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xjmania
April 7th, 2007, 18:51
I was checking out the Times and noticed the Liberty was getting an update. The last sentence says that it reminds them of the Jeep cult classic: the Cherokee...the body lines seem similar, but im sure the drivetrain includes IFS which always disappoints me.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/04/automobiles/autoshow/NUGGETJeepLiberty.html

dcXJ
April 7th, 2007, 18:57
nastiness....never liked the Liberty :(

Mutant_Xj
April 7th, 2007, 19:00
it looks like a mini comander

VinceYJ
April 7th, 2007, 20:18
Dodge Nitro?

cjsxj87
April 7th, 2007, 20:56
It looks like a little comander.

ZacSquatch
April 7th, 2007, 21:05
looks like a big turd

xjmania
April 7th, 2007, 21:52
Haha...bottom line, I wouldn't drive it.

Chero-King
April 7th, 2007, 22:04
More pictures:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=913855

NighthawkXJ
April 7th, 2007, 22:27
i kinda like the look of the new patriat, but i have not read anything about them yet to see what they are all about.

XJ Eric
April 7th, 2007, 22:51
All of them look like what the cherokee could have looked like if they hadn't decided to get rid of it. But in my opinion they never really got rid of it they just gave it IFS and gave it a new name.
What it all boils down to is that we want a Cherokee/Liberty/Compass that has SOLID AXLES!!!!!
Hell, they still sell cherokees overseas. We just call them libertys over here.

ddeadserious
April 7th, 2007, 23:21
Saw one on the road the other day. Thought it was a Nitro until he cut me off and I saw it said Jeep. Pulled up next to it, and it didn't say Liberty on the side, it said Cherokee. :O

Rockhound89
April 7th, 2007, 23:25
if you ask me this is the BEST LOOKING LIBERTY out there hands down:greensmok

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/jeep-buggy-rockcrawler-sandcar-trailrig-trail-rated_W0QQitemZ160102503364QQihZ006QQcategoryZ4391 6QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

almondjoy137
April 8th, 2007, 01:54
good call...x2

NighthawkXJ
April 8th, 2007, 06:48
yeah, i love that liberty

TrueBlueXJ
April 8th, 2007, 08:54
Big improvement, but still a Jeep Liberace. Strictly for the ladies.

nrd2052
April 8th, 2007, 19:20
terrible


(Liberace comment = hilarious)

liqwid
April 8th, 2007, 20:34
With Chrysler up for sale I'm hoping the new owner doesn't continue to screw up Jeep the way that Daimler has.

VinceYJ
April 9th, 2007, 18:56
I've said it once and I'll say it again. If GM buys it and uses the H3 platform to make some jeep models...I wouldn't complain...its a much better platform than the stupid Liberty and the even stupider Compass.
Here is the "Vince" plan for Jeep to make more sales in the right markets:
1) Put a diesel in the new JK. Other than that, leave it the f**k alone!
2) Put the next-gen Grand cherokee onto the 4door JK chassis. Use above-mentioned diesel engine.
3) Keep the commander for the yuppies. Its not so bad and it will compete with the tahoe/yukon from GM. Just lift it up about 3" and put some bigger tires on it.
4)Build a "new" commanche onto the JK 4door platform. Again use the aformentioned diesel engine. Make it come with a "rubicon" package...33's and all the same gear as the JK rubicons. Very easy...its called platform sharing.
5) Throw the "compass" into the garbage can. "Copy" the subaru "forester" type crossover vehicle. Keep it with the 4cyl, but add a smaller version of a diesel motor as an option.
6) Use the dodge ram 2500 platform and engine to build a Jeep "heavy-duty" pickup...people will buy these to haul thier trail-jeeps because it says jeep on it.
7) Steal the Durango platform, lift it, and compete with the Hummer H2.

dcXJ
April 9th, 2007, 19:16
I've said it once and I'll say it again. If GM buys it and uses the H3 platform to make some jeep models...I wouldn't complain...its a much better platform than the stupid Liberty and the even stupider Compass.
Here is the "Vince" plan for Jeep to make more sales in the right markets:
1) Put a diesel in the new JK. Other than that, leave it the f**k alone!
2) Put the next-gen Grand cherokee onto the 4door JK chassis. Use above-mentioned diesel engine.
3) Keep the commander for the yuppies. Its not so bad and it will compete with the tahoe/yukon from GM. Just lift it up about 3" and put some bigger tires on it.
4)Build a "new" commanche onto the JK 4door platform. Again use the aformentioned diesel engine. Make it come with a "rubicon" package...33's and all the same gear as the JK rubicons. Very easy...its called platform sharing.
5) Throw the "compass" into the garbage can. "Copy" the subaru "forester" type crossover vehicle. Keep it with the 4cyl, but add a smaller version of a diesel motor as an option.
6) Use the dodge ram 2500 platform and engine to build a Jeep "heavy-duty" pickup...people will buy these to haul thier trail-jeeps because it says jeep on it.
7) Steal the Durango platform, lift it, and compete with the Hummer H2.

The Vince Plan actually makes some sense...generally I like it.:yelclap:

TrueBlueXJ
April 9th, 2007, 19:32
Yeah, I can go for most of that plan Vince, especially bringing back the Commanche and adding a HD pickup. The Gladiator comes to mind, but I don't know if that will ever become more than a concept.

VinceYJ
April 9th, 2007, 23:25
I forgot to add:
Throw the Liberty into the garbage. Design a new platform, solid body on frame design. Use some of the old cherokee, some of that one the sell in japan, and something new. Keep it simple...put it on 32's from the factory...call it a CHEROKEE!

90exjay
April 9th, 2007, 23:30
Dodge Nitro?

Same chassis, and suspension.

Sean

TrueBlueXJ
April 11th, 2007, 06:18
I forgot to add:
Throw the Liberty into the garbage. Design a new platform, solid body on frame design. Use some of the old cherokee, some of that one the sell in japan, and something new. Keep it simple...put it on 32's from the factory...call it a CHEROKEE!

I love that Japanese Cherokee. I lost the old link I had to pics of it. Anybody still got it?