Are you a Democrat, Republican or Southerner?

[Kejtar]

Here is a little test that will help you decide. The answer can be found by posing the following question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges at you. You are carrying a Glock cal 40, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family . What do you do?

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Democrat's Answer:

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor! Or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it?

Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me? If I were to grab his knees ! and hol d on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?

Should I call 911? Why is this street so deserted? We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior. This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for few days and try to come to a consensus.

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Republican's Answer:

BANG!

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Southerner's Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click................(sounds of reloading.)
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click.
Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?
Son: Can I shoot the next one!
Wife: You ain't taking that to the Taxidermist!

[old_man]

Toooo funnay:)

[Glenn B]

Where is the "import" version?

I likey Merica... I wuv new job. No work... surf interwebs all dawy and dwink Wadka. Merika good to me... my boss ok wid me fawking awff. Porwn guud too.

well? You surf and post all day at work... and are too afraid to say where you work. Because you know I would have you shit canned in a second. :) Have a nive night.

[flexjay87]

i love that!!! the truth is sometimes very funny. you could use this as a parallel situation on the terrorists for sure. find them and kill them as needed, period.

[theslacker]

Canadian

Start shooting snowballs at him with my hockey stick.

[ibn2h2o]

Suddener!!

[jpars]

maybe a little less bang from the US once in awhile wouldnt put him there with a knife in the first place.

[XJSpencer]

maybe a little more bang from the US once in awhile and he wouldnt be there with a knife in the first place.

fixed it. :D

[goodburbon]

maybe a little less bang from the US once in awhile wouldnt put him there with a knife in the first place.

That sir, falls under democrat/Vagina.

[rocklandxjer]

to them we are infidel, its not that we rabblerouse or provoke them, they hate us because we do no belive in their True Faith and their Allah, they see us as defiants of the one true God, to them. so to them, wether we "bang" or not, we are still the bad guy and there fore, Must DIE so that we may be brought closer to allah. crazy religion huh

[jpars]

to them we are infidel, its not that we rabblerouse or provoke them, they hate us because we do no belive in their True Faith and their Allah, they see us as defiants of the one true God, to them. so to them, wether we "bang" or not, we are still the bad guy and there fore, Must DIE so that we may be brought closer to allah. crazy religion huh


most ignorant statement ever.

they hate us because we have soldiers in their country and our noses in thier business, not because we dont beleive in thier god. you dont see them raining jets into the vatican do you?

we dont provoke them? uh, why dont i, say, plant a north korean troop in your general vicinity, not even during war with them. lets just put them there and see how you react.

now, whether or not we should have soliders in their country, our noses in thier business and whether these actions and wars are just is a completely different debate altogether, one that i am not adressing.

[jpars]

crazy religion huh

and im sorry get a f***ing clue.

there is a DISTINCT and IMMENSE difference between thousands of islamic EXTREMEISTS, and millions upon millions of Islamic followers.

[DansGreyMj]

and im sorry get a f***ing clue.

there is a DISTINCT and IMMENSE difference between thousands of islamic EXTREMEISTS, and millions upon millions of Islamic followers.



actually there religon is based on getting rid of the infidels, which is all non islamic followers

[5-90]

most ignorant statement ever.

they hate us because we have soldiers in their country and our noses in thier business, not because we dont beleive in thier god. you dont see them raining jets into the vatican do you?

we dont provoke them? uh, why dont i, say, plant a north korean troop in your general vicinity, not even during war with them. lets just put them there and see how you react.

now, whether or not we should have soliders in their country, our noses in thier business and whether these actions and wars are just is a completely different debate altogether, one that i am not adressing.

Moot point. To them, we are "the last Great Satan," and must be destroyed.

Try reading the Holy Qu'ran - but don't do it around Muslims. Under Koranic law, they are well within their rights to snatch it from your hands, and strike you if you resist....

We don't need to do anything to "provoke" them - we do so merely by existing. Theirs (and, by extension, ours,) is a "war of annihilation" - this won't end until one side or the other is COMPLEATLY destroyed.

5-90

[Ramsey]

most ignorant statement ever.

they hate us because we have soldiers in their country and our noses in thier business, not because we dont beleive in thier god. you dont see them raining jets into the vatican do you?

we dont provoke them? uh, why dont i, say, plant a north korean troop in your general vicinity, not even during war with them. lets just put them there and see how you react.

now, whether or not we should have soliders in their country, our noses in thier business and whether these actions and wars are just is a completely different debate altogether, one that i am not adressing.
someone understands, and 5-90 giving us another glimpse into his ignorance how all arabs are evil and hate americans.

[rocklandxjer]

no one is saying all arabs are evil, it is a fact, the islamic religion is based, not soley mind you, on bringing everyone to the True Faith and to Allah. those who resist are infidel and are sinners against THEIR God. over the past, what, thousand years, they have raged war with other countries and groups, not civil bouts, or monetary trifles, but Holy Wars. of course there are lesser muslims who do not believe that we should all be killed. but there are enough that you see men and women and children in the street burning the american flag and saying death to americans.

i guess saying crazy religion was pretty ignorant though, there are some points to the islamic religion that do seem like it is a good religion. no swearing, drinking, all that stuff. theoretical.
communism is one of the smartest and most efficient systems of government, theoretically. but in practice, due to the human nature, it is by far the worst, because in the human society, "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and therefor it cannot exist without corruption. same with islam. the Holy men in those islamic countries see us as infidel, as well as threats to their nation (whatever threats they see us as) they then impress these feelings among their citizens, that we are the infidel and must die because we sin against allah. thats why the citizens hate us.

granted again, i am not saying ALL muslims hate americans, but enough do...
especially because they are willing to die trying to "bring infidels closer to Allah" which results in their attaining 40 virgins in heaven.

[Kejtar]

How did that become a thread about muslims? Y'all got issues, that's all I can say :D

[goodburbon]

Wahabism is an enemy, not mainstream islam AFAIK.

I saw some dumbass lebanese woman on television (ABC, shows their agenda) screaming to the camera that this was Bush's fault that Israel was bombing them.

Wrong! It was her fault, and her families fault, and her friends fault. You may say to yourself "what the hell are you talking about?" Bottom line is that these violent extremists could not operate in that country without the permissiveness of its people. They bring it upon themselves, and they allow it to be brought upon them, then bitch and moan when someone won't put up with it.

[Roxtar]

maybe a little less bang from the US once in awhile wouldnt put him there with a knife in the first place.:rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle: :rattle:
:explosion

[rocklandxjer]

i think it started with jpars saying a little less bang from america, and the war on terror is just current events (sorry muslims)

i agree sorta with you goodburton, however i think that the people are not as corrupt as they are devoted to their religion. some one claims to be a mullah or like a prophet, and they cant deny him for fear that they are possibly denying Allah, so whatever he says they believe whole heartedly as Words from Allah. There for as i do think that muslims should think over the idea of killing innocents for THEIR religion, again, not saying all muslims. there are those who believe in Allah and the five pillars, and yet are tolerant of the infidel, just like that new group "jews for jesus"

i dont know, i feel like im bashing the muslims so im just going to stop...
even though i think ive been pretty fair on my accusations and insights..

[Brad M.]

We just couldn't leave it alone as a joke could we? Once again politics trumps all...:passgas:

[seanR]

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a POLOCK with a huge knife comes around the corner...

Here I fixed it now STFU everyone!

[goodburbon]

Here I fixed it now STFU everyone!

Still makes me a southerner.

Wanna ask why the polock was motivated to do such a thing jpars?

Your way of thinking is beautiful, honestly. The truth of the world is, though, that we cannot expect them to accept us if we say, "why don't we put down all of our weapons and hug each other." Have you ever noticed that we will go as far as to harm our own cause to avoid civillian casualties, and that they don't care who they kill? None of us are innocent to them. A child of an infidel is an infidel, and they don't care if they kill children or women. To them none of us is innocent, and if you do not realize that war has been declared on YOU, then you will never win, so convert to islam or die.

[Kejtar]

Here I fixed it now STFU everyone!
so you saw a fish? :D

[seanR]

so you saw a fish? :D
Yea, it made a hell of a mess all over my work bench though.
Next time I will use a Roto-Zip.

[ROOK1]

BANG (http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182) is right.

[Tweeternpi]

What if I only unload one Clip into him? What does that make me? Would want to save the other clip incase some one else trys the same thing.


On a side note it says "a Terrorist" it does not say what country the Terrorist comes from or anything else about this person. A Terrorist does not have to come from the middle east. They could come from Canada, They could come from anywhere.

[Roxtar]

A Terrorist does not have to come from the middle east. They could come from CanadaYea but the Canadian ones only try to annoy you to death.
Just as scary but not nearly as effective.

[5-90]

On a side note it says "a Terrorist" it does not say what country the Terrorist comes from or anything else about this person. A Terrorist does not have to come from the middle east. They could come from Canada, They could come from anywhere.

Thank you - although I think I've said something to that effect (either in this thread or another one, and I just can't be arsed to look right now...)

There are terrorists all over Europe, and there are homegrown terrorists here (they just aren't very active.) Don't forget the Machateros and FMLN in South America as well - I think the only continent "immune" from domestic terrorism is Antarctica...

5-90

[OT]

Here I fixed it now STFU everyone!
From the Urban Dictionary:

1.polock
a bad name for a polish person that mostly cool portuguese people use.

greenhorn#1 - that polock drank 58749837 gallons of sumol cause he thinks hes portuguese
greenhorn#2 - we should probably kill him along with all the other portugee wanna-be polocks.

[OT]

It's like what Lenin said, you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...
No, wait, wrong quote.

[boise49ers]

How did that become a thread about muslims? Y'all got issues, that's all I can say :D
Probably the same way it is taken that all Arabs are extremists. From the lack of education or knowledge about their cultures and religion. Or for that matter even wanting to know about it. I am a Democrat and hunt, off road and basically run the middle of the road, though I have to say lately when it comes to foreign policy I lean left now.
By the way this Democrat would of shot his ass dead too with no time to think about an answer. Plenty of our boys in Iraq and Afganistan are Democrats and have families that are also. Lumping people together just ain't right, it is basically just profiling.
As for terrorists , what do you think the first thing that enters everyones mind is ?
Osama !
The whole mideast thing is spinning out of control and I hate to think what our kids are in for and their kids. War sucks requardless of why you are doing it or whether we think we are justified or not, but yes sometimes we have no other recourse. I totally think we should be in Afganistan and I don't believe the reasons they used to go into Iraq hold water at all.
JMO ! Which I know doesn't account for shit especially living where I do.
Cya !

[ROOK1]

Probably the same way it is taken that all Arabs are extremists. From the lack of education or knowledge about their cultures and religion. Or for that matter even wanting to know about it. I am a Democrat and hunt, off road and basically run the middle of the road, though I have to say lately when it comes to foreign policy I lean left now.
By the way this Democrat would of shot his ass dead too with no time to think about an answer. Plenty of our boys in Iraq and Afganistan are Democrats and have families that are also. Lumping people together just ain't right, it is basically just profiling.
As for terrorists , what do you think the first thing that enters everyones mind is ?
Osama !
The whole mideast thing is spinning out of control and I hate to think what our kids are in for and their kids. War sucks requrdless of why you are doing it or whether we think we are justified or not, but yes sometimes we have no other recourse. I totally think we should be in Afganistan and I don't believe the reasons they used to go into Iraq hold water at all.
JMO ! Which I know doesn't account for shit especially living in where I do.
Cya !

Well said.

[Dvipercop]

Just nuke the entire middle east and be done with it! Ignorance be damned! :D

[Ramsey]

Just nuke the entire middle east and be done with it! Ignorance be damned! :D
Thats the spirit!

[OT]

Thats the spirit!
http://www.clipaday.com/2006/07/president_bush_swears.html

[Ramsey]

http://www.clipaday.com/2006/07/president_bush_swears.html
Thats my hero.

[goodburbon]

mine too, that statement kicks ass.

[boise49ers]

That is the first time I think I really understood WTF he was talking about.
Woo Hoo ! He must just be camera shy :viking:
Just nuke the entire middle east and be done with it! Ignorance be damned! :D
Thats would take care of that problem, what about the other dozen coutries in Africa and Asia that are as extreme or worse then the mid-east countries, oh lets not forget our pals on the Korean Penisula. Of course we already know your answer. Not to hard to figure out :)

[Ramsey]

One giant mass suicide should fix the problem.

[boise49ers]

Yeah we start droppin Nukes that is exactly what it would be.

[jpars]

im sorry to keep the thread going but i think that to say that even part of the Muslim religion is based and practiced upon destroying us (non Muslims) is absolutely ludicrous.

You can quote what the Quaran says about non-Muslims and play that game- But of course i shouldnt bring up passages from the bible discussing smiting down all enemies of the Isrealities with burning flames into eternal hellfire, because, well, now that would just not be appropriate.

I am not a hippie hardcore leftist AT ALL- i just think that the view of Muslims and the vast generalizations expressed are unreasonable.

have you ever known a muslim person? actually? My guess is that if you answer yes to that question, you arent here talking about how they all just want to kill us.


And as much as i love this country, we DO provoke. However, its much, much more complicated then if we provoke them or not. i am in NO way adhereing for letting middle east nations do whatever the hell they want, that is the last thing we need.

[Tom in KY]

Defending the people who brought us; 9-11, captured hostages in Iran, slaughtered the Kuwaitis, go through their own country commiting atrocities against defensless civilians, actively recruit young people around the world to become suicide bombers, kidnapped an Isreali soldier during a cease-fire and killing their own, justifying it by calling them martyrs,, will not make you many friends here.

Nor will it win you any sympathizers.

Blame whoever you want, but the Muslims are the most likely to do these things. There is a basic flaw in a religion that can be interpreted to include rewards for murderers. I know that not all Muslims are persuaded this way, but where does the money go when the local Muslims donate to the church?

When my kids get on-line, I won't see anyone from the Southern Missionary Baptist Convention trying to convince them to kill themselves and as many as possible with them in the name of Jesus. There is a fundamental difference in the two religions.

If we let these countries go unmonitired, how far will they go?

AND, how many more of them would become radical extremists?

Look at North Korea. would monitoring them more closely have given us an idea of what they were doing earlier? Leaving them largely unmonitored has not made them any less hostile towards us.


2 cents from a Kentucky boy, raised with Southern values.

[Ramsey]

Lumping an entire people into one group based on a few, is that what your southern values taught you.

[Kejtar]

Lumping an entire people into one group based on a few, is that what your southern values taught you.
I'm with Ramsey and couple others on this one. There are good people in middle east that are muslim and there are good muslims in US. There are bad muslims all over the world as well.

What was the name of that idiot that blew up that building couple years back? First thing everyone did was blame the muslims... then it turned out he was a local boy....... so now are all locals bad cause some asshat blows up a federal building?

[Tom in KY]

I know that not all Muslims are persuaded this way,


Quoting myself.

[boise49ers]

Defending the people who brought us; 9-11, captured hostages in Iran, slaughtered the Kuwaitis, go through their own country commiting atrocities against defensless civilians, actively recruit young people around the world to become suicide bombers, kidnapped an Isreali soldier during a cease-fire and killing their own, justifying it by calling them martyrs,, will not make you many friends here.

Nor will it win you any sympathizers.

Blame whoever you want, but the Muslims are the most likely to do these things. There is a basic flaw in a religion that can be interpreted to include rewards for murderers. I know that not all Muslims are persuaded this way, but where does the money go when the local Muslims donate to the church?

When my kids get on-line, I won't see anyone from the Southern Missionary Baptist Convention trying to convince them to kill themselves and as many as possible with them in the name of Jesus. There is a fundamental difference in the two religions.

If we let these countries go unmonitired, how far will they go?

AND, how many more of them would become radical extremists?

Look at North Korea. would monitoring them more closely have given us an idea of what they were doing earlier? Leaving them largely unmonitored has not made them any less hostile towards us.


2 cents from a Kentucky boy, raised with Southern values.

I was gonna jump in again, but decided enough for tonight.
Good Night XJers !

Ok wait I just got this joke in my e-mail. I'm Democrap, but this shit is funny.

Bear Hunting :


The Pope took a couple of days off to visit the mountains of Alaska
for some sight-seeing.

He was cruising along the campground in the Pope-mobile when there
was a frantic commotion just at the edge of the woods.

A helpless Democrat, wearing sandals, shorts, a "Save the Whales" hat, and a

"To Hell with Bush" T-shirt, was screaming while struggling frantically,
thrashing around trying to free himself from the grasp of a 8 foot grizzly.

As the Pope watched horrified, a group of Republican loggers came racing up.


One quickly fired a .44 magnum into the bear's chest. The other two reached
up and pulled the bleeding, semiconscious Democrat from the bear's grasp.

Then using long clubs, the three loggers finished off the bear and
two of them threw it onto the bed of their truck while the other
tenderly placed the injured Democrat in the back seat.

As they prepared to leave, the Pope summoned them to come over. "I
give you my blessing for your brave actions!" he told them.

"I heard there was a bitter hatred between Republican loggers and
Democratic Environmental activists but now I've seen with my own eyes
that this is not true."

As the Pope drove off, one of the loggers asked his buddies "Who was
that guy?"

"It was the Pope," another replied. "He's in direct contact with
heaven and has access to all wisdom."

"Well," the logger said, "he may have access to all wisdom but he
sure doesn't know anything about bear hunting!

By the way, how is the bait holding up, or do we need to go back to
Massachusetts and snatch another one?"

[99xjache]

I was gonna jump in again, but decided enough for tonight.
Good Night XJers !

Ok wait I just got this joke in my e-mail. I'm Democrap, but this shit is funny.

Bear Hunting :


The Pope took a couple of days off to visit the mountains of Alaska
for some sight-seeing.

He was cruising along the campground in the Pope-mobile when there
was a frantic commotion just at the edge of the woods.

A helpless Democrat, wearing sandals, shorts, a "Save the Whales" hat, and a

"To Hell with Bush" T-shirt, was screaming while struggling frantically,
thrashing around trying to free himself from the grasp of a 8 foot grizzly.

As the Pope watched horrified, a group of Republican loggers came racing up.


One quickly fired a .44 magnum into the bear's chest. The other two reached
up and pulled the bleeding, semiconscious Democrat from the bear's grasp.

Then using long clubs, the three loggers finished off the bear and
two of them threw it onto the bed of their truck while the other
tenderly placed the injured Democrat in the back seat.

As they prepared to leave, the Pope summoned them to come over. "I
give you my blessing for your brave actions!" he told them.

"I heard there was a bitter hatred between Republican loggers and
Democratic Environmental activists but now I've seen with my own eyes
that this is not true."

As the Pope drove off, one of the loggers asked his buddies "Who was
that guy?"

"It was the Pope," another replied. "He's in direct contact with
heaven and has access to all wisdom."


"Well," the logger said, "he may have access to all wisdom but he
sure doesn't know anything about bear hunting!

By the way, how is the bait holding up, or do we need to go back to
Massachusetts and snatch another one?"



Now that's just funny right there! I dont care who you are. Funnaay!

[goodburbon]

For some reason it seems that no matter what happens middle easterners just like to blow each other up. That is fine with me, I don't care, leave them to their business and keep us out of it. When they bring the violence to our streets and start killing civillians.......F-them. History has proven that these people just can't seem to behave, and now they have turned their hatred upon us.

When the world news shows SOME muslims DANCING in the streets and cheering when they find out that some asshat terrorist has killed many Americans, I want to see every one of those pieces of walking shit (the guys celebrating, not every muslim) blown to hell. I would not celebrate their deaths as they would celebrate mine, I would calmly ask "anyone else wanna f- with us?"

SOME muslims just kill you if you don't convert to their style of belief. If a small sect of Christians did this it would be the equivalent of telling a Jehovas witness to piss off cause you're all full up on Jesus this month, and him lopping off your head and dancing in your yard. How many times do you think this would happen before people start greeting JW's with 180 grain chunks of lead propelled at high velocity. Middle eastern culture is permissive of this behaviour, and as such, they cannot police themselves.

The only way to win this war is by adapting to the battle tactics of the enemy. You cannot fight a rank and file war against a guerilla army, you will lose. You cannot fight a guerilla war against a terrorist army, you will lose. WE MUST TERRORIZE THE TERRORISTS and motivate their families into action. Not all muslims. I mean TERRORISTS.

For example. Some countries have rewarded the families of suicide bombers. What if we were to round up the immedeate families of suicide bombers and sodomize them with bricks in a bath of pigs blood in the town square then shoot them in the heads. How quickly would the mothers, brothers, and fathers of would-be terrorists put a halt to their sons terror activities for fear of their own souls? Far fewer innocents would die in the long run, and we beat them at their own game. Cruel? yes, but from a utility standpoint 40 people dead in the next year to prevent the deaths of 4000 in the next 4 wins out in the numbers game. Democrats LOOOOOOOOVE numbers. ( the national debt is........this many soldiers have died under Bush...........its not a baby before x months........there are x thousand homeless in america......... the war is costing x dollars.)

(BTW I'm not Republican)

I'm sorry if I strayed a bit there, I have a tendency to be quite tangential sometimes.party1:

[jpars]

Lumping an entire people into one group based on a few, is that what your southern values taught you.

thank you.

I just dont understand how you can debate with the FACT that the number of Islamic extremists is in the thousands, while other Muslims who have absolutely no comparable agenda whatsoever is in the millions. It blows my mind people can be so naive.

And you think their religion is that bloody? Excuse me, I am Catholic, and proud to be. But we have an equally (if not bloodier) past then they do. COugh Crusades cough?

I can 100% understand the right wing point of view on middle eastern foreign policy. Although i dont agree with all of it, I see its working points and why people can take that side.

One thing i cannot understand is how people can be so utterly blind as to put every Muslim and every Muslim nation as an American-Hating Terror Orgy. It deeply disturbs me that people are so ignorant as to truly, completely beleive that.

[Tom in KY]

The crusades, cough cough, are over.
Divisions of North and South may still exist in the hearts of people but the Civil War is over. I don't HATE anyone . I do not trust people, but that's true of most thinking people. I see the Muslims on the TV screaming about Jihad, then another comes on condemning the other for the violence. Theirs is a divided culture. I wonder how many extremists realize the err of their ways when their baby sister or their mother is blown away by a fellow extremist suicide bomber? They surely can't trust each other, how would they know who has been indoctrinated and who has not? How can WE know who is truly an extremist in training? Can any of you imagine what the plan could be for the next round of terror?

Did any of you guys see the movie X? It was the story of Malcom X. I was a little outraged by the attitude during the first 2 of the 3 hours (long movie). As the story came close to an end, the division became very clear. There are peaceable Muslims and there are Jihad mongerers. When he made the trip to the holy land ( I can't even remember what they call it), he saw every color and every Islamic conviction of man. All together in one place serving the same God (Allah). That changed my view of Muslims as a whole. There is almost no turning back for a religious extremist. They believe that they are right and that is a powerful motivation for them. But even Malcom (an extreme type of militant leader of the time) was enlightened by peace.

You guys accuse me of lumping all into one category? I disagree,
one religion, yes.
One category, no.
Just the same as Christians can be divided into different versions of the same basic faith, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc.. The Muslims have divided into groups and some of those groups have gone over the deep end. I can't support some of the actions of "Christians" in this country, rev. Phelps and his followers, protesting at soldier's funerals, is only one example. I don't see any other Christians making a massacre of the protests though.

The religious orders in the US are more peaceable than those in the Muslim countries. When those unruly countries become a threat to our allies, then the problem becomes ours. Otherwise, what would most Christians know about Islam? Not much, in my opinion. The radicals are the ones who draw the attention in any religion or political realm. The radical extremists of the Muslim variety are by far, more dangerous to everyone around them.

[rocklandxjer]

NO ONE HERE IS LUMPING
i think everyone who has spoken in this thread about muslims has said, not all muslims but a bunch, or "im not saying that all muslims..."

we just simply said that you cant argue with the fact that the exremists want all infidel to either convert to the "True Faith" or die and be judged by Allah. That my friend is scary.
and i disagree with the whole if a group of christians lopped peoples heads off... they would just be seen as lunatics, and would be condemned by the catholic church. If the pope, like the holy men of middle eastern islam, condoned murderous acts to promote Gods cause, and then a group of several thousand joined, whilst others merely worshiped the God that their father had worshiped, then i would say it could be seen as the same thing. the "holy men" over there condone the killing of infidel. it is in the koran that war may and should be used to bring the infidel to Allah.

i never said i HATE muslims, but like TOM said, i dont trust them, hes right, you cant tell whose a shi'a or whatever sect of islam they are, whose a radical whose a pacifist, whose an extremist. they dont have labels or nametags that say

HI MY NAME IS_________
I AM A _________ MUSLIM
MY DEGREE OF DEVOTION IS ________
I AM WILLING TO_______FOR ALLAH

when a religion condones violence (holy violence?) it should be hard to trust the people of that religion.

NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS
but
WE ARE INFIDEL TO ALL MUSLIMS whether they are extreme or not, and that is why i cannot trust muslims (that i do not know) and that is why they are grouped together by so many

rant over

[Roxtar]

Say what you want.
It's called profiling and it's just plain smart.

Are all hispanic teenagers riding in hydraulically lifted Chevys gang bangers?
No.
Do they, however, constitute a large percentage of them?
Yes.

Are all Muslims extremist Jihad?
No.
Do they constitute the largest percentage of them (actually, all of them)?
Yes.

If you get on an airplane and see a couple 25 year old arab men does a certain thought pop into your mind?
If you say no, you're either a liar or an fool.

[boise49ers]

Say what you want.
It's called profiling and it's just plain smart.

Are all hispanic teenagers riding in hydraulically lifted Chevys gang bangers?
No.
Do they, however, constitute a large percentage of them?
Yes.

Are all Muslims extremist Jihad?
No.
Do they constitute the largest percentage of them (actually, all of them)?
Yes.

If you get on an airplane and see a couple 25 year old arab men does a certain thought pop into your mind?
If you say no, you're either a liar or an fool.

Does that make it right ? No ! Profile is profiling. I'm sure during the Christain Crusade people seen Christains and thought oh boy there goes the neighborhood. The world didn't start when we were born, this crap has been going on since man decided there needs to be eternal life. Every religion has gone thru their slaughter fest. Even Mormons in the Pioneer days were known to do a little killing. Am I afraid of all the Mormons in Boise and there are a lot.Hell no they are my friends and co-workers. Ain't none of us untouchable. Catholics like the guy said are a good example. They were not exactly squeaky clean during Hitlers Germany.If people believe in some kind of God they are going to try an exploit it to benefit themselves. Not all , but some.
It is ugly , but part of the cycle. You'd think by now we could figure out a way to make it all work together. Myself I just stay away from all of it until somebody figures out how to clean it all up or get rid of it.
JMO again which don't mean shit :confused1

[OT]

All a person has to do is watch the news and read these threads to clearly see that Atheism rules and religion sucks!
How many times have you heard of Atheist suicide bombers blowing shit up, in the name of Oh Whatevah?

[woody]

All a person has to do is watch the news and read these threads to clearly see that Atheism rules and religion sucks!
How many times have you heard of Atheist suicide bombers blowing shit up, in the name of Oh Whateveah?

:D

[Roxtar]

Does that make it right ? No ! Profile is profiling. I agree on one point, profiling is profiling.
We differ on whether it's a good or bad thing.
Profiling was just a basic part of good police work till the ACLU and other dumb-ass groups made it politically incorrect.
Profiling is simply spending resources looking at the most likely candidates rather than wasting time looking at everyone.
Do you think airport security should spend as much time checking out an eighty year old nun as they spend on Osama's 25 year old nephew?
No? Then you believe in profiling.
Is it a perfect science? No.
Who knows, perhaps some day we'll read about a pissed off eighty year old nun blowing up a Starbucks.
It's possible.
Till that happens I'm perfectly fine with watching out for the most realistic subjects, whoever that happens to be.

[boise49ers]

I agree on one point, profiling is profiling.
We differ on whether it's a good or bad thing.
Profiling was just a basic part of good police work till the ACLU and other dumb-ass groups made it politically incorrect.
Profiling is simply spending resources looking at the most likely candidates rather than wasting time looking at everyone.
Do you think airport security should spend as much time checking out an eighty year old nun as they spend on Osama's 25 year old nephew?
No? Then you believe in profiling.
Is it a perfect science? No.
Who knows, perhaps some day we'll read about a pissed off eighty year old nun blowing up a Starbucks.
It's possible.
Till that happens I'm perfectly fine with watching out for the most realistic subjects, whoever that happens to be.
I totally agree there as long as it ain't me. You do have to watch out for some of them Grannies though. Did you hear about the one who blew the guys dick off In Australia ?
Of course he deserved it, but hey man they can be dangerous :gee:

[red91]

If you get on an airplane and see a couple 25 year old arab men does a certain thought pop into your mind?
If you say no, you're either a liar or an fool.

Leave hinkley out of this.

[Bent]

:cheers:

[Tom in KY]

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0000032V8.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1056633763_.jpg

[boise49ers]

I just ripped that CD for my XJ the other day. Awesome album :sunshine:

[Tom in KY]

Two words, three syllables;

Low


Ri-


dah

[boise49ers]

When I was a teenager years ago, I had one. Funny how this thread has taken on its own life. Started out as a joke and went in ten different directions:yelclap: :piratefla :wave:

[Roxtar]

I totally agree there as long as it ain't me. Even if it is me.
Hell, if middle aged, blond haired, Christian, dutch guys start blowing shit up I want to see them (us) all watched carefully.
Even if that means I have to deal with a little shit, too.
I don't want to die at the hands of someone who looks like me any more than someone who looks like Osama bin-fawktard.

AND
If someone ever did start killing people in the name of Jesus Christ, I sure as hell wouldn't give them protection from those trying to stop them.

[boise49ers]

Even if it is me.
Hell, if middle aged, blond haired, Christian, dutch guys start blowing shit up I want to see them (us) all watched carefully.
Even if that means I have to deal with a little shit, too.
I don't want to die at the hands of someone who looks like me any more than someone who looks like Osama bin-fawktard.

AND
If someone ever did start killing people in the name of Jesus Christ, I sure as hell wouldn't give them protection from those trying to stop them.

I hear yuh !

[BIGWOODY]

I'm a republican and if it were up to me I'd leave the towel heads alone to do themselves in much like others walking around in our country already. Then I'd be drilling like a mofo in Alaska and off the gulf coast (yes Florida also, you whinny not wanting to see an oil rig off your coast bitches). I'd also be putting more effort into making cars get more MPG and alternative fuels instead of building one with 500hp and 0-60 times of less than 5 seconds. To hell with the Arab countries , they've been fighting long before we ever got involved over there, let one of them finish it.

[falcon556]

Even if it is me.
Hell, if middle aged, blond haired, Christian, dutch guys start blowing shit up I want to see them (us) all watched carefully.
Even if that means I have to deal with a little shit, too.
I don't want to die at the hands of someone who looks like me any more than someone who looks like Osama bin-fawktard.

AND
If someone ever did start killing people in the name of Jesus Christ, I sure as hell wouldn't give them protection from those trying to stop them.

The problem with profiling is that it targets specific races and national origins. Many members of the religion of peace are not Arabs, some Arabs are not muslims. Reid the shoe bomber, the dirty bomber, the American Taliban and the Beltway snipers were not Arabs. Hard to profile religion.

[BOB]

I believe profiling is formed from instinct.
Are Taiwan tools cheap. Yes. Will I buy a Taiwan breaker bar? Hell NO

...BOB

[jpars]

I'd also be putting more effort into making cars get more MPG and alternative fuels instead of building one with 500hp and 0-60 times of less than 5 seconds.

im pretty sure that inderictly goes against half the things this site pertains to :)

[boise49ers]

im pretty sure that inderictly goes against half the things this site pertains to :)


Gearing,Traction,Clearance who needs Horsepower ?

[Ramsey]

Gearing,Traction,Clearance who needs Horsepower ?
yes, lets talk about jeeps on this damn jeep forum for a change

[SBrad001]

yes, lets talk about jeeps on this damn jeep forum for a change

X2

[Tom in KY]

Flame suit; ON

I drive a Southern Republican XJ with only one right wing and a big blind spot on the left. It sucks gas at an incredible rate and destroys the ozone. It has high traction tires and carries me and my guns to my favorite Wildlife slaughtering areas.

You guys like Burgoo?

[Ramsey]

whats burgoo? i like pie.

[Tom in KY]

It's like a thick vegetable soup. We put in whatever animal we have in the freezer. Deer works best, but I've had it with duck and turkey combined. Add a little more chili powder to kill the gamey taste.

Your tongue will beat the roof of your mouth out begging for more!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgoo

[Tom in KY]

OH!

You can't throw it together in one afternoon.

It takes about 3 days for it to get right. And it's still better the next day.

[karstic]

Damn Tom that sounds good.

Can you use fowl (ducks/goose) for the meat?

[Tom in KY]

Yep, mix it with turkey to get that oily duck/goose thing calmed down.
I have also put Kielbasa in it. That makes the birds even better.

[falcon556]

I'm a republican and if it were up to me I'd leave the towel heads alone to do themselves in much like others walking around in our country already. Then I'd be drilling like a mofo in Alaska and off the gulf coast (yes Florida also, you whinny not wanting to see an oil rig off your coast bitches). I'd also be putting more effort into making cars get more MPG and alternative fuels instead of building one with 500hp and 0-60 times of less than 5 seconds. To hell with the Arab countries , they've been fighting long before we ever got involved over there, let one of them finish it.

The only alternative energy that we need is nuclear. Not long ago, the guvmint restricted the size of toilet tanks to save our vanishing fresh water. Now they want to use large quantities of water to plant and produce alcehol.
Somehow, we need to induce some sort of sanity in our insane policies. Nuclear powerplants are bad because of small amounts of waste, coal powerplants are OK burning close to 2 billion tons of coal a year, (yes billions) turning coal to CO2 and other undesirable byproducts such as SO2.
We pay terrorists to buy their oil because drilling in Alaska might upset Caribou orgasm (it doesn't), drilling off the coasts is bad for marine life (best fishing spots next to offshore platforms that create and support entire ecosystems), drilling for gas in the Rockies would destroy pristine wilderness (it is not inhabited because it is rocks and mountains, a lot better suited to drilling than my backyard).
Even if we drilled and extracted the oil, we don't have the refinery capacity to handle it. We managed to put ourselves in such a vulnerable position that is hard to believe it is simple stupidity.