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soldwrangler
July 26th, 2006, 16:11
tried my loca autozone, advance, oreilys, westwood, and napa. no one has a lower raditor hose for a 91 xj with a spring in it. does anyone no who might have one

XJ5
July 26th, 2006, 16:18
Can you remove the one from your old hose and use that?

soccerdude
July 26th, 2006, 16:45
I had that same problem when I replaced mine a few months back. I thought about pulling the spring out of the old one, but it wasn't looking to good. It was a bit rusty.

RichP
July 26th, 2006, 16:46
Dealer should have it..

soldwrangler
July 26th, 2006, 16:50
the reason im replaceing it is because the hose was real soft in the middle, pulled it off and the spring it broke in half. got to diggin around on napaonline.com and found one with a spring for half the price of the one without the spring. thanks for the help though

Rev Den
July 26th, 2006, 17:13
Should tell you something...like it ain't needed. I replaced my hoses in my 90 twice now, and have never used a spring. You should not need it with quality hoses.

Rev

Atl XJ
July 26th, 2006, 17:43
Just go to the dealer, its not very expensive.

I've been buying most of my parts OEM lately. I'm tired of getting burned on crappy aftermarket parts, and for some reason on XJs, most of the parts at the dealership I deal with are pretty reasonably priced.

soldwrangler
July 26th, 2006, 18:09
the one with the spring was like 12 bucks the one without was 18

langer1
July 26th, 2006, 18:32
Any hose shop will sell you the spring, many after market and new OEM's mold the spring in the rubber where it can't rust or disturb water low.

1985xjlaredo
November 1st, 2006, 08:10
Seems the oem part is a pos cause it needs the spring in it.

Jeep914x4
November 1st, 2006, 08:21
I tossed the spring a long time ago myself when replacing my hoses. I couldn't get it stuffed into my new hose. I've had problems with it in certain situations, like when idling on a trail when the engine is hot.

I tried to get the one that napaonline lists but my local napa said they couldn't get it because it was discontinued.... Finally went to the dealer. $18

I haven't put it on yet but I hope it solves my small overheating issue.

Billfaceeee
November 1st, 2006, 08:55
The spring in the lower rad hose is to prevent it from rubbing and contact with your scolding hot powerstearing line's. Find a hose with the spring in it or use a heatcover for the portion that is either right over, or contacting the PS lines.

Jeep914x4
November 1st, 2006, 09:16
The spring in the lower rad hose is to prevent it from rubbing and contact with your scolding hot powerstearing line's. Find a hose with the spring in it or use a heatcover for the portion that is either right over, or contacting the PS lines.

I thought it was to keep it from getting sucked shut? I've actually seen mine sucked shut before....

1996cc
November 1st, 2006, 09:37
I thought it was to keep it from getting sucked shut? I've actually seen mine sucked shut before....

That is the original design reason for all hoses with springs in them.

1985xjlaredo
November 1st, 2006, 10:15
what about on the closed loop system? how could it suck shut then?

langer1
November 1st, 2006, 10:17
the reason im replaceing it is because the hose was real soft in the middle, pulled it off and the spring it broke in half. got to diggin around on napaonline.com and found one with a spring for half the price of the one without the spring. thanks for the help though

Newer lower Radiator hoses have the spring molded in the rubber, that way they don't rust away or slow water flow.

If you must have a spring, any Hydraulic Hose shop can sell it by the foot.

urban_offroader
November 1st, 2006, 10:33
Go to the dealer and get ready to pay about $30. Napa no longer carries the hose with the spring, but for some reason they still list the discontinued part number online.

The internal spring has nothing to do with the power steering lines. The hose should have an anti-chafing sleeve on the outside to prevent it from being damaged from rubbing against the steering box.

Jeep914x4
November 1st, 2006, 11:06
Newer lower Radiator hoses have the spring molded in the rubber, that way they don't rust away or slow water flow.

If you must have a spring, any Hydraulic Hose shop can sell it by the foot.

Not all of them! I've replaced mine twice since unknowingly tossing the spring. I bought one from NAPA and the other from Auto Zone. Neither one had the spring. I could squeeze them with my hand. After being used for a while, they were even easier to squeeze.

TiRod
November 1st, 2006, 12:17
The spring does keep the hose from being sucked shut. The 350 chev is a classic example. The problem is that the water pump will pull hard enough to suck the hose shut if the radiator is too clogged to flow freely. It's not the hose, it's lack of flow.

If you have the problem, the recommendation is buy a new radiator with at least one more core than you have. Then your clogged up block passages will be the next weak link in cooling.

Atl XJ
November 1st, 2006, 21:44
what about on the closed loop system? how could it suck shut then?
I don't see how closed vs open system would make any difference...