pics of interior bed liner

[atreyuBLUEXJ]

i didnt want to use the words "Rhino Liner" or "Herculiner" or that stuff auto zone sells, cant remeber the name. but i just ripped my carpet up, (not too much rust actually) and i want to truck bedline it. im not too picky on brands in picutures, i just want to see what it looks like in the interior. right now i have no carpet and no console in the jeep, just my shifter,front seat, and an ebrake and i dont wanna put everythgin back in til i fix the rust and line it. any pictures? write ups on the lining?

thanks
-jon

[MuddinJeeper]

I've got some pics on my digi that I can download later on today for ya. I just finished that project. removed carpet, ground down all rusty spots, bondo'd 3 nickel-toonie size holes, scuffed up the surface, wiped it down, primed/painted with rust killer then bedlined...what a fun job...but the payoff is worth it.

[beakie]

I would like to see some action photo's of this project.
Just realized your from Maple Ridge, a good buddy is from there, and I was supposed to attend a wedding in Whonnock this summer but am now commited to a work matter.
Anyway, hope to see some pics.

[IntrepidXJ]

http://pictures.myxj.net/progress8-9-04/2/DSC00054.JPG

http://pictures.myxj.net/progress8-12-04/DSC00056.JPG

[MuddinJeeper]

my 'after' pics pretty much look like that too...it looks like you were a bit more thorough though. Still working on pics...
Ian

Beakie: small world eh? Maple ridge is a great community...starting to get higher crime levels though. Too bad about the wedding, I guess duty calls.

[mack]

how long before the smell of the bedliner was gone?

[Menzenski]

how long before the smell of the bedliner was gone?
Mine never really smelled that bad, maybe because I took the doors off soon afterwards.

[IntrepidXJ]

how long before the smell of the bedliner was gone?

a few days....with the doors off

[MuddinJeeper]

until it dried...

[DBenz]

A quick question, what did everyone do about that thick foam mat underneath the driver and passenger's feet?

[IntrepidXJ]

A quick question, what did everyone do about that thick foam mat underneath the driver and passenger's feet?

what foam mat?

http://pictures.myxj.net/progress7-30-04/DSC00031.JPG

[Menzenski]

what foam mat?
The one in 97+ XJs.

The only thing under the vinyl flooring in my 90 was a pad in the passenger side footwell. It looked like a white cloth in a clear plastic bag. I just threw it away.

[DBenz]

A buddy of mine with a 93 sport has the pad as well, it goes against the firewall and I'm guessing shields your feet from the heat.

[LS1Jeeper]

Mine has no nothing but floor and Rino ... it gets very hot on the floor

[MuddinJeeper]

I just bedlined about 6" up behind the mat. It was a bit tricky because I didn't pull it out, but I managed to get the gas pedal to hold it up until the bedliner dried.

[IntrepidXJ]

A buddy of mine with a 93 sport has the pad as well, it goes against the firewall and I'm guessing shields your feet from the heat.

oh...that thing.

i just cut it up as high as i could reach

[ponyracer1]

What about laying down dynomat insulation in the front then rolling bedliner over it?? The dynomat is tuff stuff that would block alot of heat and is super sticky. Then the bedliner should protect that.

I'll be doing the liner this summer, I may have to try it.

[dj's 2000 xj]

I would use the liner, then dynamat. That way it is sealed, then heat -sound- proofed. I have not done this though, but that is how I would do it. I know from experience that dynamat really cuts the noise, and heat, my buddy has it in a 95 dodge with a cummins. loud engine compartments. .02 well, maybe its more like .05 worth :)

[ponyracer1]

ya but if you put the dynomat over the liner then you would see the foil backing and it would get all torn up. If you put it down first then it would block the heat and noise from entering the cabin and be protected/hidden by the liner.

I just don't know how well the liner would stick to the mat.

[dj's 2000 xj]

ya but if you put the dynomat over the liner then you would see the foil backing and it would get all torn up. If you put it down first then it would block the heat and noise from entering the cabin and be protected/hidden by the liner.

I just don't know how well the liner would stick to the mat.

For some reason I was thinking that you might put the carpet back down, I see your point.

How to get the liner to seal over the edges of the dynamat would be a problem...unless you had...(fill in with good idea)

[MuddinJeeper]

duct tape:dunno::laugh:

[beakie]

don't know much about this topic, but what if you put a layer of liner down, and while it is still sticky lay the dynomat down over it, and another layer of liner to finish the job?

I will be doing the bed liner later this summer, after repairing some holes in the floor.

[MuddinJeeper]

I would think that the dynomat would act as an expansion joint and cause the bedliner to crack on the top when the dyno mat expands and contracts, and consequently peel.

[JCSXJ]

I had a 94 Toyota with the bed liner trick and I just used thick rubber floor mats on top of the bed liner to keep my feet cooler. I plan on doing the same thing to the XJ.

[jeannies_driver]

here's an idea,

what about spraying an adhesive to the floor, then lining it with aluminum foil, shiny side down. once that dries then herculiner the crap outta it. the alum. foil should reflect the heat back down making it cooler. i know the floor in my YJ got to hot to touch when i herc. it and pulled the carpet's.

[Menzenski]

Hot floors are a good thing. I cook lunch on my transmission tunnel all the time when wheeling. Seriously.

[NSW Sparky]

how about putting the heat mat on the underside of the jeep. my feet get hotter than hell with the carpet in while wheeling.

[ponyracer1]

Don't know how long it would last ouside the jeep in the elements.

[PosiDave]

If you can weld rivet I would say get so cheap thin sheet metal and run it like this

Sheetmetal
Dynomat
Stock Stuff
Floor.

since it is front only it shouldnt be to bad.

[XJCreeper]

Hot floors are a good thing. I cook lunch on my transmission tunnel all the time when wheeling. Seriously.

No doubt! Especially when black is such a great cooking cover. Roasted leg is always on the menu. My XJ has a large rear oven for parties.
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/davidjudkins/XJ/rearoven.jpg

The carpet and pad is a great heat shield and I don't know if there is really a better alternative without much hassle. The thick rubber mat is not near as good for me and I'm tired of cooking my foot too.

So now that I got the floor all sealed up and the rust issue is under contol I'm thinking about putting the rug back in. I'm going to cut the rug to make it easier to take out. I'll cut the front apart from the rear right under the front seat. That way if things get wet it's easy to dry out.

[BigG]

How about Secondskin Firewall a-la this thread:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93588

Never got a difinitive answer on whether everything would stick/work.

[NCCherokee]

Do you think it would work if you ripped it all out and herc'd it, then put some sort of heat/sound deadener, then tried to herc it again, after sealing the edges of the deadener with silcone or something similar that is suited to that job. Then maybe you could cut your carpet into pieces so they are easy to remove. That way you could be insulated from heat and sound, and you wouldnt see the tacky foil backing all the time. You could take it a step further and get some of that velcro that you just stick on, and put it on a couple of spots on the carpet and floor so that the carpet doesnt move around.

Its my understanding that it isnt the carpet itself that keeps the heat/sound out so much as it is the insulation underneath it, at least on newer xjs. i could be wrong, its happened before.

i dont really know, there might be a lot of dumb stuff in this post, but just trying to throw ideas out there. I would do the bedliner inside in a heartbeat if i wasnt worried about sound and heat. I cant stand heat.

[FitchVA]

Do you think it would work if you ripped it all out and herc'd it, then put some sort of heat/sound deadener, then tried to herc it again, after sealing the edges of the deadener with silcone or something similar that is suited to that job. Then maybe you could cut your carpet into pieces so they are easy to remove. That way you could be insulated from heat and sound, and you wouldnt see the tacky foil backing all the time. You could take it a step further and get some of that velcro that you just stick on, and put it on a couple of spots on the carpet and floor so that the carpet doesnt move around.
i saw in issue of JP mag where they did something like that to a tub of a wrangler. they layed a coat or two of herc down. then covered that with some heat/sound deadener matting. and followed up with more herc. they didn't say anything about having to seal up the matting though. and they left it at that and didn't reinstall the carpeting. they even measured the sound and heat before and after the mod and it made a pretty big difference IIRC

[Menzenski]

i saw in issue of JP mag where they did something like that to a tub of a wrangler. they layed a coat or two of herc down. then covered that with some heat/sound deadener matting. and followed up with more herc. they didn't say anything about having to seal up the matting though. and they left it at that and didn't reinstall the carpeting. they even measured the sound and heat before and after the mod and it made a pretty big difference IIRC
It wasn't a Wrangler; it was an M715. It was last month's issue, I think.

[FitchVA]

yeah, i just checked and you're right on both accounts

[1985xjlaredo]

Are there any wires that run across the floor or in the door sills that need to be pulled up also? And how much door panneling needs to be pulled?

[nhrocker]

Are there any wires that run across the floor or in the door sills that need to be pulled up also? And how much door panneling needs to be pulled?
Depends on how thorough you want to do it and how picky you are about going over wires.

Yes there are wires down the top/side of the tranny tunnel and under the trim down the sides of the floor that should be pulled up in my opinion. And pretty much any trim that runs over/near the floor pan or door sills should be pulled (as well as the seats and center console). There's no need to pull any door panels unless you're coating the doors as well, but if you're doing this for sound deadening then you could pull them and hit the door frames and inside the door shells while you're at it.

[1985xjlaredo]

Cool thx for the info guy I just pulled my carpet up and eww what a disgusting mess I have. Lots of surface rust too. Owell lots of work to be done. Have a good one everybody :)

[88XJScott]

To reflect the heat, use DEI Floor and tunnel shields, thats what JP said worked the best at reflecting heat. You put it on the outside of your jeep, I plan on putting some above the cat because thats where my floor board gets the hottest.

The stuff is kinda pricey at $30 for a 2'x2' piece, but my floor got so hot that my A/C couldnt over power it and I sweated up a storm for the 2nd half of my 3 hour trip.

Just ordered some tonight, I'll let you know how it goes. Dynomat is very thin so I would imagine that the herculiner would just transition from the dynomat to the floor without a need for any transition...

[1985xjlaredo]

Where do you find dei floor shield? I have all the grinding and the sandin gdone now. I'm going to spray everything with simple green and wash it out then do a good rub down with acetone. Bought a MAC mig 125 welder on ebay for 100$$ Not to bad a deal I think.

[NCCherokee]

i saw in issue of JP mag where they did something like that to a tub of a wrangler. they layed a coat or two of herc down. then covered that with some heat/sound deadener matting. and followed up with more herc. they didn't say anything about having to seal up the matting though. and they left it at that and didn't reinstall the carpeting. they even measured the sound and heat before and after the mod and it made a pretty big difference IIRC


following with my idea earlier...a coat or two of herc, then maybe some of this heat/sound deadener: http://www.stockinteriors.com/heatsound.asp?Itemid=4783&gclid=CNCYyJmRpIcCFQKWHgodA2np-w

then maybe use some black silicone to seal around the deadener and to provide a smooth transition, then a couple more coats of herc.

maybe this marine grade sound proofing?
http://www.marinefoam.com/marine-grade-ultra-barrier-plus.html

[88XJScott]

For the Floor and Tunnel sheild, Search on Google, then price shop, thats how I got mine...

[nipcat202]

I need to remove the short box. Where are the 8 bolts located??

[Menzenski]

I need to remove the short box. Where are the 8 bolts located??
Short box? Are you trying to take the bed off a Comanche?

If so, http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=92394. If not, what are you asking?