new toy

[Kejtar]

http://i21.tinypic.com/dxisrb.jpg
:D

[cracker]

My new toy

http://muttonbone.com/images/sheep_back.jpg
http://muttonbone.com/images/sheep_front.jpg

[GrimmJeeper]

aahhh! keep it in the den!

[cracker]

What is wrong with a sheep? :dunno:

A den pic would include it being used ;)

[rpraterxj]

Cracker has nothing to post regarding Jeeps anymore, so this is he spends his free time now..... :roflmao:


J/K Cracker.... I know you will build something bada$$ real soon....

[Pologuy1441]

how come a sheep f$%&er does so at the edge of a cliff?




so the sheep pushes back.

[GrimmJeeper]

oh by the way nice gun remi :D

specs?

[cracker]

Hey look

A sheep getting away
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/106/304760590_d0aea6cced.jpg?v=0

[Kejtar]

oh by the way nice gun remi :D

specs?
M1 in .30 Caliber and an 18”. The front of the barrel reads: Inland Mfg Div General Motors 1-44.

[cracker]

When you have the sheep really close tot he edge of the cliff.........

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9146/fallingsheep9rj.gif

They can fall. Watch out for falling sheep

[karstic]

M1 in .30 Caliber and an 18”. The front of the barrel reads: Inland Mfg Div General Motors 1-44.

CMP rifle?

[Kejtar]

CMP rifle?
nope, a dealer sale out of an estate. The other rifles that are in the estate are also niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice :D Unfortunately some of them have to be sold out of state :(

[jtkratzer]

M1 Carbine... .30 caliber, specifically the .30 Carbine. You see it in most modern WW2 movies...Saving Private Ryan, etc.

There are two for sale at a local shop here, one was modified to use a pistol grip without a stock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Carbine


Are there many gun owners on this forum?

[jeeperjohn]

M1 Carbine... .30 caliber, specifically the .30 Carbine. You see it in most modern WW2 movies...Saving Private Ryan, etc.

There are two for sale at a local shop here, one was modified to use a pistol grip without a stock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Carbine


Are there many gun owners on this forum?
The gawd@^n gun nazis in Ca would faint at the thought of a "MODIFIED" "ASSAULT" rifle.:soapbox: Damn Pu$$ies!lastara

[JohnX]

Are there many gun owners on this forum?
In a word....YES

[jtkratzer]

The gawd@^n gun nazis in Ca would faint at the thought of a "MODIFIED" "ASSAULT" rifle.:soapbox: Damn Pu$$ies!lastara

You mean Kommifornia? PA has great gun laws...

[Stihl029]

The gawd@^n gun nazis in Ca would faint at the thought of a "MODIFIED" "ASSAULT" rifle.:soapbox: Damn Pu$$ies!lastara

Hey they make those 10 rnd mags for the carbine...but Alaskan laws are better as well. I had to sell off several guns before I went to CA. I still miss my Egyptian AK

[Kejtar]

M1 Carbine... .30 caliber, specifically the .30 Carbine. You see it in most modern WW2 movies...Saving Private Ryan, etc.

Well, I got it cause it's going to be a perfect match for my M1 Garand :D That rifile is all WWII vintage parts :D

Are there many gun owners on this forum?
more then you'd believe :D

[Lady XJ]

Does anyone WORRY about the fact REMI is stock-piling weapons?

:P

[scottmcneal]

Nope, he knows what to do with them....

[sjd78]

California sucks balls when it comes to gun laws!

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

ya but we all break em....


im probably not the only one around here with a m-16.

[Jump This]

California sucks balls when it comes to gun laws!

Hadn't noticed.

And just for the record, I don't own guns....:eyes:

[jtkratzer]

When you say "M16" ....do you mean an AR-15 variant or a true full auto/three shot burst M16? As much as California's gun laws suck, I still recommend obeying them all, and if that's a problem, move to a gun friendly state. Messing around with felonies is no joke.

I have numerous firearms and I really enjoy my Springfield XD45 compact. I have an old bolt action .22 lr from the 60s that is a blast as well.

I've started setting money aside to build a nice collection of vintage war rifles and various others...AK, SKS, AR, Mosin Nagant, Springfield rifles, an SMLE, etc. etc. etc.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

its okay im in the marines

[jtkratzer]

its okay im in the marines

No problem, I thought you meant a personally owned firearm, as in leaning in the corner of the living room or something. None of my business really.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

thatd be pretty cool though, leaning in the corner of the living room.

"hey bob is that a m16a1 over there?"
"ya its holdin the tv able up"


No problem, I thought you meant a personally owned firearm, as in leaning in the corner of the living room or something. None of my business really.

[lazarus]

wow, I never thought to use any of the rifles to hold up tables! what are you guys using now? the m4 with the 14.5 barrell? And if you are going to build an rifle collection , none is complete without a fal or two

[Oatmeal]

M1 in .30 Caliber and an 18”. The front of the barrel reads: Inland Mfg Div General Motors 1-44.During WWII several vendors built the M1 carbines among them Rockola (made juke boxes) and Underwood (typewriters) as well as the company that made parking meters (can't remember their name) there was also a full auto version designated, I believe, the M2. King Gun Works (if they're still around) in Burbank, CA. had (or still has?) quite a collection of them on display in their store. Too bad yours was "sporterised" with the Monte Carlo style stock......looks to be in nice shape, though. The other poster mentioned a pistol grip version.....the paratrooper version came that way with a folding wire stock.....cool stuff! Yeah, I'm a "gun nut" been around them since age 4 :D ---------Hans

[ifoundastick]

I don't like the M1 carbine so much rounds are too expensive. My grandfather bought a Remington O3 A3 off the army right after ww2 for 10 bucks.

[jtkratzer]

During WWII several vendors built the M1 carbines among them Rockola (made juke boxes) and Underwood (typewriters) as well as the company that made parking meters (can't remember their name) there was also a full auto version designated, I believe, the M2. King Gun Works (if they're still around) in Burbank, CA. had (or still has?) quite a collection of them on display in their store. Too bad yours was "sporterised" with the Monte Carlo style stock......looks to be in nice shape, though. The other poster mentioned a pistol grip version.....the paratrooper version came that way with a folding wire stock.....cool stuff! Yeah, I'm a "gun nut" been around them since age 4 :D ---------Hans

This was a homemade job...nothing military issue. It's furniture was all wood.

"I'm a gun nut, but at least I'm not a nut with a gun." ...good quote.

[Oatmeal]

I don't like the M1 carbine so much rounds are too expensive. My grandfather bought a Remington O3 A3 off the army right after ww2 for 10 bucks.Back in the mid sixties (yeah, I'm an old dude) my dad picked up a couple od Springfield O3A3s still packed in cosmoline for really cheap. He customized them and later sold them.......I wish he would have left original (they'd be worth something now)-------Hans

[KRAKER]

I beleive Singer sewing machine company also made Thomson machine guns too. During WW2. I like the gun laws out here. Everyone wears one! Its status quo. I swear some of these guys match their shoes to a gun. I also like that I can buy a rifle or pistol (once I get my CCW) and walk out with it that day! I'll be picking up a shotgun this weekend.

[jtkratzer]

I beleive Singer sewing machine company also made Thomson machine guns too. During WW2. I like the gun laws out here. Everyone wears one! Its status quo. I swear some of these guys match their shoes to a gun. I also like that I can buy a rifle or pistol (once I get my CCW) and walk out with it that day! I'll be picking up a shotgun this weekend.

In PA, you don't even need a permit. Walk in, fill out the paperwork and pass the background check...take as many home as the wallet (and wife) will allow.

PA also allows open carry without a permit except in Philadelphia. The CCW permit is paperwork, $25, a max 2 week wait, and an appointment for a photo ID.

[KRAKER]

Dang that pretty laxed. I just moved to AZ here from SoCal. I should have clarified. You buy rifles under the same guidelines as where you are. Pistol are a 3 day wait I think (compared to 15 i beleive in Ca for anything) I'm not exaclty sure on the waiting peiod. A CCW is about $188 and up to 90 day wait. But yeah Ca gun laws are crazy! Now that I live here I can get the rest of my guns from nevada where they have been the past couple years.

[Kejtar]

During WWII several vendors built the M1 carbines among them Rockola (made juke boxes) and Underwood (typewriters) as well as the company that made parking meters (can't remember their name) there was also a full auto version designated, I believe, the M2. King Gun Works (if they're still around) in Burbank, CA. had (or still has?) quite a collection of them on display in their store. Too bad yours was "sporterised" with the Monte Carlo style stock......looks to be in nice shape, though. The other poster mentioned a pistol grip version.....the paratrooper version came that way with a folding wire stock.....cool stuff! Yeah, I'm a "gun nut" been around them since age 4 :D ---------Hans
the one I really want is the IBM made Carbine.. but those are EXPENSIVE!

[Kejtar]

I beleive Singer sewing machine company also made Thomson machine guns too.
During WWII EVERYONE made guns!

[Oatmeal]

During WWII EVERYONE made guns!
I believe Mattel Toys was a major vendor of M-16s during Vietnam........I wonder if they had any Chinese lead paint in them :laugh: -------Hans

[Oatmeal]

For your reading pleasure: http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/m2m3.htm :) ------------Hans

[karstic]

As soon as they lift the fire restrictions in the SBNF we're gonna hafta go on a little shooting spree.

[Kejtar]

As soon as they lift the fire restrictions in the SBNF we're gonna hafta go on a little shooting spree.
you coming out to Calico? If so... Sunday is going to be fun ;)

[cracker]

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?p=243634189#post243634189


:D

[GSequoia]

As soon as they lift the fire restrictions in the SBNF we're gonna hafta go on a little shooting spree.

Eff yeah!

[bburge]

Back in the mid sixties (yeah, I'm an old dude) my dad picked up a couple od Springfield O3A3s still packed in cosmoline for really cheap. He customized them and later sold them.......I wish he would have left original (they'd be worth something now)-------Hans

Yeah, my father used to do that. He'd buy 03-A3 (it's a zero, for 1903) and restock them and mount scope mounts and call them deer rifles. Still has a couple of them in the gun cabinet.

03-A3's were like $10 and .45 ACP Colt pistols were something like $7.

(BTW Remi - I believe your M1 carbine has a non-original stock. M1's didn't have cheek pieces...)

Gun owner? You bet...

Here's a picture of my pet:

http://www.4footed.com/one-offs/boland/P161-sm.jpg

bburge

[bburge]

the one I really want is the IBM made Carbine.. but those are EXPENSIVE!

The Colt 45 pistol, during WWII, was made a large group of companies with some pretty funny comparisons. Union Switch and Signal, train track gear maker, Singer sewing machine company, Remington Rand typewriter company,... My father's WWII colt is a Reminton Rand.

Mine's all Colt, OK it STARTED all Colt. :sunshine:

bburge

[jtkratzer]

The Colt 45 pistol, during WWII, was made a large group of companies with some pretty funny comparisons. Union Switch and Signal, train track gear maker, Singer sewing machine company, Remington Rand typewriter company,... My father's WWII colt is a Reminton Rand.

Mine's all Colt, OK it STARTED all Colt. :sunshine:

bburge

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it all start with John Browning and he sold the design to Colt, who was the first major manufacturer to build his pistol???

[bburge]

Yes, John Browning designed it. Colt built it, but during WWII they needed more than Colt could turn out in the required amount of time - so others built them as well. After the war, they went to be solely made by Colt.

Jeeps were made by Ford during WWII....

Anyone who wants to learn a lot about semi-automatic pistols needs to spend quality time with the Colt 1911A1 and the Glock.

bburge

[Oatmeal]

Anyone who wants to learn a lot about semi-automatic pistols needs to spend quality time with the Colt 1911A1 and the Glock.

I love my "Tupperware gun" :D , that's what my brother calls my Glock 17 (pre ban ;) ).......he owns Sigs (I lust for his 357/40 Sig)------------Hans

[jtkratzer]

Glocks are nice, but I think the Springfield XDs are an improvement on a great design.

I prefer the XD's grip angle and grip safety...it's much more comparable to the 1911 style than the Glock.

[Oatmeal]

Glocks are nice, but I think the Springfield XDs are an improvement on a great design.

I prefer the XD's grip angle and grip safety...it's much more comparable to the 1911 style than the Glock.Glocks have been proven to be indistructable, though. I remember reading (I think it was Guns and Ammo) a torture test between the Glock, Barretta 92F and a couple of other pistols (can't remember which ones). They packed them full of mud, drowned them, fired hot loads (+P+) ran them over and dropped them (literally) out of a helicopter......the Glock never hicupped. No accidental discharging.....nothing (they broke the Barretta's slide firing +P+ loads. I like my Glock, very few moving parts, extremely safe (no need for external safeties.....the ONLY way it will discharge is by pulling the trigger) reasonably accurate and just about bullet proof (no pun intended :D ). The only thing that I can find fault in is, in case of a misfire, you have to cycle another round into the chamber, you can't just keep pulling the trigger....unlike a true double action. I would however, take a Sig 220 over anything!---------Hans

[jtkratzer]

Glocks have been proven to be indistructable, though. I remember reading (I think it was Guns and Ammo) a torture test between the Glock, Barretta 92F and a couple of other pistols (can't remember which ones). They packed them full of mud, drowned them, fired hot loads (+P+) ran them over and dropped them (literally) out of a helicopter......the Glock never hicupped. No accidental discharging.....nothing (they broke the Barretta's slide firing +P+ loads. I like my Glock, very few moving parts, extremely safe (no need for external safeties.....the ONLY way it will discharge is by pulling the trigger) reasonably accurate and just about bullet proof (no pun intended :D ). The only thing that I can find fault in is, in case of a misfire, you have to cycle another round into the chamber, you can't just keep pulling the trigger....unlike a true double action. I would however, take a Sig 220 over anything!---------Hans
Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for Glocks, but the "only way it will discharge is by pulling the trigger" statement is true, but it doesn't imply that it's only a finger of the shooter pulling the trigger. I've read reports of accidental discharges due to the lack of a true safety, mostly during reholstering. I don't consider the trigger safety mechanism on the XDs a true safety either.

The XD and Glocks are so similar. They're practically identical. Same thing on the single action (no true double action, but not a true single action in that the firing pin block is moved by the trigger bar).

The XD has been proven to be extremely reliable and virtually indestructable as well. One point where the XD is without a doubt superior is the fully supported chamber. I've only see one example of a kaboom in an XD, but the Glocks chambered in .40 S&W are much more susceptible to them.

Read this article on the XD's torture test:
http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php


They're both great guns and when it came down to it, I bought the XD because it felt better in my hand and the grip angle felt more natural. My wife likes the Glock 26 better than the XD9 subcompact. I have an XD45 compact.

[Oatmeal]

Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for Glocks, but the "only way it will discharge is by pulling the trigger" statement is true, but it doesn't imply that it's only a finger of the shooter pulling the trigger. I've read reports of accidental discharges due to the lack of a true safety, mostly during reholstering. I don't consider the trigger safety mechanism on the XDs a true safety either.

The XD and Glocks are so similar. They're practically identical. Same thing on the single action (no true double action, but not a true single action in that the firing pin block is moved by the trigger bar).

The XD has been proven to be extremely reliable and virtually indestructable as well. One point where the XD is without a doubt superior is the fully supported chamber. I've only see one example of a kaboom in an XD, but the Glocks chambered in .40 S&W are much more susceptible to them.

Read this article on the XD's torture test:
http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php


They're both great guns and when it came down to it, I bought the XD because it felt better in my hand and the grip angle felt more natural. My wife likes the Glock 26 better than the XD9 subcompact. I have an XD45 compact.Not knocking the XD....it's a beautiful pistol, just defending my Glock :D besides, when I bought my Glock, there were no other "Plastic Fantastics" out there. I shot my buddy's H&K USP.....didn't care for it (felt "clunky"). Taurus just came out with a new polymer framed pistol that's gotten really good reviews (man, they've come a long ways from making S&W and Barretta clones!) I'm content with my ancient Glock (15 yrs now!) can't afford any new guns anyway.......sigh!--------Hans

[Oatmeal]

This one: http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=570&category=Pistol I think I would like it better in all black, though. Hmmm......like this one:http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=111&category=Pistol ------Hans

[jtkratzer]

Taurus came out with that PT1911 and it's received great reviews...a lot of features for the money. I've never shot one. I don't particularly care for the look of that Taurus you posted, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. They've made some nice stuff the last few years now that they're past their quality issues.

I don't suppose you carry that Glock living in the country you do. What model is it?

[Oatmeal]

Taurus came out with that PT1911 and it's received great reviews...a lot of features for the money. I've never shot one. I don't particularly care for the look of that Taurus you posted, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. They've made some nice stuff the last few years now that they're past their quality issues.

I don't suppose you carry that Glock living in the country you do. What model is it?Well, getting a concealed carry permit in Los Angeles county is just about impossible but, I have, on several occasions, had it "close at hand" when I've had to work in some of the more "questionable parts of L.A." And I never go on a road trip or enter a roadside rest stop bathroom, late at night without it, (hidden from view, of course.....there's a reason for that but, that's a long story). Oh, it's a Model 17 (9MM) loaded with Corbon 115gr +P hollow points. How's that old saying go......"it's better to be tried by twelve than to be carried by six". There are some dangerous people out there---------Hans

[jtkratzer]

Well, getting a concealed carry permit in Los Angeles county is just about impossible but, I have, on several occasions, had it "close at hand" when I've had to work in some of the more "questionable parts of L.A." And I never go on a road trip or enter a roadside rest stop bathroom, late at night without it, (hidden from view, of course.....there's a reason for that but, that's a long story). Oh, it's a Model 17 (9MM) loaded with Corbon 115gr +P hollow points. How's that old saying go......"it's better to be tried by twelve than to be carried by six". There are some dangerous people out there---------Hans

Well, isn't all of L.A. questionable? PA is cake walk to get a permit. My wife rented a Glock 17 at an indoor range and loved it. I've seen great performance on true flesh and blood experience with GoldDots in 9mm.

I understand the tried by 12 versus carried by 6 cliche, but at the same time, I won't carry in places I'm not allowed. Maryland is really bad on permits and I pretty much have to go through at least a part of it to get anywhere in the south. New Jersey and New York are both brutal as well. Delaware is no good, so other than Ohio, I'm surrounded by brutal states when it comes to gun laws. Once you're past Maryland though, it's mostly smooth sailing through Va and NC.

I don't want to mess around carrying where I'm not allowed and know that I'm bascially committing a felony, but I'm not getting caught. It's really no different than speeding or driving when you shouldn't after drinking, but felonies are a bit more serious. Just my personal preference, but then again, I carry because I can and I like being prepared, but the likelihood of me actually need to draw on someone is pretty unlikely. However, events seem to be happening more often that seem to be getting closer to home.

[GrimmJeeper]

Well, isn't all of L.A. questionable?

thats like saying isnt all of PA Amish. way to generalize something you know nothing about. :doh:

[jtkratzer]

thats like saying isnt all of PA Amish. way to generalize something you know nothing about. :doh:

It was sarcasm...and most of PA is amish outside of Pittsburgh and Philly. Every other area of the state you go to, you will see amish.

[GrimmJeeper]

It was sarcasm...and most of PA is amish outside of Pittsburgh and Philly. Every other area of the state you go to, you will see amish. i know my ill grandmother lives in the poconos, im out there 3 times a year. i guess sarcasm doesnt translate well through text ;)

:peace:

[jtkratzer]

i know my ill grandmother lives in the poconos, im out there 3 times a year. i guess sarcasm doesnt translate well through text ;)

:peace:

One of the downfalls of the internet. What part of the Poconos? I was up there over the summer a couple miles north of Greentown right off 507. Lost power for 21 hours, that was interesting.

[GrimmJeeper]

around saylorsburg... i cant remember the exit but its just off the 33.

[jtkratzer]

around saylorsburg... i cant remember the exit but its just off the 33.

I remember passing through there. We were about 50+ miles farther north across 507 from Lake Wallenpaupack.