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Mdub
June 7th, 2007, 14:54
Wanted to invite anyone interested to join us. A couple buddies and myself (in two rigs - my white XJ and Rod's Gray Landcruiser) are planning a Sunflower mine run on Saturday Morning. I've done the trail once before and it isn't that challenging, but nice all the same. Don't really need lockers or anything, but a little bit of a lift is recommended. We are meeting at my house in Gilbert at 7:30 so we'll be at the intersection of Sycamore Creek/Mt.Ord road and FR25 at 9am.

To get to Sunflower Mine, coming from Phoenix on 87, you'll turn left onto the road marked Sycamore Creek/Mt. Ord. ( just a little past mile marker 222) Follow the paved road a little over a mile and then turn right at the cattle guard onto FR 25.

We plan on making pretty good time, so we won't be doing too much lolly-gagging (assuming we don't have mech. difficulties).


The information below was taken off of the Virtual Jeep Club website:

Sunflower Mine

Trail Rating: 3.0

Sunflower mine is a great straight forward trail with excellent opportunities to see some old mining equipment.

The trail starts not far off of Highway 87 north of the 4 Peaks area towards Payson. Winding up and down, the average elevation on the trail is higher than most of the other Phoenix area trails. This makes for generally cooler wheeling.

80% of the trail is a pretty easy dirt road. Maintained more or less constant throughout. Once past the main camping and staging areas you start to wind down and cross several creek beds.

The rest of the trail is made up of small boulder fields and a few short climbs that can be prone to wash outs.

You can make the trip in a stock TJ with a keen eye on those rocks, a small lift will make the trip an enjoyable breeze.

Operating until as late as 1955, the sunflower (also called National) mine produced Mercury. The mercury was formed by burning cinnabar from surrounding rocks into a gas then cooling to condense.

Several structures and shafts remain. BE CAREFUL when exploring these. Although they are some of the best preserved in the area, the potential for accident is high.


Rating 3 Difficult Trail
Description Loose gravel, large pot holes, steep inclines, medium sized rocks.
Vehicle and Equipment Four wheel drive required, tires with aggressive tread and lowered tire pressure helpful.
Example Log Corral Trail, Lower Firebird, Raw Deal, Ruby Wash (Optional Obstacles), FR42 (Changes greatly depending on rainfall), Upper Woodpecker

Mdub
June 18th, 2007, 19:42
No one else from NAXJA showed, but A couple guys from AZVJC, my buddy and myself had a bit o' fun. Here's the pics:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007020.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007025.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007029.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007035.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007067.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007070.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007074.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007076.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007099.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/M_dubble/SunflowerMines4x42007101.jpg

ashmanjeepxj
June 18th, 2007, 20:31
The picture of the mine is a really cool picture

AZRockRunner
June 18th, 2007, 20:42
looks like a nice run. Unfortunatly I am out of wheeling for the summer and the jeep is getting new life breathed into her with a low mile engine and a long arm suspension upgrade. Should be all ready with all that and maybe my trussed and locked front D30 if I get the fundage to get her finished in the next month or 2 so I can begin a fresh wheelin season with a good rig again.

Be safe wheelin out there this summer, and have fun. Keep up the pics so i can web wheel this summer.

Wounded XJ
June 18th, 2007, 22:23
looks like a nice run. Unfortunatly I am out of wheeling for the summer and the jeep is getting new life breathed into her with a low mile engine and a long arm suspension upgrade. Should be all ready with all that and maybe my trussed and locked front D30 if I get the fundage to get her finished in the next month or 2 so I can begin a fresh wheelin season with a good rig again.

Be safe wheelin out there this summer, and have fun. Keep up the pics so i can web wheel this summer.

That makes two of us. Mine is now down for the trany swap, some armor upgrades, and maybe some rear discs. My hope is to have it back for some late summer night runs, but that will all depend on how smooth everything goes.

Look like you guys had a nice run. Any other problems besides the tire?

Winks00XJ
June 18th, 2007, 22:52
That makes two of us. Mine is now down for the trany swap, some armor upgrades, and maybe some rear discs. My hope is to have it back for some late summer night runs, but that will all depend on how smooth everything goes.

Look like you guys had a nice run. Any other problems besides the tire?

Jon, you need some 35's to go with the tranny swap since you have the gears. 35's make everything easier.

MDUB, it looks like you have 10 inch wide wheels. Any chance you can get some 8 inch wheels, they would help keep the bead better. Nice pics, wish I could go out and play just havent had any time lately.

Wounded XJ
June 19th, 2007, 00:20
You always have to give me a hard time for being on my little 33's don't you? The way I see it you should just buy me some 35's for being such a great jeepin friend!:D

aszaunmi
June 19th, 2007, 08:03
Great photos, I need to make it up there....

AZRockRunner
June 19th, 2007, 08:21
And I will take a complete set of 5 " spares " in that 35 size if your buying.
LOL

33's are king

Winks00XJ
June 19th, 2007, 15:08
And I will take a complete set of 5 " spares " in that 35 size if your buying.
LOL

33's are king


OK, they are in the mail and should arrive sometime soon, just sit there and wait.:twak:

Wounded XJ
June 19th, 2007, 18:07
OK, they are in the mail and should arrive sometime soon, just sit there and wait.:twak:

You did not have to mail them, I live 30 min away. Would have saved you some $.

Winks00XJ
June 19th, 2007, 23:04
You did not have to mail them, I live 30 min away. Would have saved you some $.


Silly me!:looney:

XJmania030
June 19th, 2007, 23:12
how do you like the baja claws?

Mdub
June 20th, 2007, 08:18
how do you like the baja claws?

Honestly, not a huge fan. I really prefer my Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips I had prior.
I've been out 4 times with these BCs and not sure if bad luck or what, but I've had two sidewall tears. That gets a bit spendy at $250 a tire. Plus they are rough riding and loud on the street. However, they seem to get better treadwear than the PJs. My honest opinion, if I had another chance, I'd pass. But now I'm kind of stuck with them so I'm going to stick with them for the near term.

ashmanjeepxj
June 20th, 2007, 13:42
Honestly, not a huge fan. I really prefer my Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips I had prior.
I've been out 4 times with these BCs and not sure if bad luck or what, but I've had two sidewall tears. That gets a bit spendy at $250 a tire. Plus they are rough riding and loud on the street. However, they seem to get better treadwear than the PJs. My honest opinion, if I had another chance, I'd pass. But now I'm kind of stuck with them so I'm going to stick with them for the near term.

You actually have them mounted backwards for rock crawling...

What tire pressure did you run? I have had alot of rips and blowouts when wheeling at 12psi or more but once on beadlocks at 6psi the tire moves rather then rips... Id rather have it de-bead then rip...

Mdub
June 20th, 2007, 18:29
You actually have them mounted backwards for rock crawling...

What tire pressure did you run? I have had alot of rips and blowouts when wheeling at 12psi or more but once on beadlocks at 6psi the tire moves rather then rips... Id rather have it de-bead then rip...

Two things, I've heard that about being backwards for crawling, but what a pain to turn them around every time (especially in the heat). )c:


But about the pressure, I was running somewhere around 12-16psi. I was afraid it was too low. So you are saying go even lower... thanks for the tip. I can't really afford $250 a trip for rubber.