Computer Guru's....

[Ghost]

I got tired of this age old P3 and got a new motherboard and cpu last week. I ended up getting a new case and video card too. When I tried to put this hard drive in the new case I got a stop error. 0x0000007b (0xeb41f84c, 0xc0000034, 0x00000000) Innaccessible_boot_device

Obvousely the HD is bootable bc I am using it in the old case to post this. Is there anywhere I can get troubleshooting help on line? Have any of you computer tech people come across this before? What other info do you need to help me?
It said to run a chkdsk and I did and it was fine. Oh yea what is the /f switch?

[old_man]

Moving a hard drive from one machine to another can be an issue if you don't reinstall a new operating system. As a system is loaded, specific drivers are selected and loaded to match the hardware. You now have different hardware, so you have the wrong drivers.

[Ghost]

I did run the install cd rom on this computer. I thought that would install the drivers I would need.

[sjkimmel99]

Can the bios detect it?

Is the HD controller on the new MB expecting a SATA drive rather than an IDE drive?

Is the order of boot devices in the bios such that the HD is listed? there's no other media (floppy or CD) in any other boot device ahead of the HD? Might try moving the HD to the head of the list.

An old P3 system? What's that then, a 20gb drive? Windows 98? Once you touch a finely balanced and integrated system, be it a Jeep or a computer, the situation just goes to heck in a hurry.

Just had another thought - make sure the jumpers on the drive make it the master and that no other device on that cable has master set. And if there's one to make it a boot device that's set. Wouldn't think it would be different from the donor computer but who knows.

[Elfwizard1975]

I did run the install cd rom on this computer. I thought that would install the drivers I would need.

When I upgraded my MB and Video card last I had to re install windows, would not boot with the new combo.

He's right thats probably your problem.

[kd5dwy]

As Old_Man said, you are receiving this error because your old motherboard and new motherboards have different chipsets for the hard drive controller. You will need to tell the computer not to expect the old chipset. The easiest way I've found to do this is to remove the hard drive controller from Device Manager and let the computer re-detect it.

First option is to try to boot in safe mode. If that comes up, go into device manager and delete all devices and reboot. The computer will detect all of the devices and install the necessary drivers (it will require the driver disk that came with the motherboard).

Another option is to boot on your old computer and remove all devices in Device Manager, then install the drive in the new computer.

If neither of those work you'll be better off backing up your data and re-installing the OS.

[alsodon]

It said to run a chkdsk and I did and it was fine. Oh yea what is the /f switch? The /f switch tells the OS to fix any errors that chkdsk finds.

[RichP]

put the old drive back in the old system, boot it up, I'm assuming win2k or XP and an intel processor? if so go into the hardware manager. right click my computer, properties, harware, delete the whole hardware stack then shut it down/poweroff. This will force windows to redetect everything and rebuild the driver database. I've had limited success going from P3 to P4 with some minor to major kernel issues. If it's win98 forgetaboutit, reinstall. If you went from intel to amd reinstall. If you have any kind of diskmapping software or overlays due to drive limitations on the old board, reinstall.
Bottom line though, reinstall the OS, chipset drivers and go from there for the most reliable setup.

[Ghost]

It is a 60gb HD that was put in a couple years ago when the origianl one failed. It is win2000 pro os. (I actually like that one!) I figured it was MD chiprelated. I have the BIOS set for the HD first, flopy second, and cdrom third. I have a USB external drive that I can backup that one to but dont think I have the software to do it. Never bothered to back up HD. What is the easyest way? I know a little bit about this stuff but not a lot. I'd say above average computer skills.

[sjkimmel99]

If I remember right Win2k either didn't have or had very limited PnP capability so even if you could get the old disk to start booting you'd have to fight your way through a bunch of driver issues.
For the USB drive, assuming the old machine recognizes it as an external drive, sort of like a memory stick, just another external storage device, you can drag and drop whatever files or folders you want to save. If the old system doesn't have USB ports you can buy an add-in USB card fairly inexpensively, usually under $20. You'll need to reinstall the OS from scratch on the new PC so it configures the drivers correctly (you should have a disk that came with the motherboard ) so you probably don't want to backup any OS files and you'll need to reinstall any other software - office, music, etc., from other install media so you're just trying to save any data that you care about.
Maxtor had a utility called "Maxblast" they provided with new disks to allow for the formatting and cloning of one disk to another. Came as a bootable CD and let you copy from the old disk to the new disk, Maxtor doesn't exist any more but you can find copies of it via Google. If you can burn a CD of it on the old pc it might help a bit in making sure the new PC can see the old disk. Don't know if it would help with the USB drive - drag and drop is still probably the best approach there.
Good luck.

[Ghost]

Ok, just had a thought would I be better off getting a SATA HD and xp and installing it and using this old drive as a secondary drive? I'll likely save the HD in the external drive and try the removing of the Drivers first though. I was hoping it would be a simple plug in deal but as with most things in my life it was not!

[RichP]

Your old board has USB1=slow, new board will have usb 2=very fast, new board *should* have about 4 or maybe 8 onboard USB ports plus two more header connectors that connect to the front of the new case. If the board has sata hard drive connectors and one ide connector I would suggest go pick up a sata hard drive in the 200+ gig size and keep that 60gig as a spare, put the cd/dvd drive on the one ide header. Professionally I don't even put floppy drives in systems I build unless the customer specifically wants one and then I usually recommend an external USB floppy instead.
No need to back up the old drive, try the deleting all the hardware thing, that will also remove the old chipset drivers for the old motherboard. Going from a P3 to a P4 like this is a crap shoot. Going from say a P4 478 socket to a 775 P4 is less of a crap shoot but still wears that same moniker.
What I would suggest is before you do anything go to the microsoft website and pull down the win2k service packs, look for 'network deployment' for professional IT sites. You might also need sata drivers for the win2kPro, depends on the bios, if the windows installer recognizes the sata drive and lets you format it then it should be good, if not you will need to interupt the installer [F4 i think], insert the sata driver on a floppy and let windows load it into memory. Just some thoughts.

[Ghost]

Thanks rich and everyone else. I don't know if I will get this tired before Monday. I have restored HD's and done all kinds of hardare installs but never anything this extensive. I will try to get on this soon.

[87manche]

worst comes to worst, do a stand in place install.
You may have to reinstall some of your software, but it will leave the majority of your settings/software intact.
That's what Bill recommends anyway.

[Ghost]

Ok I tried to delete the Device manager info, some things where not removable, and install the HD in my new case. Did not work got the same error message. I was looking at newegg and found this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148215

I have heard from a local shop that WD has problems and there drives fail more then other companies. Anyone have any first hand experience with that being true or not? Is this a decent drive? I like the price.

[RichP]

I'd go with a seagate, 5yr warranty... Though I did have a couple of segate 80's crap out in the last case of OEM packaged drives I got. Saving grace was they went fast during burnin which is the purpose of burn in, eliminate infant mortality....or SIDS :D

[pacherokee]

Check out this forum http://www.pcguide.com/vb/ they are to PC's what we are to Jeeps...

Hope it helps