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Gil BullyKatz
January 20th, 2007, 17:34
NEW YORK - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton launched a trailblazing campaign for the White House on Saturday, a former first lady turned political powerhouse intent on becoming the first female president. "I'm in, and I'm in to win," she said.

In a videotaped message posted on her Web site, Clinton said she was eager to start a dialogue with voters about challenges she hoped to tackle as president — affordable health care, deficit reduction and bringing the "right" end to the Iraq war.

"I'm not just starting a campaign, though, I'm beginning a conversation with you, with America," she said. "Let's talk. Let's chat. The conversation in Washington has been just a little one-sided lately, don't you think?"

Clinton's announcement, while widely anticipated, was nonetheless historic in a fast-developing campaign that has already seen the emergence of a formidable black contender, Democratic Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) of Illinois.

In an instant, Clinton became the most credible female candidate ever to seek the presidency and the first presidential spouse to attempt to return to the White House in her own right. Her husband, Bill, served two terms as president from 1993 to 2001.

"I am one of the millions of women who have waited all their lives to see the first woman sworn in as president of the United States — and now we have our best opportunity to see that dream fulfilled," said Ellen Malcolm, president of EMILY's list, which raises money for Democratic women who run for office.

With her immense star power, vast network of supporters and donors and seasoned team of political advisers, the 59-year-old Clinton long has topped every national poll of potential Democratic contenders.

But since joining the field, Obama has secured the backing of a number of prominent fundraisers, including billionaire philanthropist George Soros, stepping up the pressure on Clinton to disclose her plans.

Her controversial tenure as first lady left her a deeply polarizing figure among voters, leading many Democrats to doubt Clinton's viability in a general election.

In a detailed statement posted on her Web site, Clinton sought to acknowledge and bat away such doubts.

"I have never been afraid to stand up for what I believe in or to face down the Republican machine," she wrote. "After nearly $70 million spent against my campaigns in New York and two landslide wins, I can say I know how Washington Republicans think, how they operate and how to beat them."

Recently, Clinton has clashed with many in her own party over the Iraq war.

Clinton supported the 2002 resolution authorizing military intervention in Iraq. She has refused to recant her vote or call for a deadline for the removal of troops. She has announced her opposition to President Bush's troop increase in Iraq and has introduced legislation capping troop levels.

"A woman candidate could find it easier to run in peacetime, rather than wartime, but Senator Clinton's tried to position herself as a serious person on national security," said Andrew Polsky, a presidential historian at Hunter College. "But that means she's staked out difficult position on the war that won't make it easy for her to get the Democratic nomination."

With a $14 million campaign treasury, Clinton starts with an impressive fundraising advantage over the rest of the Democratic field. But Obama and others have started to secure fundraising commitments from New York, California and other deep-pocketed, Clinton-friendly areas.

Her creation of a presidential exploratory committee, announced Saturday, allows her to raise money for the campaign; she already has lined up campaign staff.

In tone and substance, Clinton's videotaped announcement recalled her first Senate race in New York in 2000, where she conducted a "listening tour" of the state's 62 counties before formally entering the contest.

She promised a three-day series of Web chats with voters beginning Monday and prepared a campaign swing late this coming week through the early voting state of Iowa, while a visit to New Hampshire was in the works.

On Sunday, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson was also set to enter the Democratic field; if elected, he would be the first Hispanic president.

For the short term at least, the outsized candidacies of Clinton and Obama were expected to soak up the lion's share of attention.

Obama, who launched his own presidential committee on Tuesday, praised Clinton as a friend and colleague.

"I welcome her and all the candidates, not as competitors, but as allies in the work of getting our country back on track," he said in a statement.

Campaigning in New Hampshire, Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd did not comment specifically on Clinton's announcement, but said: "I'm not one for exploratory committees. You're in or you're not."

Other Democratic contenders include former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack; Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, the party's 2004 vice-presidential nominee. Delaware Sen. Joe Biden has said he will run and planned to formalize his intentions soon. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the party's 2004 standard bearer, is also contemplating another run.

An influential player in her husband's political career in Arkansas, Hillary Clinton leapt to the national scene during the 1992 presidential campaign when husband and wife fought to survive the scandal over Gennifer Flowers' allegations of a lengthy affair with Bill Clinton when he was the state's governor.

The Clintons appeared together on CBS' "60 Minutes" to talk about their marriage — Hillary Clinton's first famous "Stand by Your Man" moment.

As first lady, Clinton headed up a disastrous first-term effort to overhaul the health care insurance system. There was more controversy as the couple battled allegations of impropriety over land deals and fundraising, missing records from her former Arkansas law firm and even her quick and hefty profits from an investment in cattle futures.

There was no letup in the second term. The president found himself denying — then admitting — having a sexual relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. As he battled impeachment and possible removal from office, his wife's poll numbers rose.

Her own political career began to take shape in late 1998 when New York Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynihan announced he would not seek re-election to the Senate seat he had held since 1976.

The campaign trail was not always friendly. For almost every cheer, there was a shouted "Go home, Hillary!" and the emerging Republican theme that carpetbagger Clinton simply wanted to use New York as a launching pad for a later presidential run. ___

bmyohn
January 20th, 2007, 17:55
Uhoh!!! We're in trouble now!!!

cjben
January 20th, 2007, 18:32
looks like the republicans will win again if they come up with somebody even halfway decent,cause no democrap I have ever talked to would admit out loud that they would vote for Hilary or Osama,I mean Obama.

8Mud
January 20th, 2007, 18:34
Funny when she was Mrs. President, I actually agreed with some of the stuff she was trying to get done. In a theoretical way, I never really did know the details.
But she always did remind me a little too much of my wife, for me to really like her much.
The thought of her and Polossi running things, actually makes me favor incompetance over agenda.
Our first legislation will be to mandate castration and encourage the cloning of females.

5-90
January 20th, 2007, 19:38
Oh snap - what the Hell?

Yeah, I saw this in the news yesterday, and my first thought was "God save the Republic!"

I honestly don't have anything against the idea of a woman President - but not Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi (or any of the other current crop of female Democrats - Feinstein, Boxer, or anyone else like that. Too Leftist for my liking, and I don't like their agendas.)

Clinton running has me about an ache away from announcing my own candidacy as a fully-independent candidate - but I can't, in good conscience, go into politics myself. Besides, I probably wouldn't garner any votes - most office-holders belong in the first layer of Dante's Hell, and just imagine what would happen if they had someone campaigning who said exactly what's on his mind... ("The thing to figure out about him is that there's nothing to figure out...")

Bent
January 20th, 2007, 20:45
She needs to take a motorcade through Dallas.

:patriot:

UNCC_99XJ
January 20th, 2007, 21:04
well this oughta be good.....:flame:

SBrad001
January 20th, 2007, 21:14
Who cares if she's running for president. It's really not like she's going to win. Then again Bush got elected. :D

Gil BullyKatz
January 20th, 2007, 21:18
She needs to take a motorcade through Dallas.

:patriot:


That's some funny shit right there...

nominations for Oswald Patsy?

Ghost
January 20th, 2007, 23:31
She needs to take a motorcade through Dallas.

:patriot:
:yelclap: :worship:

cjben
January 21st, 2007, 00:12
"I'm in,I'm in!!!" isn't that the phrase that go ole Bill in so much trouble?:)

Ramsey
January 21st, 2007, 00:54
I just hope edwards takes her in the primarys

flexjay87
January 21st, 2007, 06:51
in the spirit of john kerry, i'm gonna vote for "hillarry" right before i vote against her, he he........

Fish'nCarz
January 21st, 2007, 07:09
Robot Bartender

A man walked into a very high-tech bar. As he sat down on a
stool he noticed that the bartender was a robot. The robot clicked to
attention and asked, "Sir, what will you have?"

The man thought a moment then replied? "A martini please."
The robot clicked a couple of times and mixed the best martini
the man had ever had.

The robot then asked, "Sir, what is your IQ?"
The man answered "Oh, about 164."
The robot then proceeded to discuss the 'theory of relativity',
inter-stellar space travel', the latest medical breakthroughs, etc...
The man was most impressed. He left the bar but thought he
would try a different tact. He returned and took a seat. Again the robot
clicked and asked what he would have? "A martini please."

Again it was superb. The robot again asked "What is your IQ sir?"
This time the man answered , "Oh about 100". So the robot started
discussing NASCAR racing, the latest basketball scores, and
what to expect the Dodgers to do this week end.

The guy had to try it one more time. So he left, returned and
took a stool.... Again a martini, and the question, "What is your IQ?"

This time the man drawled out " Uh..... bout 50".

The robot clicked then leaned close and very slowly asked,

"A-r-e...

y-o-u-r...

p-e-o-p-l-e...

g-o-i-n-g...

t-o...

n-o-m-i-n-a-t-e...

H-i-l-l-a-r-y-?????

Bradlybob
January 21st, 2007, 07:24
actually makes me favor incompetance over agenda.

God thats scary but I'm sorry to say I agree. I think I'd rather have the bumbler that I voted for, wait, no I voted against the other guy, twice than Hillary. I think I'd rather have Borat from Alabama, you know the other dem., than her. Crap, I don't think I've voted "for" anybody since 1984. It's always been the lesser of two evils.

red91
January 21st, 2007, 07:27
Hillary is much more fit than Obama...


His middle name is "Huessin" or however you spell it...I'm pretty sure that isn't going to fly...

and either way..."BAD" things happen to people who get in the way of the Clintons ask Vince Foster.

Art Triggs
January 21st, 2007, 09:20
Well, neither are a good choice, I do hope the republican party, or someone else can step up and do better, The choices presented to us so far in the last few years have not been great.....

RichP
January 21st, 2007, 09:30
I'd rather have TED































Nugent that is :D :D

5-90
January 21st, 2007, 13:23
Hillary is much more fit than Obama...


His middle name is "Huessin" or however you spell it...I'm pretty sure that isn't going to fly...

and either way..."BAD" things happen to people who get in the way of the Clintons ask Vince Foster.

Oh - but Vince Foster committed suicide!

Yeah, right. My wife and I were, oddly enough, talking about that last night...

The calibre of the wound and the calibre of the firearm didn't match.
The firearm was found in his hand (doesn't happen with suicides...)
Blood ran uphill at the scene (WTF?)
There was no grass or dirt found on his shoes or his clothing, other than what was already in contact with the ground (he fell?) Fibres found on his shoes matched his office carpet...
And, his body was found in the sole jurisdiction of the DC Park Police - the least-equipped LE organisation to investigate a homicide - probably in the entire nation.

Yeah, he shot himself. And let me know when Elvis gets here...

goodburbon
January 21st, 2007, 13:32
The firearm was found in his hand (doesn't happen with suicides...)





Yeah, it does, just trust me on this one.






I'd vote for ya!

red91
January 21st, 2007, 14:52
Makes you wonder...there are just a few too many to be a coinciedence...

1. Mary Mohane - former White House intern gunned down in a coffee shop. Nothing was taken. It was suspected that she was about to testify about sexual harassment at the White House.

2. Vincent Foster - former White House Counsel, found dead of a gunshot wound to the head and ruled a suicide. He had significant knowledge of the Clintons' financial affairs and was a business partner with Hillary. If the Clintons are guilty of the crimes they are accused of by Larry, Vincent Foster would have detailed knowledge of those crimes


3. C. Victor Raiser, II - former National Finance Co-Chairman of Clinton for President, and Montgomery Raiser, his son. Both died in a suspicious private plane crash in Alaska. No cause determined. Raiser was considered to be a major player on the Clinton team.

4. Paul Tully - DNC Political Director, was found dead in a Little Rock hotel room. No cause was ever determined and no autopsy was allowed. Tully was a key member of the damage control squad and came up with some of the Clinton strategies.

5. Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser. Found in the woods in Virginia with a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide

6. Hershell Friday - Clinton fund-raiser. His plane exploded.

7. Jerry Parks - former security team member for Governor Clinton. Prior to his death he had compiled an extensive file on Clinton's activities. His family had reported being followed and his home broken into just before being gunned down at a deserted intersection.

8. John Wilson - former Washington D.C. council member. Had ties to Whitewater. Died of a very suspicious hanging suicide.

9. Kathy Ferguson - former wife of Arkansas State Trooper Danny Ferguson, the co-defendant with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Found dead in her living room of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Interestingly, her packed suitcases seemed to indicate she was about to go somewhere.

10. Bill Shelton - Arkansas state trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself at her grave.

11. Gandy Baugh - attorney for Dan Lasater in a financial misconduct case. Supposedly jumped out the window of a tall building to commit suicide.

12. Stanley Huggins - lawyer investigating Madison Guaranty. Suicide. His extensive report has never been released.

13. Florence Martin - Accountant for the CIA and had information on the Barry Seal case. Three gunshot wounds to the head.

14. Suzane Coleman - reportedly had an affair with Clinton. Was seven months pregnant at the time she was found dead of a gun shot wound to the back of the head, ruled suicide.

15. Paula Grober - Clinton's interpreter for the deaf. Traveled with Clinton from 1978 until her death in 1992 in a one-car accident. There were no witnesses.

16. Paul Wilcher - attorney investigating corruption. He had investigated federal elections, drug and gun smuggling through Mena, the Waco incident, and had just delivered a lengthy report to Janet Reno. He died in his home of unknown causes.

17. Jon Parnell Walker - RTC investigator who mysteriously fell to his death from an apartment balcony.

19. Ron Brown - former DNS Chairman, Commerce Secretary. Reported to have died in a plane crash, but new evidence reveals he may have been shot in the head. He was being investigated by a special investigator and was about to be indicted with 54 others. He spoke publicly of his willingness to "make a deal" with the prosecutors to save himself a few days before the fatal trip. He was not supposed to be on the flight but was asked to go at the last minute. (This count does not include the other business leaders and other passengers who died on this government-sponsored trade mission.)


20. Barbara Wise - Commerce Department secretary. Worked with Ron Brown and John Huang and had extensive knowledge of their activities. Found dead in her locked office the day after Thanksgiving. It was ruled a suicide. Interestingly, she was found partially clothed, bruised, and in a pool of blood.

21. Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce. John Huang was given a special security clearance by Meissner. Shortly thereafter, he died in the crash of a small plane.

22 & 23. Kevin Ives and Don Henry - seventeen-year-old boys who apparently saw something related to drugs in Mena by accident late at night. Officially ruled an accidental death on the train tracks, but evidence shows they died before being placed on the tracks - one of a crushed skull and the other of a knife wound in the back.
24. Keith Koney - had information on the Ives and Henry deaths. Died in a motorcycle accident with reports of a high-speed car chased involved

25. Keith McKaskle - had information on the Ives and Henry deaths. Stabbed to death

26. Gregory Collins - had information on the Ives and Henry deaths. Gunshot wound to the head.

27. Jeff Rhodes - had information on the Ives and Henry and McKaskle deaths. Tortured, mutilated, shot, body burned in a dumpster.

28. James Milam - had information on the Ives and Henry deaths. He was decapitated. The coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

29. Jordan Kettleson - had information on the Ives and Henry deaths. Found shot in the front seat of his pick up truck.

30. Dr. Stanley Heard - Chair, National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee. He personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather, and brother. His personal small plane developed problems so he rented another. Fire broke out in flight and he crashed.

33. Maj. Gen. William Robertson
34. Col. William Densberger
35. Col. Robert Kelly
36. Spec. Gary Rhodes
37. Steve Willis
38. Robert Williams
39. Conway LeBleu
40. Todd McKeehan
41. Sgt. Brian Haney
42. Sgt. Tim Sabel
43. Maj.William Barkley
44. Capt. Scott Reynolds
* all former Clinton bodyguards who are dead.

5-90
January 21st, 2007, 15:41
Makes you wonder...there are just a few too many to be a coinciedence...

"Coincidence"

By the by - that's a rather long list! I'm sure they're all public records (and therefore easy to check...) but I didn't know that the list was that long.

I wish I could profess surprised tho - but I somehow can't. Kinda reminds me of a pogrom, or the Stalinist purges... And people want to vote for the other half of the "Bonnie and Clyde" pair we already suffered through for eight full years? I can only hope that Hillary gets elected to office in 2020 (every President, as I recall, elected in a "decade year" has been shot. Not all fatally, but shot nonetheless...)

Gil BullyKatz
January 21st, 2007, 17:46
Seems to me that if the Democratic party reeeeeeeeeeeally wants to lose the next presidential election...

She'll be their candidate.

Which reminds me...

If the republican party wants to win...

They're better cut ties with the present admin.

my $.02