front dana 60.........it is time.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

Well I think I have enough capitol and enough balls to want to go with a 78/79 front d60 axle. Problem is I can't find one in california!

I need help.

If you see something, craigslist, autotrader, ebay, pirate, ju etc.......

Post me up a link on here so I can jump on it.


Right now $1k shipped is what I'm after. I'd really like to find one local though......

So far I've been quoted at $2200, $1700, $1500, $1175 and I'm almost there. I want to break the thousand dollar mark so I can have enough left over for rims/tires and lockers/gears..........


So any help would be great, russ pottenger is already hooking up his connections in the auto industry and avery (cracker) spends hours on craigslist instead of working so he sees stuff and calls me......


Anyways.......


If you find something pm or post here.

[cal]

Wow, and I passed one up two days ago.

[cracker]

I told him about that one too.

[cal]

Yeah, Dan called about it but it had sold by then.

[cracker]

That thing was a steal too. I was suprised I found it.

[sintax]

I saw one for sale on pirate. its in San Diego and the guy wants $1500 for it

btw, why are you looking for a 78/79? (i'm assuming ford)

[Russ Pottenger]

I saw one for sale on pirate. its in San Diego and the guy wants $1500 for it

btw, why are you looking for a 78/79? (i'm assuming ford)
Hey Ben, I think that was the guy you struck up that lively debate on the pirate thread. After the two of you got done mother #ucking each other, I think his counter offer was around $1700.00 :rolleyes:

[MJ_Chubs]

Try contacting Doug at www.extremeaxlesales.com (he's Highhonda, or something like that on Pirate). I've read nothing but good things about his prices, quality, and customer service.

[HilltopXJ]

I know its a long ways, but there's a small offroad shop up here in southern oregon that had about 30 D60s (chevy, dodge, ford) the last time I was over there. Dont know what he's selling complete ones for, but it might be worth a call. North Valley Offroad, 541-665-9980 Josh is his name.

[Wil Badger]

btw, why are you looking for a 78/79? (i'm assuming ford)


because its the only one that is high pinion as well as driver side drop.

you better include plating the frame into your budget as well to help distribute the weight of that thing.

[cracker]

because its the only one that is high pinion as well as driver side drop.

you better include plating the frame into your budget as well to help distribute the weight of that thing.

Actually 85-91.5 Ford high pinions exist but they have VERY little room to do anything on the drivers side since the diff is offset so much tot he drivers side. The 1977.5-1979 F-350 Dana 60s are the best workable option.

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Dana60.htm



http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/Dana60/Dana60RS79rust.JPG

Picture 49 Dana RS60 solid front axle from a 1979 Ford F350 4x4. Notice the length of the 'short' tube, it is only this long for 1977.5-1979 axles. The Dana 60 from 1985-92 'short' tube is much shorter.



http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/Dana60/Dana60axle86.jpg
Picture 5x is of a 1987 Dana 60 being ran under a Jeep. This axle runs from 1985-1991.5 and has the stronger king pins. Notice the very short drivers side tube, this is a limiting factor and a reason this axle is not as sought after as the 77.5-79 style. Picture provided by Dust Puppy from POR.

[Wil Badger]

i have a 79 60 so i have no worries although i no longer own an Xj,heheh

[Paul S]

Actually 85-91.5 Ford high pinions exist but they have VERY little room to do anything on the drivers side since the diff is offset so much tot he drivers side. The 1977.5-1979 F-350 Dana 60s are the best workable option.

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Dana60.htm



http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/Dana60/Dana60RS79rust.JPG

Picture 49 Dana RS60 solid front axle from a 1979 Ford F350 4x4. Notice the length of the 'short' tube, it is only this long for 1977.5-1979 axles. The Dana 60 from 1985-92 'short' tube is much shorter.



http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/Dana60/Dana60axle86.jpg
Picture 5x is of a 1987 Dana 60 being ran under a Jeep. This axle runs from 1985-1991.5 and has the stronger king pins. Notice the very short drivers side tube, this is a limiting factor and a reason this axle is not as sought after as the 77.5-79 style. Picture provided by Dust Puppy from POR.

Those are both KP crap, there's a reason they're found so cheap & easily in the JUNKyards:spin1:

P

[cracker]

i have a 79 60 so i have no worries although i no longer own an Xj,heheh

When are you going to join NAXJA since you still leech bandwidth?

[cracker]

Those are both KP crap, there's a reason they're found so cheap & easily in the JUNKyards:spin1:

P

Cheap?

Cheaper than trailer axles?

[Paul S]

Cheap?

Cheaper than trailer axles?

That trailer axle is another good example of why spindles suck & anyone thinking of buildng a 60 should seriously consider saving a few extra pennys to do it right & go unit bearings:looser:

P

[cracker]

That trailer axle is another good example of why spindles suck & anyone thinking of buildng a 60 should seriously consider saving a few extra pennys to do it right & go unit bearings:looser:

P

So you've been looking for a unit bearing trailer axle?

[cal]

If i weren't converting my jeep to hubs, i'd be converting my trailer to use unit bearings. ;)

uniformity <3

[Paul S]

So you've been looking for a unit bearing trailer axle?

I'm going to trade Cal my old hubs & spindles for his D30 unit bearings, your job will be to figure out how to make them work on my shinny new trailer axle.

P

[cracker]

I'm going to trade Cal my old hubs & spindles for his D30 unit bearings, your job will be to figure out how to make them work on my shinny new trailer axle.

P

Troy can weld them on.

[cracker]

If i weren't converting my jeep to hubs, i'd be converting my trailer to use unit bearings. ;)

uniformity <3

So your going full float 44 in the rear?

[markw]

If i weren't converting my jeep to hubs, i'd be converting my trailer to use unit bearings. ;)

uniformity <3


Those the axles on your house? :)

[vintagespeed]

Well I think I have enough capitol and enough balls to want to go with a 78/79 front d60 axle....

Do you have any idea how much it's going to cost to rebuild a front 60? You're going to be very very very lucky to find a working h/p D60 that isn't rusted to shit for less than $1k. And once you do you will spend $150 per rebuilt caliper (plus core), about $100 in bearings & seals, kingpin rebuild kits (or balljoints if you get the neutered-60), then you're just going to need some gears ($300+), a locker ($300+), some hubs ($150+) and most likely some hi-steer arms ($200). The list goes on & on & on & on.

At least you post nicely here on Naxja. :rolleyes:

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

Do you have any idea how much it's going to cost to rebuild a front 60? You're going to be very very very lucky to find a working h/p D60 that isn't rusted to shit for less than $1k. And once you do you will spend $150 per rebuilt caliper (plus core), about $100 in bearings & seals, kingpin rebuild kits (or balljoints if you get the neutered-60), then you're just going to need some gears ($300+), a locker ($300+), some hubs ($150+) and most likely some hi-steer arms ($200). The list goes on & on & on & on.

At least you post nicely here on Naxja. :rolleyes:
Well when in rome.....

Ive got a pretty good idea of cost so far, I'm prepred. I don't expect to bolt these on and slap on 54 inch boggers (just came out) and hit the trail.....no I've got a plan and I know what I need and I know the costs involved.

I hope no body tells me to go front 44 again.....its like telling troy to run thornbirds :D

Stock d44 outer strength.....3,500 lbs

Stock 35 spline d60 outer 8,100 lbs......


No brainer...except ill have 4340 35 spline outers cause they are cheap on ebay! That's 10,500 lbs breaking strength!

[cal]

I'm going to trade Cal my old hubs & spindles for his D30 unit bearings, your job will be to figure out how to make them work on my shinny new trailer axle.

P


I'm running the 30 spline unit bearings, they should be good and beefy. I have a spare unit bearing and 3 spare stub axles too.. you should be setup. You can start doing trailer digs. :)

[Wil Badger]

When are you going to join NAXJA since you still leech bandwidth?


what are you talking about.why would i join a club that is based on a vehicle i no longer own.i stop in here every once in a blue moon and rarely even post anymore.so i don't think i'm sucking bandwidth

[vintagespeed]

Well when in rome.....

Good, stay here and make the world a better place.

I hope no body tells me to go front 44 again.....its like telling troy to run thornbirds :D

I know, you're much too hardKore for that. You asked for what will work with 37 or 38s and people (like me) shared their experiences.

I think you should run a 60/9 or a 44/60 and be different, to the max.

[cracker]

why would i join a club that is based on a vehicle i no longer own.

Why would you browse a forum based on a vehicle you no longer own?

[Wil Badger]

because i feel i can still be of some help and i still know people in the local area that browse here then at the local forums.also just because i don't own one right now who's to say i won't again in the future .i still want to do a 2 door comanche chop with tube frame just wasn't in the cards for now.it will be cheaper and easier for me to make a trail rig out of a Tj tub .

now can we get back to this person discussion on finding him a front 78-79 ford dana 60.

[cracker]

because i feel i can still be of some help and i still know people in the local area that browse here then at the local forums.also just because i don't own one right now who's to say i won't again in the future .i still want to do a 2 door comanche chop with tube frame just wasn't in the cards for now.it will be cheaper and easier for me to make a trail rig out of a Tj tub .

now can we get back to this person discussion on finding him a front 78-79 ford dana 60.

You have been very helpful.

Thank you

[JohnX]

Please forgive my ignorance (I admit to knowing nothing about D60's)...but why isn't the HP D60 from a Dodge Ram any good?

And no...I'm not offering you mine.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

Please forgive my ignorance (I admit to knowing nothing about D60's)...but why isn't the HP D60 from a Dodge Ram any good?

And no...I'm not offering you mine.

Well they are balljointed, small axle tubed, center axle disconnect like disco d30s, no aftermarket support.

[cracker]

Well they are balljointed, small axle tubed, center axle disconnect like disco d30s, no aftermarket support.

And 33 spline unit bearings lastara

[JohnX]

Well they are balljointed, small axle tubed, center axle disconnect like disco d30s, no aftermarket support.
Ball Joints....doesn't seem too bad? Small tubes...probably a lot bigger than most others anyway right? A small amount of reinforcing/truss would fix that. Besides, that saves weight, right? Disco....That just means you can weld the front shut and use the disco to lock or unlock it? Aftermarket....All you need is gears....since you can weld the front spiders :D


And 33 spline unit bearings lastara
Unit bearings are good. 33 splined...sounds alright to me.


Once again, I am asking, so why are my ideas flawed? What would be the tires size and other limiting factors? 37's 39's?? And what would most likely break if I was running 37's with the mentioned improvements?

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

wow i hate this crap.......


dana 60s are hard to find for a normal price.

i can get them for 950.....plus shipping......damn freight shipping.

[sintax]

why not just see about splitting the shipping with the buyer. Its a very common practice when buying something.

Also there are message boards for people who haul across country, often times the'll have a route planned out and can get it close by for a few extra bucks. They are making the trip anyway.

Or just quit being such a cheap bastard and buy the axle, freight is only a few hundred bucks anyway.

[cracker]

I get great freight rates. Ben, call me.

[CanMan]

Been following this a bit, maybe this seller would sell and ship just the front?

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?p=243334572#post243334572

Wonder if you could get the front for the price asked, and he can ditch the rear? Still would be a good deal, IMO. Maybe he will go lower?

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

Been following this a bit, maybe this seller would sell and ship just the front?

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?p=243334572#post243334572

Wonder if you could get the front for the price asked, and he can ditch the rear? Still would be a good deal, IMO. Maybe he will go lower?

Thank you so much that's exactly what I'm looking for! I'm tired of getting screwed on ebay and pirate!

Hopefully I can work something out with this guy.

[CanMan]

Thank you so much that's exactly what I'm looking for! I'm tired of getting screwed on ebay and pirate!

Hopefully I can work something out with this guy.

Cool! I would of got it myself, but think Im going to go the 609 route.

Get it and start building!

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

Cool! I would of got it myself, but think Im going to go the 609 route.

Get it and start building!


he doesnt want to ship!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[cracker]

he doesnt want to ship!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Get him to drop it off at the terminal and the terminal will ship it third party (that is me).

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

Get him to drop it off at the terminal and the terminal will ship it third party (that is me).
he says thier is some local interest and he doesnt have a truck and the nearest terminal is an hour away.........what starts with f and ends with k? firetruck

[cal]

frieghtquote.com will go TO HIM and pick the axle up, whether or not its palleted (although, cheaper palleted).

I bought two 3/4 ton HP44's a couple years ago, and called freightquote.com. They sent UFS Dugan (spelling?) out to pickup the axles. They were sitting next to a truck in a pasture on a farm. The shipping agency drug them onto a liftgate, tied them to a pallet, and shipped them. Cost me like a $100 service charge. Total cost to ship both axles from michigan was like $400.

[Jump This]

he doesnt want to ship!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Don't let that stop you. Send him some money NOW as a deposit.
Follow Cal's recomendation and get your ass on the phone. He won't need to do a damn thing. I have done this countless times, at $900 its well worth the extra money to get it out here.
Come on...sometimes life takes effort!!
:D
Rick

He may want to sell local, don't tell him where you are from , but that you will need to have them picked up by a trucking company.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

frieghtquote.com will go TO HIM and pick the axle up, whether or not its palleted (although, cheaper palleted).

I bought two 3/4 ton HP44's a couple years ago, and called freightquote.com. They sent UFS Dugan (spelling?) out to pickup the axles. They were sitting next to a truck in a pasture on a farm. The shipping agency drug them onto a liftgate, tied them to a pallet, and shipped them. Cost me like a $100 service charge. Total cost to ship both axles from michigan was like $400.

that just may work! thanks for the tip cal! i only wanna ship 1 axle and ill have the guy yank a pallet from the back of a grocery store or something. if i can get this to somewhere in cali for under a grand ill be a happy camper.

[cal]

Exactly, and use as a big selling point, all he has to do is BE THERE. *YOU* contact the shipper, YOU pay for it, he has zero involvement other than answering his phone and greeting the driver when he shows up.

[cal]

Also, if you have it shipped to somewhere with a dock and a forklift, theres a discount.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

i put a google search for salvage yards and used parts finder networks etc, and send out like 10 requests, within 5 minutes i had 3 voicemails and 15 emails.......whoa.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

ive called 15 different parts yards that specialize in truck parts......ive got nothing so far.....

some ass from florida quoted me $3300.......mmmmm let me think about that uh no.

[JohnX]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dana-60-Front-Axle_W0QQitemZ140066037745QQihZ004QQcategoryZ33728 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Might be able to get it including shipping in your range?

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

update dana 60 for under a grand mabey a lil more to be picked up by intrepidxj from chicago area if all goes well.

[cracker]

Fawkin Randy Rocks!

[CanMan]

Sweet. The other guy flaked out on shipping it?

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

Sweet. The other guy flaked out on shipping it?

he originally didnt have he means to ship ie a truck to take it to a terminal, or a buddy to help him load it.

InrepidXj took care of that though!

[IntrepidXJ]

ok...i have aquired an HP D60 and it is sitting on my trailer right now. highest bidder gets it ;)

[cracker]

ok...i have aquired an HP D60 and it is sitting on my trailer right now. highest bidder gets it ;)

:laugh2:

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

:laugh2:


Ill give you 2000....

That's how much I just sold averys 60/9 on pbb for.



Troy shoulda put a padlock on his garage before he left oh well.


Anyone want some bilstein 9100s or a set of useds 37" mtrs?

[cracker]

So you destroy my tailgate and then steal my sh!t and sell it??? :rattle:

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

So you destroy my tailgate and then steal my sh!t and sell it??? :rattle:




Didn't you see my new sig?


How many times do I have to say sorry!



I guess built ford tough wasn't enough for my chevy 14 bolt :D

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

ok...i have aquired an HP D60 and it is sitting on my trailer right now. highest bidder gets it ;)



Any pics? :D

[cracker]

I guess built ford tough wasn't enough for my chevy 14 bolt :D

I thought it was a two bolt :laugh:

No worries. I fixed the handle after a while. I am going to use a dent puller and pull out the rest and weld in a plate to fix it.

It's fun to give you crap about it though :D

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

I thought it was a two bolt :laugh:

No worries. I fixed the handle after a while. I am going to use a dent puller and pull out the rest and weld in a plate to fix it.

It's fun to give you crap about it though :D



Who is gonna see that conpletely nonstructuaral "dent" that may or may not have been there previous to december 30th 2006.

Did you inspect the vechile for dents behing the plastic tailgate liner when you bought it? I thought not.

This would never hold up in court and this is all hearsay.