Paragon run on the 29th..who's in

[gabe4]

It looks like we will have folks for at least Sat. not sure about Sunday. Also the level will be in the area of blue 1's & 2's. John's willing to lead the way, he's got a winch as well as I so we will have at least two. I'm bringing the wife and 3yr old boy so if ya got em bring em.

I'll be heading down from Binghamton NY area so if anyone else heads south on 81 we can meet somewhere and roll together.

It looks like we've got.
Lobsterdmb
Muddygp
Mambeu--not sure about the other club you were talking about.
Myself
and a bunch of maybe's and not sure's
Mike in NJ
Jetwrench
Tool..I mean Lunchbox

[egon]

Gabe,

Myself and a few from Jersey are driving out for that weekend also to meet up with folks from Rochester. Not sure what they all are running, but I looking to run some blues.

I'll post as I know more.

--Matt

[gabe4]

Cool. looks like we might have enough for a couple groups, maybe different levels.Unless your club won't allow non-members to wheel with them.

[egon]

Nah, we're cool with wheeling with others. Its a laid back bunch. I'll talk to them and update the head count. Updates to follow.

--Matt

[Andy in Pa.]

You guys are killing me. My Jeep went under the knife two weeks after Nac-Fest and I am getting close to getting the HPD44 done, but am waiting on parts. Still need a tie-rod (don't have it yet) and need to do the rear gears (have the gears, but it is d@mm hard to move it without a tie rod!). I don't have the Hydraulic Asst done yet either...and my wife is due mid-August.

Have fun, I hope to get out again sometime in October.

Andy

[JetWrench]

Sorry, I'm out for this one, family stuff.

[muduck18]

If my wife will hurry up and have the baby I will be there with muddygp..

[gabe4]

Well if we run the right trail she might have it real quick

[muduck18]

She can't climb in to it right now... but you have a good point...

[lunchbox643]

who's toolbox? and its official... i will be on 35s with ox locked rear! Whohoo!

[Menzenski]

Mambeu--not sure about the other club you were talking about.
I'll be there with the Cave76 crew all weekend (Friday, Saturday, Sunday). Hopefully I'll see you guys there.

[gabe4]

I'll be there with the Cave76 crew all weekend (Friday, Saturday, Sunday). Hopefully I'll see you guys there.
Are they open to idea of outsiders?

[Mike in NJ]

At this point, it looks pretty good I'll be headed to PAP next Saturday. What time do you camper folk figure you'll be at the entrance lot?

MG

[Menzenski]

Are they open to idea of outsiders?
I would think so. Cave76 isn't a formal club. If I can put my Jeep back together in time (it's getting some new axles, finally), I'd love to do some trails with you NAXJA guys on Saturday.

[Silverstreak01]

you guys should just forget paragon and let me and my buddy take you guys out.. the rain made for some sick wheeling..... put that 25 right in the gas tank... just a thought

[egon]

who's toolbox? and its official... i will be on 35s with ox locked rear! Whohoo!

Alright Mr fancy pants, that means your running Double Zero again, right.

Yeah, don't worry, the oil pan's fixed too.

--Matt

[nhrocker]

Alright Mr fancy pants, that means your running Double Zero again, right.

Yeah, don't worry, the oil pan's fixed too.

--MattHey, the bigger tires won't make up for his bad driving... :laugh3:

Some of the guys I wheel with in Mass. will be down there in the Cave 76 group. Sounds like it's gonna be a good time. One of these times I've got to get back down there...

[ROBZ95Xj]

Some of the guys I wheel with in Mass. will be down there in ...
yeah the same bastids that bailed on us a week before nac fest

[lunchbox643]

Alright Mr fancy pants, that means your running Double Zero again, right.

Yeah, don't worry, the oil pan's fixed too.

--Matt

matt, whatever you run i will be right behind you again.

[lobsterdmb]

At this point, it looks pretty good I'll be headed to PAP next Saturday. What time do you camper folk figure you'll be at the entrance lot?

MG

I am thinking 8:30 at the entrance lot if everyone is cool with that. Right now confirmed specifically with us we have:

Gabe4
MikeinNJ
MuddyGP
Myself

I am camping fri night, if anyone else is, let me know.

[gabe4]

8:30 is fine

[Silverstreak01]

gabe.. i never got my pictures...haha

[gabe4]

gabe.. i never got my pictures...haha
Sorry Kieth I just got my Home PC fixed I'll post them soon

[Silverstreak01]

its cool. wish i could run with you this week but i have to work as much as i can to be able to get to CO in the fall..

[Rob Mayercik]

It looks like we will have folks for at least Sat. not sure about Sunday. Also the level will be in the area of blue 1's & 2's.

For Blues 1 and 2, I'm in for Saturday.

08:30 sounds good for meet-up at the park.

Rob

[lunchbox643]

i should be there for camping on fri, unless my heep is still broken, then 8:30 at the park sat.

[egon]

I might be camping also, what time are your guys heading out there Friday?

--Matt

[Andy in Pa.]

I might be camping also, what time are your guys heading out there Friday?

--Matt

Hmmm... does sleeping in the back of your Jeep count as camping??:wierd:

[egon]

Its a tent, it just has 4wd.

At least I close my hatch.

--Matt

[nhrocker]

Hmmm... does sleeping in the back of your Jeep count as camping??:wierd:It's better than one of my coworkers. He was just mentioning today how he always double checks to make sure there will be electricity to run the TV and DVD player in his tent...:banghead:

[Menzenski]

As much as I hate to say this, I'm not going to be able to make this run. My Jeep only has one axle under it at the moment, and I just don't think that I'l be able to install my new front axle, remove and replace my rear axle, and put all the brakes back together. That, and finances are really tight for me right now. I still haven't paid off my NAC-fest trip. You guys have a good time without me.

Matt

[lunchbox643]

hey mambeu numbah 5... i have the exact same things as you to do it seems like... lets have a race!

yup thats right, the heep currently has no axles under it, and it seems like my 44 wont be geared till friday morning, and it needs brakes and hard lines...

cutting it close???


OH BTW!! anyone have any spare d30 shafts... i am almost gonna guarantee a break, and i have no spares.

[egon]

44 wont be geared till friday morning

I did that once.

Broke the gears in driving to Paragon. God did that take forever.

Drive, read a few chapters, drive some more, more reading.

You better get crackin.

--Matt

[ROBZ95Xj]

I did that once.

Broke the gears in driving to Paragon. God did that take forever.

Drive, read a few chapters, drive some more, more reading.

You better get crackin.

--Matt
nhrocker and bj-666 both went down to nac fest on brand new gears

[gabe4]

As much as I hate to say this, I'm not going to be able to make this run. My Jeep only has one axle under it at the moment, and I just don't think that I'l be able to install my new front axle, remove and replace my rear axle, and put all the brakes back together. That, and finances are really tight for me right now. I still haven't paid off my NAC-fest trip. You guys have a good time without me.

Matt
I knew you were looking to get 44's is that wjhat this is or did something go south?

[lobsterdmb]

I might be camping also, what time are your guys heading out there Friday?

--Matt

I don't know yet but probably leaving around 6:30

[nhrocker]

Yeah, new axles right before NACfest was real fun. I managed to squeeze in 300 miles of break in time and swapped in some fresh gear oil right before heading down. If I hadn't I probably would have toasted my new gears on the trip down...

And lunchbox, I broke a 297 joint on the first morning I was down there on 30" tires. I didn't think it would be a problem for me, man was I wrong. I would go and buy some spares since you say you're going to be on 35's. Luckily lobsterdmb had that spare that I borrowed, but I don't like having to rely on others for something that I should have prepaired for. Just my $.02.

[Menzenski]

I knew you were looking to get 44's is that wjhat this is or did something go south?
I'm putting in a 1994 D30 (non-disconnect) and a 1987 D44 (with LSD), both with 3.55s.

[ybreal210]

i might be attending with a friend of mine, if we both are not working on saturday, won't know until friday afternoon..... so its a possibility i might me making my first trip with the jeep....

[lunchbox643]

Yeah, new axles right before NACfest was real fun. I managed to squeeze in 300 miles of break in time and swapped in some fresh gear oil right before heading down. If I hadn't I probably would have toasted my new gears on the trip down...

And lunchbox, I broke a 297 joint on the first morning I was down there on 30" tires. I didn't think it would be a problem for me, man was I wrong. I would go and buy some spares since you say you're going to be on 35's. Luckily lobsterdmb had that spare that I borrowed, but I don't like having to rely on others for something that I should have prepaired for. Just my $.02.

yup, thats how im gonna be rolling in... i just hope that 1 full set of front spares will be enough.

also oh boy.. got the front in today - the steering. the rear will officially be ready to go in the truck friday after lunch... with no brakes. that gives me friday afternnoon to get a rear end in with all new brakes, and break it in.


edit: wish me luck!

[gabe4]

I guess we should get a head count of who going to be there so if someone is running late we don't leave without them. We are going to meet at the park at 8:30.

[lobsterdmb]

Well definitely running with us I think:

Count me as one, u as 2......

These people said they were definite:
MikeinNJ
MuddyJP

[muduck18]

Sorry, I can't say definate... Wife still is holding on to this thing like she wants to keep it in there...

If the baby comes tonight I will be there if not... I doubt it...

[Char-Broil]

Hey all, i'm in, going to head up saturday morning unless it seems like there will be a bunch of people camping. And I have a tent this time!! I gotta replace a pass. side front hub bearing assembly after work tomorrow, but that wont take too long. And Lunchbox, I will have a set of spare 297 shafts along that I didn't really pay for so if you need one i got it no worries.

Jon

[gabe4]

And Lunchbox, I will have a set of spare 297 shafts along that I didn't really pay for so if you need one i got it no worries.

Jon

Me too

[lunchbox643]

alright awesome that make 3 full sets of 297 spares i can go through, thanks guys, now im not afraid of a little skinny pedal...


that is, if my heep ever moves again! hopefully the rear end goes in smooth.

[nhrocker]

that is, if my heep ever moves again! hopefully the rear end goes in smooth.For me assembling/installing the rear end wasn't that bad. The only sketchy part was driving it with no shocks and the perches not welded to a coworkers house so he could weld it up for me...

[ROBZ95Xj]

Well definitely running with us I think:

Count me as one, u as 2......

These people said they were definite:
MikeinNJ
MuddyJP
hey you should beable to meet up with Billy in his black yj, you should remember him from mohawk madnees last year, his yj now has 33" ltbs, it should be easy to spot with a big banditt offroad sticker on the windshield

[Mike in NJ]

Well definitely running with us I think:

Count me as one, u as 2......

These people said they were definite:
MikeinNJ
MuddyJP

Yes, I am. See you guys Saturday morning.

Mike in NJ :patriot:

[Rob Mayercik]

I'm definitely definite as well - heading up tomorrow night for the hotel (I know, I know, hotels are cheating).

See you at the park at 08:30 Saturday.

Rob

[lunchbox643]

ewwwww hotel.... well then again matt/egon is basically staying in a hotel :thumbup:

[lobsterdmb]

ewwwww hotel.... well then again matt/egon is basically staying in a hotel :thumbup:


i don't think his jeep counts as a hotel....

[nhrocker]

i don't think his jeep counts as a hotel....
I don't know, his XJ is nicer and has more amenities than some of the hotels I've stayed at...

[ROBZ95Xj]

I don't know, his XJ is nicer and has more amenities than some of the hotels I've stayed at...
it even gots a nice and toasty carpet:D

[lunchbox643]

ok, i am officially leaving my house for paragon in 30 mins... just got everything done. that is 1:00 AM EST for those who dont know. hope i have fun!!!

[ROBZ95Xj]

ok, i am officially leaving my house for paragon in 30 mins... just got everything done. that is 1:00 AM EST for those who dont know. hope i have fun!!!
now thats what i call comited! have fun!

[ybreal210]

i will officially be leaving my house for paragon at 5:30am, comin from jackson NJ, me and my brother in my XJ.... see everyone out there tomorrow morning.... and if someone would be kind to give me a buzz if there are any problems.... my cell is 732-620-0312

thanks,
Brandon

[ybreal210]

well...... officially slept in, woke up 10 minutes ago saying oh shit, realizing i lost power last night so i had no alarm..... was hoping someone catches this and can give me a call so i can catch up with the group later.... if anyone gets this beforehand, could someone call me.... 732 620 0312.... i really wanna go but i got screwed by the electric company

[lobsterdmb]

made it home safe... thanks to everyone for a great day of wheeling

[Mike in NJ]

Yeah, just made it back myself. My jury-rigged exhaust held out until I crossed the Delaware and that crap section of I78 right there shook it apart again. Got it back together and had no more issues the last 8 miles.

Had a good time with you guys, and look forward to the next run (dependent upon how quickly Borla honors their warrantee).

Mike in NJ :patriot:

[carmannj]

Where are the damn pics!!

[Menzenski]

Where are the damn pics!!
x2, I want to see what Toolbox did to his Jeep. :laugh3:

[Char-Broil]

i didnt take any pics or vid this time, sorry...... mike, glad to hear you made it home without too much trouble.
i took that tire off the rim this morning, patched it from the inside, glued it up some more, and wheeled on it for some of today. then i made the mistake of trying to drive home on it. I got about 10 miles down 81 before it blew. wasn't too bad, the tire is still OK. I changed out the rear 2 for 31s on the side of the interstate. i was thankful for my impact wrench! I made it home fine after that, but i definately looked freaky with the front tires bigger and sticking out way more than the rears haha. oh well. i should be able to buy 1 new AT and fix the injured one to use as a trail only spare. Thanks again everyone, had a great time. See you all soon

[matt6669]

any word from Warren. Wondering how he made out with the news gears and lockers we did for him. Plus i want to see what he did to his truck, sounded like he was planning on trashing it bad.

Matt

[lunchbox643]

Well... i didn't break anything. Lucky i guess, but that OX lcker worked soooo well once i got the cable adjusted to length. it was a lifesaver and a half! i am pretty sure with my setup if i had some kind of positive traction device for the front, i would go anywhere.

edit: i was on 3 wheels a couple times, and on 2 wheels once. (almost pulled a H1 on the RTI ramp while posing on a rock.)

PS. sorry to hear about the tire jon... when i get a 35" spare you can have my spare to replace the busted one.

PPS. any word on keith's jeep? hydrolocked or the starter just f'd?

[gabe4]

I think the only one taking pic's was Rob's Dad, so next time those wanting to see what's going on, have to SHOW UP AND WHEEL. Mike and Jon glad you both made it back home in one piece well almost anyway.

It was a good trip weather was nice, Nathan behaved as well did Patty, and Melissia showed us her legs.

[Rob Mayercik]

True, I didn't see any other cameras. He got a lot of scenery, but did get some of the rigs in my group (Lobster, Mike, John, Gabe). I'll be sending a copy of them to Lobster so he can pick a few to post.

Definitely had a good time, and I'm glad to see that everyone made it home.

Rob

[Char-Broil]

hey i talked to keith. He said it was just the starter so packed with mud that it wouldnt start. they trailered it home and cleaned out the starter somehow. He was then going to change out all the fluids and wash the rig up a lot. don't worry abotu the spare lunchbox, i am going to just go to a tire place, buy a new 32 and have them patch up the bad one for use as a "trail only" spare. It kinda sucks, but at least then i'll have 5 good tires and all. I'm going to mount them on my wagon wheels tonight, i'll post up some pics when i get all 4 of them on there! well now i gotta spend a few hours cleaning it...

[Silverstreak01]

well today i put a new k and n in it , new plugs, new oil and filter, pulled it out of the garage drove it across the driveway and it stalled .. i very low oil pressure untill i rev it up then it goes up... i had enough fun for today i guess the saga continues tomarrow.. :( thanks for caring

keith h