Oklahoma

[BIgDaddyChia]

I have requested to a BOD member that Oklahoma be included in our chapter formation. Well Actually said board member told me to do that.

[Ramsey]

I know the midwest probably will not want to give it up, but overlapping shouldnt be a problem.

[BIgDaddyChia]

n/m what i said I misunderstood what the person I was talking to said. However we may want to talk to the Midwest guys and see if they have many OK members.

[Jeepxj94]

Very INteresting!

-Scott

[goodburbon]

I was thinking about this and it may be better to "share" Oklahoma with the midwest, and "share" Louisiana with the SEC. Western Tx members may also find it more convenient to attend intermountain chapter events.

Problems arise because Texas is so damn big. 850 miles across is a long damn way. So basically while we call it the Texla chapter it will include louisiana, Texas, and anyone else who finds it more convient than any other chapter, (Arkansas, Oklahoma)

[BIgDaddyChia]

That would work for me Burbon. The Southwestern Xterra Club encompasses Texas mostly bu we have members in OK, and LA and used to have one in AR. However the boys out in El Paso ended up forming the West Texas Xterra Club because they were so far away.

[Rev Den]

The MWC has no OK members.

but we do have some in Oklahoma.

:D

Rev

[goodburbon]

What we'll do is keep the doors open to any member from any chapter who wants to participate in our activities, that way we won't have to negotiate any territorial conflicts. So while we will officially be Louisiana and Texas anyone close is welcome.

Having said that, if our membership dives we'll initiate a hostile takeover of Arkansas and Oklahoma to maintain Chapter status :D

[Jeepxj94]

Sounds good.

- Scott

[IntrepidXJ]

i doubt anyone in the MWC will miss OK

:roll:

:D

[goodburbon]

allow me to rephrase that

What I Propose we do is........


just call me lil' hitler. :D

[Jeepxj94]

Your Funny! No one could be lil' Hitler!! No one could be has twin!

- Scott

[XJ Eric]

i doubt anyone in the MWC will miss OK

:roll:

:D

I beg to differ. hehe I got my butt FLAMED:firedevil when I suggested a OK/TX chapter. I'm still recovering. I was scared of getting lynched!:hang:
But there have been a few changes in membership since then, it may come out differently this time.
check this out:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=85152

[goodburbon]

Several guys in red in those linked threads, any way we can run down our old members to let them know we've got interest now?

[XJ Eric]

Okie Terry was one of the biggest opponents to having OK join a Texas chapter, I heard a nasty rumor that terry isn't hanging around?

[goodburbon]

no he's out, now hangin out on his own board.

[XJ Eric]

he has his own board?

[goodburbon]

www.rockhardxj.com

[Ramsey]

dude dont tell the innies

[MetViper]

File 5's cool. He can hang out at RHXJ, if his skin is thick enough. ;)

[MetViper]

BTW, is Oklahoma going to be included, or what???? I like the guys in MWC, but all their gatherings are too far for me.

[XJ Dreamin']

Okies can join if they want to. It'd do 'em some good. Dual citizenship :D

[90Blue_XJ]

Haven't you ever heard that Oklahoma sucks, but thats good because it keeps Texas from floating out into the Gulf of Mex.

[srimes]

Haven't you ever heard that Oklahoma sucks, but thats good because it keeps Texas from floating out into the Gulf of Mex.

Ha! That's funny. Now if only we can teach Oklahoma to blow, then we'd all be better off.

[rckddy]

someone add arkansas to it please so maybe we can get some of my guys in here also thanks

[Kendrik]

I don't think we ever got an official reply from the MidWest Chapter BOD about allowing us to overlap. Who should we follow up with to get an answer to that?

[90Blue_XJ]

I don't think we ever got an official reply from the MidWest Chapter BOD about allowing us to overlap. Who should we follow up with to get an answer to that?

I would think that they may need to poll their membership from Ok before they can reply. I just made a big assumption that they have some members and that someone here has already got them looking into it. Me bad.

[goodburbon]

My understanding is that once we are actually a chapter we could work out a deal with Midwest to have overlapping territory and the members located therein could choose which chapter to be in.

at least thats what I hope will happen.

We can't just annex OK and many of the OK members want to be in the Midwest chapter.

[Kendrik]

I would think that they may need to poll their membership from Ok before they can reply. I just made a big assumption that they have some members and that someone here has already got them looking into it. Me bad.

Yeah, either Chia or Burbon dropped em a line a couple of weeks ago, but no response so far that I'm aware of. A membership poll would be a reasonable assumption as well, I'd think, but it'd be nice to at least hear a "we're discussing it" from someone over there.

Normally I'd say its not a big deal and something we could handle after the chapter is formed, but we have a qualified member for BOD who's technically outside our area so it might be useful to have that question answered so File 05 can run for office. :)

[MetViper]

My understanding is that once we are actually a chapter we could work out a deal with Midwest to have overlapping territory and the members located therein could choose which chapter to be in.

at least thats what I hope will happen.

We can't just annex OK and many of the OK members want to be in the Midwest chapter.

I'd rather be in a Texas/Louisiana chapter. All the MWC meet & geets are in like Chicago. If Texas/Louisiana ever got together at Clayton, it would be a lot more doable for me.

[90Blue_XJ]

I was told that you can join whichever chapter you want. I inquired since there was no Tx chapter at the time. I have been following the Co chapter for some time now. Sure glad we are getting something going here.

[goodburbon]

Yes you can join whichever chapter you like, even multiple chapters, but the physical area covered by chapters are set.

[90Blue_XJ]

Well I have just overstepped my bounds but I asked the MWC Prez to send us some decision pretty soon on sharing Ok membership with us. They state that most of their membership activities are located around Chicago so they are aware that it is difficult to impossible for the Ok members to be very active in the chapter. So if I have overstepped my bounds it was only in an effort to keep the ball rolling and to increase the member roles for the chapter.
Just got a PM that they are discussing it right now and they are favorably looking at letting us share the OK territory with them. We will have a decision by the morning. The MWC Prez is calling every BOD member on the phone this evening to get us a fast decision.

[seanR]

Oklahoma is yours, I don't know why anyone would want it;), but it is yours....
Unanimous vote by the MWC BOD.

[BIgDaddyChia]

sweet can we get a change in the forum title

[90Blue_XJ]

sweet can we get a change in the forum title

I would hope so. And Chia I did nominate you but we were posting at the same time.

[Ecomike]

Nice work!:cool:

[90Blue_XJ]

sweet can we get a change in the forum title

Who would handle that at the national level. I will be glad to contact them if I know who to contact. Do you know Brandon?

[Ecomike]

That kinda brings up an issue of what to change it to? I think listing the states is better, clearer, that doing something like south central chapter, especially this early.

Are there any real objections to adding Oklahoma?

[Ecomike]

That kinda brings up an issue of what to change it to? I think listing the states is better, clearer, than doing something like south central chapter, especially this early.

Are there any real objections to adding Oklahoma?

[Ramsey]

The more the merrier. Our name is the last thing we need to worry about.

[red91]

The more the merrier. Our name is the last thing we need to worry about.


Ramseys' Hell seems apropriate.

:D

[MetViper]

The more the merrier. Our name is the last thing we need to worry about.

x2

[goodburbon]

excellent, I was under the impression that there was a big fight over Oklahoma a while back.

[Kendrik]

Thats great to hear! Thanks mikeforte and SeanR! Alright, Okies, I'll add you to Google map shortly. ;)

[90Blue_XJ]

excellent, I was under the impression that there was a big fight over Oklahoma a while back.

I had the time to spend so I bugged the hell out of Sean to get an answer ASAP. He got all their BOD on the phone to get us an answer immediately so I'd leave him alone I guess. That kinda was what I thought we wanted, an answer so we could move on. Hope I'm not in any trouble!

[Kendrik]

Thats great to hear! Thanks mikeforte and SeanR! Alright, Okies, I'll add you to Google map shortly. ;)

Well, I'll add you as soon as you post to the "Whats your 20" thread with your location, at least.

Yes, I'm talking to myself...it happens alot...

[90Blue_XJ]

Well, I'll add you as soon as you post to the "Whats your 20" thread with your location, at least.

Yes, I'm talking to myself...it happens alot...

If you were talking to yourself about me I'm post # 54 I think on the "Wheres your 20" thread. I have Google earth but it won't open the file so I can't check to see if I'm there or not.
Mike

[Kendrik]

If you were talking to yourself about me I'm post # 54 I think on the "Wheres your 20" thread. I have Google earth but it won't open the file so I can't check to see if I'm there or not.
Mike

Nope, I've got all the current 20 posts. I just need the Oklahoma guys to post to that thread now that they are officially invited to the party. :)

[90Blue_XJ]

Nope, I've got all the current 20 posts. I just need the Oklahoma guys to post to that thread now that they are officially invited to the party. :)

Just a suggestion but you may be able to contact MetViper or even Sean may have a list of Ok members who are or were part of the MWC. Met can prolly tell you who from there is on his site anyways.

[Ecomike]

Mikeforte,

Don't know if I am stepping any toes here (let us know if I am please), but since you have some time and contacts already, would you be interested in gathering the regular email addresses, phone numbers and snail mail addresses of members, users and potential members of the chapter. Would ential contacting national to see what they will and can share with us as well. I don't think anyone is working real hard a complete list yet. Would also entail putting them all in to something like Excel that the BOD could all use and share easily.

Any sugestions from you PC software gurus as to what to use other than Excel?


Just a suggestion but you may be able to contact MetViper or even Sean may have a list of Ok members who are or were part of the MWC. Met can prolly tell you who from there is on his site anyways.

[90Blue_XJ]

Would be happy to do that but will need at least a couple of national people to contact. The only national contact I ever had was with Woody and Ghost about membership IIRC.
I could just make a list using word perfect or some other word program and then e-mail it to whomever becomes the BOD. I'm by no ones stretch a computer guy but do have some time to devote to this project.



Mikeforte,

Don't know if I am stepping any toes here (let us know if I am please), but since you have some time and contacts already, would you be interested in gathering the regular email addresses, phone numbers and snail mail addresses of members, users and potential members of the chapter. Would ential contacting national to see what they will and can share with us as well. I don't think anyone is working real hard a complete list yet. Would also entail putting them all in to something like Excel that the BOD could all use and share easily.

Any sugestions from you PC software gurus as to what to use other than Excel?

[Ecomike]

Wordperfect is probably not a great choice. One us here should be able to come up with a free download program, maybe in html that would be easy to share and pass on to those who need to use it for official business from time to time.

What operating system are you using?

Maybe one of our national guys already doing this has the perfect answer?

What about seanR? Or have you worn out your welcome there with the Oklahoma coo, LOL?



Would be happy to do that but will need at least a couple of national people to contact. The only national contact I ever had was with Woody and Ghost about membership IIRC.
I could just make a list using word perfect or some other word program and then e-mail it to whomever becomes the BOD. I'm by no ones stretch a computer guy but do have some time to devote to this project.

[90Blue_XJ]

Not too sure about how Sean would recieve my intrusion again. Willing to try though. Worst he can do is to ignoe me.
Who was it that contacted the national guys to get this whole thing going in the first place? They probably have more of a rapore with someone at that level than do I.
As far as Excel or anything like that, I have no experience but I think my wife does. I'll ask her tonight. She is not to enthused with me spending even more time on the 'puter. We shall just have to see what happens on that front. I am familiar with the word programs because I used them while working on my masters degree to write several papers, but that was years ago in the 80s.


Wordperfect is probably not a great choice. One us here should be able to come up with a free download program, maybe in html that would be easy to share and pass on to those who need to use it for official business from time to time.

What operating system are you using?

Maybe one of our national guys already doing this has the perfect answer?

What about seanR? Or have you worn out your welcome there with the Oklahoma coo, LOL?

[Kendrik]

http://docs.google.com has a fully functional and free spreadsheet program thats entirely web-based that would be reasonable.

The only reason I haven't pursued more complete contact information as part of the Google Earth map was that I figured most folks wouldn't be confortable providing those details to a relative stranger. I assumed once we hand an official secretary that they could handle the collection detail as folks might feel better about giving out that sort of information to an "official".

That said, I'd happily compile this data in any format requested...I am one of those computer guru's that Ecomike mentioned earlier. :)

[90Blue_XJ]

http://docs.google.com has a fully functional and free spreadsheet program thats entirely web-based that would be reasonable.

The only reason I haven't pursued more complete contact information as part of the Google Earth map was that I figured most folks wouldn't be confortable providing those details to a relative stranger. I assumed once we hand an official secretary that they could handle the collection detail as folks might feel better about giving out that sort of information to an "official".

That said, I'd happily compile this data in any format requested...I am one of those computer guru's that Ecomike mentioned earlier. :)

Then by all means you have the job if you will take it. Noone is going to wrestle you for it I'd bet. As for the personal info I agree but if the rules were ammended to allow you to become, at the very least, interim secretary then you would be official. I would not want to see that personal info up on the Google Earth program either but as long as it is kept by the secretary, then that would be fine in my opinion.
Anybody got a problem with that suggestion???

[Ecomike]

I am one of those gurus as well, but Kendrick is a lot more up to date (like Google earth) than I am. I suggest we all PM him with whatever info we are willing to or feel safe passing on at this time, like direct email addresses for those of us who may not check the Naxja forum daily.

[Kendrik]

I am one of those gurus as well, but Kendrick is a lot more up to date (like Google earth) than I am. I suggest we all PM him with whatever info we are willing to or feel safe passing on at this time, like direct email addresses for those of us who may not check the Naxja forum daily.

I'll happily collect any information I receive and pass it on to the official secretary at such time as one is elected. I think real name and email address are probably all we really need, with further details provided at everyone's whim.

[90Blue_XJ]

PM sent.

[Ralph]

Oklahoma? Aw geez, do we have to? As for the name. I think Texas Chapter says it all. If those okies and coon asses don't like it, let them go play with them yankees up in Chicago.

http://www.theinmatelocator.com/images/texas_flag.jpg

[90Blue_XJ]

Oklahoma? Aw geez, do we have to? As for the name. I think Texas Chapter says it all. If those okies and coon asses don't like it, let them go play with them yankees up in Chicago.

http://www.theinmatelocator.com/images/texas_flag.jpg


SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE TEXAN...PROUD AND UP FRONT......NOT P C AT ALL.

[XJ6]

Texas, Louisiana and Oklahoma ........ seems a lot closer to Arkansas than the things that go on in Chicago with the MidWest chapter and I know I've seen some of you guys at Hot Springs, soooooooo is Arkansas possibly going to be included in this new chapter - if so I'd like to switch chapters, MidWest won't miss me as I've never even posted there - seems to be another world being so far away. If Arkansas is included I'll be sure to pass the word at Superlift ORV park in Hot Springs. BTW I live in Little Rock, my XJ is '96 with 4.0, AW4, 242tc, about 3.5" lift, 31s, still open with 355:1 gears.

Mike

[Ralph]

Texas, Louisiana and Oklahoma ........ seems a lot closer to Arkansas than the things that go on in Chicago with the MidWest chapter and I know I've seen some of you guys at Hot Springs, soooooooo is Arkansas possibly going to be included in this new chapter - if so I'd like to switch chapters, MidWest won't miss me as I've never even posted there - seems to be another world being so far away. If Arkansas is included I'll be sure to pass the word at Superlift ORV park in Hot Springs. BTW I live in Little Rock, my XJ is '96 with 4.0, AW4, 242tc, about 3.5" lift, 31s, still open with 355:1 gears.

Mike
You can be a member of any chapter you want.

[Kendrik]

You can be a member of any chapter you want.

Yup. Though we can't use your membership as one of our 15 "required" members for charter, once we've established you're welcome to the party. :)

[roxj]

since we are starting to get so much interest from tx, la, ar, and ok, maybe we should consider making this the mid south chapter. of course, we can put a clause in the by laws that will let any state with x number of members and a majority vote succede(sp) in order to form their own chapter.

[Ecomike]

Didn't we try that during the Civil War?:jester:

Mid South or South Central would probably be allright.

I think we should cool it on adding states at this point lest the national guys start to think we are working on a coup to take over the national chapter. But I would not appose it.

I agree, there is no reason the south Arkansas guys should be excluded, or even someone in New Mexico that lives near the Texas border.

The issue we should discuss right now is if they can vote and hold office?

My suggestion is that if they live close enough to this area, and select this as their chapter, that they should be allowed full local chapter previlages as long as they are national XJ paid members and officially select this as their chapter.

Since Texas is the central state to this effort, I would think that we want officers that live in Texas or close enough to The Texas boarder to make travel to Texas and boarder state areas a non issue. For instance I think I would oppose election of a chapter president that lived all the way in New Orleans, Brownsville or El Paso. It is just too far away, unless it was someone with nothing better to do, who owned five jeeps in every state, and flew his jeeps around in his own private cargo party1: jets.

since we are starting to get so much interest from tx, la, ar, and ok, maybe we should consider making this the mid south chapter. of course, we can put a clause in the by laws that will let any state with x number of members and a majority vote succede(sp) in order to form their own chapter.

[Dirt]

Arkansas should be in this chapter as well. At least then we might get some wheeling here. The MWC is cool and all but... Arkansas has some of the roughest terrain in the country and no one wheels here. It doesn't end at Hot Springs either.

You should call the chapter the Mid-South Chapter.

If you don't include AR/OK where will you guys wheel? New Orleans? :D

Sorry if I didn't read the entire thread. I'll try to stay on top of this one.

[90Blue_XJ]

Arkansas should be in this chapter as well. At least then we might get some wheeling here. The MWC is cool and all but... Arkansas has some of the roughest terrain in the country and no one wheels here. It doesn't end at Hot Springs either.

You should call the chapter the Mid-South Chapter.

If you don't include AR/OK where will you guys wheel? New Orleans? :D

Sorry if I didn't read the entire thread. I'll try to stay on top of this one.

Didn't notice you were from Arkansas. MWC may not be willing to give you guys up. They may want to come down from Chicago to wheel in the Ozarks with you guys.
NAXJA may draw the line at letting us aquire another state. It has been pointed out they may think we are trying to take over, but we know its way too much work. We don't want to have to work THAT hard.

[Dirt]

Honestly, if they were going to wheel the Ozarks...they would've done it by now. Hot Springs (orvpark on here) has extended his hospitality on here before to no real avail.

[ExTankerGuy]

Honestly, if they were going to wheel the Ozarks...they would've done it by now. Hot Springs (orvpark on here) has extended his hospitality on here before to no real avail.

Which is sad. Hot Springs if my favorite wheelin' spot...

[seanR]

Hi guys, I have been lurking here and the other threads...
Good job so far!
Keep up the good work.
As far as OK members, Okie Terry was the only Okie that associated with the MWC, honestly, he and Val were the only reason we incorporated OK into the MWC.
They had attended some events and were already 'one of us'.

As far as a list on members from OK, two choices:
1) Check the members roster, (http://sponsorship.naxja.org/20061110-memberroster.htm) there is a list of member and state resided in. I think you could even cut and paste the whole thing into an Excel doc. and manipulate it as needed.
2)Get a hold of Glenn Fulmer(Ghost) he is current membership guy, he may help you also.

Don't worry so much about each and everyones address and such, IMHO, you are complicating things, making it to difficult.
Remember, K.I.S.S.!

[Rattman]

I know this thread hasn't been posted to in a few weeks, but a chapter closer to home would help me change my screen name to red. Can we leave the OU fans in the MWC, I know there are alot of them, but I don't like them. Maybe we could trade them for some illegals, there english would be better. Seriously this could be cool with some things that don't seem to all take place around the great lakes.

[Kendrik]

I know this thread hasn't been posted to in a few weeks, but a chapter closer to home would help me change my screen name to red. Can we leave the OU fans in the MWC, I know there are alot of them, but I don't like them. Maybe we could trade them for some illegals, there english would be better. Seriously this could be cool with some things that don't seem to all take place around the great lakes.

Put down the cash then, cuz as of 3 days ago, the Red River chapter is official, and includes Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. :)

[Rattman]

Kendrik Since you are on line right now, how can I pay I don't have a paypal account. Can I send a money order or something. I could open a paypal account, but don't want to if I don't have to.

[Rattman]

Nevermind I found the info to mail a check, I should have read the whole announcement on membership.

[Kendrik]

Awesome! Welcome to the party, Rattman!

[90Blue_XJ]

Rattman,
Glad to have you on board. Another red screen name is always welcome. Also glad you found that mailing address because I, for one, forgot it was there to tell you where to look.
Mike

[MetViper]

Wow, that makes like 4 whole people in OK, now.....

[srimes]

I just moved to Skiatook (near tulsa) last thursday! So now it's a handful

[90Blue_XJ]

I just moved to Skiatook (near tulsa) last thursday! So now it's a handful

You were already being counted as an Arkansasian or whatever they are called now I guess you are an Oklahomo or whatever they are called.

[MetViper]

...I guess you are an Oklahomo or whatever they are called.

Hey hey hey, watch it, Texass boy! :moon:

[90Blue_XJ]

Hey hey hey, watch it, Texass boy! :moon:
I've always heard that Oklahoma sucks but that is a good thing because it keeps TEXAS from floating out into the Gulf of Mexico.

I always watch my back so I don't get surprized by a Viper.

[MetViper]

I've always heard that Oklahoma sucks but that is a good thing because it keeps TEXAS from floating out into the Gulf of Mexico.

I always watch my back so I don't get surprized by a Viper.

That's odd, cuz I was told its always windy in Oklahoma cuz Texas sucks and Kansas blows.....

[90Blue_XJ]

That's odd, cuz I was told its always windy in Oklahoma cuz Texas sucks and Kansas blows.....
Wind in Oklahoma is caused by the residents hot air. Every Texan knows that. LOL.

[BIgDaddyChia]

Ok Mike and Viper thats enough

[MetViper]

Fine......

The funny part is I only live in OK, I'm from Montana!!! :jester:

[90Blue_XJ]

Fine......

The funny part is I only live in OK, I'm from Montana!!! :jester:
Montana ain't that where Brokeback Mountain is? ? ?

[90Blue_XJ]

Ok Mike and Viper thats enough

Just having fun Daddy. No harm no foul.

[MetViper]

Montana ain't that where Brokeback Mountain is? ? ?

OH hell no! That non-hetero stuff belongs to Wyoming....