. My only guess is that my moms overreaction got her mom pissed off too and shes not allowed to go wheeling.

then another friend of mine qoutes the above post from her and puts this under it

Aww ;name; ...I know who you're talking about... Jump in with someone!!! I want to wheel with you one last time before you move.

So now I'm the worlds biggest asshole as it seems to all my friends, everyone thought I died/sunk my jeep in water b/c of my mom, and in my eyes - I didnt do anything to deserve all the blame for the wheeling trip running late (and my mom couldnt have just forgot about my plans like that.) i guess its also my fualt a Toyota truck overheated in the desert. this is driving me nuts. if i went wheelin with the guys like i usually do - even if they got pissed (for a real reason) they'd have forgoten by now. does this make sense to everyone else?

[CanMan]

Damn, thats a lot to read.

[Ramsey]

How old are you? Under 18, tough you have to put up with that. Over 18, still living at home, tough you have to put up with that. It'll work out, in the meantime, try whining a little more :D

[JeeperG]

Damn, thats a lot to read.
X2 fill us all in :D I remember a cellphone, mom, bowling and something I think related to wheeling?

[scoobyxj]

You should thank her for getting you grounded for being late. Because she decided it would be cool to go wheeling in a truck with nonworking gauges, broken transfer case, and a subpar cooling system.

[RichP]

Women hold chit like they are savings bonds...then pull them out as needed. Sounds like all the females over reacted but thats nothing new, they all do it, it's the dramatics that seem so popular now a days.
Your friend probably got her pride spanked by her mom and you end up the villan for a while.
I don't hear a dad mentioned so that tells me that your mom has alot on her plate every day.
When I grew up I had two grandmothers, my dads who had only ever delt with boys [no girls on that side of the family] and my moms who had never delt with boys [12 girls on that side]. I didn't understand it back then but now looking back 40 years later it's all pretty clear. I had a red ryder bb gun, it went with me everywhere. My dads moms attitude when I would setup stuff to shoot at in the yard 'here's some more cans for you to shoot, leave the squirrels and birds alone'', my moms side 'OH GOD, don't shoot your eye out', 'they are so dangerous', 'your liable to hurt somebody' ad nauseum... however she did teach me how to sew but I drew the line at makeup.
Do we have any magic answers here, nope, not from me anyway. Sounds like a communications problem compounded by other issues, you gotta step back and figure out what really happened cause you are like most guys dealing with females and spend alot of time trying to figure out WTF happened...
Dealing with guys it's mostly a matter of A+b=c, with females it's more like quantum mechanics A+b *might* =C but it could also =pineapples.
I found a abandoned kitten once and asked a female friend if she wanted it, she said yes and was all excited, somehow she equated it to 'he wants me to be the mother of his children' that was one of those WTF was that all about things...

[ECKSJAY]

So, is your Mom hot?

[woody]

So, is your Mom hot?

LOL :viking: that's what I was wondering too

[LBEXJ]

Kid ... enjoy being the villian in all this. Why do you want to be the "good guy"? Hell, everyone needs to has someone to blame, and it might just as well be you. There are a lot of gals out there that like a bad boy to help lead them astray.

Ditto ... is your Momma Hot? ;)

Les

[ECKSJAY]

Pics of Mom or ban.

:twak:

[Gil BullyKatz]

cliff notes of first post?

[ECKSJAY]

cliff notes of first post?

Ahem...here it goes:

:rattle:

[OT]

cliff notes of first post?
http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=88

[Gil BullyKatz]

http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=88


"Ask nicely..."

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[Beej]

If indeed everything happened exactly as you explained it, then:

1. Your mom's an ass. Learn from this and next time leave a written itinerary for her and email it to her and an independent third party as a backup. If you weren't as clear with her as you said you were, start being clearer. I know my son is never as clear explaining his plans in advance as he is after the fact when he's screwed up and is in trouble. All you need to do is explain your plans to another person that you think she's bound to call.

2. Your friend's an ass. Explain to her how you got ego-spanked as a result of the ordeal. If she never talks to you again, big deal. At least you got out of the relationship before she really had a chance to mess with your head. At the same time, learn from this and don't go wheeling anywhere even remotely difficult with a person whose driving you aren't familiar with.

3. Your buddy who had fun with you is the real thing. Keep hanging out with that guy and get him some beer for sticking by you.

[CommandoXJ96]

well thank you richp and beej.... ya it was pretty whiney for me to write that all (i tend to get like that at 2 AM when no one will talk to me cuz GIRLS have all talked and decided im the devil). I'm just gonna stick with wheeling with the guys and a select few friends who are girls from now on. I thought I did know this girls driving ability/comfort zone. My dads involvement in all of this was that the past few days has been hes working when I'm not and vice versa - so I didnt get to talk to him about the wheeling plans. he wasnt sure who to believe in the mother-son arguement; so he pretty much said nothing and stood (physically) next to my mom while the yelling occured.

Leaving a written itenerary sounds like a good idea - its actually what my dad asked me to do for next time so one gets confused and declares a state of emergency. As far as never speaking to the friend again - thats likely. Last time she got mad at me there were 2 months were she would not speak to me. Then it abruptly ended. Shes moving in less then 2 weeks - let alone 2 months, so I don't think I should stress about it too much. If anyones gonna regret it - it can be and will be her.


Cliff Notes for above:
NO my mom is NOT hot.

[Ramsey]

If indeed everything happened exactly as you explained it, then:


If you believe that, i've lost all faith.



Your not allowed to judge if your own mom is hot, we need pictures to decide this.

[CommandoXJ96]

Ok... i believe thats exactly what happened - and cannot understand why its resulted as such. you're right - I can't judge if my moms hot or not. but I don't have a digital camera nor the motivation to allow NAXJA to judge my moms "hotness".

[Ramsey]

and I use to think you were cool

[jpars]

Im 18 and man, this is not your moms fault this is your fault for being such a bitch and letting your mom act like that.

You gotta fight the power man.

If you told her you were going somewhere, you went there, you called her after, she freaks out for no reason, i would laugh.


she is pwning your shitz0r

You know when i really started having a good time in high school? When i stopped giving a ****.

[Ramsey]

Im 18 and man, this is not your moms fault this is your fault for being such a bitch and letting your mom act like that.

You gotta fight the power man.

If you told her you were going somewhere, you went there, you called her after, she freaks out for no reason, i would laugh.


she is pwning your shitz0r

You know when i really started having a good time in high school? When i stopped giving a ****.
I bet you make her proud. Letting her act that way? Wtf is wrong with you? I have no respect for people that dont respect their own mother.

[jpars]

Not about not respecting them- its about not letting them 1000% run your life. I have a few friends that sat in their basements for 4 years because they never got the balls to say that no, this time, they were staying out until midnight. And its pathetic.

Its about compromises, if this was happening to me i would have flipped out and started yelling at people. And yeah, if my mom knew exactly where i was with days of planning and called everyone when i didnt call her on the nose at an exact time, I would freak out.

[jpars]

and explain to me how the girl is in trouble? im failing to grasp that part of the story......

did she not tell her parents she was going to go wheeling?
is she not supposed to go wheeling?

why would she not be able to talk to you.

it all just doesnt add up to me.

[CommandoXJ96]

it doesnt add up to me either. she told her mom she was going wheeling too - and her mom was kul with it too... Her moms pissed at me too for some reason - it makes no sense to me at all why though. And I do try to respect my mom. She makes no sense to me most of the time but shes still my mom after all. Well I'm glad none of this makes sense to you guys to either - at least I know I'm not the ones whose crazy.

[Beej]

Im 18 and man, this is not your moms fault this is your fault for being such a bitch and letting your mom act like that.

You gotta fight the power man.

If you told her you were going somewhere, you went there, you called her after, she freaks out for no reason, i would laugh.


she is pwning your shitz0r

You know when i really started having a good time in high school? When i stopped giving a ****. I would literally plant my foot up my son's ass if he followed your advice...

A man needs to carve his lot in life and stand by it. Respect everyone until they lose your respect. Treat others exactly as you wish to be treated no matter who they are or what they've done. Put yourself in another's shoes before you judge them...

[Ramsey]

Careful, craziness is genetic. Both my parents are nuts, and sadly I'm right there with them.

[CommandoXJ96]

Careful, craziness is genetic. Both my parents are nuts, and sadly I'm right there with them.


well thats not good.

[shortxjdoug]

Im 18 and man, this is not your moms fault this is your fault for being such a bitch and letting your mom act like that.

You gotta fight the power man.

If you told her you were going somewhere, you went there, you called her after, she freaks out for no reason, i would laugh.


she is pwning your shitz0r

You know when i really started having a good time in high school? When i stopped giving a ****.


i went through high school being the envy of all because me and my mom had a respect for each other..... by not being in idiot kid she trusted me and allowed me a freedom that not many teenagers i know could dream of, when she asked what i was doing i was totally straight with her and never had to lie, and still had "fun" doing things and being places that some parents would flip about, and in turn whenever she really needed me to do something there was never any complaining..... not giving a shit now or then may work for the short term "fun" but down the road one day when you wish mom was there you may regret it

[jpars]

ok i could have used more discretion when wording my comment. me and my parents are on extremely good terms- and i have deep respect for them. but there did come a point where i started to push boundaries. i am very reasonable and had no problem admitting when i f***ed up, however i was also not as stupid as many kids. never drank and drive, never vandalized, etc. I think that if you asked my mom if me pushing the boundaries gradually was a good thing she would agree to. Because in actuality it just furthered the "respect" by allowing me more freedom- granted i continue to be smart.
if that makes sense


it doesnt add up to me either. she told her mom she was going wheeling too - and her mom was kul with it too... Her moms pissed at me too for some reason - it makes no sense to me at all why though. And I do try to respect my mom. She makes no sense to me most of the time but shes still my mom after all. Well I'm glad none of this makes sense to you guys to either - at least I know I'm not the ones whose crazy.

maybe its just that im the same age as you but, i dont get it. not like "its unfair i dont get it", like, i actually mentally do not understand.

so you told them you were going wheeling and went
what is the problem?
especially with the girl. is she just pissed because she cant wheel for crap and needs to learn some auto maintenece or what?

like im failing to comprehend why there is conflict, or even what the conflict is...?

[shortxjdoug]

i fail to see why this toyota girl not talking to you is such a big deal, sounds like it wasn't all happy and good before so why do you care? Stick with the friends who stick with you and screw the rest, really worked out well for me :D

[Ramsey]

i fail to see why this toyota girl not talking to you is such a big deal, sounds like it wasn't all happy and good before so why do you care? Stick with the friends who stick with you and screw the rest, really worked out well for me :D
good advice, but hes just trying to get his fingers wet:D

[jml1911a1]

Dear CommandoXJ98:

Chicks are not men with less hair, weird plumbing, interesting curvature, and softer, smoother fun parts.

They are a different species.

Let's say there's a problem: You, a man, say, "How can we fix this?" A woman says, "This is really inconvenient. Who can I convey my distaste of the situation to?"

Women feel. Their view of the world is filtered through emotion. This is not an absolute, as anecdotal evidence will surely show.

Men think. They use logic and reason to solve problems and evalute situations. This, too, is not an absolute, but is largely true.

Good luck. How old are you? I can understand the inconvenience of your mother being a naggy psycho, but if you're living in her house, you're kindof up the proverbial creek, aren't you? Female peers, on the other hand, can be dealt with in other ways. A good, firm, "OK, you're being a pain in the butt. Go away, and come back when you can be pleasant and reasonable." This may likely get you a loud tirade, at which time you simply walk away or ignore her, or just calmly ask her if she needs a firm spanking, as she's acting like a spoiled five-year old just denied candy.


Educational links, not politically correct:

http://www.themenscenter.com/busterb/index.htm

http://www.john-ross.net/advice.htm

http://www.john-ross.net/abby.htm

http://www.voxday.net/archive/2004/041904.html

http://www.voxday.net/archive/2004/020904.html

That's a good start. I've learned more about the opposite sex from those sites than anything else.

Bottom line: Don't take their crap. It's not easy, but it works. (I'm referring to your peers, not your mother. Respect your mother, though perhaps you must respect her from your own place somewhere, with Caller ID and a handy peep-hole in the door.)

(OK, bring on the "I'm offended by that misogynistic comment!" and the "How dare you say that women are different than men!" responses...)

[CanMan]

So, is your Mom hot?

Well put DR. Phil.

THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PIX OF YOUR MOM, SO WE CAN DETERMINE IF SHE IS A MILF OR NOT. :D

[CommandoXJ96]

shortxjdoug - i think you have a good point. Ramsey... funny , but not accurate to my situation. lol. well... im fine with not talking to my friend; if thats all i gotta do to piss her off (well... nothing really) then thats about what the friendship is worth to me too - nothing. i think its bs. I'm not so much mad at my mother anymore - nor am I gonna argue with her about anything - becuase even my mother has let this thing go already. Thats hard for her to do; and my friends still pissy. That ain't right and now that I think about it... I shouldnt be talking to my friend the ways shes been acting - not the other way around.

[CommandoXJ96]

all my friends agree - my mother is NOT a milf. just Google search the term damnit.

[Ramsey]

So this female was just a friend? How the hell can you be friends with a woman, and not try anythign, unless she was just absolutely hideous.

[Matthew Currie]

I think Beej has it about right, but I also suspect that there's been trouble brewing of one sort or another for a long time, and if you want the trouble to end, you need to find ways of dealing with your mom that do not make it worse. Of course if you're really at fault, you'll know it, and I won't, but let's assume for the moment you're not really some kind of ireesponsible parent-baiting punk. It sounds more as if your mother is a bith quick on the trigger, and perhaps overly concerned. You need to make sure that she understands what you're doing, and you need to give her some reason to trust that you're not going to get into trouble. Dumping the ditzy toyota girl is probably a good first step.

So: if she forgot or did not understand what you were planning to do, then either you did not explain it adequately or she did not understand what should have been an adequate explanation. If the first, make sure you explain better. Don't just say, hey I'm gonna go wheelin with a friend, unless you're entirely sure that she understands that this means, hey, I plan to go off roading with a friend in the woods, and I might get stuck, don't worry, but I might be late, etc. etc. out of cell phone range, so don't expect me back before.....etc etc. but don't worry, we're prepared. And then make sure you really are prepared.

If the communication problem is hers, as I suspect it might be, because she sounds kind of ...dramatic....then leave a note. A prominent, well articulated note at an agreed upon place, which she cannot say she did not understand. Time out, time back, approximately where going, with whom, etc. etc. ad nauseam.

[CommandoXJ96]

leave a note.

i talked with my Dad a couple hours ago about going up on Tuesday (with just my guy friends) and I wrote a note for them just in case. and yeah - i had a crush on this girl like way back in last October, but its been a thing of the past for me for a while - a long while.

[UNCC_99XJ]

Im 18 and man, this is not your moms fault this is your fault for being such a bitch and letting your mom act like that.

You gotta fight the power man.

If you told her you were going somewhere, you went there, you called her after, she freaks out for no reason, i would laugh.


she is pwning your shitz0r

You know when i really started having a good time in high school? When i stopped giving a ****.

Interesting theory. I'm also 18 and have a theory exactly opposite of yours. Yeah my mom can be a royal pain in the ass, and we do get into our arguements, but they're all like that. And someday....some very distant day, you'll thank her. Trust me, i've thought about some of the stuff my mom has said over the years that I at first thought "ahhh she's full of it" and now I think, ya know, she was right.

So when you say that she was "pwning his shitz0r" in reality she was really being a mom. You just gotta get used to the mother instinct...they're always gonna worry, even when you move out. And as long as you're under her roof you go by her rules.

You know when I really started having a good time in high school, when the girls would come up to me and say they think it's really cool that I'm very mature for my age....alot of people i've met over the years have said that.

You may be "cool" now cause you're a "bad ass", but like shortxjdoug, I too get alot of respect from my friends for the way I treat my mom....both my parents for that matter. Yeah you may call me stupid or an ass or whatever other word pops into your head, but i've got nothing but respect for the people who brought me into this world and taught me what I know.

[CanMan]

You gotta fight the power man.



Like so? :dunno:

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/137/137301/folders/239718/1932168proveyourright.gif

[CommandoXJ96]

12guage... i know you're trying to make a point about jpars.. but thats just sick shit right there. i guess you proved your point then.

[jpars]

Interesting theory. I'm also 18 and have a theory exactly opposite of yours. Yeah my mom can be a royal pain in the ass, and we do get into our arguements, but they're all like that. And someday....some very distant day, you'll thank her. Trust me, i've thought about some of the stuff my mom has said over the years that I at first thought "ahhh she's full of it" and now I think, ya know, she was right.

So when you say that she was "pwning his shitz0r" in reality she was really being a mom. You just gotta get used to the mother instinct...they're always gonna worry, even when you move out. And as long as you're under her roof you go by her rules.

You know when I really started having a good time in high school, when the girls would come up to me and say they think it's really cool that I'm very mature for my age....alot of people i've met over the years have said that.

You may be "cool" now cause you're a "bad ass", but like shortxjdoug, I too get alot of respect from my friends for the way I treat my mom....both my parents for that matter. Yeah you may call me stupid or an ass or whatever other word pops into your head, but i've got nothing but respect for the people who brought me into this world and taught me what I know.


dude great but
maybe you didnt read what else i said. and i was not meaning to sound like burning the house down or something. but you have to stick up for yourself a little (if you didnt know, at 18, your an adult now bud). and to go on a day trip planned for a long time and be what like an hour or two behind, and to have that freakout, is insane.

i dont care who your parents are or what your relationship to them is, thats insane.

explain to me how your old enough to take an automatic rifle in your hand 6000 miles away and fight in a war but cant handle to go wheeling for a day?
in my opinion, you DO need to stick up for yourself in that situation.
and you can fight the power respectfully. it doesnt have to be cursing and yelling.

[jpars]

Like so? :dunno:

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/137/137301/folders/239718/1932168proveyourright.gif


no, not like so.

like sitting her down and suggesting that you giving her the respect of more then fair notice and planning should warrant you respect of a little space.

[CommandoXJ96]

well i can understand discussing with parents like... say... how things could have gone differently and resulted no worse - possibly ya know; better. maybe 'fight the power man' just sounded like - ya know - not discussing things - but yelling and cursing to the rest of the members. (which i can see very well)

[jpars]

well i can understand discussing with parents like... say... how things could have gone differently and resulted no worse - possibly ya know; better. maybe 'fight the power man' just sounded like - ya know - not discussing things - but yelling and cursing to the rest of the members. (which i can see very well)

yeah could have worded it better but in essense i probably would have had a big WTF on my face if this happened to me.

but it wouldnt, which is why i dont get it. if i told my mom "mom, im going wheeling for the day" she would assume, that, well, i was going wheeling for the day.

so.......

[CommandoXJ96]

if i told my mom "mom, im going wheeling for the day" she would assume, that, well, i was going wheeling for the day.

so.......

hahaha, one of my friends said those same words to me.

[Nienkysman]

Be Respectful of your Parents - This reminds me of a story that is in the process of unfolding right now.... My Son has not been real respectful to His Mother the last few years , There has been very little I could do . They live in WA. State and I live in MS. (about 2500 mi diffrence) Well a few days ago His Momma fell ill and it dont look too good for her , She maybe in the Hospital for a few months , But the Doctors are not sure of a good recovery, So now he will (after visiting with his Papa a few days) Be comming to live with me and Hopefully compleating his last year of school He is 17 . He may NOT have the chance to make ammends for treating her the way he did, and I can tell in his voice when I talk to Him that He regrets it , .... Well I dont want to talk about it too much , But Treat People they way you want to be treated and you wont have any regrets Hopefully !!

[LBEXJ]

Why is it, that when a child turns 18 years old, and "legally become adults", they assume their parents should automatically not worry? Guess what ... bad things happen to people of all ages. I'm over 50, and my mother still worries about me. As she has explained ... "You'll forever be my son."

Guys ... one day this will make more sense to you, but keep in mind that the older you get, the more you're likley to have on your mind. The mother, in this case, may have "heard", but had other things on her mind and simply forgotten.

Rather than piss and moan about how you are not being treated fairly, just understand she reacted the way she did because she loves you. That's a lot more than the "female friend" has to offer in this scenario.

All you young guys out there ... if your Mom over-reacts like this, just go up and hug her and say "Thanks for worrying about me Mom", and leave it at that.

There's no power struggle or malice here ...

Les

[Ramsey]

I always figured you for a mommas boy :laugh3:

[Rev Den]

Is Toyota girl hot?

:D

Rev

BTW: Les is 100% spot on.

[UNCC_99XJ]

dude great but
maybe you didnt read what else i said. and i was not meaning to sound like burning the house down or something. but you have to stick up for yourself a little (if you didnt know, at 18, your an adult now bud). and to go on a day trip planned for a long time and be what like an hour or two behind, and to have that freakout, is insane.

i dont care who your parents are or what your relationship to them is, thats insane.

explain to me how your old enough to take an automatic rifle in your hand 6000 miles away and fight in a war but cant handle to go wheeling for a day?
in my opinion, you DO need to stick up for yourself in that situation.
and you can fight the power respectfully. it doesnt have to be cursing and yelling.

I understand that you'd need to defend your point and explain to her what happened, and i'm well aware that your a legal adult when you're 18 BUD. But still, mother's instinct is always going to worry...no matter how old you are, and if you're still under HER roof, you go by HER rules. In your orig. post you came off as this bad ass kid who did nothing but disrespect his mom like an asshat, thats why I said what i did.

[Matthew Currie]

yeah could have worded it better but in essense i probably would have had a big WTF on my face if this happened to me.

but it wouldnt, which is why i dont get it. if i told my mom "mom, im going wheeling for the day" she would assume, that, well, i was going wheeling for the day.

so.......

But presumably when you say that, you have some precedent to work with. I.e. she knows more or less what is meant by the term, what your risks and expectations are, and perhaps, we hope at least, you have established some kind of history of trust and responsibility whereby she can assume that when you go wheeling for the day you will be somewhat prepared, not get into trouble, come home in one piece, etc. It also seems likely that your mom has some wish to undertstand what you're up to, and is not looking for an opportunity to start something dramatic. If Commando and his mom do not have that initial understanding, that brief statement is not going to be sufficient.

I am assuming here, of course, that your mom's calm response is not just because she's hoping you fall into a crevasse and disappear! :D

[CommandoXJ96]

we've had an understanding in the past and this has never happened before. I understand her worrying; I just don't understand the state of emergency having to be declared the way it was. For me this wasn't even so much about my mom - I've kinda accepted the way shes gonna be, and I've delt with it. Me and my mom are kul at this point. Its the friend that I don't quite understand.

[jeepinxj01]

So this female was just a friend? How the hell can you be friends with a woman, and not try anythign, unless she was just absolutely hideous.


Is there another reason to be friends w/ a chick?

If she was actually good lookin' then you should have been tryin' to get your fingers stinky. And if she was good lookin' and you didn't have intentions of gettin' some stank finger then you're either a liar or something else is wrong. I'm not buyin' the story that you had a crush long ago. That was an unaccomplished mission that you were just layin' low for.

Dude.....post pics of your mom. Please.

[CommandoXJ96]

Is there another reason to be friends w/ a chick?

If she was actually good lookin' then you should have been tryin' to get your fingers stinky. And if she was good lookin' and you didn't have intentions of gettin' some stank finger then you're either a liar or something else is wrong. I'm not buyin' the story that you had a crush long ago. That was an unaccomplished mission that you were just layin' low for.

Dude.....post pics of your mom. Please.

It seems maturity only comes in black and white - not shades of grey on this forum. I know im the dumbass kid who started this thread but seriously...

[westsacxj]

It seems maturity only comes in black and white - not shades of grey on this forum. I know im the dumbass kid who started this thread but seriously...

but seriously... sometimes life sucks. suck it up and move on. If you complain about everything you dont like or dont understand your gonna be one unhappy guy.

[jeepinxj01]

It seems maturity only comes in black and white - not shades of grey on this forum. I know im the dumbass kid who started this thread but seriously...


What do you want said? You posted; we read. I don't sympathize. My sympathy is in the dictionary between shit and syphyllis, but I do empathize. I was in similar situations when I was younger. It happens. Point is; I don't think men and women can be true friends without one wanting to bone the other unless one is gay. You said yourself that you used to have a crush on her. Used to, is bull. If you didn't have a relationship with her, then to me that was the only reason you 2 were "friends." Let it go. If she's going to be a bitch like that, then it's not worth it. But then again, she's young and easily influenced by her mom. They all are.

[IXNAYXJ]

Has this thread really gone on this long? Wow. Please, make it stop.

-----Matt-----

[CRASH]

Can I assume you didn't take my advice on page three and four of 'Errrrr...."?

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=58792&page=3

I think you could have had Mom "cured" by now if you had.

[Matthew Currie]

Its the friend that I don't quite understand.

Sometimes there's just nothing to understand. She could just be stupid.

[corbinafly]

Your yota girl was pissed from the get go cause you had another GIRL riding shotgun with you. DuH??!!

She was probably hoping to get all your attention to herself since girls are all attention whores.

I'll cut you some slack until you're about 20 or so. By then you should have a better grasp of how females think and behave. They give hints that are so obvious to them, but go right over our heads. Guys don't hint. We just say what's on our minds.

That is all....

Kyung

[Rev Den]

you're about 20 or so. By then you should have a better grasp of how females think and behave.


Riiiiiight. I am 41 and I still have very little clue as to what my wife is thinking sometimes.

Rev

[corbinafly]

Riiiiiight. I am 41 and I still have very little clue as to what my wife is thinking sometimes.

Rev
I said "better grasp" not "good".;) World of difference.

Kyung

[Rev Den]

Good point.

Rev

[CommandoXJ96]

Uhm; maybe I'll get lucky and get a better grasp on some of these "alien" concepts such as - hidden messages more important then expressed from these said... Females... Wish me luck. Toyota girl is gone in 10 days from my life so whatever. Through the grapevine I heard that by waiting to find a suitable place to stop my truck on this descent from hell (my first area i stopped at i could see my tires lose grip and just Go so i kept looking for a less then 30 degree incline to park in) was where I went wrong. I broke the 'rules of offroading' (leaving someone behind and charging ahead?) by not stopping earlier or turning my truck around (which wasnt possible). Apparently parking and running up the hill wasnt good enough for a certain someone.

All in the past... lifes not long enough for me to waste time worrying about it still. If she thinks its long enuf to be pissed about... uhm... nothing, then whatever. Maybe next time I'll catch on to the hidden "logic" faster with the next girl whos willing to wheel - I don't see this entire thing as a major regret that I'm at fualt for. Whats done is done.

Thanks for all the advice though guys. Will come in handy in future situations im sure.