Who is eligible

[goodburbon]

To run for a Chapter BOD position.

(minimum 1 year as a member)

Myself
Ramsey


Who else? More importantly who is willing to take on one of these positions of responsibility.

I know I could look at each of your profiles, but that would involve a lot of clicking.

Second question we need to answer here is; Do we need a 3 member panel (combine secretary and treasurer) or a 4 member panel

At this time, with our small population I see no need for a 4th member, what say the rest of you?

[Jeepxj94]

I'm ready!


- Scott

[Kendrik]

FYI: It looks like Arizona changed the Chapter rules regarding membership length to hold office. So, if we're short of folks with the "time served" to hold office, we could re-write the By-Laws to allow short-timers to hold office.

[goodburbon]

good point, our bylaws aren't written yet :D

[Ramsey]

Yeah but who wants a bunch of noobs runnings things :D

[seanR]

Yeah but who wants a bunch of noobs runnings things :D
Who would want YOU running things?

[Ramsey]

Don't knock it till you try it, if running a club is anything like hooking up with fat chicks I'm golden.

[XJ Eric]

I'm willing to help in anyway I can. I'd really love to be a part of the inner workings of this chapter as much as I can from the northern sections of Texas. Although I don't think I'd able to be a member of the BOD since I'm so far out here, but anything else I can do I'd love to pitch in!

[goodburbon]

If we pull this off we will have an event in Clayton and I think that we would need an event coordinator in the area.

[XJ Eric]

Thats about 4 hours from me, so I'll do as much as I can. I'll probly pick the brains of Extankerguy, he's been there a bunch of times and I still haven't.

[goodburbon]

Is that everyone who is eligible?

[Ecomike]

I would suggest that we consider waving the one year membership requirement in the bylaws for the first year while we are getting this chapter started. Then once the chapter is a year old, hopefully there will be a few more standing members with at least a year of tenure to run for the board.

That is if we are short handed on 1 year+ members. ???

I would rather have people that are willing, able, motivated, and have the time to see this first year through, than be worried about whether or not they had been a member for 12 months or 9 months.:sunshine:

[XJ Dreamin']

I've got more than 1 year, but I'd have to say that I am lacking in the 'able' category. Just too much chit going on already.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the chapter, though.

[Ecomike]

I've got more than 1 year, but I'd have to say that I am lacking in the 'able' category. Just too much chit going on already.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the chapter, though.

It would be wise to have an odd number of directors on the Board (BOD), in order to break a tie vote, even if the third director was just a back up for tie votes, or one that could not offer as much time and effort as the others.

From the looks of things, we realy need more than one director, two directors can be a fatal error when and if they bump heads, and I doubt we could find 5 right now that are willing, able and elligable, so I suggest we go with three for now as the chapter minimum and leave room in the bylaws for adding 2 more when the chapter gets big enough to need 2 more.

[goodburbon]

I agree with that suggestion.

[woodbutcher]

what do you have to do to join .
Sean

[BIgDaddyChia]

Look above there is an announcment on how to join

[goodburbon]

OK so there are a few of us eligible for the BOD.

The following four members are qualified as far as I know, please correct me if I am wrong or have missed anyone.

Goodburbon
Ramsey
Jeepxj94
File 05

A few of the above mentioned parties have mentioned that they do not have time to commit or are to far removed from our central membership, myself included. That said, given the current status of our fledgling chapter, I will willingly serve if called upon.

I move that we establish a 3 man BOD with President, VP and Secretary.

I will note that we may need to appoint volunteers at some point to help us, but for the time being to keep this ship smooth and trim there will only officially be a 3 man BOD.

Now we need to decide who will hold what position.

[Ramsey]

Sounds good. What will each position entail?

[90Blue_XJ]

I have ben a NAXJA user for several years but not a member for very long. But am willing to do whatever I can to help. That being said, I suggest the BOD be spread out. In other words not all from Houston or Dallas or New Orleans, you get the picture. That way there is no regional bias about events being held only in one area. Tx/La is a pretty big territory so we should not regionalize it any further.

[goodburbon]

I was thinking along those lines as well, since a BOD member should attend each event, but we were a bit limited on eligible members to choose from. You aren't too late, and your join date says june of 2005 which qualifies you for BOD Mikeforte.

With the addition of Mikeforte into the mix It looks like we actually can have elections if we deem it necessary.

Should we do this like all the other chapters and open a nominations thread and take it from there?

[Kendrik]

You aren't too late, and your join date says june of 2005 which qualifies you for BOD Mikeforte.

Negative. His join date only tells you when he joined the forums, not when he became a paid member. Since the vote was that only PAID members for 1 year could run for office, he's out, unless we decide to ignore the vote and allow members with 6 months of paid time to run and he's up to the 6 month mark. Personally, thats what I voted for in the first place, as I think we're too short on 1 year members to make that a reasonable rule, but I got out-voted. :)

[90Blue_XJ]

So just like I said I have been a user for years but a paid member for less than a year. If I am allowed to run for BOD then I would be happy to run. Just keep me in the loop via PM.
Mike

[Ecomike]

Shucks, that takes all the fun out of it, I was hoping to have 3 BODs, one each from El Paso, New Orleans, and Brownsville. Opps, I forgot Amarillo.......

Seriously, there is no reason (short of willing, eligable candidates) that we can't have a 5 member board that is more spread out and doing most of the official business online, just like the National guys must be doing. That way there is someone in place in each regional area to try and get local activities and local membership built up and to more easily officiate any local events.

How do we tell when someone actually started paying dues?

I have ben a NAXJA user for several years but not a member for very long. But am willing to do whatever I can to help. That being said, I suggest the BOD be spread out. In other words not all from Houston or Dallas or New Orleans, you get the picture. That way there is no regional bias about events being held only in one area. Tx/La is a pretty big territory so we should not regionalize it any further.

[90Blue_XJ]

So just like I said I have been a user for years but a paid member for less than a year. If I am allowed to run for BOD then I would be happy to run. Just keep me in the loop via PM.
Mike

The only PayPal charge I can find is from April of this year but I think that was for Stickers and such. Can't think of another way to check. I mostly pay for thing like memberships with Money Orders but throw away the stub when the membership packet arrives. Maybe it was as recently as April. Does not alter the offer to run if I'm allowed to, or serve in whatever capacity will benefit the chapter.

[seanR]

Acording to thew national by-laws, these are the duties of the officers....
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President
shall serve as the Chairman of the Board of Directors, and shall preside over all Board of Directors activities.
Vice President
shall keep himself fully informed concerning the business of the Corporation with the active assistance of the other Officers and, in the event of the absence or temporary disability of the President or a vacancy in the office of President, shall assume and carry out the duties and responsibilities of the President. The Vice President shall also perform such other duties as may from time to time be assigned to him/her by the President or by the Board of Directors.
Recorder
The Recorder shall keep records of all voting activity and a log of all Motions as part of permanent NAXJA records. These records shall be maintained for a period of at least five (5) years. Also Responsible for ascertaining that a complete record is kept of all activities of the Corporation. In carrying out this duty, he/she shall cooperate with and supervise the performance of the Corporation’s Internet web site host and Internet Service Provider, in order to ensure that legally required and necessary records of the Corporation’s activities are maintained in such manner as to survive electronic error and/or failure. The Recorder shall further act as the Agent of Record for the Corporation and shall ensure that all filings, reports, and other documents and papers necessary to the maintenance of the Corporation’s legal standing are submitted to the appropriate authorities in a timely fashion.
Treasurer
shall have the care and custody of all funds of the Corporation. He/she shall receive all monies, pay all bills, and keep true and accurate accounting of all monies received and dispersed. He/she shall, at the conclusion of each fiscal year of the Corporation, render to the Board of Directors a full and complete written statement of the condition of the Corporation, as well as of all monies received and dispersed during the period covered by the report. He/she shall sign such contracts, documents or instruments in writing as required, and shall have such other powers and duties as may be assigned from time to time by the Board of Directors or as incident to his/her office.
The Directors will be directors at large and will take on duties as needed throughout the course of their term.

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These are cut from the by-laws, the chapter by-laws state only a Pres, V.P. and Treasurer are required.

Simpliy,
The Pres presides over the meeing and keeps things on track and the discussion moving along.

The V.P. acts as the "supervisor" making sure the business gets done. The V.P. is that teacher that stood over shoulder in Jr High seeing what you were doing. Th V.P. needs to know what the curent business of the club is, who is doing what, and is it getting done.

The Recorder keeps the records of the club, tallys votes, makes sure all of the leagle paperwork is done, and makes sure all of the club documents are accounted for.

The Treasurer counts the money, makes sure that the bills are paid and everything is accounted for.

Directors are the "voice of the people" they are the "house and senate" if you will, there votes are the ones that realy count, if the officers of the club want to do something they must convince the dirctors to vote accordingly. The dirctors also are assigned "special" tasks, like land use person, or events person, membership person, even a web person, what ever special jobs come around, they are assigned to directors.
I STRONGLY recomend you come up with your own by-laws and adopt then. Cut and paste these up if you want.
To speed things up, adopt the national by-laws as your own and write some when you have time.

Hope this helps

[90Blue_XJ]

SeanR, Do the directors have to be officers or at large members or what? Do they have to have been paying members for a year too or just the officers? Sorry but I can't seem to find that info in the bylaws.

[ExTankerGuy]

I think that I am eligible as well...:eyes:

[Ecomike]

SeanR, Do the directors have to be officers or at large members or what? Do they have to have been paying members for a year too or just the officers? Sorry but I can't seem to find that info in the bylaws.

From what I have read (been told here) that is actually up to us, since we have not created our bylaws yet. In other words we can make those rules (by-laws) for the chapter right now, and decide the answers to most of those questions ourselves. So far we have had one poll on the length of paid membership required to be elligable for office. As I see it now, I think we should go for a larger Board (BOD) than just 3, and have the 3 officers as members of the BOD but add say 2 or 4 more paid NAXJA members to spread out the availabilty of board members to serve as officials at local gatherings since we are so spread out. Also, the more Board members we have, the more likely we are to get this chapter up and running succesfully, as it will help distribute the work load better.

In addition, I suggest that we expand elligabilty for the BODs to any paid members period, just for the first year of the new chapter, then select them based on their experience, interest and available time and commitment. Then the 5 or 7 with the most votes become directors of the board (BOD members). We could have two elections, one for officers, and then one for additional BOD members at large, for 2 to 4 more BOD members since the officers will also BOD members.

If that is too extreeme for some here, then perhaps having joined (versus paid) at least 6 (or maybe 12) months ago would be enough to run for the BOD?

[goodburbon]

, I think we should go for a larger Board (BOD) than just 3, and have the 3 officers as members of the BOD but add say 2 or 4 more paid NAXJA members to spread out the availabilty of board members to serve as officials at local gatherings since we are so spread out. Also, the more Board members we have, the more likely we are to get this chapter up and running succesfully, as it will help distribute the work load better.

In addition, I suggest that we expand elligabilty for the BODs to any paid members period, just for the first year of the new chapter, then select them based on their experience, interest and available time and commitment. Then the 5 or 7 with the most votes become directors of the board (BOD members). We could have two elections, one for officers, and then one for additional BOD members at large, for 2 to 4 more BOD members since the officers will also BOD members.


I think we need to keep the BOD to a minimum for now so that we can streamline the process instead of involving 25% of our membership as BOD The more BOD the slower it will move. As to your second point I completely agreed but It has already been put to a vote and for us to ignore that vote would invalidate any other vote we have because the precedent has been set.

[goodburbon]

Ok we have 5 or 6 members who meet the time in service qualifications. My questions are;

Do we need to have nominations?
Should we hold elections?
Does anyone eligible wish to withdraw their name from the list?


I started to make a nominations thread, but these questions need to be answered first.

[Kendrik]

I think we need to keep the BOD to a minimum for now so that we can streamline the process instead of involving 25% of our membership as BOD The more BOD the slower it will move. As to your second point I completely agreed but It has already been put to a vote and for us to ignore that vote would invalidate any other vote we have because the precedent has been set.

I agree on both points. Lets move forward with what we've got. We'll have plenty of time to make amendments, etc. to the by-laws once we get an actual chapter formed.

[Kendrik]

Ok we have 5 or 6 members who meet the time in service qualifications. My questions are;

Do we need to have nominations?
Should we hold elections?
Does anyone eligible wish to withdraw their name from the list?


I started to make a nominations thread, but these questions need to be answered first.

My suggestion is that the eligible members nominate themselves for the positions they feel qualified to take on. If only a single eligible member is nominated for a position then no election is held and that person is appointed. If more than one member nominates for a position, we hold an election for that position. That keeps it simple but still allows a democratic process of sorts.

[90Blue_XJ]

My suggestion is that the eligible members nominate themselves for the positions they feel qualified to take on. If only a single eligible member is nominated for a position then no election is held and that person is appointed. If more than one member nominates for a position, we hold an election for that position. That keeps it simple but still allows a democratic process of sorts.

Good idea..................Now who is going to declare for which office?
Don't be shy. Everyone who seems to be elgible step right up. You know what you each want so lets hear it.

[goodburbon]

I nominate Ramsey as VP cuz I dont trust that arab in the pilots seat. :D

[90Blue_XJ]

Well then I nominate Ecomike as Prez and I nominate goodburbon as Secretary treasurer. Howz dat???

[goodburbon]

nice, but even though Ecomike is motivated and the kind of person we want, he isn't eligible as a result of our vote.

[BIgDaddyChia]

Damn I got this moving and no one wants to nominate me sheesh

[90Blue_XJ]

nice, but even though Ecomike is motivated and the kind of person we want, he isn't eligible as a result of our vote.

Can't nominate you for Prez your wife would doesn't want you to be Prez. (posted on here somewhere) So who does that leave? I think Chia would be a good Prez. Anyone else got a desire for office?

Chia we posted at the same time. Sorry!!!!

[Ramsey]

I nominate Ramsey as VP cuz I dont trust that arab in the pilots seat. :D
sounds good to me

[Ramsey]

I nominate Brandon {goodbourbon} for president.

[90Blue_XJ]

I nominate Brandon {goodbourbon} for president.

Thought I saw somewhere that goodburbon's wife did NOT want him to be Prez. Don't want any domestic strife over this. I also have nominated Chia for Prez so now we have two nominees for Prez, one for VP and if goodburbon is gonna run for Prez then we still need a Sec/Tres nominee. Anyone want that position who is elgible. BTW we now have Oklahoma so those members can be included in the mix. That should increase the number of elgible people.

[Ecomike]

I would like to hear some input from all the qualified, willing, candidates as to their qualifications, vision for the chapter, available time, etc. and what position they are willing to fill, including some we have heard little from so far, like extankerguy?

Also, on the bylaws issue, let me remind everyone that this is not a chapter, until we have bylaws, officers, a BODs, and then we still need to submit same to the national BODs, and get their blessing. After all that, then we have a chapter. Not before.

Call me paranoid, but I think it is a mistake to delegate the writing of the bylaws to just 3 people. Some have commented here that we can modify the bylaws later, but that is only true if the adopted bylaws allow future modification.

Like I said, call me paranoid, I do paronoid work for living and the idea of turning over the writing of the bylaws to a stated terrorist (should he get elected) just scares the h$ll out of me!:rolleyes: LOL.

Yes Ramsey, I am exagerating (but hopefully so are you), but I am trying to make a valid point. What concerns me so far I guess is that too many seem to be willing to let someone else handle the details, like the bylaws. I think the bylaws are too important for us to delegate them away just for expediancy. They should at least, in part, be a reflection of who and what we want this chapter to be.

Therefore, unless too many here object, I am going to take a stab at a first draft of some bylaws, so if anyone has any additional input not already discussed in these threads here, please PM me or post them in the bylaws thread.

Once we have something close that most of us generally agree on, I have no problem with the BOD cleaning up and finishing a final version and making a formal BOD vote to ratify it with out further discussion to move things along.

One last comment, my main concern is that if we don't spend some group time on the bylaws now, we may end up with something that is hard to change later, and something most of us may later find we don't like.

[Ramsey]

Everyone should have input on the bylaws, not everyone can have their way obviously, but with a small number getting it started I think we should at least all get to voice our opinion.

[90Blue_XJ]

I for one think Ecomike is on the right track. Everything he stated above is true. I will again state that if I can be of service in any way just let me know. I have several hours a day in which I can do things for this group (as pointed out we are not a chapter yet) I just need some direction. So if I can be of service in what you propose Ecomike then just let me know how.
I would like to see some sort of wording stating that each section of the chapters territory will be represented by a member. So Slidell will get the same treatment as ElPaso or Altus or Norman or Abilene well you get the picture. We are a large area with varied terain and people as well as interests. They must all be treated equally.

[Ecomike]

Wow, you are sounding more like an officer, and less and less like a terrorist making statements like that, LOL! :laugh3:


Everyone should have input on the bylaws, not everyone can have their way obviously, but with a small number getting it started I think we should at least all get to voice our opinion.

[Ramsey]

As long as I can fool some of you long enough to have my revenge...




:D

[goodburbon]

I had the discussion with my wife and we came to the conclusion that I can indeed spend the time necessary to do the job.

I have also been working on a set of bylaws in which a 2/3 majority vote of the BOD is required to change the bylaws. Basically I am editing the national bylaws to fit a single chapter.

[MrsGoodburbon]

Yes, that is correct....he can be Pres. if he doesn't neglect his other responsibilities....meaning his son and wife :kissyou:

[90Blue_XJ]

Yes, that is correct....he can be Pres. if he doesn't neglect his other responsibilities....meaning his son and wife :kissyou:

If he gets the job of Prez then your job will be to report him if you or your child are neglected for even one second. Can you do that? No marital strife as I stated in another place on here.

[MrsGoodburbon]

Oh yes...trust me I can do that :)

[Kendrik]

What concerns me so far I guess is that too many seem to be willing to let someone else handle the details, like the bylaws. I think the bylaws are too important for us to delegate them away just for expediancy. They should at least, in part, be a reflection of who and what we want this chapter to be.

While I agree to an extent with that sentiment, you can't FORCE people to participate, nor should you. There's a big thread titled Bylaws (http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=921470) that has been around for 2 weeks. NO one has bothered to post their suggestions in that thread, so like I said somewhere else, "Silence = Consent". It's entirely possible that most folks don't think the bylaws are a big deal, so it's perfectly fine to let it ride. And ya know, this is just a club for a bunch of guys to wheel, not a national government. Let's not get too full of ourselves. :)

[Kendrik]

I would like to see some sort of wording stating that each section of the chapters territory will be represented by a member. So Slidell will get the same treatment as ElPaso or Altus or Norman or Abilene well you get the picture. We are a large area with varied terain and people as well as interests. They must all be treated equally.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "treated equally". Can you expand on that?

[90Blue_XJ]

While I agree to an extent with that sentiment, you can't FORCE people to participate, nor should you. There's a big thread titled Bylaws (http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=921470) that has been around for 2 weeks. NO one has bothered to post their suggestions in that thread, so like I said somewhere else, "Silence = Consent". It's entirely possible that most folks don't think the bylaws are a big deal, so it's perfectly fine to let it ride. And ya know, this is just a club for a bunch of guys to wheel, not a national government. Let's not get too full of ourselves. :)

I, for one, am not a bylaw writer. I have decided to wait until they are posted and then I will debate anything that seems to be out of line for this upcoming chapter. I will be as active on here as anyone. I also don't think of any part of NAXJA as just a bunch of guys getting together to wheel. My part of that lifestyle ended a few years ago. I'm way too old for that. I started out to build an expeditionary type of XJ on an older platform and am still in the process. My reason for being on these forums is to learn more about XJs and to continue my quest for that vehicle that I started out to build.
So Kendrik, there may in fact be people here whose intent is to do other things besides just wheel.

[90Blue_XJ]

Oh yes...trust me I can do that :)

Lets elect you and he as co-presidents, that way he has to do stuff related to the job with you. Whatcha think???

[Kendrik]

My reason for being on these forums is to learn more about XJs and to continue my quest for that vehicle that I started out to build.
So Kendrik, there may in fact be people here whose intent is to do other things besides just wheel.

That doesn't change the spirit of my comment, which is that we're not curing cancer here, just playing at making a new club. Is it important to me? Sure! But I don't expect it to be a life-changing event or anything.

I am curious now, though. If you're not interested in wheeling, then why bother with a local chapter? I mean, aside from knowing local folks for trades, purchases, etc., don't the national forums cover everything you're interested in?

[90Blue_XJ]

That doesn't change the spirit of my comment, which is that we're not curing cancer here, just playing at making a new club. Is it important to me? Sure! But I don't expect it to be a life-changing event or anything.

I am curious now, though. If you're not interested in wheeling, then why bother with a local chapter? I mean, aside from knowing local folks for trades, purchases, etc., don't the national forums cover everything you're interested in?

Yes they pretty much do but I have the time to devote to this proposed chapter and I am proud to help. I need to test the improvements that I make as I go along and as I learned along time ago the buddy system is the best and safest way to do anything outdoors. I hunt and used to hike alot and always have had a buddy along. This same philosophy is now incorporated into the building and testing my improvements in my rig. It is not just my DD but it is my multipurpose vehicle. I have a Z71 if I need a truck and a Miata for just fun cruising. I'm an older guy (near 60) and to just wheel is what I was all about in the 80s when my family was young. Now I am building what I hope will take myself and my wife anywhere we want to go when we are both retired. Hope that answers your question. If not PM me and I will be happy to give you a number where I can be reached to discuss it further.

[MrsGoodburbon]

Lets elect you and he as co-presidents, that way he has to do stuff related to the job with you. Whatcha think???

Nah, I don't think it will be a problem. I have even less time than him for all of this, so I wouldn't be able to help all that much. I am sure he will still save time for us. No worries :)

[Kendrik]

<<Snippity>>
If not PM me and I will be happy to give you a number where I can be reached to discuss it further.

Nah, that pretty much answered it. :) I'm thinking that you're still gonna be in trouble, though, since you're the only person who's spoken up that anywhere near your location. Hopefully we can pull some more folks from that region into participating.

[90Blue_XJ]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "treated equally". Can you expand on that?

Not be disregarded because they only have a couple members in their section of their state. Say you were the only member from VanHorn and all the meetings and runs and get togethers were in Beaumont. You could find some good wheeling spots out your way, and with the approval of the BOD which you are in constant contact with, you can set up some weekend run and campout/BBQ or something and thus introduce your part of the state to the other chapter members who have never wheeled or camped or eaten in that type of area. Maybe in East Tx the norm is muddin but in West Tx there is rock crawlin and in North Tx there is trail riding everyone gets exposed to everything at different parts of an area as large as Tx/Ok/La. No one is left out. Everyone is treated to every part of every state "equally".

[Kendrik]

Not be disregarded because they only have a couple members in their section of their state. Say you were the only member from VanHorn and all the meetings and runs and get togethers were in Beaumont. You could find some good wheeling spots out your way, and with the approval of the BOD which you are in constant contact with, you can set up some weekend run and campout/BBQ or something and thus introduce your part of the state to the other chapter members who have never wheeled or camped or eaten in that type of area. Maybe in East Tx the norm is muddin but in West Tx there is rock crawlin and in North Tx there is trail riding everyone gets exposed to everything at different parts of an area as large as Tx/Ok/La. No one is left out. Everyone is treated to every part of every state "equally".

Absolutely agree, then. However, I think it's important that we draw a distinction between "Official" events and "Unofficial" events. From what I can gather, "Official" events are few and far between and require LOTS of work organizing sponsorship, gathering finances,etc. These are the chapter equivalent to Fall Fling, etc. These are the only events that require a BOD members participation and I believe the only events that can spend NAXJA money. The "Unofficial" events are much less organized and are really just a bunch of guys deciding to go to the same place one day based on one guys organizing attempts. I guess all I'm saying is that even if an official position isn't created, don't let that stop you from setting up your own events!

I for one would love to hit as many of the various areas as possible, but logistics can be a bitch, sometimes. ;)

[goodburbon]

Not be disregarded because they only have a couple members in their section of their state. Say you were the only member from VanHorn and all the meetings and runs and get togethers were in Beaumont. You could find some good wheeling spots out your way, and with the approval of the BOD which you are in constant contact with, you can set up some weekend run and campout/BBQ or something and thus introduce your part of the state to the other chapter members who have never wheeled or camped or eaten in that type of area. Maybe in East Tx the norm is muddin but in West Tx there is rock crawlin and in North Tx there is trail riding everyone gets exposed to everything at different parts of an area as large as Tx/Ok/La. No one is left out. Everyone is treated to every part of every state "equally".

While the majority of our membership is in the east texas (I belive it is called the I-45 Corridor) we will be making it a point to have official outings in all areas of the chapter at some time or another, It looks like there will be a bunch of unofficial runs in east Tx just because of the close proximity of the # of members there. If you have a place to wheel in south Texas you are our guy there for sure, and will most likely be heavily involved in that event.

I'm actually looking forward to wheeling all of these places, don't let the geographic location of the potential BOD fool you, just because we aren't as scattered as would be ideal for a representative government doesn't mean we are going to have our meetings in New Orleans.

[90Blue_XJ]

Nah, that pretty much answered it. :) I'm thinking that you're still gonna be in trouble, though, since you're the only person who's spoken up that anywhere near your location. Hopefully we can pull some more folks from that region into participating.

Been calling everyone I know from this area with an XJ. Some have been out of town and others are too involved with the upcoming holiday. But if we don't have many people pushing for early voting and we wait for the OK guys to chime in here then maybe I will have better luck with the local guys. They have a 4X4 forum here and I am trying to contact known XJ owners on that forum, but there are only a couple most have pickups and YJ/TJs.
Thanks for your help so far. We will be talking more as this comes together. I will be on here off and on almost everyday, so bring up any questions you may have. I will be happy to tell you my side.
I proposed an area rep from here which included Corpus too so I know ratherbecamping is up there maybe he has a few people to contact

[90Blue_XJ]

I'm actually looking forward to wheeling all of these places, don't let the geographic location of the potential BOD fool you, just because we aren't as scattered as would be ideal for a representative government doesn't mean we are going to have our meetings in New Orleans.

Why not I love N.O. Lived there awhile in the 60s. See i'm an old fawker. Lived off Chef M. Hwy and later off Ellysian Fields Blvd. Worked as a bus mechanic for a tour bus company for over a year.

[90Blue_XJ]

I for one would love to hit as many of the various areas as possible, but logistics can be a bitch, sometimes. ;)


Official/Un-official I don't care as long as everyone is having a good time and are safe. Logistics require a lot of prior notice and planning. Thats what I'm all about. I'm not a spur of the moment kinda guy.

[Ecomike]

We have sand in Galveston!:rof:And its a lot safer than rocks and mud!:laugh:

And you can still wet!!!!


Not be disregarded because they only have a couple members in their section of their state. Say you were the only member from VanHorn and all the meetings and runs and get togethers were in Beaumont. You could find some good wheeling spots out your way, and with the approval of the BOD which you are in constant contact with, you can set up some weekend run and campout/BBQ or something and thus introduce your part of the state to the other chapter members who have never wheeled or camped or eaten in that type of area. Maybe in East Tx the norm is muddin but in West Tx there is rock crawlin and in North Tx there is trail riding everyone gets exposed to everything at different parts of an area as large as Tx/Ok/La. No one is left out. Everyone is treated to every part of every state "equally".

[goodburbon]

No salt water on my heep thank you very much, I just got done working on Kendriks pile of rust.

[90Blue_XJ]

No salt water on my heep thank you very much, I just got done working on Kendriks pile of rust.

I live pretty close to SPI here and I agree. My 17 year old POS is going to stay away from salt water and remain rust free as long as possible. The 4X4 guys here all have pickups and most are rusty hulks. I want no parts of the beach with my XJ.

[ExTankerGuy]

I'm headed to Hot Springs over Labor Day...

Good place to meet up with everybody...

[Ecomike]

In Houston my Jeep gets a bath in the rain almost daily, so salt does not stick around here. You can always use the drive through car wash after you leave the beach.

Salt washes of, but rock damage :eek: does not wash off.

I really have not had any rust problems in 35 years of vehicles, except the truck of my 73 LTD which defines RUST. And I never even took it to the beach! The poor trunk design and rotting leaves (Humic acid) that get into the rain gutter under the trunk, as it sits under the trees in my driveway ate it up.

[90Blue_XJ]

In Houston my Jeep gets a bath in the rain almost daily, so salt does not stick around here. You can always use the drive through car wash after you leave the beach.

Salt washes of, but rock damage :eek: does not wash off. .

Almost never rains here and beach salt, even with repeated washings, ate up my Dodge Power Wagon a few years back. Really loved that truck too.
Rock rash is a badge of honor.

[90Blue_XJ]

Kendrik do we have an updated list of who is elgible? How is the Google earth thing going? Found a few people on other forums who reside in the right places but some turned out to be users not members. Best efforts so far have had produced just limited results.