Effect of the Fires

[Santa Cruz Sailor]

It is so dark and smoky in the C.I. Harbor that the street lights have come on at 2pm in the afternoon. I have had to batten down all the ports and stuff rags in the dorad vents to keep the ash and smoke out of the boat. My beach air lungs are not used to this bad air quality. :flame:

It is burning literally, all around my area excluding the ocean side. None of the fires are close enough for too much concern other that the air quality, but that does not make it any easier on my state of mind.

http://www.weather.gov/view/prodsByState.php?state=ca&prodtype=public

Check out this weather site to see the actual wind speeds.

~~Ardis

[GrimmJeeper]

i drove up the 5 this morning and it was nice and clear. drove back down between 2 and 3 and the smoke was so thick it was like a storm blew in. the wind today was horrible, i was blown clear into the next lane once and it was very hard to keep the ol XJ in one lane. there was so much smoke in the air around magic mountain you could barely see it from the freeway.

[Fergie]

I guess growing up in Flag, I'm used to forest fires. I don't understand what all the hullabaloo is about, but I can see the smoke from the Marina.

Hope everyone gets out okay, and the don't lose anything irreplaceable.

[djblade311]

i drove up the 5 this morning and it was nice and clear. drove back down between 2 and 3 and the smoke was so thick it was like a storm blew in. the wind today was horrible, i was blown clear into the next lane once and it was very hard to keep the ol XJ in one lane. there was so much smoke in the air around magic mountain you could barely see it from the freeway.

did you get your license back?

This morning I noticed the air quality was crappy and saw the smoke. seems like every time the SA winds kick in, there are fires...

[IslanderOffRoad]

I guess growing up in Flag, I'm used to forest fires. I don't understand what all the hullabaloo is about, but I can see the smoke from the Marina.

Hope everyone gets out okay, and the don't lose anything irreplaceable.

We're pretty used to them too, this is an annual thing for us. The news just likes to blow everything out of proportion.

[karstic]

We're pretty used to them too, this is an annual thing for us. The news just likes to blow everything out of proportion.

People loosing homes and businesses,:flame: yeah the news is blowing things out of proportion

[IslanderOffRoad]

People loosing homes and businesses,:flame: yeah the news is blowing things out of proportion

Has anyone lost them yet today?

[karstic]

Guess you haven't watched any news coverage today.

YES, both homes and business have been lost in Malibu.

[IslanderOffRoad]

Guess you haven't watched any news coverage today.

YES, both homes and business have been lost in Malibu.

wow.

you know what i mean about the news though. one raindrop falls and we're on stormwatch and they gotta send someone out dressed like the gorton's fisherman to cover it.

[karstic]

No I hear ya. This hit a little close to home though, I have a cousin that lives and owns a business in Malibu (she's alright).

[IslanderOffRoad]

No I hear ya. This hit a little close to home though, I have a cousin that lives and owns a business in Malibu (she's alright).

Good to hear.

I just heard from a friend that her parents have been evacuated. Hopefully their house will be fine.

[ruggedjeep]

These fires are pretty serious because they are really residential. Several homes in malibu have been lost, a church and a really old castle that had presidential memroblia has been burned; total loss. Im 15min from malibu and the sky here is horrible. Amber everywhere. Just 25min north in porter ranch is another fire which is getting worse by the seond. No homes lost there yet but its not looking good.

[blackdoutxj]

wow, but dam why does it seem when one fire breaks out another just so happens to start...and its far away...every year here i swear...

[Fergie]

Too bad on the loss of house and hmoe and business, but it isnt the first time there have been fires like this, or is it?

I've had several fires within 100YD of my home in Flagstaff, and one came to right across the road, but do to proper range maintenance, the fire stayed on that side of the road, and no homes were lost.

They risked it by building there, sometimes the risk wins.

[karstic]

wow, but dam why does it seem when one fire breaks out another just so happens to start...and its far away...every year here i swear...

All the pyro's out there are getting off right now. Happens whenever the Santa Ana's pick up. Match in one hand, pecker in the other.

At least the Malibu one was caused by downed powerlines. Heard there's another fire down in SD, near Ramona.

[89xjJe3per]

There is one that started today out here in camarillo... Santa rosa Rd. going out the back way to moorpark about half way down. it got really big to.. i dont kno if any homes where involved but im only 10 mins drive from there and i could smell it and the sky on man.. like end of days plus the MAD wind...

[IslanderOffRoad]

There is one that started today out here in camarillo... Santa rosa Rd. going out the back way to moorpark about half way down. it got really big to.. i dont kno if any homes where involved but im only 10 mins drive from there and i could smell it and the sky on man.. like end of days plus the MAD wind...

is this one still going or is it out? i havent seen it reported

[XbajajeepX]

Last I "heard" there were about 7 different fires going right now...

The U.S. side of Tecate is on fire and they are evacuating....

I know 1 person was killed and 4 firefighters injured...

[XbajajeepX]

AND Arnold issued a state of emergency in all So Cal counties...

[ocean_jet]

Some 40,000 people are being evacuated from Ramona and neighboring communities becuase of the "Witch Creek Fire". The Cedar fire started outside of Ramona, almost exactly 4 years ago.

City officials have been saying that this fire has the potential to be worse than the Cedar fire (which burned 2,200 homes) becuase fire fighters have been unable to fight the fire all day becuase the winds are too strong. They say they may not be able to seriously fight it until Tuesday when the winds are expected to die down.

I think they are giving the media plenty to be frantic about.

[XJRunner]

dude they evac'ed 10 mins from my house. My dads got a full machine shop full of half finished hot rods. He is callin customers from all over the state and they are haulin ass to come pick them up. What sucks for me is my jeeps in pieces and not movable. :(

[XbajajeepX]

I guess the fire in the Irvine/Tustin area has only been burning for 4 hours and has already consumed 3800 acres.

[XbajajeepX]

dude they evac'ed 10 mins from my house. My dads got a full machine shop full of half finished hot rods. He is callin customers from all over the state and they are haulin ass to come pick them up. What sucks for me is my jeeps in pieces and not movable. :(

That sucks, man....

I hope the best for ya.

[blackdoutxj]

i also heard that there is another fire in auza....dam:(!

[Jump This]

Match in one hand, pecker in the other.

Ummmm....how do you light the match?

:dunno:

Damn guys, I was up in Big Bear all weekend and had no idea what was going on. I did hear about the Malibu fire but nothing about the others. When I started heading down the mountain the valley looked as though a giant dust storm was blowing through but it was smoke from the fires. When we got to
Morongo I thaught there was smoke from a fire but it was a dust storm! By the time we reached Coachella Valley is was almost a dead calm.
I hope nobody looses anything else...
But there is good news, after realy big fires, the propery value's go up in the desert!

:D

[karstic]

Ummmm....how do you light the match?

BBQ lighter

:dunno:

Damn guys, I was up in Big Bear all weekend and had no idea what was going on. I did hear about the Malibu fire but nothing about the others. When I started heading down the mountain the valley looked as though a giant dust storm was blowing through but it was smoke from the fires. When we got to
Morongo I thaught there was smoke from a fire but it was a dust storm! By the time we reached Coachella Valley is was almost a dead calm.
I hope nobody looses anything else...
But there is good news, after realy big fires, the propery value's go up in the desert!

:D

Heard there are two fires between Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear that started this morning...

It's going to be an interesting week.

[Fergie]

Looks like the Whale's Vagina area is getting hit hard too.

[Trail-Axe]

Just finished a trip to Huntington Beach via PCH-1, and drove right through the Malibu area on my way back to N. Cal. (with my brand spanking new Dynatrac rear-end in the back of my XJ). :)

Hope you So-Cal guys come out of this ok.

I remember the 1994 fires; I worked for L.A. Co. Fire, station 69 in Topanga Cyn. back then. I was at Gladstone’s (PCH/ Sunset Blvd) on Thursday, showing my GF the pictures on the wall in that restaurant of the 1994 fires. Talk about getting out of Dodge just in time!

Be prayn for ya for sure!
Gar

[rpraterxj]

BBQ lighter



Heard there are two fires between Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear that started this morning...

It's going to be an interesting week.

Yep! Green Valley Lake Fire and Arrowhead fire have both burned homes.

I think that there have been 6 NEW fires started today. One more at Lytle Creek near the 15 fwy.

[XJMilan]

Does anyone know of where to get the best up to date fire info for Big Bear online? My mom and dad live in Running Springs and are under mandatory evacuation. I want to try to keep track of this thing to see exactly where it is burning. Thanks.

Rob

[XJMilan]

Here is alittle info I came across. I hope everyone is safe out there.
__________________________________________________ _____________



'Significant structure loss' in Lake Arrowhead, supervisor says

A San Bernardino County supervisor says there has been "significant structure loss" in Lake Arrowhead, but the number of homes burned was not yet known early Monday afternoon.
San Bernardino County Supervisor Dennis Hansberger, whose district includes the mountain community of Lake Arrowhead, was at an incident command center at Mary Putnam Henck Intermediate School along with Board President Paul Biane and County Administrative Officer Mark Uffer. The school is near the threatened Grass Valley area.
“We know there’s been significant structural loss, we just don’t have an opportunity for anybody to count them,” Hansberger said in a telephone interview.
Many homes have been saved by firefighters, he said. Earlier in the day, Hansberger visited the Deer Lodge Park community, north of Lake Arrowhead, where firefighters were able to save all but two homes, he said.
“It’s not a complete burn-over at this point,” he said.
Firefighters were attacking the fire on all sides but they’re contending with heavy winds and a dense mix of manzanita brush and conifer trees, Hansberger said.
“With this wind pushing it, this fire is very difficult to contain on all flanks,” he said.
Resources are strapped by the many fires burning in Southern California today, he said.

[GrimmJeeper]

wow the 15 is closed from the 138 to the 215. hope you high desert peeps are not too close to this. i hope cleghorn doesnt burn!

[GSequoia]

Does anyone know of where to get the best up to date fire info for Big Bear online? My mom and dad live in Running Springs and are under mandatory evacuation. I want to try to keep track of this thing to see exactly where it is burning. Thanks.

Rob

http://rimoftheworld.net/ Is pretty good for that area.

[XJMilan]

http://rimoftheworld.net/ Is pretty good for that area.
Thanks. :thumbup: It is not looking good right now for all those people and homes up there.

Rob

[GrimmJeeper]

they are showing homes on fire in the lake arrowhead area on abc7 right now :( this is bad.

[Jump This]

they are showing homes on fire in the lake arrowhead area on abc7 right now :( this is bad.

As long as the wind blows west.....

My place is to the east.....

[XJMilan]

I was just up there on saturday dirtbike riding. I rode from miller canyon over to arrowhead and back. This sucks. There were some nice houses up in that area.

[Skwerly]

From what i can see the wind is blowing the wrong way to damage Cleghorn, so we're safe there. I'm watching the tube too, 25+ homes wasted in the mountains; man, that is uber-sad. I have a friend in Crestline and I called and emailed him letting him know him and his family can stay here if need be, even though it'll be a tight fit :woohoo:.

To top all this off I had a terrible day at work lol. It's rather hard for me to have bad days at work since i'm part time and really don't do a lot, but today was able to clear that hurdle and go directly into "oh my God can it get any worse??". Anyhoo, there's my gripe. I will take a bad day over losing my home though, so I guess i should just grab a beer and shut up :).

[FishPOET]

Does anyone know of where to get the best up to date fire info for Big Bear online? My mom and dad live in Running Springs and are under mandatory evacuation. I want to try to keep track of this thing to see exactly where it is burning. Thanks.

Rob

http://www.socalmountains.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewforum.php?12

[Skwerly]

Ya know, I'm not done griping. I'm sitting here watching the stupid news, and these idiot media reporters are STOPPING folks who are fleeing from their homes for an interview.

I understand freedom of speech and free expression and all of that junk, I know the law. HOWEVER, it is borderline absolute and total disregard for safety and everything else to stop a family who is crying, carrying as much as they can on their backs and heading down the hill to (where??) escape a fire that may possibly, or HAS taken their home - simply for a story! I tell ya, if it were ME evacuating and leaving behind everything I'd worked so hard for, there would be a reporter with a fat lip, and I wouldn't care if they were male or female at that point.

I just saw one reporter who stopped a couple leaving their home, possibly for the last time, and she had the GALL to tell them that it has also been hard on the media hanging around the fires. OH MY GOD, there are no words for how insensitive and absolutely insane that sounds.

Sorry, now I'm done. !!!1

[IslanderOffRoad]

Doh.

My summer camp lost their pier due to the wind's effect on the waves.

[XJMilan]

http://www.socalmountains.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewforum.php?12
Thanks. Much appreciated.

Rob

[Maz]

Does anyone have a link of an arial map that shows where all the fires are? Like those they show on TV news? Thanks

[GrimmJeeper]

Does anyone have a link of an arial map that shows where all the fires are? Like those they show on TV news? Thanks
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=5720745

[Maz]

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=5720745

Thanks man

[ocean_jet]

Pushing 300,000 evacuations in San Diego...

Thousands will lose their home today. News is reporting that officials expect it to get worse before it gets better.

Very sad day down here.

[GrimmJeeper]

abc says 17 named fires now this is ridiculous. the sky outside is grey the light coming in the window is an eerie yellowish orange... and all i can smell is fire. im not much for praying but me and my families prayers are going out to anyone being forced to leave thier homes. i cant even imagine what i would do if i was told to leave my home and everything in it, knowing i may never come back to it. if there is anything i can do for anyone affected by this please let me know.

[Skwerly]

Hey i second that, I have some space here and I have four wheel drive (haha), not a lot of cash but i'll help any way i can!

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

man my ass is trapped on camp pendleton......damn fires.

[Jump This]

man my ass is trapped on camp pendleton......damn fires.
Don't be suprised if you guys start patroling the evacuated towns....

[ocean_jet]

i cant even imagine what i would do if i was told to leave my home and everything in it, knowing i may never come back to it.

It's pretty crazy.

You got 15 minutes to get out... what do you grab?

The worst part is driving away and thinking of all the things you wished you had grabbed.



I don't know how much people can do to help at this point? If there's a shelter nearby, and you have anything they need (boxed foods, blankets) that would be helpful I am sure...

[Brendan_91XJ]

I am a bit far from anyone that may need a place, but I have a roof if anyone needs it.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

damit now south carlsbads in trouble...... looks like im moving out of my place a little earlier than i thought!

[Skwerly]

Ouch man, how bad is it down there dumptruck?

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

rainin ash and smoke my eyes and lungs are burnin!

Ouch man, how bad is it down there dumptruck?

[Skwerly]

Oh man, that ain't good, if you have somewhere to go I'd consider it, your health could be compromised.

[Jump This]

Oh man, that ain't good, if you have somewhere to go I'd consider it, your health could be compromised.

Um....Ben is a Marine isn't he?
Being shot at could compromise one's health, I'm thinkin' a bit of
smoke and ash isn't so bad......in comparison.

:D

[Trail-Axe]

Um....Ben is a Marine isn't he?
Being shot at could compromise one's health, I'm thinkin' a bit of
smoke and ash isn't so bad......in comparison.

:D

At least when you are being shot at, there is someone to receive the same love on the other end. Some environmental health hazards suck worse then being shot at, unless you get hit, and even then sometimes that is less painful then the crud in the air you have to breath.

Just got notified to stand by for possible deployment to So-Cal, so help is on the way.

Gar

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

nice what branch you in?

At least when you are being shot at, there is someone to receive the same love on the other end. Some environmental health hazards suck worse then being shot at, unless you get hit, and even then sometimes that is less painful then the crud in the air you have to breath.

Just got notified to stand by for possible deployment to So-Cal, so help is on the way.

Gar

[Gerr]

if anyone needs space to store vehicles or animals call me at 760-646-0572 or 909-841-1721 we have enough room for quite a few cars trucks rv's etc and can kennel some dogs horses etc

[Fergie]

I've got an extra room if someone needs it, plenty of street parking too.

As far as what to grab, make yourself an oh shit bag. I've got my CamelBak, with a first aid kit, 2 extra nalgenes of water, purifier(chemical and bio), and a weeks worth of dog food, and power bars. Wife has a Camelbak, 1 nalgene, toilet paper, clean wipes, deodorant and glasses for us. She grabs the fireproof safe with our important docs, and I grab the dog and her gear.

Several years ago when Flagstaff, and most of AZ was bruning, we had family rendezvous points set-up, and some caches of supplies at other folks homes....gotta be prepared.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

hey everybody jack graef owner of CTM lives in fallbrook close to the 15/76 freeways right where all the fires have been running through.

I spoke to his father at the shop yesterday and he said jack took off on dirtroads to try and save his goat and dogs.

keep jack in your prayers and lets hope the fires skipped his house.

[djblade311]

if anyone hasnt seen it yet, they have posted the Irvine fire coverage using google maps which is constantly being updated:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=107327873899641045650.00043d1de33aaa4eb6ffb&om=1&ll=33.716608,-117.675847&spn=0.117082,0.181444&source=embed

[rpraterxj]

if anyone hasnt seen it yet, they have posted the Irvine fire coverage using google maps which is constantly being updated:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=107327873899641045650.00043d1de33aaa4eb6ffb&om=1&ll=33.716608,-117.675847&spn=0.117082,0.181444&source=embed

Thanks Josh. That really puts it into perspective of how close I am to it! I know I am very lucky and there is no threat of it spreading to me. My house is near El Toro Road and Trabuco Road, less than 2.5 miles from the fire.

My prayers and thoughts go out the folks all over SoCal that are losing or have lost their home.

[Gerr]

if you want to see the effect of the fires come over to Leeps or my house and look towards big bear, I estimate out of 180* of viewable mountains from his back yard 120* is a nice shade of red right now and in the hour we were gone for lunch with Applevallyslim the fire had moved substantially closer to the next closer line of hills. Even to the point where we were now in the flight path from refueling stations to the fire. Im not a overly religious man but I prayed today as it seems hell is on it's way

[1xfloppy]

found out my parents have been evacuated! GOD HATES CALIFORNIA

[RTicUL8]

The news has been almost overwhelming lately.

So I just wanted to say to all of you...















GO ROCKIES!!!! :D
http://img.webring.com/r/c/coloradorockies/logo






===

All joking aside...
I hope everyone comes out alright.
However, I know that's not going to be the case.

We're still going to send you our best wishes and prayers for safety and a speedy return to normal life. :thumbup:


.

[GrimmJeeper]

i dont particularly like the rocks but as long as the socks dont take it im good :D

[1xfloppy]

i agree with grimm screw the sox

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

UPDATE:

Jack Graef owner of CTM is okay and his home survived the blaze!

his neighbors houses did go up in smoke but his is okay, he saved all his animals except for his pigs but they are okay according to local firefighters right now he is trying to make it back to his place to feed them.

[Jump This]

What is crazy out here is that Borrego Springs has become a suburb of Julian. When they evacuated the mountains they had no place to go but out here. The Red Cross and FEMA stepped up and provided all the supplies we needed but limited personnel.
I gotta' tell you how proud I am of my town. The people around here stepped up and took control and are doing one helluva' job feeding two thousand 'guests.'
I have a family staying with us (with thier five dogs) and am amazed at how kids deal with loosing a home (if you wrestle with them and throw a bowl of Halloween candy thier way!)

Anyway, its not over and Julian is now in the path of the fires.....

Rick

[mikedashg]

The whole effort makes me proud.

I was evacuated Monday morning around 5:30am. When I arrived at Mira Mesa High around 7am they were already serving breakfast of eggs, potatoes and sauasage. While standing in line for registration we were offered muffins and freshly baked cookies. About every 20 minutes someone came by with water bottles offering water. We had plenty. The Red Cross really stepped up there and there was plenty of supplies. Cots were limited though. Qualcom stadium had to stop taking donations at one point because they had too much. Lots of volunteers too.

We had at least 4 or 5 places we could have stayed at with friends who came forward, but we've been in a hotel since Monday night. We'll probably go back Thur morning. Our place is OK. But friends and relatives are not so lucky.

[cracker]

The whole effort makes me proud.

I was evacuated Monday morning around 5:30am. When I arrived at Mira Mesa High around 7am they were already serving breakfast of eggs, potatoes and sauasage. While standing in line for registration we were offered muffins and freshly baked cookies. About every 20 minutes someone came by with water bottles offering water. We had plenty. The Red Cross really stepped up there and there was plenty of supplies. Cots were limited though. Qualcom stadium had to stop taking donations at one point because they had too much. Lots of volunteers too.

We had at least 4 or 5 places we could have stayed at with friends who came forward, but we've been in a hotel since Monday night. We'll probably go back Thur morning. Our place is OK. But friends and relatives are not so lucky.

I'm glad to hear you faired well. Sounds like most of the SoCal Chapter got lucky.

-Avery

[Trail-Axe]

The whole effort makes me proud.

I was evacuated Monday morning around 5:30am. When I arrived at Mira Mesa High around 7am they were already serving breakfast of eggs, potatoes and sausage. While standing in line for registration we were offered muffins and freshly baked cookies. About every 20 minutes someone came by with water bottles offering water. We had plenty. The Red Cross really stepped up there and there were plenty of supplies. Cots were limited though. Qualcom stadium had to stop taking donations at one point because they had too much. Lots of volunteers too.

We had at least 4 or 5 places we could have stayed at with friends who came forward, but we've been in a hotel since Monday night. We'll probably go back Thur morning. Our place is OK. But friends and relatives are not so lucky.

That is good to hear. Hopefully your house does not get looted while you are gone. I know some people will wonder why it was so bad for those who suffered through Hurricane Katrina, and the quality of help those poor people received, as compared to those in CA.

I was in LA doing my part to help them people, and I know what they went through, so it’s good to hear that things are better for those in CA. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that people actually evacuated in CA, but in many parts of LA, they did not. I saw a guy who tied himself to a pole, thinking he could survive the storm. He was DRT (Dead Right There). It was very bad there.

A word of caution: When you go back home after having been evacuated, watch for snakes and other dangerous animals; and looters that may still be in and or around your house, ...depending on where you live.

[IslanderOffRoad]

What is crazy out here is that Borrego Springs has become a suburb of Julian. When they evacuated the mountains they had no place to go but out here. The Red Cross and FEMA stepped up and provided all the supplies we needed but limited personnel.
I gotta' tell you how proud I am of my town. The people around here stepped up and took control and are doing one helluva' job feeding two thousand 'guests.'
I have a family staying with us (with thier five dogs) and am amazed at how kids deal with loosing a home (if you wrestle with them and throw a bowl of Halloween candy thier way!)

Anyway, its not over and Julian is now in the path of the fires.....

Rick

Having been in Borrego before, I gotta say the people there are pretty awesome/helpful. Not something we see often here in the burbs.

[1xfloppy]

well my moms mandatory evacuation turned into voluntary, shes been volunttering at a local church to help with others who have been evac'd...

[GSequoia]

My red Jeep has been parked here in Redondo this whole time since I have been driving the Chief. Here is what it looks like, mind you it's parked under a tree so a lot of the ashy fallout is blocked...

http://events.sequoia4x4.com/d/18570-2/IMG_0005.JPG (http://events.sequoia4x4.com/d/18566-3/IMG_0005.JPG)
Click on it to see it get bigger.

[GrimmJeeper]

Click on it to see it get bigger. is that what you tell the ladies these days G?

[GSequoia]

is that what you tell the ladies these days G?

No.

Thta's more of a double-click.