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Nickster
April 16th, 2007, 16:23
Was basically laughed at when i offered 5g for it...Sticker was 6999. Its a 99 sport. 95k miles. auto... in NC. I looked up the KBB, NADA, and TMV values before i went in and 5g seemed more than reasonable. So my eye is now on a 99 sport w/ 78k miles, auto... sticker is 7500. What should i offer and what should i not pay more than? i realize every dealer in every state is different but since i cant use KBB and NADA to determine a fair price maybe u guys can help. Thanks
Kyle Petterson
April 16th, 2007, 16:28
It's all supply and demand - check comparables in your area. See what they're going for.
bwh0069
April 16th, 2007, 16:37
I paid 8500 for a 2000 sport with 40000 miles. It was in Virginia though I live in N.C.:fuse:
uncc civilengineer
April 16th, 2007, 16:38
why buy from a dealer? Just for referece (and I think I got a killer deal) but, I paid $7000.00 for my 98 Limited (leather, wood, all that stuff) w/ an ARB, Rocky Road Outfitters Rails, and 5 new 31" BFG AT's... oh and 67k on the clock.
Look around in the area for private parties on Auto Trader....
goXJ
April 16th, 2007, 16:43
paid 7600 for my 99 limited, with 116k, 3.5re, arb bullbar, m8000, 31" BFG AT, etc.
bwh0069
April 16th, 2007, 16:48
yahoo auto usually has several.
CanMan
April 16th, 2007, 16:52
Check out http://charlotte.craigslist.org/. I wouldnt buy from a Stealership. Always overpriced, IMO. Keep looking, you will always find a better deal.
WheelinJR
April 16th, 2007, 16:57
Sometimes people need to finance, and that is easier to deal with direct from a dealer, bout the only reason to buy from a lot really.
CanMan
April 16th, 2007, 17:07
Sometimes people need to finance, and that is easier to deal with direct from a dealer, bout the only reason to buy from a lot really.
You can always try to get a bank or credit union to finance for you as well, when buying from a private party. Harder, yes, but it still can be done.
littlehurk
April 16th, 2007, 19:03
Craigslist all the way. Just picked mine up last month from the Wilmington Craigslist. It's a 1996 Classic with only 60k miles and one owner for 3100. They are out there, just give it time and you will find the right one.
Nickster
April 16th, 2007, 19:17
Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately the market is slim on xj's with my criteria. Im lookin for 96-99 sport 4wd, auto, hopefully 8.8, less than 100k. and for no more than 7g. Im only searchin 100 miles from my zip, i might have to go further out. I was tryin to avoid anything west of TN and north of NC. I would love to find a private seller but in the past interest rates from banks and credit unions were a bit high and they only give you the tax value of the car and id have to make up the difference (student salary :helpme:). I have a great credit score just not much credit history...ill be 21 in a few months. Im also tryin to trade my truck in (06 nissan fronty 9k, ill take a hit on that for sure). Im probably a bit to optimistic with my searching but ill just wait for a good one to come about. If anyone knows any xj's like im lookin for any help would be more than appreciated. Thaks again.
uncc civilengineer
April 16th, 2007, 19:41
Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately the market is slim on xj's with my criteria. Im lookin for 96-99 sport 4wd, auto, hopefully 8.8, less than 100k. and for no more than 7g. Im only searchin 100 miles from my zip, i might have to go further out. I was tryin to avoid anything west of TN and north of NC. I would love to find a private seller but in the past interest rates from banks and credit unions were a bit high and they only give you the tax value of the car and id have to make up the difference (student salary :helpme:). I have a great credit score just not much credit history...ill be 21 in a few months. Im also tryin to trade my truck in (06 nissan fronty 9k, ill take a hit on that for sure). Im probably a bit to optimistic with my searching but ill just wait for a good one to come about. If anyone knows any xj's like im lookin for any help would be more than appreciated. Thaks again.
The 8.8 is gonna make your search even harded.....
Yeah credit unions are the way to go... they may even give you a personal loan where you keep the title and not the bank.. The dealerships are going to eat you up on the Nissan so my as well take it to Carmax and see what they offer to buy it outright. Then just finance the difference in w/ the XJ. You should easily be able to find one in your range....
But you're probably going to have to swap in the Ford axle :wow:
2kLimited
April 16th, 2007, 19:45
2000 limited loaded 84k paid 8400
Nickster
April 16th, 2007, 19:51
Carmax offered 15.5g for the nissan. KBB trade in was 18.5 good condition. It has 9k and is easily in excellent condition..but whatever...i wasnt expecting much. I owe 18g on it. So if i trade it in to carmax and then get a loan from the bank or CU to get a xj from a private party how is the difference transferred? I cant cover the difference im trying not to take out student loans for college so im broke.
uncc civilengineer
April 16th, 2007, 19:57
Man I feel for you but if you're broke why did you go and buy a $20,000 truck? Carmax generally offers KBB Trade-In (good condition)... so I dont know what to say... If it were me, I would spend the $50.00 and list my truck on Auto Trader... try to sell it first then find an XJ... or get a peice of crap beater until you can find one...
Nickster
April 16th, 2007, 20:04
Initially i had a job that i couldve afforded the truck with. But school conflicted and i had to get a PT job. Seems like my only option is to find an xj at a dealer and trade in and payoff the balance. If i get that 99 sport for around 6g then ill have to payoff approx. 9g on a 99 sport with 78k. Not terrible... I do plan on keepin the xj til it dies. However if anyone knows if it is possible to trade in a car at one place and transfer the loan balance to a new car loan elsewhere, please let me know!?
And on a positive note, this is the only debt i have (no credit cards or student loans) so dont feel bad, i did this to myself... damn cars.
motorcityxj
April 16th, 2007, 21:05
i think edmunds.com will adjust the price to your region if you enter the zip code. KBB, AND NADA are just recomendations or guidelines dont let a seller think its the gospel or the "minimum" etc. Edmunds is also nice since it will adjust the value based on milage and you can enter any number of options like: moon roof, power options, towing package, hitch, heated seats, heated mirrors, climate control etc etc. And it will deduct for a 4 banger on the xj, things like that. so you can get a much more accurate price than NADA or KBB which gives you 3 price ranges or is it 4 ? and a few condition parameters.
check it out.
racer32
April 16th, 2007, 21:10
I got mine at a local GSA auction. you can search here:
http://www.autoauctions.gsa.gov/VehicleSearch.cfm
I paid $6200 for a 98 SE with 64k on the clock...
TrueBlueXJ
April 16th, 2007, 21:15
Paid $5,000 for my 96 2-door, 2.5L, 74k miles, one year ago. They were asking something like 6200, but I drove all the way to PA with 5 grand in cash and they came down. Anytime I buy a used vehicle I go to the dealer with cash. They've got a soft spot for the green and you can usually swindle 'em pretty easy when you're waving a couple g's in their face.
Nickster
April 16th, 2007, 21:37
I got edmunds.com TMV value...is this what ur talkin about motorcity?
I always thought that the dealers made money off the interest if you get a loan term and pay no money down. Ive gone w/ and w/o cash down and it never made a difference on the purchase price. I always hammer them down on the price too.
TrueBlueXJ
April 16th, 2007, 21:41
Well, I've never put cash down, just paid cash in full. I have yet to finance a vehicle. Feels like legal robbery to me.
motorcityxj
April 17th, 2007, 17:50
I got edmunds.com TMV value...is this what ur talkin about motorcity?
I always thought that the dealers made money off the interest if you get a loan term and pay no money down. Ive gone w/ and w/o cash down and it never made a difference on the purchase price. I always hammer them down on the price too.
yep thats it the second part has the list for all the options.
dcXJ
April 17th, 2007, 18:01
Found mine on Auto Trader in West Virginia. I drove 3 hours to pick it up from Richmond. $8500, 79k miles, 2001 Sport, 3" OME lift, SYE, driveshaft, and 5 BFG 31" ATs. Bought it from a private seller...stay away from the dealers with the XJs....they overprice them almost every time. You'll find one, just keep looking.
99GeeP
April 17th, 2007, 18:39
Got my 99 in Jan. for $3500, 120k miles. Bought it from a Mayor of a small city...he had it serviced on regular basis...had all the work records to go along w/it
alwaysready
April 17th, 2007, 18:47
I feel ya. In chicago here your lucky to get an individual to sell at KBB.com says. and at an excellent price point the truck is beat. every other one seemed to be 1500 over what kbb said so you figure theyd come down 500 or so they still high. keep looking youll find one i think i found mine..
i did just find a 2000 with 87,000 on it for 6500 but it was in good condition i was looking for cleaner.... so ill end up spending more than what i thought i would after look at kbb values.. dealers always have huge markup. go tot he dealer and know what you want out of your truck and what you want to pay for the xj and see what they can do.. and dont tell them well i just want to end up paying 150.00 a month cause theyll extend out the term as long as they can to sell you 7 years later youll still be paying one that xj :D
90Blue_XJ
April 17th, 2007, 21:10
Bought my 90 with 151,000 on the clock for 2000 cash.
Oh yeah why is this in the Modified Tech Forum shouldn't it be in the Off Topic area????
Nickster
April 17th, 2007, 21:12
....It sucks when you cant use a nationwide car value system to even get a HALF DECENT guess at how much youll get on a trade in...or selling...or buying...
BTW i was drunk and desperate when i origionally posted this thread, please forgive my off topic post.
Incredibly, as it almost unconceivably turns out, this is the only thread i started that warranted more than 2 valid responses in my entire forum posting career...my E-life is finally breathing with hope. :clap:
...Sorry ive been drinkin again...
UNCC_99XJ
April 18th, 2007, 06:07
I love my 99. Paid way to much for it, but I got it from carmax a little over two years ago with 62K on it. I now have 94K on it, with no major problems to date.
I'll agree to the going with a credit union for a loan. Thats what I did (through Truliant), and even though it's in my moms name (as I was under age at the time), we got a great interest rate on it with a low monthly payment.
Now if I can just get the damn thing paid off i'll be good.
SwiftShot
April 18th, 2007, 06:14
Running in to the same problems right now. You cant count on KBB value half the time.
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