LOGO

[rokclimbertx]

just wanted to throw out there that i have been working on a logo... hope to have some examples for critique soon...

i'd post one now but i started working under the assumption the chapter would encompass TX & LA... adding OK will require some changes...

[Mosephus]

Cool! I look forward to seeing it.

[Jeepxj94]

Cool stuff! Look forward to seeing it!

- Scott

[goodburbon]

Thank you, I had asked MrsGoodburbon to get to work on a few prototypes, but she got distracted and made us family T-shirts instead.

[rokclimbertx]

no problem... looking at the other chapters, i was thinking red/white/black plus blue maybe... fewer colors = cheaper for us if i'm not mistaken... trying to keep it simple...

[90Blue_XJ]

I think the logo is a fine project but the wording is a long was from being cast in stone yet. So work on something with an XJ on it but wording to be added when it is finalized.

[rokclimbertx]

easy enough to change when time somes...

[rokclimbertx]

update... adding arkansas has thrown a small monkey wrench in this project but i'll get it worked out in a day or so... just a bit of creative block...

[rokclimbertx]

ok guys.. here are some rough drafts... strictly preliminary... i'm not real happy with the middle of the tire and even less happy with the way the text (states) on the tire looks... trying for that BFG lettering look...

and comments constructive or whatever welcome...




http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogo2.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogo.jpg

[Jay VT]

ok guys.. here are some rough drafts... strictly preliminary... i'm not real happy with the middle of the tire and even less happy with the way the text (states) on the tire looks... trying for that BFG lettering look...

and comments constructive or whatever welcome...




http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogo2.jpg


Thats great! Maybe you could wrap the names like on a real tire? Awsome work:clap:

[BIgDaddyChia]

I like the second one. What about doing that with all 4 flags and then once a chapter name is decided we can put that in place.

[Dirt]

You're heading in the right direction. How about the four state picture as a background maybe?

I suck at creativity though. Are those about the colors you're wanting to use?

[Higgs98XJ]

if it isn't too much work, try making the tire 3D, spinning, with mud or dirt spraying out of the back. bag it if it sounds too complex

[Dirt]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/dirt2112/midsouth.gif

[rokclimbertx]

wow... good ideas everyone...

JayVT... getting the text to wrap at the right degree isn't too hard but getting the right font and bevel is a lot of hit & miss... like the simple TX LA example, i find it hard to read... but there's a combination that will work, just have to find it...

Big Daddy... i really like the idea of the state flags instead of text... look for that in the next versions...

Dirt... i've been looking for a good picture of the 4 state area to use which may replace the XJ in the middle... i have smaller XJ's to use like bullet points between text on the sidewall just to keep the jeep on there... edit: good map but i'll need one with better state borders but that's definitely on track... i give google images a work out tonite...

Higgs... great idea and definitely the toughest to get done but i like it and will experiment and see what happens...

gimme a few days/end of the week to get back with some revisions

[MetViper]

Great work. I like the wrapping of the text to curve with the tire better...

[Jeepxj94]

The second Logo is better, I think.

- Scott

[Kendrik]

I like the second one. What about doing that with all 4 flags and then once a chapter name is decided we can put that in place.

I definitely agree. Working the state flags was a great idea, so if we can get all 4 flags then I'd vote for that one in a heartbeat.

Or we could kick Oklahoma and Arkanasas out and stick with it as it is! ;)

[goodburbon]

I prefer the second one as well. Work the other flags and chapter names in there and I'm in.

[Kendrik]

I prefer the second one as well. Work the other flags and chapter names in there and I'm in.

Hmm...I'm having second thoughts about that. Has anyone SEEN the Arkansas and Oklahoma state flags? Yikes...

http://www.50states.com/flag/arflag.htm
http://www.50states.com/flag/okflag.htm

Not to bash anyone's state, but those flags just don't look like a WHOLE lot of thought went into them.

Maybe if we could take the symbols out of the LA, AR, and OK flags and overlay them onto the Texas Flag?

[Ecomike]

I think the Texas flag is quite unique as it was an indepent country before it joined the USA, so a lot more went into the Texas flag than the state flags ever got in general.

Four flags is probably going to be too busy, and quite frankly I am not sure I have ever even seen any other state flags that I even recall.

Just my opinion.

Great work and input going on here, sounds like we are going to have a great logo soon.

[rokclimbertx]

another problem with all 4 state flags will be the cost of getting more colors on the sticker/t-shirts, etc... so unfortunately i don't think the flags will make it to the final version...

but having the 4 state area map outline should also give the chapter instant recognition... plus not a lot of colors to deal with...

i'm hoping to get some time at work today or the next to get some extra work done on it as well as search some of our resources for material...

[Kendrik]

I think the Texas flag is quite unique as it was an indepent country before it joined the USA, so a lot more went into the Texas flag than the state flags ever got in general.

I actually think the LA flag is the coolest one, but that could just be from years of staring at it. ;)

I'm sure rokclimbertx will come up with something, considering how amazing his rough drafts turned out!

On a related note, this may be a bit premature, but has anyone looked into what it takes to get shirts, stickers, etc. printed with the logo? Personally, I think CafePress (http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/) is the best bet for our relatively low requirements. I would guess this is something the treasurer would manage, considering it involved financials.

[rokclimbertx]

i have a cafepress store already setup for my own designs but i'm sure we can find something in one of our locals that would be less expensive...

[Jay VT]

I'll check on where my local club gets theirs. We choose to go single color white or black vinyl to keep the expenses down (stupid trees rub them off anyway).

[BIgDaddyChia]

I have a local print shop i can go talk to.

[rokclimbertx]

i also found one locally, www.espdesigns.com i think is there website... t-shirts & stickers etc...

LOGO Update!!!
Stay tuned to your computers today, I'll be posting what I think will make everyone very happy...

[rokclimbertx]

Here's a teaser...
Oh and the website from above is www.esp-designs.com

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/LogoTease.jpg

[goodburbon]

Don't tease.

[rokclimbertx]

yeah, that's not right is it... ok... here are some more examples of a totally new design i think everyone will like... i have added a tiny bit more but haven't uploaded to photobucket yet... but you'll get the idea... background color is just to show it against different t-shirt colors...


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoWHTonBLU.jpg


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoREDonBLK.jpg


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBLKonWHT.jpg

[Jeepxj94]

I'm liking this! Nice Work!! Better than the other Logos.


- Scott

[goodburbon]

Like the red, hate the blue, B&W is pretty good.

[Jay VT]

That is great! I agree on the blue, a darker shade would be better.

[rokclimbertx]

Just a reminder... the blue, black & white backgrounds are just testing what logo colors work with different color t-shirts... there's a version with black text also that i apparently didn't upload...

i"m guessing we won't do red t-shirts so the states will most likely stay red with black text like this... should work for all colors except red & black...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBLKonRED.jpg

[goodburbon]

We'll want these available on Grey, white and Black T-shirts for sure. So I don't see any reason why all aren't acceptable.

Our window stickers will need to be a uniform color though.

[rokclimbertx]

ultimately i think having one logo that will work on those color shirts you mentioned is the best way to go... else we may incur extra costs if a second logo to accommodate certain color shirts is needed... and it may be necessary to not include either black or white shirts due to color elements

[Ramsey]

Red states eh? I'm not sure I want to be grouped with those guys.

[rokclimbertx]

how bout i darken it to maroon or lovely blood red for ya...

[Jay VT]

Crimson would be best, on a cream shirt.

Boomer Sooner!

[BIgDaddyChia]

Crimson would be best, on a cream shirt.

Boomer Sooner!

with a side of forfeit huh.

[Jay VT]

College football players are the best paid athletes, period. I don't care what school, somebody's getting paid.

[roxj]

College football players are the best paid athletes, period. I don't care what school, somebody's getting paid.

yeah its called a free education

oh yeah, im kinda partial to maroon and white. gig em!

[XJ6]

Not gonna get involved in a college colors discussion ... ain't there something in the bylaws about separation of college sports and NAXJA chapters :doh:


really like the latest logo

Mike
I really gotta get a useless sig

[Ecomike]

I like the added red underneath the jeep on this version, in other words this is the best version with out considering color. The Jeeps just look weird in the earlier versions with out the added color completing the circle underneath the jeeps.


Just a reminder... the blue, black & white backgrounds are just testing what logo colors work with different color t-shirts... there's a version with black text also that i apparently didn't upload...

i"m guessing we won't do red t-shirts so the states will most likely stay red with black text like this... should work for all colors except red & black...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBLKonRED.jpg

[rokclimbertx]

Ecomike... on that version, when i decided to add the chapter formation date below the jeep, the jeep needed a little nudge upwards to keep the text in line circular-wise with the chapter name area...

i agree it looks better than the previous 3 examples...

i think i'm gonna hold working on this until we have our chapter name finalized and chapter status is approved... i don't think there's gonna be much improved over the above version... it's all about colors now...

hope everyone agrees this version rocks and should be the final...

[Ecomike]

On the final one I think it would look even better if the Jeep was blue, instead of black. The white to black contrast on the jeep seems too bright, or maybe the Jeep outline is just not quite sharp enough (could even be just the computer monitor JPG/RGP display color/ resolution of the image...might look fine on a dull white T shirt. Don't know if a third color is an option.

Other than that, the entire thing looks great! Great Job!


Ecomike... on that version, when i decided to add the chapter formation date below the jeep, the jeep needed a little nudge upwards to keep the text in line circular-wise with the chapter name area...

i agree it looks better than the previous 3 examples...

i think i'm gonna hold working on this until we have our chapter name finalized and chapter status is approved... i don't think there's gonna be much improved over the above version... it's all about colors now...

hope everyone agrees this version rocks and should be the final...

[rokclimbertx]

the jeep outline is certainly not sharp enough... i'm using a cutout from a color photo then tweaking it to b/w... it's not great at all... i had no luck finding good free (or otherwise) cherokee line/clip/anything art... if anyone has or knows where i can get a better jeep to use, preferably in the same "pose" i'll gladly substitute...

that last example is a 2 color job that should be cheaper to have printed, sticker or t-shirt... and getting colors that will work for more t-shirt colors means some more experimenting... but still keeping the colors down to 2 or 3...

once we have the design agreed upon, then we can work on the exact colors we need...

[rms692]

check out www.socalxj.com they have a simple decal...

[rokclimbertx]

thanks RMS.. i took a look at theirs... it's close to what i'd like but i think something less hand drawn looking would match or fit into our logo a bit better...

Ecomike, i though about and made a blue and red jeep in the rough drafts but they just didn't fit visually in my opinion... if you or anyone would like to see those examples i'll gladly post some...

for now, here's an updated logo with some work done to the jeep... this will have 3 tshirt colors as background so you can see how it's gonna look... for the black & white tshirts it's a 3 color design (red, blue, white... red, blue, black respectively)... on the grey and others it'll be a 4 color design...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogo-1.jpg

[goodburbon]

I kinda like that, good contrast on all backgrounds.

[Kendrik]

I kinda like that, good contrast on all backgrounds.

Agreed. That looks really sharp!

[BigG]

The Jeep in the middle will be kind of hard to see on the black shirt though.

[goodburbon]

Good point! Could we see it on a pure black background? It may look really cool with only the white highlites, or it may look like crap.

[rokclimbertx]

here ya go... i dig just the highlites myself...


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBLKBGR.jpg

[rokclimbertx]

here's one requested the other day... dark red states...


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBLKBGRdkrdstates.jpg

[goodburbon]

here ya go... i dig just the highlites myself...


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBLKBGR.jpg



I think that kicks ass. The dark red version doesn't contrast quite enough.

[rokclimbertx]

another dark red version that pops... just an idea, but it would rule out white tshirts...



http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBLKBGRdkrdstates-1.jpg

[BigG]

here ya go... i dig just the highlites myself...


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBLKBGR.jpg
Looks much better than I thought it would. Very nice. The blue letters on red states doesn't contast quite right. Although the white on red looks good.

[Ecomike]

You might try a lighter shade of blue.

[rokclimbertx]

lighter shade of blue....

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoLTblue.jpg

[Ecomike]

Nice! I like the lighter shade of blue!

[goodburbon]

The problem with it is that it rules out the white t-shirt option and won't "pop" on a grey shirt.

[Ecomike]

It would work with the red letters used in the prior dark blue version.

[90Blue_XJ]

I like them all. I am so impressed with how well they look with the four states combined as a background.
My only suggestion would be to have the Jeep a completely different color that would set it apart from the surrounding black. Maybe yellow or orange would work. Since this is an XJ/MJ association the Jeep should be a major focus of the logo IMHO.

[rokclimbertx]

taking in both suggestions... not sure about the colored jeep... i think most will agree it just doesn't look as good as black... good point about the major focus though... i'll keep that in mind...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoBluRedRedJeep.jpg

[90Blue_XJ]

Lookin good

[rokclimbertx]

been tinkering with the colors a bit... seems like something that represents the "Red River Chapter" would be the right way to go so here's what i've come up with... red river colors...


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoFinal.jpg

the text is a bit more red/orange that came through here... states are more burnt orange... added a stroke to help text pop out... should work on any color t-shirts we choose... this works out to a 4 color design... hope everyone likes the changes...

[BigG]

been tinkering with the colors a bit... seems like something that represents the "Red River Chapter" would be the right way to go so here's what i've come up with... red river colors...


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoFinal.jpg

the text is a bit more red/orange that came through here... states are more burnt orange... added a stroke to help text pop out... should work on any color t-shirts we choose... this works out to a 4 color design... hope everyone likes the changes...
Oh, I like that! Nice and muddy! I suppose it would cost too much, but getting a "muddy" texture to the states would look great.

[90Blue_XJ]

Me likey. Me want T-shirts very soon. Lets do what we need to so we can get going on this thing.
I want a gray and a black T-shirt in XL for a total of two(2) shirts. Whose gonna handle this...........Oh I forgot we have a Treasurer/Recorder...........Hey Kendrik record my order and tell me where to send the paypal money. PM me.
Mike

[rokclimbertx]

i'll check with the place we just did a commercial for a few weeks ago... maybe he'll give the logo a look over to make sure it won't need any adjustments by a printer since they tend to charge for that sorta thing... and then get a quote to pass along to our treasurer...

i've been working on that muddy/grungy texture but it always tends to distort the states to the point of not recognizing them... i'll keep at that one for next time...

[Ramsey]

Looks good, matches the "red" river nicely.

[XJ6]

Looks great :yelclap: got to agree the colors fit "Red River Chapter"

time for shirts and stickers

[90Blue_XJ]

i'll check with the place we just did a commercial for a few weeks ago... maybe he'll give the logo a look over to make sure it won't need any adjustments by a printer since they tend to charge for that sorta thing... and then get a quote to pass along to our treasurer.....


So when do you think we can get a quote on these being printed and do we have to send the money in first so that we have a treasury to draw upon?
Let us know Kendrik.

[Kendrik]

So when do you think we can get a quote on these being printed and do we have to send the money in first so that we have a treasury to draw upon?
Let us know Kendrik.

Unless National makes a startup donation, we'll need to get some dollars in from everyone before we start putting together the logo stuff. Chances are we'll ask for donations up front to help cover some of the intial costs to get the printing setup, but we haven't discussed that, yet. As soon as we get the BOD and bylaws submitted and become "official" we'll get more details for you guys on the logo.

[Kendrik]

been tinkering with the colors a bit... seems like something that represents the "Red River Chapter" would be the right way to go so here's what i've come up with... red river colors...

<<SNIP>>

the text is a bit more red/orange that came through here... states are more burnt orange... added a stroke to help text pop out... should work on any color t-shirts we choose... this works out to a 4 color design... hope everyone likes the changes...

I REALLY like this one. It'll work on any shirt, and the colors pop without being blinding.

[Only In A Jeep XJ]

The light blue one makes a great avatar. The darker ones don't turn out as well.

[rokclimbertx]

another great use of the logo!

[rokclimbertx]

OK... Here's our final version of the logo with chapter formation date updated... i have the photoshop file sent to a screen printer here to check and make sure it will work for their purposes or if i need to clean up any of the images...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXLAlogoFINAL-1.jpg

[JTBOSCO]

Looks good guys,how many shirts are you thinking of making on the first run?
My company just bought several thousand dollars in shirts, I may be able to get a good deal from our t-shirt person. They made nice hoodies for us too.

Let me know.

[rokclimbertx]

appreciate that offer, i'm sure the BOD will keep that in mind as we move foward with the tshirts...

another note... after talking with the screen printer guy, i need to enlarge my logo file quite a bit and up the DPI (thought it was, my bad there)... this has me redoing the whole image which has been easy enough until i got to the jeep... i'm having to rework a different jeep image which i hope will work...

i'll update everyone with a new logo as soon as possible... it'll be 95% the same, just have to change the jeep...

[rokclimbertx]

here's the newest design i've come up with to comply with the printers suggestions... you'll notice only the jeep has changed... comments welcome...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXlogo300dpi.jpg

[Kendrik]

I really like it!

[goodburbon]

As do I.

[BigG]

The new XJ looks much better.

[XJ6]

Looks like you saved the best for last :laugh:

Nice work rokclimbertx :thumbup:

[90Blue_XJ]

Simply your best yet. I think it is superb.

[Jeepxj94]

This design is def my fav!

- Scot

[rokclimbertx]

believe me the XJ image work has been the hardest by far to this point... especially getting it down to just black & white, no grey... i have a few versions i've been working on, i'll throw them up soon and get some feedback on those... one may be better than the others...

glad everyone likes it!

[MetViper]

Love it.


here's the newest design i've come up with to comply with the printers suggestions... you'll notice only the jeep has changed... comments welcome...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/rokclimbertx/TXlogo300dpi.jpg

[JPFreek1]

Excellent job on the design! :cheers: